i can be free to do the things that i love to do. i hope when i retire someday, they say, that guy made this place a special place to come to school and gave as much as he could to help the community. >> sandra: fox news alert to denver, colorado, watching live images outside of east high school in denver. police chief giving an update on a situation a moment ago detailing two school administrators were shot at that high school this morning around 10:00 a.m. local time after a handgun was found during a search of a student there. the latest update is the juvenile suspect remains at large and the gun was not immediately recovered following

that shooting, according to the police chief. we are still not sure even if it happened in a classroom or away from the classrooms. they seem to indicate that this was not in a classroom, but somewhere around the school facility there. what you are looking at on your screen is a meeting point for parents to come and pick up their children. terrified parents one would likely to assume who got a phone call that a school shooting happened, the two teachers, we have updates on them. one is in surgery, the other is listed in stable condition. we are still waiting further updates on them, john. >> john: and this happened as part of a routine pat-down program that has been implemented there among select students. there was a shooting there not long ago, he was shot and killed in his car, there you see, looks like a parent reuniting with a parent just in the tree as the helicopter shot swoops around. obviously you can imagine the parents are awfully happy to be

reunited with their children as they are being let out of school. our understanding is there were no students who were injured in this, just the school administrators, one in surgery, as sandra pointed out, the other in stable condition. but again, part of a routine program of pat-downs of certain students in the school who are thought to be threats following that shooting and killing of a student in a car not too long ago, and the big issue here is that apparently parents didn't know about this program. they didn't know that there were students there that were deemed to be at high risk and were being checked for weapons on a daily basis. >> sandra: a daily search conducted of some students we are now being told, part of a "safety plan" detailed by the police chief at the news conference a moment ago. and we are learning, john, that some parents were not even aware that this was happening, and that some students that school were listed as a risk and it became a necessity to then check

them for this. and in this case, a handgun was discovered during a routine search of that student. also want to add while this manhunt is underway at this hour, police do say they know the identity of the suspect. they have not revealed that to the public, not yet at least, and they say they are confident they will be able to apprehend him, but we have not gotten any update to that degree yet. this is a direct quote as well from the denver mayor, he obviously is armed and dangerous and willing to use the weapon as we have learned this morning, said mayor hancock out of denver, john. >> john: laura ingle has been following the latest developments and talking to some parents in the area. what have you got for us? >> hey, john. something else to note here, the two adults that were shot this morning there in denver received medical aid right away, thank goodness, because there were paramedics on scene for another reason. the parent that i spoke to a short time ago told me that there was a child there that was

having maybe some kind of allergic reaction, something relatively minor, but the paramedics were at the school. so they were attending to a student and shots rang out and that's why they were able to administer aid to these two adults who were shot by this suspect, so that is a new detail that we are learning. we'll hear more hopefully from the police as hopefully we get another briefing this afternoon. but that same parent is the one who told me we had no idea that there were kids on this campus that were being searched for weapons if they had behavioral problems. you know, if you are a parent and you have a kid in school, you get messages from the school all the time. you are being sent emails with updates, that is an update that was never shared with these parents. so there are a lot of questions, i will say the parent i spoke to was not happy, and related that a lot of parents there on the scene are very angry right now learning about this behavioral safety plan that they knew nothing about.

now, hopefully there will be an explanation as we get more details from school officials and we have an armed -- two remember aed officers will be on campus for the remainder of the year, and that is what we have been told so far, back to you. >> sandra: if you could just stand by with us on the breaking news, a local reporter talking to a police officer, update here. >> in order to provide for their safety, not just having an armed presence in the schools to provide that perception of safety but i think we need to address the access to guns, you know, because this individual today got that weapon from somewhere. and so i think that that is a significant issue and concern that needs to be addressed as well. make sure people who shouldn't have guns are not allowed to obtain them. >> do you believe it was a mistake to remove school resource officers from schools? >> i don't want to go so far to

characterize it as a mistake. it's not something i agreed with. i think the primary reason for having officers in schools separate and distinct from the safety component is the opportunity to build bridges and establish relationships, healthy relationships between young people and law enforcement and so i'm hopeful to have that opportunity again to build and sustain those relationships and certainly particularly at this school where community is hurting and has suffered a number of tragedies i think that we need to address their need to feel safe. >> and you mentioned they were checking them to make sure they didn't have any weapons. today was just the day. what goes into ensuring that students get checked every day? >> so i think it's important to point out that this particular student had a safety plan

specific to him because of previous challenges, i think the school board felt as though it was appropriate to check this student to make sure they did not have any articles on them that didn't belong in the school, and that had been done, you know, on a regular routine basis prior to this day, and nothing had been -- had been recovered from this particular person. so that safety plan had been working. today for whatever reason the person did have a weapon that he drew and fired a number of shots. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> you heard it straight from the police chief here. >> sandra: ok. so that was the police chief there, ron thomas, talking to a local reporter on the ground and really john detailing that safety plan that the school has had in place where they do regular checks of some students. he very specifically acknowledged the suspect at large still as having a safety

condition or reasoning for specific to him. and he's acknowledging with such certainty as i've said earlier, they are not releasing to the public the suspect's name, but they say they definitely know who that person is. l>> john: yeah, you know, and on occasion the stories touch us personally and that has happened in this particular case. our intrepid reporter alicia acuna has three students -- three children, rather, who are enrolled in that school, and two who have already graduated from that school. she is among the parents who were worried about what's going on there, and the situation with these safety checks. alicia joins us now, not as a reporter but as a concerned parent and alicia, what can you tell us about what you know about what went on and what the build-up to this was? >> you know, john, i have so

many questions as do so many other parents here. i can tell you i was sitting at my desk working on a different story and i started getting texts from my son saying he was in an assembly and that all of a sudden there were police officers everywhere and there were ambulances and that the assembly was shut down and there were cops guarding their door. and then i kept in contact with him over text, he said he had to stay silent. i have a niece here as well hiding in a closet texting with her mom, my sister was texting with me. i was one of the parents coming down here, rushing to see what we could do and could not get too close. but you were talking about this school safety plan that this suspect was under according to the police and the district. i talked to the superintendent during the news conference to find out what that meant and why as a parent i will no idea, and a lot of other parents here had no idea that their kids were walking into the same school with other kids that were under a plan that were being patted

down because there was enough concern to do so on a daily basis. and i asked why parents weren't being told this, that was to protect the privacy of the people patted down. as a parent, my question is, what about the safety and the concerns that we have for all of our students going in. so, there's a tremendous amount of frustration right now with regard to this student safety plan that we didn't know about. i think that's something you should find out about, orientation, and a lot of questions over exactly, you know, why the student was even still coming to school here. >> s >> sandra: our heart goes out to you who lives with this, and the students who live with this fear and the administrators on the ground seeing two of the teachers shot. right now, the update is one is still listed in critical condition and in surgery, the other is condition listed as serious by stable. alicia, just digging through

some of the local reporting there out of denver 7, the mayor is also providing further details on the male student that executed this this morning at east high school. he was under the school safety agreement. he had to be patted down and searched in the front office before school each day. he said this has happened, the police chief said it happened every day for a while without a problem. but then, of course, today the student pulled the firearm and shot and injured the two deans. a bit different than we had heard earlier where he was being patted down and they discovered the firearm. this would indicate he pulled it, the suspect is described as a black teen, last seen wearing a sweatshirt with an astronaut image on the front, and also alicia, the superintendent is saying all denver public schools have the safety protocol in place, not just this high school. >> yeah, and you think more parents would be aware of this.

but standing at the reunification center before i came to the camera they did not know and wondering why they didn't know. another question here and presented to the police chief, why is it the -- these were two deans who were shot. why wasn't it a school resource officer who was patting down these kids and the answer is because they got rid of school resource officers in denver public schools more than a year ago. so, that's another question that's coming forward to the city. additionally, sandra, i can tell you the past month and a half, a student here, a soccer player on the team here at east high school who was sitting in his car, he was shot as well, was not doing anything. there were members of his soccer team who went to the denver city council and asked them to please put school resource officers back in their schools and there was a member of the denver public school board, tay anderson, who told the local channel 7 that he was not even

going to engage in the conversation. >> alicia, let me ask you about that. two questions here first of all. you would logically think that if you are doing pat-downs every day for weapons, that you wouldn't leave that job to a school administrator, you would leave it to a trained law enforcement officer. god forbid you find a firearm. what would happen if you opened up the school backpack, and oh, a firearm, take it out, and handle it while the student goes oh, i'm sorry i brought that to school or in a particular case like this, you find that there's a firearm or you are about to find a firearm, the student says you are not taking that from me, pulls the gun and shoots, you would think you would want a trained law enforcement officer doing that. secondly, this shooting that happened in the car, what were the circumstances surrounding that? >> so this was a student, luis garcia, he was sitting in his car getting ready to leave because he was going to go prepare for a family or friend's

birthday. and he was just in his car. there was another -- there was a stolen car, from my understanding, other dps students not from the school and some sort of exchange of gunfire and it hit luis in the head. he was in the hospital for weeks before his family had to make the absolute worst decision to take him off of life support. so the students here have been rocked by that. my son sat next to luis in the spanish class, it's been a tough school year for the kids and the school all the way around. i can also tell you where the pat-down happened was steps away from the auditorium at east high school. my son, my step-son and other kids were inside for a school assembly at the time. so you talk about a trained resource officer being there to be able to engage with someone, what happens if this kid would have gotten away, what happens if they had not found him. just to think about the things, it's just -- it's so frightening

and just, i just shudder at the thought. >> sandra: looking through some of the things said by the superintendent, alicia, following this and on your screen you are seeing the parents reuniting with the children, remarkable scenes embraces of multiple people, that reuniting just brings tears to your eyes, alicia, thank god your children are safe, you know you had two kids who have also graduated from this school. but going back to the superintendent's words here, that they are now going to have two armed officers at that school until the end of the year. denver police have had a presence outside the high school for quite some time already, the mayor said, but then went on to say i think it's clear now that we need to do even more interdiction inside the buildings. >> think about what it took, sandra, that there was a student who was shot just months ago in

front of the school and two deans were shot, and now the mayor is in the conversation about returning school resource officers or officers of some sort to denver public schools. denver public schools is the largest school district in the state of colorado, and this has been an ongoing conversation, parents have been calling for this, students who have been calling for it and ignored. so, here we are, and if that's what happens as a parent, i can definitely say i'm all for it. my son is all for it. his friends are all for it. they are frustrated and they are scared and they don't think it's right and unfortunately, sandra, as a parent, i mean, and john as a parent, there is nothing worse than a child saying they are getting used to something that's pretty awful and i heard it from the kids here. >> john: as a parent, the shooting of luis garcia, soccer player, doing nothing, caught in the crossfire, as a parent, what

did you think and do after that? having three kids in that school where somebody was shot out front. i know that i would have been out of my mind. >> yeah, oh, no, we absolutely were, john. and my husband and i, we talked about the possibility of transferring the kids, but i can -- my son and my two stepsons are all juniors. we talked about it with them and they want to stay here, they have had their whole -- all their friends here, their whole school existence, their life up until now. they don't want to transfer and don't want to feel they are forced out, too. but as a parent, today, i'm starting to ask those questions all over again because this is ridiculous. and it's unsafe, and it's so sad. it's so sad. >> sandra: alicia, just reading through a statement from the governor of your state who has just put this out now, calling it another act of senseless gun violence rocking east high school community this morning,

his heart goes out to each and every student, staff member and parent he says in the statement. going on, says parents are angry and frustrated, they have a right to be. talks about easy access to guns, denver is not alone. but he goes on to make this call, it is also time to return school resource officers in our schools. removing them, he said, was a mistake and we must move swiftly to correct it. ready to work with dps and have to stand up as a community and be part of the solution. the latest from the governor there in colorado. >> yeah, and sandra, that is so encouraging to hear as a parent, excuse me, my son just came up and i had not seen him. come up here. so i'm sorry, i've not seen my kid since this all went down. so -- just really -- i'm so sorry, i'm so sorry. i'm so sorry -- there's no way you would have let your kid walk

by. >> sandra: if you need to step aside, please do. >> ok, ok, he's ok, he's good, you good? ok. he's good. he was the one -- he's the one who was telling me what was happening and my sister telling me what her daughter was telling her. so hearing -- hearing governor jared polis put that out there is encouraging, and hopefully it is helpful because when you have students going before adults and they don't feel like they are being heard and parents definitely don't feel like they have been heard, especially over the last few years as we have seen the effects of the shutdown that has had on education in schools and crime in general, we'll have to see if something actually comes from this. i can definitely say i hope so as a parent. i can say so, and i know this is a really weird thing, between reporting and a parent here. i'm speaking as a parent. >> john: if you have to go be with your son, do that or bring

him over and be with his mom. when you take a look at the statement from jared polis, also time to return school resource officers in the schools, removing them was a mistake and we must move swiftly to correct it. as a parent you've got to be thinking what -- what were you people thinking by removing them in the first place? >> oh, yeah. >> john: i mean, where's the -- and this is -- this is driving parents, i'm sorry for being a little opinionated here, but across the country, this is driving parents nuts that school boards are making decisions without consulting parents and then saying oh, crap, we screwed up. >> uh-huh. no, you know, you are exactly right, you bring up a great point about the frustrations the parents have had across the country and i can tell you just living here in the city of denver, local -- the local news stations and the denver post have been covering the frustrations of parents here

with the denver public school board in general because when they removed these officers from the schools, there was an outcry by parents but there was also i would definitely say a political agenda by some on the school board, similar to what we have seen in other cities where the parents don't feel like they have much of a say and they, they don't have much of a say when it comes to making these decisions that impact their own students and the school board has an outsized amount of power especially when it comes to political agenda. >> sandra: the kids embracing, and a father quoted in a local publication in denver who immediately went to the school after hearing about the shooting, his son was in lockdown in the library, we know no students have been injured in this shooting, we are still monitoring the situation with those two teachers. but he's quoted here saying this. i want to point out that this is

the fourth major incident here at east high, the father said, noting the recent shootings and various incidents. he says "the denver school board is failing us and it's really a problem." as i pull up in front of me the denver public school system statements, alicia, from summer of 2020, the dps board of education approved a resolution in the summer of 2020 to end all sro contracts, student resource officers, that is, with the denver police department. i mean -- what was the reasoning with that, and did they consult you as a parent, alicia? >> no. consulted as a parent, no. there are school board meetings, there are parents who go to these meetings, but ultimately the decision lies with the school board. and think about that, sandra. when did that happen? summer of 2020, during the shutdown, during the lockdown when everybody else was

distracted by everything else and parents were just at the very beginning of finding out what was going on inside their classrooms and that was, that's a whole other issue here, right. but yeah, when it comes to the school board, there has been a lot of frustration and the reason why the school board members who pushed for this said they didn't want the school resource officers in the school anymore that there were students who felt uncomfortable with officers being in the school. so they felt discomfort and so therefore they made this move. but i haven't talked to any parents or any kids or my kids' friends who said they thought that was a good idea. so, obviously someplace somewhere here there are parents and there are kids not to discount their opinions who feel this was the best idea. but we have seen the results of some of the decisions that have been made over the past three years when parents have realized how little their voice matters and what has come to pass. >> john: you know, alicia, katie pavlich just texted me to remind

that other school districts across the country have taken resource officers out of the schools to appease certain groups and meantime the violence continues and you know, we saw in florida after the horrible parkland shooting school resource officers, and there was one there, but they are going to redouble efforts to make sure somebody on scene can respond if somebody with a weapon suddenly turns violent. so, this is an issue that i think what happened today in your school to your children and to you as a parent is going to resonate across this country to sort of reinvigorate the idea that nobody is listening to us and you need to listen to us. the decisions you are making are not necessarily the right decisions. >> parents have had enough. and i think we have seen this in elections over the past couple of years that parents are really

getting tired and this is an issue that's going to continue to move forward, but unless there is some sort of difference, all we are going to do is sit here and go to school board meetings, speak to members of the media, and be really upset and transfer our kids out of schools that they want to go to. because we feel they need to be able to survive the day. >> sandra: i think it's important to get this in here. continuation of the announcement of summer of 2020 to end the contracts with the denver police department to have the school resource officers on campus, the reasoning for this decision and i'm reading this directly from the denver public school board's website, the reasoning for that decision is the belief that the close proximity of law enforcement to students on campuses directly contributes to the school to prison pipeline. studies show black and brown students arrested for minor school infractions are more likely to end up in the adult

criminal system entrenching the school to prison pipeline. and the governor has issued a statement after the latest school shooting saying removing those school resource officers was a mistake and we must swiftly move to correct it. they are currently working with the department, the denver police department and the denver public schools to step these back up in the community. alicia, we are so sorry you had to go through this today. >> john: alicia, our prayers are with you and your family and with the family and students who are there and of course with the school administrators who were wounded this morning. alicia, we'll let you get to your kids. >> thank you. thanks, guys. >> sandra: thank you, and jump back on as you need to. students are still leaving the school, remarkable, it happened at 10:00 local time this morning, going on a couple hours. we are told some students were not sent out of the building right away, you can still see them exiting. some were put in lockdown in the

libraries, gymnasium and other places, so some students are just now walking out of that school. david spunt is at the justice department, he's got what he is learning from federal officials about the latest incident in denver. david. l>> sandra, tragic day in denver. i'm in touch with federal law enforcement and as expected, both the fbi and atf are on the scene working with those local police headquarters. the fbi and atf happen to have large very capable field offices in denver in the capital of colorado. as far as the suspect's identity is concerned, hearing the same as the local police chief said we heard moments ago before alicia was on tv and we are glad her children are ok, is the fact that law enforcement members know who the suspect is. they are not saying the suspect's name, but they don't seem to be concerned about the fact they may not know who the suspect is, it's a matter of connecting with that suspect. i'm also told they are reaching

out to members of the suspect's family, friends, and likely will be doing a search at some point soon, if not already of the suspect's home. but clearly they know who he is as the atf and fbi continues to investigate. sandra. >> sandra: a quick follow-up on that. what can you add to why they wouldn't want to release the name of this individual. they are so certain who he is, this happened right there in the front of the school. so that anybody could let them know, you know, his regular whereabouts or help in assisting police find him. >> yeah, it's a great question and one that i asked. we all with like to know the name of the person, especially if they know the name of the person and they don't seem concerned about the fact that they will be able to find this person. i'm being told it's being run by the local police department there, it's up to the local police department to do that. that may change as things go on as things go on, rather, as the

manhunts continue and things get more tense, maybe a name will be released. as of now, it's coming from the local authorities on the ground but it's a very fair question, especially because authorities say hey, we know who this is, well then let everyone else know who it is. >> john: here is the problem with that, though, david, and that is this student is a juvenile and i would be surprised if they released the student's name. we'll see. >> yes. >> sandra: david, we'll get back to you as the news continues to come in. thank you. >> john: we are going to continue to monitor the breaking news out of denver but a busy wednesday here in washington, awaiting the white house briefing. as president xi and president putin end their three-day summit. how will the white house respond to what happened in moscow? >> sandra: just in, federal reserve did raise rates after what has been a tumultuous month for the markets amid the banking crisis. jay powell is going to defend

the decision when he takes to that microphone moments from now and it could be a market mover. we'll be watching that as well.

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>> john: fox news alert, the markets have been on edge and waiting to hear all week, now federal reserve chairman jay powell speaking after raising rates for the second time this year. the dow reacting to the quarter point hike. chairman powell forced to strike a balance between the near 40-year high inflation and the instability of the banking sector. but one democrat is not impressed with his job so far. >> we have the fed right at the center of the two biggest economic problems in this country. the first is that he has raised interest rates at an extreme level unlike anything we have ever seen in modern times. and it has certainly created problems throughout the banking system.

and then secondly, we have a banking system that we have lost multiple banks now and why, because the fed under chair powell has failed to supervise and regulate those banks as they are required to do. >> sandra: if you say it louder, people will listen. all right. bring in charlie hurt, i'm dying to know what you have to say about all this because first of all, she also goes on, she throws jay powell under the bus, he's gotten this all wrong as if the administration or democrats called out inflation when it was rearing its ugly head. but i don't know, were you anticipating the rate hike, so it has happened, markets are reacting, no major meltdown in the markets. is this going to cure inflation. >> when i want answers to questions like that, i turn to you as you know. i don't do math, i don't understand math but i do understand politics and i am certain that with inflation the way it is and with the fed

obviously looking like they have no idea what they are doing, and the federal government specifically the biden administration doing everything it seems to hurt the situation, that is a recipe for political disaster. >> sandra: more spending. more and more spending. >> and it's no different from the border crisis and it's no different from crime, like you know, crime follows defund the police. when you spend trillions of dollars and then you have inflation and nobody can afford groceries and gasoline, that's -- and these are -- these are truly kitchen table issues that people feel in a very profound way, even more so than crime, unless the crime is happening in their neighborhood, man, it's -- and you can draw a direct line from the fact that you can't afford your groceries to the policies of the biden administration. >> sandra: and if you are racking up your grocery bills on your credit card now, the average rate on a credit card if you are holding over is over

20%. buying a car and inflation has hit the car market, paying more for the car loan. just about everything, let alone the housing market and trying to buy a house right now, you are going to pay a whole lot more per month with interest rates going up. >> at the same time, you still have the president talking about paying for people's college education? or forcing mom and dads who could not pay for their own kids college education to suddenly have to pay for other people's college education, and that kind of unfairness mixed with the pain people feel, it becomes a toxic political environment. >> sandra: talking politics, desantis and piers morgan, a bit of the interview. >> you think you could beat biden? >> i think so. >> so you are running then. >> no, i said i think i could. look at florida. >> who would be harder to beat, biden or donald trump? >> i don't know, those are two different. >> sandra: piers interviewing

like no one else can. >> if you love politics -- >> sandra: in or out? what's happening? >> oh, he's in. right? >> sandra: what's he waiting for? >> well, i think that -- you know, obviously it's all timing. i think it's interesting he decided to go after trump all of a sudden, nothing happens by accident. >> sandra: he laughed off the nickname, though. >> and for all the nicknames we have watched trump come up with, i'm sorry, i love all of 'em this, i think they are fantastic, desantis is the first person to actually like lean into one and handled it exactly right. >> sandra: i don't know how to spell it. >> and too many vowels. >> it's pashth, and the "new york times" is like oh, he doesn't know how to spell desanctimonious. don't you get a joke? it's funny. and ron desantis, he's not a particularly hilarious guy, he's no donald trump in the humor

department, i thought that was good. >> sandra: how many nicknames do you have, charlie hurt is so good. >> chaz the spas, my older brother pinned me up when he was beating me up as a kid, and i have not lost that one. i'm not proud of it, even though i revealed it on national television. >> sandra: next time we'll talk shark fishing. >> please. >> john: some republicans in congress say the biden administration did not really back down on plans to ban gas stoves, just creative ways to get rid of them quietly. but a congresswoman will tell us how she is fighting to keep big brother out of your kitchen and far away from american stoves. >> sandra: and as government bureaucrats are busy worrying about your stove, our nation's enemies are brainstorming ways to bring the united states down. if you think the military has its priorities in check, wait

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this is not -- people from the humblest beginnings can rise to the highest ranks, do heroic things and the flippant desire to inject politics now is dividing this committee, it's dividing this country, it's completely unnecessary. >> sandra: that was republican senator eric schmidt sounding off on the rise of identity politics in the military at a hearing on the recruitment crisis. pushing back on the idea wokeness is to blame but says the crisis is real. air force missing the recruitment goal 10%, the army shorter, missing by 25%. they say covid shutdowns kept recruiters out of schools. only about 20% of americans are eligible to serve in the military right now. senator tom cotton, a veteran, wants the military to look at

changing rules around tattoos and juvenile records to expand the recruiting pool. john. >> john: sandra, house republicans introducing new legislation aimed at blocking the government from banning the use of gas stoves in kitchens while the biden administration denies any ban is on the way, the department of energy is now getting involved. arizona congresswoman's bill would prevent the new rule from taking effect and she joins us now. good to talk to you. this whole thing about a ban on gas stoves started with a commissioner from the consume products safety commission, son of the famous richard trumka union leader, the white house said oh, no, no, we are not thinking about a ban, but now the energy department is coming out with proposed new regulations to make the majority of gas stoves in the united states not pass the regulations. clearly this has not gone away. >> you are right it hasn't gone away, and all of the crisis

going on, we have banks that are failing, we have a border wide open, we have people that can't afford gasoline or groceries and this is the thing that biden is going to prioritize is banning people's gas stoves? it's absolutely ridiculous. and as you said, biden said oh, we are not going to ban gas stoves, well baloney. they were going to ban stoves in america that people use each and every day. and so my legislation save our gas stoves act will save gas stoves for americans so they have a choice. >> so when you take a look at all of the millions of people in america who have and rely on a gas stove to cook nightly meals, breakfast or whatever and the restaurants who say gas is the best, a lot of people in the country who are probably remembering the old charlton heston line, you can have my gas

stove when you pry it from my cold dead hands. >> i love that saying, yeah, maybe i should put that in my talking points for my legislation. >> john: just don't credit me. >> they are not stopping on gas stoves, they are going after washing machines now, too, so i'm going to do legislation on that, too. i'm going to fight back against these crazy rules. >> john: so your co-sponsor is kelly armstrong, and let me put up a statement to reinforce what it was that you said a second ago. the two of you in proposing this legislation said inflation is hurting everyone, we have a crisis at our southern border, north dakota is worried about being able to provide for their families. what is the biden administration focused on? controlling the kind of stove americans use? this is further incompetence from an administration that seems more interested in dictating every aspect of our lives by solving our problems. when the idea was floated first,

it was about indoor air quality, children with asthma who have a gas stove in the house have the asthma exacerbated. that may be true for a small portion of the population, but either a range hood or blower that takes the exhaust and exits it to the outside. also the study that was involved here that really prompted all of this has been dismissed by many people as junk science. so is this about health or is this just a furtherance of the green agenda? >> i think it's the green agenda. they hate oil and gas industry, they hate american-made oil and gas and so from every single agency they are going after it. i mean, this is attack on american made natural gas. so they are like oh, we are -- we are going to just ban the appliances that use natural gas. i mean, this is so blatant that they are going after american energy and that's why

republicans are going to be putting on the floor next week hr1, our number one priority bill, that would unleash american energy, get rid of some crazy regulations, increase permitting, but in addition to that, my bill that would save our gas stoves is going forward too. >> john: all right. we'll be covering all of that in the days and weeks ahead. congresswoman debbie lesko, good to talk to you. appreciate it. >> sandra: we are still getting updates from the ground there in denver, colorado following the school shooting, two administrators shot during a what was a routine check for firearms on a student there. routine pat-down of a student when a weapon was found. the student then pulled the trigger on two administration officials who are now in the hospital, one listed in critical condition, the other expected to be ok. but this is brand-new sound from students at that high school there in denver. take a listen. >> went on lockdown, saw

multiple ambulances pull up to the school, no police until we started walking, after like two minutes later we hear just tons and tons of sirens just speeding down over here. and then just, yeah, the school kind of just filled with police cars and swat and feds and the undercover cars and like it got really deep, like a lot of them. >> sandra: and the student who shot those two deans at this school there in denver is still at large. so there is a manhunt underway for that student. authorities obviously know who that student is, they have not revealed the identity of that student but the manhunt is underway at this hour and we continue to watch denver and the police for any local updates there on the ground. we'll bring that to our viewers as we get them. john. >> john: tiktok ceo is preparing to testify in front of lawmakers that the chinese-owned app poses no threat to national security.

new reporting shows it may not be the case. a cybersecurity out of toronto found 30 state government web codes found tracking. some states may be taking part in a data collection effort that could threaten our national security. but despite concerns, one far left squad member, new york congressman bowman is planning an event with influencers to oppose a ban. steve hilton, host of the next revolution. what an article said about this. presence of that code means u.s. state governments around the country are inadvertently participating in a data collection effort for a foreign-owned company, one that senior biden administration officials and lawmakers of both parties have said could be harmful to u.s. national security and the privacy of americans. this is what critics of tiktok have been warning about.

>> this is the central point and it's amazing to me, john, when you look at the way the democrats in particular were so fired up for year after year about russian interference, russian interference and everything, and here we have absolutely clearly demonstrated with more and more evidence all the time the extent of chinese regime interference in so many aspects of our government and our society and they don't just not care about it, in this particular case he welcomes it. it's absolutelily astonishing. and one further point we need to make. of course we should be concerned about the spying and the data collection, but the truth is, the chinese regime has found all sorts of ways to do that apart from tiktok. that's going on anyway. we saw it with the balloons, and other ways they do that. the real threat from tiktok, i would say, is not actually the spying and the data collection, it is the fact that this app is

not like any other social media platform where what you see is driven by the other users in your network and friends, it has an editorial voice, pushing things towards you and the things pushed towards the users of tiktok in america are deeply destructive. it's not just meddling in our democracy, this is meddling in our society in deeply destructive ways for the mental health of our children, eating disorders, suicide, all of this stuff is being deliberately pushed by tiktok. that's the danger. >> john: so the ceo of tiktok is going to be before congress tomorrow. he's already trying to win this in the court of public opinion. listen to what he said in a tiktok video. >> some politicians have started talking about banning tiktok. now, this could take tiktok away from all 150 million of you. let me know in the comments what you want your elected representatives to know about what you love about tiktok.

>> john: a few seconds left here, steve. he sees putting -- he's trying to motivate the masses here. >> yeah, exactly. good self-interest there, you would not expect anything else. but we have to put the public interest first. a very addictive app but it's an app that can be replicated, it does not depend on the network. it's about an editorial direction there and so if you took away tiktok you could easily replace it with the creative entrepreneur in silicon valley or somewhere else that could produce a service that's much better, not controlled by the chinese regime, and not as destructive of our society. >> john: i think we've got the intelligence and the technology to do that. steve, great to see you. see you sunday night. >> sandra: the cdc is sounding the alarm over a deadly fungus with super spores survive the human body's attempt to kill it, and it's showing up in hospitals nationwide. that's terrifying. dr. marc siegel is here, what do

we need to know about this, doctor? >> nice to see you, sandra. it's called candid aerus, and over the course of the pandemic it's tripled, 2500 cases in 2022. here is the problem. it's increasing drug resistance, as you just said it spreads in hospitals and nursing homes, not going to bother you if you are healthy, but if you are immunocompromised or in the hospital for a chronic illness or acute illness, it can get you pretty sick and if it gets you sick, 30 to 60% death rate which is what's really concerning. again, growing drug resistance has what's put the cdc on guard here and on alarm and we have new antifungal treatments happening, but only in the pipeline. i want to say one thing reassuring. it does not do well with warm blooded creatures like humans. fungi do extremely well with

cold-blooded creatures, that's why you see the ant disease, the zombie ant fungi spreading and they talked about that on hbo max "the last of us," huge response to that, but it's not going to get humans unless it mutates. this is controlled by our immune system, and emerging treatments. mutations worry me and also what is being done in the lab worries me. >> john: i know a few people who might qualify as cold-blooded individuals, doc, but you say it has a 30 to 60% death rate if you get it. if you get it, how do you treat it if it's that drug resistant. >> that's a really good point. immunocompromise i'm worried about. there is a drug that works most of the time. that's our guide, that's the best treatment. but that is showing a drug

resistance in 5 to 15% of casis. that's the one i have my eye on. but multiple resistance. we have a lot of antifungal drugs but this is a growing resistance. why the cdc is setting off the alarm. cdc also concerned about the fact that it's misdiagnosed all the time. we are not used to fungi spreading, we are not used to yeast spreading. there is yeast a lot of places but it has to be looked at carefully and missing a lot of the diagnosis in hospitals, the hospitals are geared up the super attention to covid and missed other emerging infections. >> sandra: all right, dr. marc siegel, good to know about that. does seem to be spreading across the country. john, a quick look at the markets because we touted that big federal reserve interest rate decision at the top of the hour and jay powell did raise rates a quarter point. market reacted with a move into the green, and look at that. the markets go up, they go down, right, john as you always say

and here we are back in negative territory. so they are still trying to digest the news conference that is happening right now, why jay powell said svb bank was an outlier but we need to strengthen supervision and regulation, so everybody is trying to interpret his words. >> john: we'll watch because the market goes down -- >> sandra: i knew you would say that. good to be with all of you. thank you so much for joining us. i'm sandra smith. >> john: i'm john roberts. >> martha: good afternoon. i'm martha maccallum. [ audio difficulties ]