federal crime that the federal government didn't think warranted a prosecution. >> john: does it seem odd to you that here you have a d.a. trying to bootstrap this case from a misdemeanor to a felony and relying as his star witness a guy for whom the truth seems to be a fluid thing. you are bringing a case against a former president. >> yeah. that was the selling point of michael cohen was his ethical flexibility. he would do things others would not do. and that's hardly someone you want to put on the stand. for bragg, he is about to set history in indicting the first former president in history. i don't believe history will be kind to him. i believe that this will invite infamy for bragg. i believe this case will ultimately be shown to be dramatically flawed both a legal and factual basis.

>> john: we'll see what happens. great to get your legal opinion. >> dana: right now lawmakers are about to grill the ceo of tiktok as the massive social media platform faces calls for a nationwide ban. welcome to a new hour of "america's newsroom," i'm dana perino. bill is off today. bill hemmer that is. good morning, john. >> john: they couldn't find anybody else. i was around. can i sit in for a while? john roberts. the book to ban tiktok partly based on the fears the chinese communist government could use the platform to collect information on users essentially spying on us or push propaganda with the power to drive narratives that divide america and benefit china. >> dana: in prepared remarks released ahead of today's hearing the company ceo is expected to tell lawmakers that bytedance is not an agent of china spinning on the hill moments ago ahead of his testimony. >> thank you for covering this. i have a few words to say before i go in.

we are very excited to be here. many misconceptions and i'm proud to come here to present them and all the users in the country. i will make commitments to this committee and all users of this country. number one prioritize safety, particularly for teenagers and keep it a top priority for us. second, we are going to firewall protected u.s. data from any unwanted foreign access. three, we commit to keep tiktok free. free place for freedom of expression without any manipulation by any government and fourth committing to transparency and committing to third party monitoring to keep us accountable. thank you very much. >> john: chew says the app which has 150 million active users in the united states does not pose any risk to americans or share data with the chinese government. judging from key members of the committee he will be facing today it looks like tiktok could

be in for an uphill battle. listen here. >> it is very important that he answer for some of the repeated lies that we know about tiktok. >> i haven't decided for sure whether we should be banning tiktok but it is something we have to consider. >> mr. chew is going directly to the tiktok users in america, the 150 million americans now only underscores the importance of us taking action. >> dana: aishah hosni is live on capitol hill. it is buzzing this morning. >> good morning to you, both. that's right. chew just walked right past me as he went inside that hearing room. i asked him multiple times do you think you can prevent a nationwide ban of tiktok today? he just smiled at me and kept walking. didn't want to talk to the press at all. it is a buzz here on capitol hill. all eyes are on him. take a look at this line of folks that are still waiting to get into the hearing room. probably won't be able to get a

seat in here. this hearing is expected to be long and brutal. we're told that it could last up to five hours in order to accommodate all 32 members of this committee and he will have little reprieve. that's because he is facing rare bipartisan scrutiny. >> i'm concerned about our national security and kids and a lot of other stuff in between. >> we want to make sure that on our devices at home, that is not being shared with the chinese communist party. >> they're owned by the oligarchs in the communist party. i'm going to trust the intelligence committee more than i trust the ceo. >> chew is trying to save the app from a nationwide ban. the white house even has reportedly threatened to ban if tiktok doesn't -- he is trying

to say it is an important platform that benefits small business owners. a lot of entrepreneurs and influencers attended a rally at the capitol hosted by progressive bowman. they are also here today, guys. unfortunate part for chew today is that bowman is not on this committee and doesn't appear that chew will have very many allies at all during this hearing. >> john: let's bring in joe concha, columnist for the hill. this guy yesterday used his own platform to try to garner support. listen to the message he put out on tiktok. >> some politicians have started talking about banning tiktok. this could take tiktok away from all 150 million of you. let me know in the comments what you want your elected representatives to know about what you love about tiktok.

>> john: wow. smooth operator about this guy. he knows what he is doing. >> wow, john, you made a shot a reference. that's the early 90s. impressive. congratulations on that. look, mr. chew didn't mention that tiktok is seen by republicans, democrats, people sane, sober and objective as chinese mal ware. a spy application run by our biggest foreign adversary. bipartisan calls to ban it from the u.s. and the white house won't join the call for now along with representative bowman. this is something that we all have to, i would think, see some lawmakers on both sides of the aisle as they've come together push this over the finish line because this isn't about free speech. this isn't about tiktok and 150 million users here in the u.s. on an active level. this is something that obviously is a threat to national

security. and from representative bowman, by the way, to say that it is racist to ban tiktok in this country, we saw that card played during covid and it was ridiculous. it is ridiculous now to associate racism to this situation when clearly the chinese government is harvesting information from all those active users on tiktok. it is proven and on the record and something that lawmakers have to address in a serious way. >> dana: we learned the ceo of tiktok doesn't allow his own children to be on tiktok and we have information about how tiktok is used in china for children. you get 40 minutes a day on the app and all about science experiments, museum exhibits and educational things you can do. that's not what we're talking about here. >> isn't that amazing? i won't let my own kids on it but make sure your kids are on it. as a parent of a 7 and 9-year-old i read in china tiktok looks much different than it does in the u.s. in china it is a legitimate

educational tool with plenty of guardrails on them and it doesn't have all the nonsense on it that we see here. and these tiktok stars that are coming out saying you have to continue to allow tiktok to exist here in the u.s. are only acting in their self-interest. their businesses depend on it. there are plenty of other platforms that aren't associated with the chinese government where they can ties and promote their services. >> john: it is interesting the way the chinese government through tiktok and cap cut as well to edit videos are the most popular apps and we have so many tech people in this country that could create something like that. the question is what do we do about this? donald trump talked about banning tiktok. the courts intervened. tiktok has got very deep pockets. have a very smart ceo. if congress tries to ban them they'll march right to court and take it as far as they need to to try to stay on.

>> precisely. if congress is successful in banning them and the white house signs off on it, this will be in the legal system in the courts for many, many years because as you said, tiktok has the resources, they have the money, they had the legal team and time to extend this for we could be having this conversation 5 and 6 years from now and tiktok would be active in this country. you need to take a first step at some point and appears congress is taking the first step today. >> john: if only they had -- we're still waiting for this to start here. there is a contradiction, joe, with the white house. the white house is talking about potentially banning this. talking about the national security aspect of it and at the same time president biden recently as st. patrick's day was in a tiktok video. >> we've seen that often, right? we saw it with former president obama using tiktok to get out the vote. we see it with president biden in the situation you just saw

there. we saw the infamous video of a tiktok influencers with jen psaki when she was the white house press secretary and him walking around the white house and it's one of the more ridiculous things you'll ever see. it appears the white house could be talking about banning tiktok but love it as a tool in terms of communicating their message. always judge a politician and administrations on their actions and not their words. >> john: chew said they have 150 million people. quite a platform. appreciate it. thank you. >> dana: also on the hill today the house is debating a bill that would give parents more control over their kids' education. the parents bill of rights would require schools to be transparent about curriculums and other important issues. senior congressional correspondent chad pergram live with these details. what are the chances of this legislation passing seth >> gets through the house, unclear in the senate. house republicans promise to back up parents after two years of rauch us a school board

meeting. they also have questions about what is being taught in schools. republicans say the doj threatened to target parents who got out of line. >> like every other institution in america, schools must be accountable. this bill will insure that accountability to the people who matter the most, parents who are clearly concerned about their children's education and their children's future. >> the plan requires schools to post educational goals online. the bill invites public input for the establishment of curriculum and mandates schools announce what books are available in the library. democrats say it's ironic republicans want to nationalized indication. for years conservatives insist education should be a local issue. >> withholding funding in school districts don't comply. the party of limited government and states rights wants to

nationalize our education system making congress the board of education for the entire country. >> democrats suggest other motives by conservatives. >> when they talk about a parents' bill of rights a specific demographic of parent to have a bill of rights to let's say, for example, remove or call for the removal of certain books. those books are an attack on our students. those books are attacks on trans and lgtbq students. >> it was a pledge to america for the mid-terms. the house votes on the bill tomorrow. the bill likely dies in the senate. >> dana: thank you. >> john: a colorado coroner's office confirming a body found in the woods near an abandoned car belongs to a 17-year-old student accused of shooting two administrators of a denver high school yesterday. one was released from the

hospital, the other in serious condition. no word on cause of death for the alleged shooter. >> dana: we keep a close eye on capitol hill. the ceo of tiktok tries to make the case his company isn't posing a national security threat or an agent of china. >> john: a woman is body slammed to the ground during a robbery and paralyzed. now her attacker is getting reduced bail? we aren't making this up. >> dana: the bad guys in seattle better watch out. the city's attorney means business when it comes to fighting crime and she is winning rave reviews. that attorney joins us live next. >> there is a common theme here comes down to leadership and just happens to be in many of the cities you have democratic leaders who have pretty much been drinking the kool-aid and it has become a fricking free for all. think he's posting about all that ancient roman coinage?

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customers and to fuel their growth. now as tiktok has grown, we've tried to learn the lessons of companies that have come before us when it comes to the safety of teenagers. while the vast majority of people on tiktok are over 18, in one of our fastest growing demographics are people over 35. we spent a lot of time adopting measures to protect teenagers. many of those measures are firsts for the social media industry. we forbid direct messaging for people under 16 and have a 60 minute watch time by default for those under 18. we have a fleet of tools so parents can participate in their teen's experience and make the choices right for their family. we want tiktok to be a place where teenagers can come to learn which is why we recently launched a feed that features educational videos about stem. stem videos already have over

116 billion views on tiktok. and i think tiktok is inspiring a new generation to discover a passion for math and science. i would also like to talk about national security concerns that you have raised that we take very, very seriously. let me start by addressing a few misconceptions about bytedance which we are a subsidiary. bytedance is not owned or controlled by the chinese government. it is a private company. 60% of the company is owned by global institutional investors, 20% is owned by the founder and 20% owned by employees around the world. bytedance is five board members, three of them are american. now tiktok itself is not available in inland china. we are headquartered in los angeles and singapore and have 7,000 employees in the u.s. today. still, we have heard important concerns about the potential for

unwanted foreign access to u.s. data and potential manipulation of the tiktok u.s. eco system. our approach has never been to dismiss or trivialize any of these concerns. we've addressed them with real action. now that's what we've been doing for the last two years, building what amounts to a firewall that seals off protected u.s. user data from unauthorized foreign access. the bottom line is this. american data stored on american soil by an american company overseen by american personnel. we call this initiative project texas. that's where oracle is head quarted. today u.s. tiktok data is stored in oracle service. only vetted personal in tiktok data security can control access to this data. now additionally we have plans for this company to report to an independent american board with strong security credentials.

there is still some work to do. we have legacy u.s. data sitting in our service in virginia and singapore. we're deleting those and expect that to be complete this year. when that is done all protected u.s. today it yeah will be under the protection of u.s. law and under the control of the u.s.-led security team. it eliminates that concern that some of you shared with me that tiktok user data can be subject to chinese law. this goes further, by the way, than what any other company in our industry have done. we also provide unprecedented transparency for the tiktok app and recommendation engine. third party validators like oracle and others will review and validate our source code and algorithms. we will further provide access to researchers which helps them study and monitor our content eco system.

we believe we are the only -- the only company that offers this level of transparency. trust is about actions we take. we have to earn the trust with decisions we make for our company and our products. the potential security, privacy, content manipulation and concerns raised about tiktok are not unique to us. the same issues apply to other companies. we believe what's needed are clear and transparent rules that apply broadly to all tech companies. ownership is not at the core of addressing these concerns. now as i conclude, there are more than 150 million americans who love our platform and we know we have a responsibility to protect them which is why i'm making the following commitments to you and to all our users. number one, we will keep safety particularly for teenagers as a top priority for us. number two, we will firewall protect u.s. data from unwanted

foreign access. number three, tiktok will remain a place for free expression and will not be manipulated by any government. and fourth, we will be transparent and give access to third party independent monitors to remain accountable for our commitments. i would be grateful for any feedback you have and look forward to your questions, thank you very much. >> as you know the testimony that you are about to give is subject to title 18, section 1001 of the united states code. as you state in your testimony bytedance is tiktok's parent company. is it accurate to say you are in regular communication with the ceo of bytedance? >> yes, i am in communication with them. >> kelly jong, are you in regular communication with kelly?

>> i am not in regular communication with her. >> the bytedance editor in chief is dong, correct? >> i believe so. >> and wu is beijing bytedance technology board member and also an official of the cyberspace administration in china, is this correct? >> i believe so. they are not in direct -- >> all of these individuals work or are affiliated with the chinese communist party at the highest levels of leadership at bytedance, a company where you previously served as the chief financial officer and where you regularly communicate with their ceo. tiktok has told us you weren't sharing data with the ccp but leaked audio from within tiktok has proven otherwise. tiktok told us you weren't tracking the geo location of american citizens. you were. tiktok said you weren't spying on journalists, you were. in your testimony you date

bytedance is not beholding to the crick cp. each of the individuals i listed are affiliated with the communist party including ping who is reported to be the secretary of bytedance and who is called for the party committee to take the lead across all party lines to insure that algorithm is enforced by correct political direction. just this morning the "wall street journal" reported that the ccp is opposed to a forced sale of tiktok by bytedance quoting a spokesman saying the chinese government would make a decision regarding any sale of tiktok. so the ccp believes they have the final say over your company. i have 0 confidence in your assertion that bytedance and tiktok are not beholding to the ccp. next question. content is a way of promoting and moderating content in your current or previous positions within chinese company have

employees engaged in that content for users outside of china. >> our heeding process is approved by local teams in various countries. >> the answer is yes, thank you. have any moderation tools been used to remove content on tiktok associated with the uighur genocide. >> we do not remove that kind of content. tiktok is a place of freedom of expression. if you use our app you can go on it and see a lot of users around the world expressing content on their topic and many others. >> what about the massachusetts masser in in tin monday square. >> you can search it. >> i will remind you making false or misleading statements is a federal crime. >> i understand. you can go on our platform and find that content. >> thank you. reclaiming my time can you say with 100% certainty that the ccp

cannot use your company or its division to pro- >> we do not promote or remove content at the request of the chinese government and. >> the question is are you 100% certain that they cannot use your company to promote such messages? >> it is our commitment to this committee and users we will keep it free from any manipulation. >> as i previously referenced tiktok spied on american journalist. can you say neither tiktok or bytedance can target americans with similar techniques? >> i disagree that it's spying. it was an internal invest. >> can you do surveillance of other americans? >> we will protect the u.s. user data. it is commitment we've given to the committee.

>> i want to hear you say with 100% certainty that neither bytedance nor tiktok employees can target other americans with similar surveillance techniques as you did with the journalists. >> i disagree with the characterization of surveillance and we've given our commitments. the four commitments that we will not be influenced by any government on these issues. >> d.o.j. is investigating this surveillance right now. to the american people watching today, hear this. tiktok is a weapon by the chinese communist bart to spy on you, manipulate what you see and exploit our future generation. a ban is only a short term way to address tiktok and the data privacy bill is the only way to stop tiktok from ever happening again in the united states. i yield back. now yield to the ranking melber for five minutes. >> thank you, madam chair. let me start out by saying, mr. chew, i don't find what you

suggested with project texas and this firewall that's being suggested to whoever will be acceptable to me. in other words, i still believe that the beijing communist government will still control and have the ability to influence what you do. so this idea this project texas is simply not acceptable. according to a recent report, tiktok is on target to make between 15 and $18 billion in revenue this year. is that an accurate forecast? >> congressman, as a private company we are not sharing our numbers publicly. >> how much money will tiktok make by delivering personalized advertisements to your users in the united states? >> respectfully, as a private company we aren't disclosing that. >> look, the impression you are

giving -- and i can understand why you are trying to give that impression -- is that you are just performing some kind of public service here, right? this is a benign company performing a public service. maybe you are -- maybe that's not what you are saying but i don't buy it. my concern is primarily about the privacy issue. the fact that tiktok is making all kinds of money by gathering private information about americans that they don't need for their business purposes and then they sell it. and i mentioned this legislation that the chair and i have that would minimize data collection and make it much more difficult for tiktok and other companies to do that. so if you want to make some commitments today i will ask you to make some commitments with regard to this legislation. you will tell me well, the bill

isn't passed and therefore i don't have to do it. you say you are benign and want to do good things for the public. let me ask you, what about a commitment that says that you won't sell the data that you collect? would you commit to that, not selling the data you collect? >> i believe we don't sell data to any data brokers. >> you don't sell to anyone. >> we don't sell data to data brokers. >> do you sell it to anyone? under our bill you could only use the data for your own purposes not to sell it to commit. >> i am in support of some rules. >> i didn't ask you about rules. whether the company, tiktok to not sell its data to anyone and use justing it for internally. >> i can get back to you. >> another thing that says we would prohibit targeting

marketing to people under the age of 17. would you be willing to agree to prohibit targeted marketing to people, americans under the age of 17? >> congressman, we have actually stricter rules for advertisers in terms of what they can show to our users. >> would you be willing to prohibit targeted marketing to those under 17? that's what's in our bill. >> i understand there is talk and legislation around the country. >> i want you to make that commitment without the legislation since you want to do good things. why not? >> it's something we can look into and get back to you. >> we have in our bill a requirement of heightened protection for sensitive data particularly location and health data. would you commit to not gathering or dealing with location or health data unless you get affirmative consent from the consumer? under our bill, those are categorized as sensitive. unless the person specifically

says i want you to collect that data you wouldn't be able to location and health data. >> in principle i support that. we don't collect precise gps or health data at this point. >> would you be willing to make that commitment you won't connect location and health data without you are saying at all. >> this is data that's frequently collected by many other companies. >> i know other companies do it. i don't think they should without affirmative consent. you want to go a good actor. why not make that commitment to me today? >> we are committed with our users about what we collect. i don't believe what we collect is more than most. >> you are trying to give the impression you will move away from beijing and the communist party. you are trying to give the impression that you are a good actor. but the commitments that we would seek to achieve those goals are not being made today. they are just not being made.

you'll continue to gather and sell data and continue to do all these things and continue to be under the rule of the communist party through your organization that owns you. in any case, thank you, madam chair. >> gentleman yields back. gentleman from texas. >> thank you mr. chew for joining us today. i think we've heard you say multiple times that tiktok is not a chinese company, bytedance is not a chinese company. but according to an article in today's "wall street journal," quoting here china's commerce ministry said thursday a sale or di vestment of tiktok will involve exporting technology that needs to be approved by the chinese government. the reported efforts by the biden administration with undermine global investors' confidence in the u.s. said a

ministry spokeswoman. if that's true, china will firmly oppose it, she said, referring to the forced sale. so despite your assertions to the contrary, china certainly thinks it is in control of tiktok and its software. is that not correct? >> congressman, tiktok is not available in mainland china and today we are headquartered in los angeles and singapore. i'm not saying the founders of bytedance are not chinese or we don't make use of chinese employees like many other companies around the world. we use expertise on some engineering projects. >> according to their ministry spokeswoman it would be a di vestment in exporting technology from china. china thinks they own it even though you do not. madam chair i would like to put today's "wall street journal" into the record.

mr. chew, i wouldn't ask you to discuss my privileged attorney/client materials but did anyone aside from your lawyers assist you in preparation for today's hearing? >> i prepared for this hearing with my team here in d.c. >> did anyone at bytedance provide input, help, or instruction for your testimony today? >> congressman, this is a very high profile hearing. my phone is full of well-wishers but i prepared for this hearing with my team here in d.c. >> are you willing to share who helped prepare you for this hearing with the committee? >> i can follow up with you. >> can you guarantee no one at bytedance had a role in preparing you for today's hearing? >> like i said, congressman, this is a high profile hearing. a lot of people from around the world were sending my wishes and

advice but i prepared with my team in d.c. >> are the attorneys representing tiktok also representing bytedance? >> yes, i believe so. >> what percentage of tiktok revenue does bytedance retain. give me a ballpark estimate. >> as a private company we are not prepared to disclose financials in public today. >> can you get back to us with a ballpark without asking for precise figures so the committee can have some understanding of the percentage of tiktok revenue that bytedance retains? >> i understand the question. respectfully as a private company we're not disclosing our financials today. >> prior to today's hearing did anyone affiliated with the chinese communist party discuss this hearing senior or other tiktok senior management. >> since i've been ceo of this company i have not had discussion with chinese

government officials. >> what about the chinese communist party itself. have any of those officials discussed this with you? >> like i said i have not had any discussion with chinese government officials. i don't know the political affiliation of everybody i speak to so i can't verify the statement. >> let me ask you a question in a different correction. a few weeks ago this committee had a field hearing in mcallen, texas on the issue of fentanyl and illegal immigration. and one of our witnesses brandon judd, a 25 year border patrol agent said that all social media platforms play a role in illegal immigration and one of the ways cartels advertise their services throughout the world and convince people to put themselves in their hands and come to the united states. the cartels all use social media platforms. are you aware of this phenomenon? >> any content that proper most

human abuse is violation our community guidelines which dictates what is not allowed on our platform. we identify and remove them from the platform. >> it would be helpful with the committee to share how you've removed people. what we heard at the hearing was that tiktok was one of the platforms that recruits adolescents to the united states to help transport people who have been trafficked into the country as well as contra banned substances. would you help us with that understanding who you have removed from your platform? >> i would be delighted to check with my team and get back to yours. >> gentleman's time is expired. recognizes the lady from california. >> dana: you are watching that started out as a very hot strong debate. this hearing where the tiktok ceo is testifying in front of a bipartisan committee. one of the things that's

interesting. you don't always have the members of congress that prepared. sometimes john i think we can say that's fair. that's not the case today. these members of congress know what they are talking about. the witness is fairly well prepared. a lot of things he will have to pass on and not get back to. this hearing promises to glean a lot of information. >> john: this is completely bipartisan, at least so far. both were on the same page when it came to tiktok. i think they did their research but i think that shows chew might have been taken aback. rogers said it is a tool to spy on americans that was really strong. >> dana: we'll monitor that and more fireworks to come as we continue on that. >> john: when people got along. breaking news, alvin]

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>> dana: the tiktok ceo is in for a grilling on capitol hill as they have a bill to ban tiktok and make it difficult for them to operate the way they have been and their joint concern is national security. want to bring in kellyanne conway. the governor of florida when he spoke to piers morgan was asked about tiktok. let's listen. >> would you ban tiktok?

>> i would, i think so. >> from everybody in america? >> i think it is a security risk and they're harvesting so much data on our citizens. >> dana: do you think tiktok is going to be maybe not the issue but an issue in the 2024 campaign? >> it will be for several reasons, dana. one all eyes are on china whether it's the uighurs, fentanyl pouring over the borders and into the country, the virus, which we still don't have transparency about and tiktok. the hearing is fascinating. the chairwoman came so prepared. i believe that the gentleman from tiktok gave some statistics that maybe the rest of us aren't aware of. most users over 18, 60 minute limit for kids under 18. a company headquartered in los angeles and not available in china. we should think about that. i'm not a big ban things person. i was surprised to hear governor desantis say it. so many parents feel desperate

to get control here and so many national experts say we're at tremendous risk. in the trump administration we faced the same issue. president trump would have preferred to have a u.s. purchaser of tiktok. you are subject to u.s. laws and regulations and we can hold them accountable and make it more transparent. so i was surprised to hear the governor desantis say that but said it with such conviction and certainty that he thought it through. i think parents are listening closely to what he says. a parents right renaissance in florida and around the country and he has done a nice job there. when it comes to facing down china the governors will have to have a crisp, clear, compelling message. governors don't do that. it is president trump not governor desantis who has been with putin and xi and kim. >> dana: all governors that run end up with it.

the journalist that asked president george w. bush when he was governor to name the president of the country and a gotcha question. >> he won anyway. >> dana: piers morgan asked additional questions long range interview. more here. let's listen. >> what is your view of peter? >> he has grand am bigss and hostile to the united states. the thing we've seen he doesn't have the capability to realize his ambition. >> would you support holding him accountable for war crimes? >> i think he should be held accountable and he is a war criminal. >> dana: people are watching how ron desantis is answering questions about russia. >> "new york times" posted a piece that they took several peeks to go through the national security record of desantis and votes and three terms in congress. they came up saying he is more lake jackson.

a critic of wilson politics with national security but giving everybody a little bit to latch onto. the independents, others, i think it was a very strong denouncement of vladimir putin and people wherever you fall on the ukrainian spectrum how much money, how much involvement for the u.s., everybody should agree putin needs to be defeated and he was clear. some of my favorites didn't get coverage. desantis rebutting critics. he spoke from the heart about his wife, casey, staring down and beating breast cancer and the loss of his sister at the age of 30 from an emotbolism. >> dana: i was on jesse's show last night. ron desantis had a great roll-out and poll numbers go down and then this week he

sharpened his attacks a little bit. gave a long form interview to piers morgan still saying he hasn't decided to run. this week and him. >> it was the bridge between the book tour and the possible presidential announcement in this way. he gave himself many off ramps in the interview. i have a young family, i love being governor of florida. more work to do here. yet he went around and made the country his focus group and pressure tested how much americans in the different places were responding to his message. i don't believe that the 2024 presidential nomination will be decided on how you handle covid. i can't think that republican voters in 2024 want to hear much about covid. and woke is a little too much attention from governor desantis. i believe that if he talked more about the florida economic miracle and made clear from the beginning i'm not running in the non-trump lane. that's a crowded bike path.

i am running in the ron desantis lane and here is what it means. >> dana: carve out your own. >> he has off ramps. i'm skeptical if he should run. maybe 2028. being governor and that generation will be coming to the fore. president trump is beating him in many polls. some polls done by media companies that don't endorse trump he is clearing 45 or 50%. they would have said trump is done. desantis in florida, kim reynolds in iowa. preside president obama -- biden carried those. john we're learning during joe biden's tenure as vice president his office worked to bury an

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>> john: new le revealed emails from 2015 show then vice president bide intried to suppress a bloomberg news story on his son's investment firm. guy benson and olivia beavers in relation to a 2015 new york's item whether -- hunter's business partner asked then v.p. biden coms director if any other news outlets asked about it. vp finished an interview with bloomberg reporter asking about it. she assures me she is doing everything she can to not use

it. i would just urge her as i know you were doing there is no new news there. absolutely. we have had two conversations about it. she will only use if her editors hold a gun to her head. you are in this business, does that seem to cross a line? >> i actually feel like about once a week i have coms people trying to shut down a story i'm doing. if a story democrats don't like they call me. a story republicans don't like they call me. a lot of this happens behind the scenes. editors get pulled in and get discussed. i don't really know what they had in discussions behind the scenes but the story did get published we do know and so i'm interested to see if there is any more information that comes out about it. >> john: we always have conversations behind the scenes of stories, i've been yelled at by press secretaries. this is an outside business trying to convince the white house to shut down story. that takes it to a different level. >> there are multiple people involved trying to protect

hunter biden and we've seen this over and over again. john, i was watching yesterday during the press briefing peter doocy asked a reasonable question about yet more information involving the biden family and payments from china and the response from karine jean-pierre was not a response. it was i won't respond. it has been a bunch of lies for years. the people who have lied about this are joe biden, his campaign and this administration. joe biden made assertions regarding his son and family in some of these payments that are proveably false and i understand the white house probably doesn't want to address this in depth but it is a fair game question from peter doocy and to just punt the whole thing and say we won't address it because republicans lie that is stonewalling totally unacceptable. >> john: i want to go to call for number three. the president was asked about the information that james comer the oversight committee has about the money trail between china to four members of the

biden family. listen to this exchange. >> i have subpoenaed bank records to prove the family took over a million dollars from a chinese communist party-backed energy company for no apparent reason. he still is denying it and lying about it. so yes, we expect an apology from joe biden. we're disappointed but not shocked that the mainstream media turned a blind eye to this. >> john: that's not what i was looking for. i don't know where it came from. biden said it is not true this money happened. comer says he has the receipts. >> i was with comer in august of last year traveling with him and he was talking about the bank records then and hinted it has become a question that reporters were asking him if you don't get them will it hurt your investigation. he has gotten them and has receipts. if biden is saying that's not what has happened, we will be able to see very soon. >> john: saying it is not true, you have to prove it.

i don't expect to hear an apology from the republicans to the president but answer frees the white house about questions rooted the actual documents and evidence. >> john: we'll see where it goes. dana, great to spend the day with you today. >> dana: i think you helped me prep for the five today with the panel. sandra smith another woman you know well is in for harris, "the faulkner focus" is up next. here she is. >> sandra: lawmakers taking on tiktok. the ceo testifying on capitol hill is trying to convince america not to ban the chinese-owned app. this is "the faulkner focus" and i'm sandra smith in for harris. lots of eyeballs including the white house watching the hearing at tiktok ceo chew testifies before the house energy and commerce committee. the 32 members of that committee will have five hours to press chew on the app's chinese