$50 trillion. we've been kicking this down the alley year after year when we could have made modest adjustments in the 70s, 80s and 90s. there's no plan in place. we'll be right behind france. >> neil: yeah, i'm afraid you're right about that, professor. thanks very much. we'll explore that tomorrow. "the five" is now. hi, i'm craig gutfeld. a rain gutter is your water slide. it is 5:00 in new york, this is "the five." if you have concerned about china, shut up your racist zenophobe. they are testifying before congress for the first time. lawmakers are looking to ban it

over national security risks. there is reports that they are spying on journalists scooping up the personal data of 150 million american users. it is a rare bipartisan effort. but a member of the squad would rather make it about identity politics. >> why the hysteria. and the republicans have been sounding the alarm to create a red scare around china. let's not be racist towards china and express our xenophobia. republicans don't have any swag, that's the problem. >> tiktok ceo saying the company is not an agent of the chinese communist party, but that didn't go well. >> i have seen no evidence that

they have access to that data. >> i find that actually preposterous. >> we don't sell data to any data -- >> i didn't ask if you sell to brokers. >> do they have access to american data? >> we rely on global data. >> they have repeatedly chosen the past for more surveillance and manipulation. your platform should be banned. >> what they really fear the most is that a tiktok ban could end a gravy train of support. democrats from the top downturn to the app to reach gen z.

a ban would ruin her career as a sincer. >> yeah, i mean it is too obvious. dinner after dinner after dinner. it doesn't matter to me if they ban it or not. i signed up for a tiktok account because i thought that was the thing to do to promote the show. i go in and i enter my demographics and they ask me personal questions about my likes and dislikes and i log on and i'm flooded with the same video. 30-year-old white moms dancing to hip hop in kitchens. apparently that is what i love. and they know me, and i don't

like that we spy on other people through our platforms, google, facebook, it is what they are allowed to do. let's just save nagasaki. you don't want to let thatwoke ideology enter into national security. it puts lives in danger. people are talking about the spying and the danger, but in a way that the company can amplify stories and videos that manipulate the mindsets of the people that use it. that's when you're seeing girls with depression and suicide. boys no longer talking to the opposite sex, instead looking at tiktok videos.

>> i thought one of the most interesting parts is why he had to explain why his kids are not allowed on tiktok. and there -- china doesn't allow our apps in china, okay? do we have to allow theirs in america? i don't think the biden administration did a good job of articulating the national security threat. he asked well, is it the president banning tick took or selling itself off? and just last week he made a st. patrick's d video on tiktok. what does he want people to think. and when you look at what happened in the last week or so, there has been a defense of tiktok. in 2019, tiktok spent $270 on lobbying, not that much, okay? last year $5.3 million. they brought their influences

there. they got to jammal bowman, and that is a lot of money to spend to allow china, who is undertaking a genocide, which you will hear about today, i think that it is time for american's to take a moment and say wow, bipartisan is still possible in america. that is a good hearing today. the members of congress were pretty prepared on a technological issue which they're usually not. >> it is kind of -- it is, it tells you about the seriousness that people take this that left and right can get together and talk about bother you that there is always people that use racist as part of the debate. >> it bothers me that you bring it up. but since i have to talk about it every day, i was glad that he was so far out on a limb by himself. the american civil liberties

union is on his side about it. it is a couple cause members and a free speegs organization. >> their reputation has been degraded for sure, but it is still something. it is not a nothing organization. i think the great, it was great to see they have different angles. it seems like everybody has a little piece of the puzzle. i don't know if it was bipartisan coordination, which would be incredible, but i was impressed by that. the only social media that i have is twitter and i use it to stay in touch with the news. i'm scared of social media, and i was talking to a journalist that has a separate phone for

tiktok. but it is an issue with amazon marketplaces. you need to make sure you keep track of the livelihoods that are part of this. i realize that tiktok was not around a few years ago. that is the nature of the business. i hope it is -- why can't we make an american ted talk, right? >> you could absolutely move from it to some of the american social media platforms. the amazing part of this is that i didn't hear a lot of discussion today and by the way i was think l that it is bipartisan. i looked at them and i said isn't that great? they're agreeing on something. but the dangers, the bio metric

identifiers. they're exploiting us. and this guy who comes in, he was evasive. he was misleading, i think he thought -- someone said he wasn't prepared. i think he thinks that we're stupid. that bite dance is answerable. that the parent company, tiktok is not answerable to the ccp. they can't say to bite dance that i want to see everything that is on there. and when you join it with everything else going on, china, the ccp, just had a spy craft going our other sites and you have putin now meeting with xi jinping. it is a new world order. is it a surprise they would use this particular medium to get information on us to spy on what our kids do? and while we're at it we should

look at google and social media. and people that respond with it is racist. it shows you how shallow they are. he doesn't talk about the concentration camps or the genocide that is going on in china. it is just -- everything is through the lens of racism. you have to give that up. you have to deal with the facts. racism doesn't mean anything any more. it doesn't mean anything to me any more when someone says someone else is a racist. so i mean i think this is a good day for america. i think with the continuing hearings on china people will recognize how dangerous china is to the united states. >> you know the downside is no libs of tiktok. and maybe that is why they want it gone. because the libs have done more to expose wokeism --

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the white house is acting more like hunter's defense attorney. questions are growing over what

biden did to security a million dollars in chinese cash. hunter admitted that he took the money after republicans made bank records public. that did not stop them from lying about it. >> house oversight says they have bank records showing a chinese energy company paying three biden family members through a third party. what were they paid for? >> i'm just not going to respond to that from here. look we heard from house republicans for years and years and years how the inaccuracies and lies. it has been lies for the past couple years and i'm not going to get into it from here. >> she is just not going to get into it, greg, but it's been years and years of the republicans lying. that comes as no surprise because biden staffers are

working as hunter's personal pr firm for a long time. newly released e-mails from 2015 show then vice president biden's office tried to kill a news story about hunter. so, greg, of their lies and trying to kill stories, i thought the white house didn't get involved? >> this is such torture. we find out that the hunter has a mole. he has five. but i mean his moles name is one eye. i mean what are you trying to do to us in? this is like you're writing the jokes for me but if i say them i'm going to get fired. i wish -- i'm so jealous. he is raising millions using his name as a way to introduce people. i want to do this with dana, you know? if you want to meet da na, i

need good faith seed money. but is this would make a grave di digger jealous. there is mulligans that we don't even talk about. the casual use of the n-word with the dealer. tells hi brother's widow to get an aids test. but you have to keep your eye on the prize and that is the corruption. it's a syndicate. he is the rainmaker for his dad. a crime syndicate, going on forever, and now we're seeing it. >> jesse, why does the white house think they can do this and get away with it knowing there is a money trail? that there is bank records and that this stuff is really, if you can finally get it, which we finally did, it is pretty clear. >> they think they can get away with it because there is only

one fox news. if deucy is the only one asking her the question she can skate. if everyone asks the bidens are toast. it's like jenga. how many things can you pull out and watch this thing still stand? it's unbelievable at this point. the binder is in a bind. if he says what hunter says, the chinese paid them, she is calling her boss a liar. if she says what her boss said, that it never happened, she is a liar so she just says nothing. then you have e-mails, a paper trail, that the biden communication shop is buries hunter biden stories forever. and now the guy has a one-eyes mole in the fbi. we call him the furry cyclops. and we use him, the guy that bribed him with an $85,000 diamond, to get out of the

country because the feds were coming. >> when you hear this kind of thing, dana, and the white house press office going as strong as she did. the lies, the republicans, all of that. they are -- don't they look -- yeah, that could be a problem. she was disciplined to say no comment. there's an investigation, call over there. i mentioned ian sams, the spokesperson at the white house council office now. and he has been blocking, tackling, and punching pretty sharply and landing some blows, sometimes, from the white house counsel's office. i don't know why she didn't just say call ian sam, you know his number. once you answer it at the podium you own it. you can't put the tooth paste back in the tube.

let's go back ten years ago. the staff of the vice president's office is in a position of having to take these calls. these calls come. it doesn't matter, go back, the reagan's dealt with this in terms of children that the -- the questions about relationships with their children. then you had george h.w. bush. neil bush. we had to ask about that. jimmy carter had a situation. the a situation with a relative and then their own situation. and it puts -- i think what happens in this case with this particular one is that the staff is in a very difficult position. president biden wants his son defended on some of these things his son does not deserve to be defended. if you look back to the e-mails in the obama white house where they were e-mailing saying guys, i don't think hunter -- and they're nervous about it. but the president has never given them an off ramp because he demands it to him and hunter.

>> what he is talking about is there is an e-mail where the president of rosemont seneca that is now defunct, she did everything she can to not use it and they're talking about kate bellingfield telling the bloomberg people. >> yeah, kate just left, she has been there for ages. and you could sense her frustration coming off of the page, right? this is not what i signed up for, right? i signed up to work with joe biden, everybody knows who he is. someone that has a long reputation as getting things done, and this is not her job. that's why they got ian sams to do this and i think that to go beyond what d.a. that was saying about how president biden wants his son defended, there is a

disconnect between how he -- voter -- democrats are not going to vote for him over this, but it's the gnawing things that bug you, right? why do i have to deal with this? why is there no cohesive narrative about it. erin burnett brought this up, if you're a layperson, and you look at this, it is kind of stinky. >> what would the narrative be? >> you can say that i never personally profited from this. it seems like there is a lot of inconsistencies for what the president has maintained.

they don't apply with each other. >> but it's not enough to say that i didn't personally profit if your family is profiting. >> we all know about nepotism, right? >> but this is saudi -- >> so what. i understand, i just agreed with everyone about bite dance and tiktok here, but to make it out as if this is the first family that has ever profited off of an autocracy that we despise is dishonest, so don't do that. they make money in china, saudi, and iraq. >> but there is no legitimate business. seed money and good faith, jesse. >> and you can get a meeting with dana -- >> but they should ask for the tax -- >> did they pay taxes?

that's where they get them. >> that's always where they get them. >> up next, striking teachers having a good old time and dancing in the rain after they keep half a million students out of school. ♪ good girl, i know you want ♪ ♪ i know you want it.

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cov covid cash. dana, where is all of this money for schools. >> i was thinking that governor n n newsome should worry about his own state. some of the children -- they love their teachers, we'll go help you, we'll be there. this is the greatest reason to have school choice because if you're a parent right now watching what is happening to your school system, knowing there is 4.6 billion of covid relief funds meant to go to schools not going there, i would be willing to give the support staff a raise, maybe they deserve it. let's talk about that, but to do this is really pouring salt in the wound to parents who have one, watched their children have a major learning loss from covid, and have to scramble to try to get care for their kids and they know their kids are not

going to school at a time when most urban centers don't have kids reading, writing, or doing math at grade level. >> the raise is part of this, and this is for support staff like bus drivers, teachers aids, they want a 30% increase and they already got a 23% increase. it feels like we should a solution. >> if they want more money, fund the student and not the school. when the money goes to the school we don't know where it goes. and the covid relief is a perfect example. it's time for tough love from schools. states are voting to fund the student instead of the school. that forces the schools to compete for that money. you said something about kids love their teachers, they used to, right? i bet everybody here could name their favorite teacher growing up. my second grade teacher, i could

probably go first through eighth grade, and everybody could do that. the unions did a rare thing is destroy the reputation of something really, really heroic. they turned it into a punch line. imagine if there was a national union of grandparents that were mean and scary. and they would go on strike and they -- it was like instead of being sweet and lovely, that's what this is. the teacher unions are the opposite of how you think teachers are. they seem angry, they seem like they're -- like they don't like you. like they don't like the kids. every time you see them on zoom they seem cynical. they sound like me. >> jesse, i'm consumed by the op op optics, i think you should stand in solidarity with bus drivers, but why dance? >> i think they can dance. because if they're going to play

music, and you're outside in the rain, and you have to give them credit for protesting in the rain, why shouldn't they be able to dance? are they just supposed to hold the stupid signs and walk around in a circle like idiots. that's the worst and that would not be good television. this is better television and if they want to feel alive and show their spirit and dance like that, that's fine. what i didn't like is the head of the teacher's union went to a clippers game. that i don't like. you should not be -- first if you're going to the clippers you have to be in the nose bleeds, not a suite. if the support staff are making $25,000 a year, and steph curry dropped 50 points so it was a great game, but it's not a good look. i'm fin with the decorum of the dancing, but not the in-suite action at the clippers game.

>> at least it was clippers and not lakers. what do you think? >> i think i disagree. i don't like the idea that the teachers, and there are 35,000 of them, protesting in solidarity. that means that the schools are closed because the teachers decided not to come in. the custodians, bus drivers, and other people are not coming in and if they want 30% instead of 23%, god bless them if they want to strike. this shows you more than anything about where the teachers hearts are. we talk about the fact that we have a favorite teacher. i want teachers to have a favorite class and favorite students. i don't want to hear that the historic lows in reading and math, and the president of the teacher's union you were just talking about, jesse says it doesn't matter if they don't know times tables, at least they learned about blm riots in 2020.

now we get reports that iqs are down in the last decade by 10% for the first time in decades, she says, the president of the teacher's union, says there's no such thing as learning loss. that's not too smart. part of the covid summon to address learning loss. it's to make sure that these kids can at least be addressed, or have addressed, their own academic losses. you have the mayor who is 400 miles away and gavin newson who is too quiet. they are a democrat funded organization and they gave their money to the democrats. who stands in solidarity with the kids. >> take the billion dollars that la spends on the homeless, take a little and give it to the custodians. >> i don't have problem with them getting more money.

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try to follow this liberal logic. politicians are blaming the cars. milwaukee, a carjacking capital, is trying to sue kia and honda for making their cars too easy to steal. they're saying it is well past time you acknowledge your company's role and take swift action to remedy it.

greg, this is pretty good. >> these cars are asking for it. going out like that. you're just begging to be assaulted and you're definitely not going out with your top down. but it is so funny. you notice that people jump to any defense other than admitting their own policies, based on these progressive ideas that are unfit for the real world have caused this and you're left with two crazy choices. you can drive yourself and possibly incur some property damage, theft, assault or you can take the subway and get attacked or see something that you will never unsee again. >> this is like blaming the gun, judge. >> exactly. it is not just -- they're not recognizing the policy is messed up. but it's like the gun. you're going to blame the cars for the people that steal them. there is no individual

responsibility. no one wants anyone to be responsible for what they do so let's blame the carmakers and the gunmakers. the gun went out by itself and shot a bunch of people. it's a total disavowal of what we recognize as individual personal responsibility and liability. it's over. >> so why are these cars so easy to jack? >> they are not equipped with a decent anti-theft system and the carmakers took responsibility for what they did. and basically the ignition similar works in such a way that you can override the key with a screw driver. we can all agree you should not have people stealing cars, and if your policies make that easier, that's a bad thing, but it can also be true, also -- dana, you can take us home,

then. >> i think we can blame china. this started on tiktok as a dare. so now we have 14-year-old kids, 13-year-old kids, saying i know how to use a screw driver to get into this car. then these kids get a record. the car companies said call us, we'll come back and fix this for you. the city, basically they don't want to put any more cops on the beat. they want someone else to pay for that. that is what the judge was saying. so i was going to say we should blame china for the theme of the day. >> in the old days you got the two wires and you put them together and it was called hot wiring. on every cop show, everyone knew how to hot wire a car. >> did you ever do it? >> yeah, basically a big wheel. >> this is base delay easy, though.

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>> get ready for professor hillary who will be co-teaching a course this year at columbia. it will be called "inside the situation room." >> you're running again? >> i sure am, karen. i just got here early for the new chance we're teaching on foreign policy decision making. >> classes don't start until september. >> but i wanted to be prepared. when it comes to crisis situations you always have to be prepared. >> prepared? i think you're more prepared than anyone to teach it. >> and i'll cover what it was like in the room for the iran raid, the gaza cease fire, you name it. >> are you ready for whatever questions the students throw at you? >> bring it on. >> do you think they will ask

what difference does this make, judge? >> i imagine no one will ask that because they will be so enamored by hillary clinton, a ht -- presidential candidate, a secretary of state, they won't consider that she flip-flopped on most issues, and whether it is iraq, middle east, transpacific partnership, she has been on every side of every issue so she is very experienced. >> they must have a lot of money because that was a highly produced video. they brought in the big lighting. >> a lot of production, bad acting, and that was stilted. even for hillary that was bad. why are they calling it "inside the situation room." the last time i saw her there, all of the guys were looking at the screen duringed raid and she was going -- that was a little embarrassing. >> why did they do that this? they just a v a lot of money? >> it's a big get for the

school. every university -- i was like do i have to fight you on this, too? everyone would want hillary to come teach a course and be part of it. she is, i understand i'm the only person at the table that feels this way, but she is completely iconic. she has a lot of important experience to share and even if you didn't like the way she was holding her hands when they took out bin laden. i heard her speak a number of times, and people line up to listen to henry kissinger, who has some big oopsies. shes on two sides of the transpacific partnership, who cares? >> do you think she invited a guest speaker that might trigger someone in the audience that she would defend the free speech rights that someone would disagree with. >> that's a tough question. can i pass on that one?

>> she could have saved that skit with one line, looked right at the camera and said epstein didn't kill himself. and then wink. what is she going to teach them by the way this is the other ladies for heaven lifting. . they watch the passive aggressive glares and interruptions between the two, it will be fantastic. >> hillary will make it look like a suicide. mark my words that woman is going to die. in a mysterious accident in the woods with jelly beans everywhere. >> okay, one more thing is up next. ♪

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go to fox news books.com to order your copy. also, my latest stawment of short questions with dana perino, i found the perfect foreclosure ask short questions to greg gutfeld. >> greg: god, i forgot i did that. judge? >> judge: time now for so, that's enough. scientists at mit twisted open more than 1,000 oreos in search for the perfect strategy of how to get vanilla eveningly on both chocolate waivers. the research found that after pulling the cookie apart. the filling inside sticks to one side about 80% of the time. and we have got oreos on set to conduct our own tests. you don't have to eat it. everybody take one. i am doing it first. i did a good job. no, let me see. not too bad.

dana, jessica? let's see it, greg? >> greg: you know when you pull them out slowly you can hear the scream. dana and jessica won. and that's the end of that. >> jesse: i was actually trying to do this to get it all on one side just so you know. >> greg: tonight, gutfeld, great show, charlie hurt, joe derosa, kat timpf, tyrus. going to be great. now it's time for. [whistle] this is a doozy softball, texas women. watch this i hate it when they edit it so short. thanks, good job, guys. so, let's redo this again it's a i made you look. too bad they didn't show her hit a home run but that's okay. why did that girl look?

jana walton, you are a legend. all right, jesse. let's go ellie and sofiay's volleyball match. greg is so upset. it's about timing. something you have got to build the suspense. >> jesse: look at this overhand smash serve for the win. celebration walk-off win. nice serve, elly. tonight, "jesse watters primetime" a teacher who quit violent classroom was just sick of getting staplers thrown at her head. should have only shown the ball at the end, jesse. you didn't need to see the whole thing. >> jesse: talk about it some more. >> jessica: denver family building home with incredible surprise. instead of tupperware or crock pot. find a slide to the basement. had the idea for the slide's installation which was expensive. $10,000. of the family said the slide is much more about fun than convenience although it certainly can account for both.

did you say v van cleve? >> by the way, do you know who has one of those under their desk? larry kudlow had to go straight to the cafeteria. >> jessica: no, he does not. >> greg: she says he does not. >> dana: i have seen him. >> greg: it's amazing. i can't believe you are doubting me. "special report" is up next. hey, gillian. >> gillian: hey, greg. how are you? nice to see you. >> greg: it's nice to see you. >> gillian: good evening. i'm gillian turner in for bret baier this evening. coming up u.s. military dominance could be in jeopardy with china now making a push for global supremacy and a war of words between new york district attorney alvin bragg and republican lawmakers as the hush money probe into president trump former president trump hits another delay. also the new york city mayor now is meeting with republican pushback over his proposal to send undocumented migrants to college in upstate new york an