>> it's been fun. [cheers and applause] >> you made a wall. >> yes, i made a wall. thank you for >> have a good weekend. >> dana: americans under attack. iranian drone strike killing a u.s. contractor in syria. good morning, asme owe dana perino. bill is off today. hi, john. thank you for being with me this week. >> john: it has been a pleasure. we made it to friday, too, also a good thing. this is "america's newsroom." that initial attack targeted a coalition base in northeastern syria. a self-destructing iranian drone like the kind being used in ukraine by russia crashed into the facility. the explosion killed one u.s. contractor and wounded another. five american troops were also

injured. >> dana: the u.s. responding with a series of precision air strikes in syria. the blast targeting an arms depot and port. eight iranian fighters were killed. >> bill: iran's -- this as u.s. foreign policy is put to the test on multiple fronts. >> the department remains vigilant against other persistent threats including iran, north korea and global activity groups. >> iran is improving its capabilities to produce a nuclear weapon. they continue to build its missile forces. iran could produce missile material for a nuclear weapon in less than two weeks and several more months to produce an actual nuclear weapon. >> john: we have reaction from nikki haley. first all ex ex andrea hoff has more information.

>> as soon as it was found to be from iran retaliation was authorized. the initial attack occurred yesterday afternoon at the coalition base in northeastern syria. u.s. contractor was killed after the suspected iranian drone struck into a maintenance facility there. you had five u.s. service members as well injured. four in total were evacuated. for hospitalized, treatment in iraq. of the retaliatory air strikes that followed lloyd austin said this last night. we'll always respond at a time and place of our choosing. no group will strike our troops. the syrian observatory for human rights reports eight iranian fighters were killed between two locations. according to general iranian-backed groups have been

behind several attacks since 2021. after yesterday he shared this. another in a series of attacks on our troops and partner forces. also we are postured for scalable options in the face of any additional iranian attacks. the general goes on to say and testified before congress saying that these certain drones iran is the most prolific provider of those in the region. >> john: they are being used by the russians in ukraine to devastating effect against ukraine forces. we'll see if there is any further u.s. reaction. thank you for kicking us off. >> dana: join me is nikki haley, presidential candidate and former u.n. ambassador to the united nations. some people might be surprised that americans are still in syria. you can address that but first could you talk about the biden administration response. do you think it was what you would expect or would you like to see something more aggressive before something like this happens? >> good morning, dana. i think this is a reminder of

two things. one, we live in a very dangerous world and you have a partnership with china, russia, and iran that is determined to continue to do more threats around the world. secondly, it shows what happens when there is american weakness. whether it's in afghanistan, whether you see it in ukraine, whether you see it on the southern border, you will continue to see more of these things happen. i'm glad we shot back. what did biden do last week? nothing. when you do nothing and show weakness in any area they will continue to do more. what we should have done with the drone last week is put a fighter jet up there to know we're not playing. put the naval fleet in the black sea. we shouldn't have pulled it out. we have to start showing american strength. i'm glad to see they struck back to show we were awake. but now we have to make sure we're standing strong and that's why it is so important to have

the back of ukraine because a win for russia is a win for china. they are very much having a plan to change the world order, to eliminate the west and take over. that's something we can never have happen. >> dana: can you talk a little bit about the tensions that are increasing between iran and israel, our ally, and the fact that what the administration reported this week out of the pentagon is that iran could be within two weeks of having a nuclear weapon. >> well, they are getting assistance from china and helping russia and ukraine. iran can do this. but the thing that stops iran is deterrence. there hasn't been any for a long time. there should have been deterrents. it is how we got out of afghanistan. when you look at ukraine, look how long it took biden to do something. when he finally did he has been weak and slow to the take. we need to show strength and get with our allies to show strength. it was an unbelievable thing to

see china brokered the deal saudi arabia and iran. we need to stay close to the iranian partners with the arab partners to keep iran from getting a bomb. israel is in jeopardy now and more concerned than ever seeing the deal with iran and saudi arabia wondering what's the u.s. going to do to help us. if israel makes a move, you can't blame them. >> dana: you wrote on monday that china wins if russia conquers ukraine and another possible presidential candidate ron desantis clarified some comments he made about ukraine with piers morgan. listen here. >> what is your view of putin? >> he has grand am bigss and hostile to the united states. the thing we've seen he doesn't have the conventional capability to realize his ambition. >> a move to hold him accountable for war crimes. would you support that? >> i think he is a war criminal. i think he should be held accountable. >> dana: what do you believe in terms of putin and the war criminal designation?

>> that weakened the knees mentality is exact will i what got us in the situation we're in with china. people saying they are fine, they can't do anything. we need to leave them alone and stay out of it. now look at what china is doing to us. buying up our farmland. we're seeing a chinese sky balloon and sending fentanyl across the border. they gave us covid. we continue to see one threat after the other. you can't have that kind of weak in the knees mentality when it comes to russia. russia is doing the dirty work for china and why they shot our u.s. drone down last week. after naming themselves unlimited partners this week, that's exactly the picture they wanted the world to see. the new axis of evil is china and russia. junior partner is iran and they'll continue going forward. you can't say we won't be strong for ukraine. if ukraine wins it sends a message to china, russia and iran. if ukraine loses you can bet

poland and the baltics are next and we look at a world war. it doesn't mean we put money in ukraine's pocket or troops on the ground but work with our allies to get them the ammunition they need to defeat russia. >> dana: one quick question because that might be one characterization of what was said or that approach. the american people in those polls we're seeing are in that category. that's where they are landing. how would you propose to persuade them otherwise as you continue with your candidate see. >> you remind them of the threats we're dealing with. when china and russia stood next to each other and said what great friends they were. when you got president xi on a hot mic saying we're changing the world for the first time in 100 years and doing it together, that means if you help putin or you back away from putin you back away from china. we have to wake up. i don't care what the polls said. they said the same thing about china and look at what we're dealing with now. we need to be smart, strategic

and prevent further wars coming forward. >> dana: thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you. >> dana: john. >> john: in a rare moment of bipartisanship of capitol the ceo of tiktok facing heat from both sides of the aisle during a tense hearing. they pressed him on security concerns and threats to mental health posed by tiktok with critics calling the testimony a disaster moment. grady trimble of fox business is live on capitol hill with the latest. i wouldn't want to be chew this morning. he has to be smarting from what happened yesterday. >> what is he doing as he wakes up this morning? it's safe to say, john, the chances of a tiktok ban grew as that hearing went on. i haven't seen one positive review of tiktok ceo's performance. he didn't calm lawmakers worries about tiktok's relationship with the chinese communist party. addictive nature or its ability to flag and remove harmful

content. he tried to sell them on what the company calls project texas to have an american third party oversee the app's data and algorithm. lawmakers accused him of dancing around their questions with one comparing him to fred as tear. the top democrat said by the end of the hearing he was more convinced than ever that the chinese communist party controls tiktok. a number of business leaders, including apple ceo tim cook are in beijing for a forum where they'll have the opportunity to meet with the heads of the ccp. the "wall street journal" reports american ceos plan to keep a low profile as tensions between the u.s. and china grow. and back on tiktok the company immediately going into cleanup mode after the hearing. they put out a statement saying that the day was filled with political grandstanding. john. >> john: grady trimble in the

halls of the russell building on capitol hill. appreciate it. thank you. i think there are probably consulting firms in d.c. and across the country that prepare people for congressional testimony to show their clients that tape and chew and say don't do that. >> dana: they would charge them a lot more. i pointed out on "the five" in 2019 tiktok spent $270,000 on lobbying, last year 5.3 million and it probably doubles if not triples after yesterday. >> john: what happens to chew after yesterday. a whip smart guy but they were united against him in ways i hadn't seen. >> agents with the f.b.i. hostage rescue team from virginia were conducting a hostage rescue when a shooting occurred. >> dana: dramatic hostage scene turns deadly in houston. f.b.i. agents rescued migrants

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we expect to continue that coordination. >> we previously heard this administration talk about the southern border and sending migrants back who don't apply

for asylum online beforehand. this is the same idea. border crossers caught within 14 days up north will be sent back. the new york immigration coalition is furious claiming this will endanger migrants' lives and add president biden cannot continue to shirk his responsibilities and take pages out of the xenophobic playbook and honor his promise to welcome asylum seekers with open arms. to see biden and trudeau doing this makes immigration policy seem kind of easy compared to what we've seen over the last couple years at the southern border. the southern border remains the big problem. officials that i talk to around here think they've seen improvements based on the moves the president made but we know they aren't getting all people or drugs coming across. we also know that the vice president's review into the root causes of migration continues. dana. >> dana: keep us posted as that

meeting gets underway today. thank you. >> john: the local representative for the border patrol council. this would appear a model of international cooperation which begs the question, if president biden can make a deal with canada of this scope and scale, why can't he do the same thing with mexico? >> well, we welcome any changes in policies that will help us effectively do our job and it appears to be headed in the right direction, but as we have seen for the last two years, this administration has said one thing and done another. under this administration, we've seen record numbers of apprehensions, record numbers of crossings, record numbers of

gotaways and nothing has changed yet. >> john: so here is what on that point, here is what the president said last june about the need to curb illegal immigration. listen here. >> president biden: including the united states, unlawful migration is not acceptable and we'll secure our borders, including through innovative, coordinated actions with our regional partners. >> john: we continue to go on to having a record-setting year in terms of illegal migration across the southern border. again, the thing that he is doing with trudeau in canada begs the question why is he willing to do this on the northern border? and these are very much the same people who are trying to come

across our southwest border but they come in as they please across the southern border putting your brothers and sisters down south at such a disadvantage. >> and you're right. it has been two years of this type of things happening with the administration not doing anything. and we'll see about this agreement. again, we welcome changes if it is going to be true changes. but we haven't seen this administration take anything seriously or allow us to effectively do our jobs. >> john: so everybody knows about the rio grande and el paso and laredo sector. we don't know much about the swanton sector in northeastern upstate new york and the border between vermont and canada and new hampshire and canada. it is bigger than what the map shows. it goes across three states

there. and the encounters have increased dramatically from october 1st to february 28, 2000, migrants apprehended crossing the border illegally compared to 200 over the same period last year. ten times increase. year-over-year up four times, 2022, 109,000 people. fiscal year 2021, 47,000. these are remote areas, small towns. what kind of impact is this having on the local communities? >> it's devastating the communities. we are releasing more and more people as these numbers continue to increase and this administration not doing anything to help anyone out, including these communities. we're releasing hundreds of people in these communities without any support from this administration. it is devastating and impacting the local communities'

resources. >> john: some immigration groups are in opposition with the new policy to canada cruel. people crossing the border in the snow is pretty difficult to get across, which is a greater cruelty. to allow them to keep going in the snow or send them back to canada? i grew up there. not a bad place. thanks for being with us. we appreciate it. >> dana: i always remember you grew up in canada. the "washington post" is now targeting iowa calling the new transgender laws in iowa make it the florida of the north and they do not mean it as a compliment. iowa governor reynolds will be here to respond. president biden's poll numbers scraping the bottom of the barrel. so how long before democrats decide if they can jump ship? >> administration is a manmade crisis. the crisis everywhere we look. everytime joe biden spends money we don't have on things we don't need we end up paying the bill

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>> john: a big blow to the president on the covid front. the fifth circuit court of appeals blocking the vaccine mandate. he issued the order in september of 2021. it required about 3 1/2 million federal workers to get the covid shot. mandate has been at the center of a year's long legal battle. the fifth circuit has struck it down ruling the order has no basis in the constitution. dana. >> dana: a new poll shows president biden's approval rating slipping to 38% near the lowest point of his presidency and doesn't bode well for democrats in 2024. let's bring in a scholar at the american enterprise institute and writes for the liberal patriot. great to have you on the show. noticed the morning the "new york post" headline biden irked by kamala harris not rising to occasion or taking anything off his plate and they source a former white house official.

what is the tension like and possibly holding back democrats? >> well, i think kamala harris is just widely disliked. people don't see her as being a super competent vice president, a big supporter for biden. they don't like -- when they see her she seems to indulge in canned rhetoric and i think to some extent for a lot of voters out there she represents a lot of things they don't like about the democratic party. the way i think about it is biden is sort of the designated normy of the democratic party and harris is more symbolizes the ways in which the democrats have evolved to be more of an elite party out of touch with working class voters. >> dana: this is the disapproval rating number for president biden at 51%. kamala harris it is at 53%. they're close there. i wonder if you think, a lot of people want to know. president biden has not announced yet for re-election.

when do you think he will and will it be a biden/harris ticket once again? >> well, yeah i'm not sure exactly when. my sense is it will be fairly soon. i would be totally shocked if biden did not announce. i would also be shocked if it wasn't a biden/harris ticket. even though i think there is a lot of rumblings about harris as a vice presidential candidate and not much help to the ticket, the amount of blowback that biden would get if he dropped harris as a black woman in favor of somebody else would just unleash the for -- fury within the democratic party. he has made recent moves to the center with the d.c. criminal code. that's something he probably wants to avoid and probably will avoid. you can make a reasonable argument who is better off doing it but i don't think he will do it. >> dana: one of the things you said this week to democrats who

think donald trump would be the best candidate for them to run against in 2024, you said they might want to be careful what they wish for. tell us more. >> absolutely. i think it's very clear and open secret the democrats are pulling for trump to be the nominee because they think it would be the easiest to beat of other available republican candidates. he has so much baggage and people have negative opinions and he beat him in 2020. all that is true but presumably people should be worried if they are anti-trump about another trump presidency because he is a bit unhinged, let's face it. he is not a good president. he does weird things. he is not only conservative he is very whacky. >> dana: his poll numbers continue to go up. >> it's not clear he is an automatic win for the democrats. he might be easier to beat than other candidates but still has a residue of extremely strong

working class support not among whites but non-whites as well. he would play well in certain areas of the country. it is not clear that a candidate as weak as biden is in some ways with low approval ratings and other problems would automatically be able to beat trump. if he can't automatically beat trump he could win. he could win and lord knows i think we don't need another trump presidency. >> dana: i know you have a book coming out in the fall and i hope we see you a lot between now and then and your take on the democrats is super interesting as we look at 2024. take care. >> john: a new debate is raging over safety in schools after two administrators were shot at a denver high school this week. some of the nation's largest school district are reconsidering whether to keep local police and resource officers on campus. garrett tenney is live in chicago with more. it ignited a big debate after

the shooting this week. >> denver's mayor said it was a mistake to take officers out of schools. in chicago around 40 high schools are deciding if that's what they want to do. chicago and denver like other large cities started removing school resource officers in 2020 following the death of george floyd. since then here in chicago around 30 high schools have voted to get rid of the officers all together and more than two dozen have voted to keep just one officer on campus. those decisions are made by committees of administrators, teachers, parents and students and many of the schools that have so far chosen to keep the sros are in some of the city's most violent neighborhoods. the issue is now coming up in the city's mayoral race. brandon johnson, teachers union organizer who advocated to defund the police wants to take cops out of the all city schools. paul vallas says having them there helps keep kids safe and

prevent mass shootings. those schools in some of the city's most violent areas that have chosen to keep officers on campus are getting pushback from progressive school board members who want to take that decision away from local commit eaves which include parents and get rid of the police and cps all together. >> john: there were a lot of parents at east high very upset the resource officers were taken out without consultation and the fact they had the pat down and searches without parents being notified. they will have that debate for a while in denver. >> dana: check this out. the sweet 16 at madison square garden last night. kansas state took on michigan state. wildcats faked out michigan state by arguing with his coach before a perfect pass. kansas city state won in overtime to advance to the elite

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>> so exhausted at the white folks in these pd sessions. this lady actually had the audacity to say black people can be racist, too. i had to stop the session and give karen the business. we aren't the majority. we don't have power. >> this is wildly inappropriate would you agree with that? >> i do agree that is not acceptable. it is not condoned by the

department of defense. >> john: that is a senior pentagon official reading a divisive tweet by the pentagon's diversity chief. it was unacceptable but said she was speaking in a personal capacity and the pentagon will not discipline her. >> dana: the world athletics council bans transgender women from competing in track and field competitions with biological woman and tighten restrictions on people born with differences in sex development such as intersex people. >> this change does a couple of things. first it will ban anyone who went through male puberty from female world racing competitions and second look at the testosterone levels of people born with sex differences cutting the amount of testosterone they can have in their system from 5 to 2.5 they

made this announcement just yesterday. >> to be eligible to compete in other events after that six-month period including the paris olympic games next year if and only if they maintain their testosterone at the required level. >> that will impact athletes like 800 meter champion -- she will have to go under hormone suppression treatment for a year. rights groups are saying it is discriminatory. world athletics consulted with athletes, coaches and u.n. expert as well. >> dana: alex hogan in london with that update. thank you. >> so you have been invited to speak here and i've been hassled non-stop. >> it is uncomfortable to say for many people here your work has caused harm.

has caused harm. i know that has to be uncomfortable and it must be. let me please finish. i want to give you space to finish your remarks. >> john: stanford university changing its tune after facing backlash for the verbal attack earlier this month. the law school's associate dean of diversity is placed on leave over the video showing her confronting a federal appointed judge during the campus event. the dean outlined the school's expectations for civil discourse and legal professionalism. the dean of the law school we're talking about. let's bring in shapiro, the director of constitutional studies at the manhattan institute. martinez is the dean of the school of law. she wrote our commitment to diversity and inclusion means we must protect the expression of all views. the first amendment does not give protestors a heckler veto. to the contrary, settled first

amendment law allows many governmental restrictions on heckling to preserving the interests in free speech. students pilloried her for the apology and now mandatory for all students in the law school to spend a half day in a seminar learning about the importance of freedom of speech and the norms of the legal profession. you think that's enough? >> well look, i hope that kind of training happens to all incoming first year law students. just as deans and university officials are very good at impugning the values of diversity and public service and whatever else they want to come -- get across, free speech norms and professional responsibility, civil discourse are very, very important particularly in a law school. the future leaders of our political and legal institutions. dean martinez's letter is remarkable. this hasn't happened. i've followed closely the

incidents in higher education and law schools in recent years. no dean has gone this far in defending free speech and saying indeed to do dei properly you have to defend free speech. i'm a little disconcerted that none of the disruptors of the judge will be disciplined at all or even warned. but we'll see going forward. it is a developing story certainly and we'll see as the dean of dei now suspended said whether the juice is worth the squeeze. the proof will be in the pudding going forward. >> john: as we watched the video that was steinbach who said that, the associate dean for diversity, equity and inclusion at stanford law. initially the judge didn't recognize her as an administrators because she piled on talking about how his presence was hurtful and is the juice worth the squeeze and what you have to say so important that we're risking this division

in the law school? but she now in a "wall street journal" op-ed says i was just engaging in de-escalation tactics. what do you say? >> if her tactics were de-escalation this "wall street journal" op-ed is a good way of trying to save her job meaning it is not. meaning that she just does not get it that what makes this incident much worse than anything else we've seen at yale, at hastings, my disruption a year ago at a different california law school and elsewhere is here we have not just the non-enforcement of policies against disruption but an administrative encouraging the mob saying it's a good thing what i'm seeing here and haranguing the judge. her whole about is the juice worth the squeeze? the presence of a federal judge whose opinions some of the students don't like, this is bizarre and i hope she gets what

she is due. >> john: she will have a lot of time to think about it while cooling her heels on leave. good to talk to you. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> we know that members of the communist chinese party can access americans' data right now. this app is a back door for beijing into our private lives, into our personal security and why we need to ban it. >> dana: lawmakers are trying to ban tiktok. young americans are still hooked and they are concerned possibly for their privacy. one tiktok influencer gives us her reason for staying on the platform. the heartland of america. we rely on hard work and honest manufacturing to deliver high quality, heirloom inspired bedding, bath towels and more, all made in the usa. experience the farm to home difference for yourself.

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10:30 to 6:30 in the morning. social media companies to give a parent or guardian access to their kids' accounts including all -- all the messages they send and receive. dana. >> dana: john, there is a bipartisan push against china-owned app tiktok. lawmakers made a case for banning the app over data collection and privacy concerns despite many young republicans still using it. house lawmakers peppering the tiktok ceo with spying allegations during a hearing yesterday. >> tiktok is a weapon by the chinese communist party to spy on you and manipulate what you see and exploit our future generation. you know you can't protect the data and security of this committee or the 150 million users of your app. it is an extension of the ccp. >> i have seen no evidence the chinese government has access to that data. they've never asked us and we

haven't provided it. >> i find that preposterous. >> dana: we just realized in the commercial break our guest had the same high school speech coach. wonderful to have you here, is bell. data that tiktok can collect from you. let's put it on the board. contacts, camera, key stroke patterns, private messages. does that concern you as a user? >> you know, dana, it is an important question and i think cyber question should be at the forefront of the minds of all of our lawmakers and policy instituteings in washington and around the country. when you look at this list, many of the things that people are most concerned about specifically require your permission to share that data. if you are paying attention, that data is specifically protected but beyond tiktok this is the same information that is shared when you open your phone through face i.d. or touch i.d. on your computer or sending

texts. cybersecurity is a bigger issue than this one app. i think lawmakers in washington seem to have honed in on the most popular social media app in america and around the world for a specific reason knowing that 150 million americans have direct access to information each and every day at the touch of their fingertips that can't be controlled or manipulated. >> dana: bytedance is a chinese company and they could at any time china under their laws can say give us all your information. that's one of the things lawmakers were bringing up yesterday. it is not lost on them that a lot of young people are using this app. listen to mike gallagher. >> they can control what news we get. tiktok is increasingly a news source for young americans. it can be used to meddle in future elections. do we want to give the chinese communist party that level of power over our sense of reality and our sense of national

identity? >> dana: your thoughts on that. >> it is certainly a valid concern. i find it interesting no one seems to bring up the scandal when meta sold our data to several chinese operators in the last several years and twitter was working with the f.b.i. to spy on american citizens. the communist party mines all the rare element resources involved in making all of our electronic devices and so many other countless examples. security is a paramount issue in the 21st century and particularly in the digital age. how much of this is truly about one app versus the content that is featured on that app? i for one choose to stay engaged on tiktok. 60% of the 150 million americans active on this app every month are people like myself born after 1997 looking for a new way for news, information dissemination. they aren't watching programs like this. instead we're scrolling through

short one-minute sound bites to get similar information. people in congress seem to be concerned that involves a barrage of woke far left politics and indoctrination opportunities from the authoritarian left but if we don't engage there with content that is based in truth and based in goodness, how can we win the culture? >> dana: that would be my last question. in true speech team spirit you answered it for me. isabell brown, i hope i see you again. thank you. heart breaking images as u.s. border agents discover a 1-year-old boy abandoned along the colorado river. smugglers took him across the border in arizona and left him to fend for himself along the water's edge. a quick response by customs and border patrol, tragedy was averted. i'm dana perino and bill is off today. good morning to you, john. >> john: good morning. they do amazing work down there the border patrol.