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harris faulkner. also joining us, lili gil valetta and richard fowler. the six victims of monday's shooting will be remembered today individual. a clear picture of their courage is emerging. head of school katherine koonce sprang into action when the shots first ring out. she was on a zoom call and she ran towards the shooter and sacrificed her own life by putting herself in the line of fire to protect her students. one of the young victims displayed bravery that defied her young age. at just 9 years old, evelyn dieckhaus was murdered as she attempted to save her classmates by trying to pull the fire alarm. police say the suspect was a former student who had detailed maps of the christian school. they say the shooting was targeted but it's not being investigated as a federal hate crime. senator josh hawley says that just doesn't make sense. >> police in nashville has said

this school was targeted. it wasn't random, wasn't happenstance. they were targeted. it's a federal hate crime. there should be a federal hate crime investigation. federal government should make all of its resources available. we need to prevent this from happening again and to do that we need to know how it happened now. we need to know the kind of hateful rhetoric that led to this. we need to know what the influences on the shooter were and we need to be clear about the truth, when you target christians, target religious believers, it is a hate crime. >> kayleigh: emily, katherine koonce and evelyn dieckhaus, cynthia peak, substitute teacher. mike hill, father of eight, grandfather of 14. he was "big mike" to his students, his family said and he took great pleasure and found tremendous joy in his job with the students. william kinney had an unflappable spirit, unfailingly kind, gentle, quick to laugh, always inclusive of others. he loved his sister, edward his parents.

and then of course hallie scruggs, the daughter of the pastor. greg laurie, well-known christian pastor wrote, and people are asking how can i make sense of this? what do i do? here's what he had to say. "let's all be praying for the scruggs family. they lost their beloved little girl, halle, in this act of pure evil. having lost a son i know they are an unimaginable pain right now. i know there are so many questions come after our son died, the pastor said to me "never trade what you do know for what you don't know and here is what we do know. god loves his family. lily hallie scruggs is in heaven right now. they will all be reunited one day. hallie is not just part of their past, she is part of their future. may god comfort this family as only he can do today." and let's pray for the other five families. >> emily: it calls to mind psalms.

there is no other source than god right now and the fact that all of them knew jesus before they died is the greatest comfort in this moment. my deepest prayers and condolences go to those families and i think about ordinary extraordinary. i think about ordinary men and women who in moments in split seconds of choices and decision-making exhibit extraordinary courage, extraordinary heroism. katherine koonce, as you detailed, and i'm so grateful that you did, katherine koonce prepared the school for active shooter training. she employed training for these children, their faculty and staff and without such they would not have deployed that in that moment. she undoubtedly saved countless lives. in a split second where she heard gunshots, she confronted the shooter. as evidenced by the way she was laying in the hallway, it was a confrontational moment. evelyn dieckhaus, little evelyn who pulled the fire alarm for save others.

we know that now officer collazo was a marine corps veteran. he had responded on the christmas bombings in 2020 in that same town. officer engelbert had just received an award for precision policing and we saw it demonstrated on their body cam footage so what an honor to see the best of us exhibited. ordinary and extraordinary in uniform and out. >> kayleigh: well said, beautifully said. richard, the doj has targeted 34 individuals were blocking access to abortion clinics. they put out a memo about radical traditional catholics and i think senator hawley has a point. you should be looking into this as a hate crime. i would assume so especially given that many of the prosecutions against christian individuals have been occluded in a court of law. >> richard: i agree with the senator that they should be prosecuted as a hate crime and i think now more than ever we should have tougher hate crime legislation. this is not the first time we have seen something like this happen because of somebody's race, sexual orientation, or religious beliefs. we saw it at the buffalo supermarket. beside happen in other places.

when were having conversations about hate crime, any crime, any mass shooting, we need to be figuring out how we get to the solution as quick as possible. i won't go as far as the senator. i think it's too early to jump to speculation. that happened on monday. we have to let the local law enforcement do their job and the federal law enforcement will see if a hate crime is prosecuted here but i hope the senator as well as any senator on capitol hill in congress would say what can we be doing to ensure we are prosecuting hate crimes more strongly? he was the only senator that voted against the bill to stop agent hate after covid-19. it was 94-1 with josh hawley being the one vote against it so for going to have a conversation about hate crime in this country should be bipartisan. >> kayleigh: president biden when he was asked if it will be looked into as a hate crime? >> my name is joe biden. >> nashville school shooting. do you believe christians were targeted? >> i have no idea. >> josh hawley believes they

were. what do you think? >> i have no idea. >> harris: it is so far from the course now and we know when he says oh, it's the truth. we know that that is a lie at that moment. it's either his memory failing or whatever. so when he says he's only joking, i don't believe them anymore. that is callous. what have i termed it? you can choose not to be the world's only living heart donor or you can choose to be that person. he is telling us what his choices in that moment and it's embarrassing. people on the world stage the hour president react what we know is unique to america. we know we have to deal with this problem. shootings at schools. we know that unfortunately we sit alone in this category with how many we have. as parents on this couch, it's intolerable. i loved what you said yesterday. as moms, there are things we can do. let's put some pressure on some of the school districts. let's show up at these meetings.

i got the calendar out last night. i know when mine are. i don't care if they move them, i'm going to keep following them. they do that. they change the dates a lot. we have to do what we can do but when i see the president, who is supposed to lead with condolences from his heart, to be the consoler-in-chief, fail time after time after time. i don't believe it's a joke or a mistake anymore. i think we are seeing somebody that maybe we didn't know existed. >> kayleigh: to that point, lili, the moment the president came out on monday i was waiting to hear what he would say. at the moment i happened to be in tears thinking about these victims. i was in a group text with moms, think about our kids and the loss of these families. i believe that moment in my life spoke for how americans generally were feeling and you saw the president come up when i saw a smiling face. i had it on mute and i turned up the volume and this is the first thing i heard as i was in pain along with the grieving nation. >> my name is joe biden.

[laughter] i am dr. jill biden's husband. and i eat ice cream, chocolate chip. i came down because i heard there was chocolate chip ice cream. by the way, i have a whole refrigerator full upstairs. do you think i'm kidding? i'm not. >> kayleigh: he went on to address the shooting, he did, just after that moment. but that just missed the mark. >> lili: it did, and like you, kayleigh, i was one of those moms. my son is in fourth grade like many of these little kids that were affected. in tears. they go to a christian school. our head of school was connected to the head of school that passed. it's not a moment to have that joke. be funny, try to connect with the audience at another time. but i think harris is spot on. it's the tone. the moment of connected empathy which is what we want in a moment of truth, moment of pain. we've seen in other instances in

our history. whether it was 9/11. here in new york, i felt it. you rise above politics. you lean into what we know, as emily said to welcome our faith, core values. that is what we have. when i see even in the press conference that that very day, some officials apologizing from that stage because they prayed. that's what we do in the south, that to me was very telling. why do we feel like we need to apologize about prayer? when we did it for demar hamlin and 32 teams prayed for him but when it's our kids, and all of a sudden it's not as welcoming or accepted? there is something off in the fabric of america and i think that's what we need to focus on. >> harris: unapologetic interfaith. i say constantly. >> richard: one thing i would add, will he talk about prayer we have to make sure, as my pastor used to teach me, you need some works included. so many school shootings, where are the works? when are we going to say it's

not acceptable in america? >> kayleigh: when were going to put politics aside and say let's secure our schools. >> harris: i am going to the board meeting. you told me. i'm there. >> kayleigh: coming up, selective outrage from the media blasting republican, spent for his christmas card last year. silence surrounding a tweet from the press secretary of arizona's democrat governor inciting violence hours after that nashville shooting. need to cut your monthly expenses and get cash? call newday and ask for the newday 100 cash out loan. our veterans are getting an average of $70,000. they're paying off their first high rate credit card, their second high rate credit card, their third, fourth and even fifth high rate credit card and saving hundreds every month. they're paying off their car loans, too, and putting extra cash in the bank for the security every veteran deserves. my a1c stayed here, it needed to be here.

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>> harris: media hypocrisy is on full display after the nashville shooting. liberals are going after republican commerce and andy ogles, who represents the district where the massacre happened, over a particular picture. it's his family from 2021, the

family christmas photo that shows his wife and children holding guns and smiling. well, that unleashed a barrage of headlines criticizing him. some even putting devastated" to imply t ogles, when he reacted o the shooting. there doesn't seem to be any liberal outrage over what the press secretary for arizona's democratic governor katie hobbs tweeted. josselyn berry shared an image of an armed woman alongside the caption "us when we see trans probes." >> kayleigh: where's the outrage? we hear from the left, as you heard, criticism. where's the outrage over this? where's the outrage over just two weeks ago when jane fonda on "the view" had i thought about murder when she was asked, what can we do to advance our pro-choice views other than march in protest. she came out to foxnews.com and said she was just kidding

but there isn't room for kidding here. think about what you were doing in the 12 hours after the shooting. talking to other moms, shedding tears, saying prayers. this person was tweeting a violent image, guns a blazing, about killing trans folds. what was she thinking question what do you lack human emotion is my question. someone who sinks to this level does not belong in communications at any level of politics and we don't know, she might have a tweet up because she put her profile on private and as of tuesday night that tweet was still there. >> harris: tweets never die we know that. we were talking off-camera about the problems with lighting politics seep into this. >> lili: here are the two things that play, the immediacy, the gut reaction. social media demonetizes good

and bad message equally in a blink. this lack of tolerance. we discuss "the wall street journal" reporting that patriotism and faith and tolerance was one of those things that has declined significantly. 80% of americans used to be tolerant and now 58% say tolerance is an important thing. you have that lack of tolerance combined with immediacy and accessibility of social media it gives permission for anyone to say anything about without measure. it changes the game, sadly, toward the bag. press people used it to have to have press releases approved by three, four people and there was a statement that had to get through a filter. now anyone can say instantly, and you cannot take it down because of in the public domain, good luck trying to erase it. this is hypocrisy and we have to do better. >> harris: how do we balance doing better, as lili is describing, and keep freedom

of -- free-speech. >> kay>> emily: we talked aboutw senator hawley was the only senator to vote against the anti-asian hate bill that you discussed and the reason he did so was because he felt in vastly encroached on our free speech rights. part of this hypocrisy -- >> harris: the way that it was written. >> richard: this is often the talk that you hear when they try to stiffen hate crime legislation. >> emily: on the contrary. >> richard: when the democrats and president biden tried to pass an antilynching bill. republicans, rand paul made the same argument, it encroaches on free speech. penalties we don't need 150 years after emmett till, we don't have an antilynching bill in this country. having this conversation but hate crimes, the most important thing we can do, the people that hate is happening too. christian, transgender, gay, lesbian, african american,

latino or latino. they need to be at the center of this when the bills are written. >> emily: on the contrary. instead of digging deep, why does encroached on the first amendment. just to let me finish, thanks so much. richard, just to let me finish. it doesn't mean that it's constitutional. that doesn't mean anything i'm saying, nor does it address what senator hawley said. during the pandemic it gave the government sweeping powers and sweeping authority which is something we should prohibit against. it shouldn't have to be a simple headline that someone can tote on the national show to say this is why we are good and you are bad. talk about centering those victims, that's what's being furthered by the hypocrisy of social media and the mainstream media for example the pulse shooting in orlando in which 49 people died. rightly so it was characterized as an anti-lgbtq hate crime as

an example of extreme islam terrorism, the pittsburgh synagogue shooting. 11 people. rightly so an example of anti-semitism. why is violence against christians however, why is it called the christian right persecution complex? >> richard: who is calling at that? i am not. >> emily: social media and media itself. >> richard: we are talking about hate crimes. >> emily: i'm going to finish my talking point. >> richard: a real conversation. >> emily: which is what i'm trying to have. >> harris: i don't want to cut off this conversation because i want you to be able to free flow for the rest of time but we have to. it's clearly evidence we are not where we need to be on this issue. we need to be able to talk about this and hear each other and not talk past. it's something that i want to see congress get into. it's got to have the fairness that emily is talking about. they were targeted. >> richard: there's no question about that. >> harris: right.

when the president jokes about it, just to get that to with the segment was about, the president jokes. it's a poor representation of all of us. that's what that is. all right, let's move on. coming up, a cohost for "the view" facing backlash for comparing american jails to china's brutal treatment of the uighur muslims. does the woman not read?

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they showed photos of the chains that shackled prisoners and how detainees could hear horrible screaming sounds of torture. "the view's cohost dismissed the horrors when she made this startling comparison between how u.s. and china handle its jailed populations. >> as a woman of color with a 6'2" black kid in college and a 5'7", 5'8" black kid in high school, i don't see that part of american exceptionalism, i'm sorry. i think this country has a lot of problems that could be solved. yes, maybe they are putting muslims in jail in afghanistan, china, they are putting more black people in jail here. >> emily: the problem with that comparison, someone who has spent hundreds of hours in federal and state prisons here in this country is that it ruins the light she was trying to shed on the incarcerated here in this country by making a ridiculous

comparison. there is nothing in this country regardless if the incarcerated system is absently broken and needs fixing but to compare the brutalization, systemic torture and extermination of the muslim uighurs there in china with the situation, it falls massively flat. >> richard: i hear that. i appreciate that statement i think to some extent you have to -- if you're going to condemn one thing you have to condemn all types of inhumanity and i'm glad you brought up what's actually happening in america's prison systems because it's a real problem that impacts people who look like me and people who have the same gender is me more than any other population in this country, through times more likely to be arrested, three times more likely to be in solitary confinement. i think it's possible that both conversations at the same time, how do we help the muslim uighurs in china and how do we reform our prison system so african american men are three

times more likely to be arrested? >> harris: i don't think that's the question. >> richard: that's my question. >> harris: i don't think we are invited to help the uighurs. we can't go to war on their territory. they are systematically taken a population of people. that seems to be and it would've been nice if sonny hoskins could've gotten the country right, she couldn't remember where it was happening. in this sense, there are ways we can help. we don't have to roll around in the pigs dirt with china every day. we do have some -- we don't have to let them fly their spy balloon across our country. we can decouple consciously, thank you very much, gwyneth paltrow, from china. we can fix prisons. >> richard: we could ban private prisons. >> harris: we can do both things at the same time but you can't rescue the uighurs the way you can rescue people imprisoned in this this country. >> richard: maybe we should rescue people in this country first if we can. i'm not saying that's the point she was trying to make but it's a valid point. you're right.

>> kayleigh: she was putting the united states of america on the same moral plateau as china who our own government has said is committing genocide, who the united nations that is committing crimes against humanity. this woman. since when is it okay to dismiss the genocide on a mainstream talk show? maybe she was just following whoopi goldberg who twice has made inaccurate comments about the holocaust. she apologized at least once for that but she dismissed genocide and let's be very clear what's happening. 1 million muslims in prison in china, many in concentration camps if it's found they have three or more children. the birth rate is down by 60%. china cuts uighur births with iuds, abortions, and sterilization. detainees had first they stripped off my clothing and tore out my earrings so my ears were bleeding. i didn't feel the pain, it was worse for an elderly woman. she kept falling to the ground. any woman under 40 was raped and that is the okay for tv portion

of what's happening. we can't show on tv is much worse. to equate our country with china committing genocide is reprehensible and you do not belong in a mainstream talk show in this country. >> emily: this kind of deep ignorance is not only given platform to this country but it's amplified so the pack of people are being tortured, exterminated, aborted systemically and it's a country we continue to do business with, that we are beholding to. there was a failure of responsibility by people to take account of the position they hold, social media and the mainstream media to further the truth rather than capitulate to it. >> lili: i will tell you why. the social equity of personalities is attached to how money likes and shares and posts that you have in the more sensational and juicy the headline, the better the engagement on your social platforms so was she chasing attention out of a gruesome and

inappropriate comparison of our great nation that yes, has many flaws, i agree. we have room for prison reform. yes, the facts are the facts. black men, black people are six times more incarcerated than white men. there is something. why is that? can we reconstruct it but don't compare us to the regime and the accrued murderous of china for the sake of attention. here we are talking about her, giving her airtime because it was juicy and sensational and i think the social fabric of what we apply as value and equity and what we say publicly is what causes people to try to make the most gruesome comparisons. >> kayleigh: get the country right. if you're going to talk about it. >> harris: i don't think she did it for clicks. i think she's ignorant. they are ignorant of the facts. what are you going to do? make that mistake over and over and over again?

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them opportunity. invest in ourselves. it's working. unfortunately extremes for 25 republicans, not all, but extreme maga republicans are threatening to undo this progress. putting our economy in jeopardy by refusing to pay america's bills. they want to see our clean energy future to china to make us dependent on overseas supplies and supply chains. export jobs overseas. i've got news for you. and for maga republicans in congress. not on my watch. not going to let them undo all the progress we've made. >> kayleigh: there doesn't seem to be much enthusiasm for a biden second term even among members of his own party. new poll shows only a quarter of democrats want him to run for reelection. 44% want him to step aside. richard, the g.o.p. is going to have a brutal primary. i have heard anecdotally, people will say i will never vote trump. i will never vote desantis. i say vote for the nominee but i worry about an enthusiasm problem on our site but it seems

on your side there may be an enthusiasm problem as well. 44% say no biden. >> richard: no sides here but i think you're right about the republican primary. the democratic primary. it's up to him to sell what he has accomplished. he got things done then what you wanted to get done. donald trump wanted so badly to get an infrastructure bill done and joe biden got it done and now in this moment what you want to see is more of the president. talking about his accomplishments to the american people and getting them to decide. >> kayleigh: he has undone energy independence. i don't think good for the oil and gas industry. to the point of strategy, it's an important one. listen to what jen psaki said she thinks the white house strategy should be or the campaign strategy. it sounds like the basement strategy. >> the contrast is a little bit inherent. they don't have to do anything right now except have joe biden

be president and go meet with foreign leaders and sign bills and host events at the white house. the other side is so cuckoo. in many ways, the crazy versus "this is way better and way more competence" is happening on its own which is part of the reason why he hasn't announced yet. >> harris: i didn't realize she was the person who is in her basement. i didn't know that. she serious about that? more competent? has she seen any of the last 24 hours since the school shooting? the responses from the president of the united states joking around. has she not paid attention to that? i don't think the 50 some percent who were against him running again would agree with her on the compliments resting with the side of the left. the other challenge here is that people don't feel those things that you want him to be on his 20 day tour talking about the economy. if they don't feel it, doesn't matter how much better he could

say it. how much more eloquently he could sell it. any of that, it's not about the messaging. it's about the message. it's not working in their lives. we still have inflation sitting at 6% or above on the longer it sits there the more those prices go up because nobody is doing well with still historically high -- >> richard: objectively i completely agree and i think with some of his -- >> harris: he doesn't have time. nor do we. >> richard: if you are on insulin you will not have to pay more than $35 a month. people paying $600, $700, $800 for insulin. >> harris: so you're trying to tell me that those people who are about to save, $565 a month don't know that already? if you need -- it's march. if you need insolent, you're going to tell me that you

haven't taken it since january. >> richard: my point is many of his accomplishments will take time to -- >> harris: you have revealed that prescription many times. >> kayleigh: the economy is abysmally low. jen psaki said if it's a reference on joe biden, we lose the midterms. 2024 will be a referendum on joe biden. we are relying on the strategy of "they are crazy, we are not," that's gonna fall woefully short. >> lili: the clever new tagline doesn't change the product and the integrity of what's inside. the american people, we are very sophisticated here talking about bills but they do measure it based on their own pocket and how it feels at home. are my kids safe and getting a good education? the voice of the people has spoken. i do data analytics and we analyzed 1.2 million digital discussions for the last 30 days

and the negative sentiment towards president biden amongst women is 49%, hispanic 43 -- 53% negative. black, 37% negative. that's not because of the bill. are they hoping for the best? is at the right tagline? that's how people feel organically every day and that is ultimately what's going to measure, who do you vote for? i think both sides need to be diligent in proving the substance of the promise with the work. >> kayleigh: republicans have to win back suburban women. they have lost suburban women but they have gained among working-class communities, latino and black voters. between 2012 and 2020 democrats father support among nonwhite working-class voters followed by 18 points and among hispanic voters by 16 points. white college educated voters shifted towards democrats by 16 points. both sides should know the

mission. >> emily: he doesn't have time, i will take it one step further. he doesn't have accomplishments and that's why we are seeing a shift. when you're gleaning analytics from americans, they speak from their heart. they speak from their wallets, the kitchen tables. we have never had a value of the dollar this low. we have never had such high death rates from fentanyl. we've never had such illegal immigration issues at the southern border. right? 38 died in a fire. there are so many troubling, horrific things are happening. under this administration's watch. what is so troubling to me is that we have the former press sector than calling this crazy, saying the words cuckoo, failing to discord on an actual policy level, tell me why i should vote democratic then. please don't call me crazy. that level of condescension, of elite, liberal overeducated white woman telling me how i should think and what i should do is exactly what got this administration into trouble.

when trump was on the ballots. i feel and fear or i guess i should hope that they haven't learned their lesson whatsoever because for all of us average americans earning a paycheck and paper my grocery bills and i see trouble and feel trouble all day every day no amount of platitudes or marketing slogans from this administration makes me feel better including biden who says we have an investment in durham, north carolina. 1800 jobs. $5 million. you know where that wasn't invested? every other democratic city because the businesses are fleeing from record crime under his watch. >> kayleigh: we have some news, hearkening back to the beginning of the show. governor katie hobbs press secretary, josselyn berry, has resigned, after she tweeted this hours after the nashville massacre. we covered it earlier. unarmed woman alongside the caption "us when we see transphobes." josselyn berry resigned after growing pressure. calling the dist suite disturbid

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local policies. nearly 40 illegal migrants died in mexico after they set fire at a detention center. the immigration crisis at a control. out of control. today is today federal workers have to take tiktok off their government phones. is it a full ban next? why are some democrats defending the chinese owned app? is the irs being weaponized in support of government censorship question what we will take that up with our economic panel. i'm john roberts. join sandra and me at the top of the hour for "america reports." >> emily: welcome back. local new york city official calling on the mets to rename citi field. an advocate saying in part "if citi field refuses to and their toxic relationship with the fossil fuel industry the mets should end their partnership with citi field. amazon sought to do that in

seattle. the arena was redone and they named it climate pledge arena and they did so to call attention to climate change on the questions are, does it work and is it simply performative? the same two questions. >> lili: it is performative. it's also not understanding the role that banks or a partner like citibank plays not just for the stadium itself. the millions of dollars that they do give to the city for financial literacy, community programs. there is so much more to these marketing relationships and just putting a label on the stadium. there is the whole infrastructure of support that a lot of these organizations do provide. changing the name, how much does that really help climate? how much does it hurt may be the funding of the programs that i am describing that citi is pledging for. it's misguided in its righteousness by calling out a bank when all other six major banks are also investing in oil.

why? we needed to run our economy. >> emily: instead of naming something performative we may be what would work is having an accurate conversation about how fossil fuels can be clean energy and how much important value it holds instead of a knee-jerk binary decision that's left people lesson educated. >> kayleigh: did you say it was called climate pledge arena? i will never call a stadium i go to "climate pledge arena." i hold citi field fondly in my heart. my husband played for the mets, he pitched in the world series. i hate when they change the names of sports stadium. we will never use the words climate pledge arena. >> emily: my problem with this is that it ignores a larger conversation, okay serve you're going to be holier-than-thou in this one element, why as we talk about the continued partnership as the nba closet with china

when we collect a capitulation. there are some of the more things that deserve attention. talk about it or let things go but to ignore the reality is for some type of performative activism is just ridiculous. >> harris: i think they are playing poke the bear. they want to figure out who is going to bend and where can we go next with our activism and get it under a big bright lights. who can we push? you mentioned the six other banks and their relationships with fossil fuels because we needed to run our economy. so maybe they hit those guys and they didn't answer their calls but they hit citi and apparently citi answer the calls and so they are poking the bear. the question becomes, like kayleigh says, i take my kids to the game, i don't want to have a discussion about climate change. i just want to go see the game. can i just go see the game? >> emily: right. most of us refer to our home stadiums as the old names that we grew up with. the oakland coliseum is always going to be the oakland coliseum to me.

it's knocking to be whatever iteration and certainly not climate pledge land. >> richard: i still call where the wizards play in d.c., verizon center even though it has another name. you bring up a good point about the fact that there are six banks and there's a lot of corporations that engage in bad behavior. what comes to mind automatically when you said that was was happening in east palestine. where was the kind ability from norfolk southern? we are going to have a conversation? >> harris: call pete buttigieg. >> richard: if we're going to have a conversation about corporate responsibility, it has to be across-the-board making sure your good stewards of the customers and the neighbors, whether it's citibank or anybody else. >> harris: transportation secretary. take it there. >> emily: until then, play good ball. more "outnumbered" after this.

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>> last but not least, if you want to see your favorite singer this summer you might be better off buying a ticket to europe. concert tickets have become so expensive it's cheaper to go there to see your favorites. >> i whole heartedly support this only if you are going anyway. i saw black eyed peace in brazil, whenever i'm living somewhere else or travelling, i like to see a concert there. i went to dublin to see the commitments reunion tour, it was amazing and worth it. >> i like that. >> two for one. great, a trip, a concert, save some money, have some fun. yes, tickets, flying tickets from new york are like 500, $600, and when you add up still cheaper than the thousands of dollars for taylor swift and others. two for one. >> i'm going to go see beyonce

at fedex field in d.c. >> i hope it's not climate project or whatever when you get there. >> i hear, richard and i were the only ones not dancing coming into the segment, i thought he could care less about this. >> i love that two for one, go to europe -- that's how expensive they are here. i'll just watch them on hulu or whatever. "america reports" now. >> sandra: fox news alert, vatican says pope francis is staying overnight in a rome hospital for previously scheduled tests. no details why he is not returning home at this time. >> john: he has suffered from health problems in recent years, including intestinal surgery. we'll bring you more information as we get it today. >> sandra: thinking and hoping for the best for him. another alert now, we are waiting a briefing from white

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