they went out to get trump. you know what will happen, they will get more of trump. >> that's all the time we have left this evening. thank you for being with us. thank you for making the show possible. set your dvr so you never, ever, ever miss an episode. let not your heart be troubled. stay tuned. laura ingraham is next. let's say hi to laura. say hi. >> you guys are having all the fun. all right. i'm going to try to pick it up where you left off. awesome job. this is the ingraham angle from washington tonight. my question, did anything big happen today? hunting trump, destroying america. that's the focus of tonight's angle. the left has wanted to put

donald trump in jail since 2015. today, democrats have gotten them closer to that goal. let's be very clear, the white house is the key player in the game of political vengeance. joe biden bears the ultimate responsibility for what this will do to america. our nation's chief executive has the inherent duty to do everything he or she can to preserve america's standing in the world as the world's leading democracy. that means whether through back channels or public speeches, biden should have made it clear that his party would oppose any local prosecutor who uses trumped up criminal charges to punish and humiliate a former president. of course, biden didn't do this. instead, he bowed to far left

which has been salivating over the prosecute of trump in a mugshot for years. >> a lot of democrats spouting off saying they think trump should go to jail. >> president trump could end up being prosecuted. >> once he become a civilian, donald trump may have to go to court and could go to jail. >> people who know donald trump's conduct have long said he belongs in jail. >> he could go to jail for up to four years. >> many on the left are gloating. they are not considering what this is going to do to our country. tens of millions of americans will come away from this saga with less faith in our justice system. they will believe if you hold one set of political views, you'll be targeted but if you hold another set, you'll be protected. americans will start believing that the principle of equal justice under the law is a joke because they're going to see the justice system as rigged.

america where prosecutors who wields enormous power are political hacks. alvin bragg is no different than the hosts. we all know if trump quietly retired from politics after the last election, he wouldn't be facing an indictment tonight. he wouldn't be facing any investigation in georgia or by a special prosecutor in d.c. either. going forward, when any american president or diplomat speaks out against the human civil rights abuses in russia or china, those countries are just going to respond with you're lecturing us. nice try, but your system is morally bankrupt. you did everything you could to put one of your own former presidents in prison right before one of your so-called elections. at that point, given what's happened, who could argue with that. the fact is democrats are doing what we have watched

dictatorships and banana republics do throughout history. they made a political decision to try to put their chief political nemesis in jail and they are indiets indicting him where he will likely get a fair trial. the federal election commission didn't pursue it either but on the cusp of what will be a fascinating gop primary, 18 months before the presidential election, suddenly there case is a priority on state level. interesting timing. this is a shameful day in the history of the country. this will poison our political landscape for years to come and the entire episode makes biden tou out to be a total liar. the self-proclaimed defenders of democracy have been proven themselves to be total frauds. in fact, they have proven themselves to be the ultimate election meddlers.

pursuing a specious criminal case against former president trump for one reason an one reason only because they're worried he might win again. when biden claimed he was concerned about losing democracy in the united states and he was going to protect it after the 2020 election, he was lying. he knew the democrat machine would do everything in its power to keep a populist conservative like trump away from the levers of power. after biden was elected, remember he said he told the world leaders that america is back. people thought this meant he was going to bring the country together, but that wasn't what he was intending. instead, he listened to the fringe. the far left who thinks biden's problem is he's too nice. they needed to pivot to being an administration of rage where

political opponents aren't just rivals, they're enemies. enemies to be punished by any means necessary. biden should have made it clear to merrick garland that they be fair. he could have insisted they enforce laws against protesting at homes of supreme court justices, spoken out against anti-christian hate. he could have said that if trump decides to run in 2024, i'll beat him the old fashioned way. i'll beat him on the issues because american doesn't jail political opponents. go back and read lincoln's second inaugural address in the midst of an actual bloody civil war. was the speak about putting robert e. lee and jefferson davis in jail? no. it was about reconciliation. no one is saying we should ignore serious political crimes.

unless there's some bombshell here that's been kept secret all this time, this case is an embarrassment of nothing. no one thinks trump committed a real crime. the people in new york who commit real crimes get off scot scot scot-fr scot-fre scot-free courtsey of the democrat party. they would rather spend the next year and a half of sowing division and hatred than selling solutions to all the problems that they created. they don't respect you. they think you're stupid. they want to eliminate your options at the ballot box by getting rid of trump, the ultimate in election taempmperi. they want you so distracted that

the u.s. under biden is spiraling down the drain. here is just a sampling of the stories today that they don't want to talk about. af after a transgender killed six, the white house said they are praying while joe biden said they are part of the fabric at america. at the border we saw a group of a thousand illegal immigrants rush across yesterday as dhs secretary says he's unaware that the cartel use situations like that to bring in guns, drugs and criminals. they did it. we have a reeling economy on multiple fronts. at china's direction the world is decoupling from the american dollar. the ramifications will be devastating for america if that continues. only 25% of democrats want him

to run again. his family can mick a fortune selling us out to china and anyone who drisagrees will be subject to the mob intimidation or jail time. as of today, tens of millions of our fellow americans will never be able to see him as a harsh, selfish partisan who only cares about keeping his grip on power. every single republican should be speaking out against bragg's prosecution act. the man said to be his chief rival stepped up. ron desantis said the weaponization to advance a political agenda turns the rule of law on its head. it's un-american. florida will not assist in the

extradition request given the questionable circumstances. perfect. bingo. what is happening here should be warning to desantis or anyone else who may get within striking distance of beating biden. they should all realize that they will become a target too. some prosecutors, somewhere will allege something. they fight dirty. these so-called champions of democracy. it's time for us to fight smart. that's the angle. joining us now is david shoen, former trump impeachment lawyer david, from a purely legal perspective, what is this case looking like? we don't have the actual indictment, but what if has led up to this is true, then we know what the contours will be.

>> we don't have the indictment. it's sealed still. i don't know why. it should be open already. we're not talk about a fugitive. it's a matter of great public interest. the record was falsified to conceal or commit another crime, absolutely absurd. it violates every prudential, policy of underlying the prosecution function. it goes against the aba standards on it. it goes against mr. comey statement. our judgment is no reasonable prosecutor would bring case. prosecutors necessarily weigh a number of factors before bringing charges. those are all the considerations

to be made. this harkens back to jerry n nadler saying we cannot trust the voters to get trump out of office. >> a washington post op-ed reads regardless of what people think about trump or the facts of the case, it's nod hard to see the problem. the process is controlled by democrats. every new york state judge is elected on participasan basis t. it would take a lot to ignore their voters desire for vengeance. >> do you really want a crazy prosecutor, do the democrats want a whacko trump prosecutor to be bringing an indictment

against joe biden or whoever his successor is? we can't have something like this. bringing case against a former president of the united states, you better have a strong legal case. strong not only legally but in terms of is this the kind of case that we would ever want to bring? as so many people have said, it's just not here. unless there's a big surprise awaiting us. these people made everybody think there wasn't go to be an indictment this week. that was obviously misdirection. now it looks like the indictment won't be unsealed until tuesday. maybe there's a surprise waiting there. based on everything we heard, i'm going to tell you, i look at this as a federal defense attorney, but this is white collar type case. i look at this and see something

as dubious legally, doubt it will hold up. a prosecutor is not supposed to bring case just because he or she can. >> david, the fact that saul mentioned, it seems to be some games being played. the kind of gotcha moment. we tricked you. we made you think it wasn't coming out and we skipped out of town because of whatever. they want to keep the drama going. doesn't that speak to the political nature of this. >> remember, it's funny you should say that. i've pulled a number of bragg quotes when he ran for the district attorney. it was all about trump. how he is the strongest against trump. that raises ethical problems for mr. bragg. this case is prudentially wrong but think about the evidence. there could be surprises.

maybe mr. pecker said something to help them. think about what bob costello did. he spoke to bob costello as his lawyer. according to mr. costello he said that cohen assured him that trump knew nothing about the stormy daniels payment or the mcdugall payment. he quoted cohen saying there was nothing on trump about the mcdugal thing or the stormy daniels thing. where is the u.s. attorney office notes? they knew all these things. this all just came out. how do you come out with an indictment now and consider it to be a full investigation. >> yeah.

it leaves me to believe maybe at the 11th hour they got something from the former national inquirer chief. as we noted, we don't know what's in this indictment, which is part of this game, i think. cnn claims to be on the receiving end of a leak. watch this. >> i'm told by my sources this is 24 counts of falsification of business records which is probably a lot of charges involving each document, everything thing submitted as a separate count in a couple of matter. >> doesn't it sound like, well, he was trying to sell document dos a foreign add versary. just this rank speculation that it sounds really bad. like 34 counts. you can write a 34-count indictment that's a bunch of crap. that's done all the time. >> there's u.s. attorney offices

that love to write 99-indictment count charges. >> that's true. >> people are going on other networks and saying things contradictory to what we are saying this is charged all the time. it's very important your viewers know this particular application that they are talking about charging has never been tried in a court of law in new york. they are taking a misdemeanor and boot strapping it into a felony. that's never been tried before. that changes the statute of limitations. it allows them to bring it but keep in mind, that as you noted earlier in the angle, the federal goth -- government found there wasn't enough to indict.

that causes me to say it's never been done and it's dubious, legally. i believe it will ultimately be thrown out. three, it's so unprudential. it's so opposite of what a public ser vvant and a real non-partisan or even a partisan prosecutor who knows his job should do. it sets a bad precedent. >> the novel application of legal statute is bad enough in cases where the facts are dubious, but then the novel application of a criminal statute against a former president in a controversial or hot election cycle, that takes us to a whole new level. cnn says 34 counts but msnbc is always trying to one up the

are some. >> first we'll go to you. trump was already the prohibitive favorite. it's early. does this end up helping him in the near term? >> i think without a doubt. even democrats own voters are over covid. democrats had to come up with a new way to steal another election. this is what they are doing right now. they are attempting to to eliminate trump from the pool because i think they genfear he will get the nomination and win re-election. they are ensuring he gets the nomination. beyond that, they are ensuring that he will win because people

see this unfair. they see this as crooked and corrupt. when you look around politics, you see people like the biden family and you see hillary clinton who have committed crimes that any ordinary american would go to jail for the rest of their lives for. then democrats turn around and charge a political opponent with crimes no ordinary american would ever be charged for with the only goal of trying to levee political retribution against them. >> molly, my warning in the angle to every republican out there is if you think this is generous to donald trump, this is about him, people don't like donald trump or he's a threat, this is about real justice and it's also about intimidating any political opponent to the liberal status quo. do you agree with me on that? that's why perhaps we saw desantis and mccarthy and all

these people come out. they recognize that. >> i think every one does recognize that. it's a very sad day. one of the things that we used to be able to do in this country was have political differences would you tell us criminalizing those differences. it is true it was trump who managed to change this in that the last six years this country has gone through because the powerful elites have been unable to accept the results and they have been increasingly crazed in what they are willing to do to prevent further elections that they do not want they are willing to destroy the country because of their hatred to this person. it's about anyone who threatens their hopower. anyone who doesn't follow what they want in terms of where wars

need to be started or dedrcreasg regulations. this is a very bad precedent. it's unprecedented in this country. it's not unprecedented in other countries. they would just decide who the person was they wanted to take out an invent a crime. it's what you see in banana republics. there's really no option not just for republicans but anyone who cares about this country to speak against it. >> you have written extensively about hunter biden and the enrichment of the biden family courtesy of china and other foreign countries. they seem to skate accountability, at least up till now. that two tiered system of justice that we're seeing play out in this country, that's so damaging to the fabric of our

entire democratic system. this from the defenders of democracy who put grandma in jail who walked through taking selfies on january 6th. >> yes, i think that may be part of the strategy from the democrats because they know that the republican house is closing in on the biden family corruption. they have already just, in their first trench of financial documents that they've released come very close to the heart of the money trail that leads to joe biden. what will happen is with muddying up donald trump with the numerous flimsy cases they have against him and causing a big fuss and making the entire media concentrate yet again on donald trump, which is like crack cocaine to the ailing cnn

and msnbc and the new york times. it's really good for them. it will make them a lot of money, but it also distracts from joe biden's problems both as a completely incompetent commander in chief but also his corruption problems coming back to haunt him. it will be viewed now as a tit for tat. some sort of vengeance for what's happened to donald trump. this is all very good for the democrats. they want to sort of usher donald trump into the gop nomination as an injured party and every decent patriot in the country will rally around because you don't want the evil

doers to win. i think it makes him very damaged goods for the general election. >> they want to pick the gop nominee, that's for sure. if it's trump, they are really afraid of him so they want to hu hurt him as much as possible. charlie, a survey found 62% of voters believe that bragg's case against trump is motivated by politics. that includes nearly 30% of democrats. 70% of independents, but there's some people on the other networks saying this is definitely bad for trump politically. i'm not so sure ant that. i see miranda's point but i think they are way too giddy tonight about what's happening. >> in the primary it only makes him stronger.

the consensus from grass roots conservative voters is you'll have to go through us if you're going to continue to go after donald trump. he's become a symbol for the disaffected man an woman forgotten in america. i don't think we should just forget about revenge. in 2016, in that very district, in new york, that's where hillary clinton received the news she was not going to be president. these people are petty. they are pathological. they are personal about their hatred of donald trump. i've never seen anything like it. laura, i think you would agree, it makes people do wacky and weird things. it seems there's this blood thirsty appetite and desire to get trump. does it backfire? i don't know. does it help politically in the primary? almost certainly. it will be interesting whether or not independents and

moderates will say i might not like donald trump but the justice is too much for me. donald trump will be in a much better spot in the republican nomination. this is a terrible day for our country. >> you're right. it's like stalin's purges. panel, stay with us. what will the arrangement process look like? the visuals are almost too absurd to imagine. as the new york times states, he'll be finger printed, photographed. he may have been handcuffed. most defendants have their hands cuffed behind their back but some white collar defendants who are deemed less a danger have their hands in front of them. they loved writing every line of that at the new york times. joining me former prosecutor, fbi significant director. chris, what other color can you add about this most absurd and infuriating and outrage out moment in american history? >> first, i want to weigh in, david and saul, were absolutely

correct. this is an unethical prosecution. i think this attorney will be defending his law license by the time the case is over. the arrangement, i think the district attorney is going to try go for that dramatic moment where he gets handcuffed. i don't think it will happen. i think the judge will intervene. trump's lawyers will intervene with motions. there's no reason to jail him. it's a no cash bail situation to begin with as it is with every other violent crime in the state of new york or in that jurisdiction. i think it's going be low key. i think he will turn himself in, of course. the arrangement will be him standing at table just like any other arraignment unhandcuffed. >> i think donald trump, perhaps, wants some of that, the

color of the prosecution just to reaffirm to the american public that this is what they're doing to their political opponents. this is what we expect from putin or xi or maybe in central america or south mamerican country. we do not expect this in the united states of america. it's disgraceful and jibes with what they have done with their two tier justice. we read some of the earlier comments from governor desantis. he said florida will not assist in an extradition request. chris, as i understand it, the former president is not planning to fight extradition. i think that would be ridiculous if he did. in hypothetical situation, what would happen next? >> as you say, i don't think president trump is going to fight extradition. i think he will show up. he spends as much time in new york as he does down in florida.

i don't think that's going be an issue. i think governor desantis is just trying to score some points there. i will say this, this case is based on a witness who is a bigger liar than alex murdock. there's so much exculpatory evidence. i was reading up on this. in new york there's a duty to disclose exculpatory information to the grand jury. there's also cannons around frivolous prosecutions. this is an unethical prosecution to start with. if he were to fight extradition, he would every basis to do so. >> i think the professional code of responsibility in new york, i think bragg will have a lot to answer for. he should be sanctions. i agree, if this looks like what it looks like right now, he should lose his law license. chris, thank you. statement from manhattan da's office reads as follows. this evening we contacted mr.

trump's attorney to coordinate his surrender to the manhattan da's office for arraignment on the supreme court indictment which remains under seal. joining us florida congressman, matt gaetz. you faced unfair prosecution by our powers that be but bragg just indicted a former president for the first time in our history and yet, they don't have to tell the american public right now why, for a few days. just to keep the drama going, i guess. your reaction to just that a pek aspect of it. >> it seems to leverave the nat on edge opinion. remember soros gave alvin bragg a million dollars. we're used to seeing these things. government printing money till it goes out of style in third

world countries and that's being visited on the united states of america. i spoke with president trump moments ago and he's resolute and concerned what this does to america's branz around the world. we will wake up in a very different america because we can no longer have moral authority against the dictators who would always find it easier to jail their political rivals than to compete against them in free and fair elections. i remember my democrat colleagues about comey making derogatory comments about clinton before the election. this must ring a thousands times louder to them. i believe there's federal equities at play that the united states congress about to evaluate. >> congressman, do you agree with what i said in the angle that if biden and the white house didn't want this to go

forward, it wouldn't have gone forward. it would have been a back challenge communication or a public speech about how we have to set aside our differences and may the best man or woman win in 2024. we have to unite the country. don't prosecute your political opponents. we got to put that away, that concept away. it would have been smart, politically, for him. he didn't do that. they are approving this. they will say they're not but they are approving this entire thing. >> not only did joe biden not put out a message to bring the temperature down, he functionally gas lit the indictment by saying that extreme maga republicans were dangerous. remember it's biden's government that we are currently investigating for super charging the notion of domestic violent extremism. we found cases of the fbi cooking the books to try to get thinking every american with a

pro-trump dumper sticker is dangerous or evil. it created a permission structure not only for alvin bragg but the corrupt left leaning prosecutor in fulton county and special counsel to try to lash together anything. this is a novel legal theory. you're dtalking about a misdemeanor that has to get boot strapped onto election law in way i've never seen before. alvin bragg made this compromise. he told new york voters that he sued trump a hundred times and if he got in that position he could continue this terrible witch hunt. >> he's a total hack. anyone who is a serious person knows this is political. michael cohen's attorney, yes he has an attorney, think the prosecutors have a lot to work with. >> there are lots of facts, lots of documents, lots of evidence of multiple crimes. it will be a lot of people surprised at the level of evidence that the detail of

evidence based on my experience and watching this group of prosecutors develop this case. >> congressman, in essence allowed to pedal propaganda before the public knows what trump is facing here. it's almost like they are trying to incite some type of bad reaction on the part of the american people by kind of drad dragging this out. i don't like this. we support peaceful protests and people will protest this and go at it. wii not violent people. we go to court to get our results if we have to. that's what donald trump is going to do. >> we don't want to resolve differences through violence but the chinese communist party can pay every grifter but donald trump can't pay stormy daniels without a legal dispute. there's a legal element that's not met by any evidence.

they would have to prove that donald trump would have no reason other than the election to try to resolve this issue with stormy daniels privately and outside of the spublic sphere. i think a motion to dismiss will happen next. if this were ever to be tried, you could not do it in manhattan. you would see a change of venue with upstate new york. maybe it's the only place donald trump could get a fair trial. i expect this will be resolved well before that by any court that looks at the way that the law is being tortured in the absence of any charge that would be maintainable against any human being on the planet earth other than donald trump and against trump it's clearly political. that's why you're able to cite the evidence showing margin of two to one the american people see this is not based in the law or the facts but raw, ugly politics. >> you have more faith in the

judges in new york than i do. i don't have any faith in these judges in new york. maybe i've just seen too much in my day. we appreciate it. thank you very much. i know you've been woenderig what biden and his white house have to say about everything that happened today. for that we go fox white house correspondent. i bumped into him in the hallway yesterday. kevin. >> it's great to see you. there's clinks of champagne glasses but publicly not a peep from the white house on the indictment of the president's chief political opponent. that being former president trump. sources have predicted the white house would want the steer clear of any on the record statement less they be considered tipping the scales of justice or being accused of attempting to influence the process. however, critics are arguing this is precisely when the white house should weigh in on what legal scholars are calling alvin bragg's unprecedented abuse of power and the upheaval of

american jurisprudence. the slippery slope pandora's box possibility. states along the southern border and how da's might view a chance to haul federal officials into court especially those who they argue are failing to protect this nation's citizens. now, regardless of your political leaning, critics argue that we are being tested in the very crucible of war. a war of and against, perhaps, our values in history and where we go from here is anyone's guess tonight. laura. >> kevin, thank you. great the see you. i want to bring back our political panel. charlie, i want to go back to you on this.

what do you make of this idea that the democrats are playing three steps ahead, and they believe that propping up trump is smart for them and turning him into this martyr because he will be easier to beat in a general election if they can say you're pushing a candidate who committed a crime and is under all these investigations. we're pushing man who doing his best for the american people selflessly. >> nobody ever went broke over estimating the cynicism of democrats in washington. you're probably right about that. they probably are thinking three steps ahead. the other side of it is that donald trump has been such a threat to them and such a threat to their existence and the

perm perm permanent governing stats of washington that they have really lost their minds

>> i think that part of the democrats plan is to get trump off course too. obviously, he's going to have to spend time on this case. instead of every minute he has to spend on this case is a

minute he's not focusing on everything biden and his team have done to destroy this country, we love. that's where we're going to win this election. if you're a republican, you will win the election on your economy, number one. number two on our disasterous foreign policy. charlie, cnn ran to a will the of wisdom tonight especially from adam schiff. watch. >> what we have seen with donald trump is when ever he's allowed to escape accountablility he ha worse and worse conduct. he would begin at the point of an insurrection and it could descends from there. that could with a catastrophic choice. >> charlie, if the country would entertain, see the disdain he has for the american people. he wants to incite trump and his

people and his supporters to i don't know what. >> there might not be the strategy but it's an element which is you look at how they are talking. they are almost trying to incite the community to act uncharacteristics. don't fall for it. don't take the bait or the trap. the national security state the regime, they would love nothing more than for pockets of people to just act and outrage your fear or rage. what's happening here is a banana republic but turn the entire country into a banana republic is if small handfuls of people act as mad as they are. they say see that's why we need a patriot act 2.0.

>> excellent point. an andrew weissman revealed what this is all about. >> there were substantial evidence of obstruction of justice that was amassed by the mueller probe. this is the first step in terms of criminal accountability. it's really a testament to the american criminal justice system and the rule of law. >> he's admitting this is revenge since the mueller probe failed or what. what is he getting at there? >> that's what it looks like. the sheer arrogance of these people to tie up donald trump's despite their best efforts in the russia collusion hoax. i think that was due in large part to devin nunes and those

sort of patriotic people and smart people who manage to uncover the subterfuge behind the democrat's plot to bring down trump. they haven't given up. the rest of us think we have put that to bed. they will keep on. it's the vampire that will not die and i think what they are hoping is they can provoke another january 6th. that is to muddy up donald trump and his supporters. i think they -- yeah. >> i'm sorry.

i didn't mean to interrupt. i just want to emphasize this point. i think all of us, tonight, agree with this. the effort here is to perhaps, further kind of alienate maybe suburban women and independent voters from what they see as discomfort with some pockets of conservativism. they know they are getting poorer. no one wants to lose money. most everybody is losing money. they want them to put aside their financial and economic interest and go do the ick factor again. this is january 6th again. i do think, miranda, charlie, you're all right about this. that's a big part of what's going on now. do not fall for it. no one should fall for what they are doing. >> that's exactly right. >> think about the big lie of the 2020 election was. the promise was that joe biden was going to unify the country and it was the make it stop election. it was so crazy.

that four years was so insane and democrat and joe biden promise elect me and i'll make the noise stop. what's happened since joe biden got into the white house. the insanity has gone from 10 to 18. there's not even number on the nob for the insanity that's happened since then. it's all a giant lie. i guess i just sort of can't help but have some faith in the american people at every turn. partly, because we don't have any other choice but to appeal to american voters that this is all bs. it's a giant lie. the 2020 election was a massive lie. joe biden's election was a massive lie and what actually does matter, all things that joe biden and democrats have done to destroy our country and independent, destroy our economy, all those things can be fixed again, but you have to get rid of these people. if it takes going back to donald

trump, that would be fantastic. at some point people realize that the alternative is that horrible. >> republicans can't lose the next election. if they lose the election with how bad things are in the country, it's like the republicans should start a different part ore sy or someth. that is inconceivable to me. >> that is their agenda for america. it's not raising our standard of living. watch this commentator. >> this case could not only be first of several cases but in some ways it breaks the ice. it makes it sort of less dramatic. some extent take some of the pressure off of bragg. >> it breaks the ice for the other prosecutors because that's what prosecutors are supposed to do, follow each other and try to out compete each other. they have no clue about what the

system of justice is supposed to be based on, the rule of law, precedent. there is nothing here. >> all of these investigations are political. it's not just bragg's. it's also what's happening in ga wit -- georgia with one of the most political prosecutors around which in this country you have a right to care about elections a how they are administered. you have a right to file lawsuits about that. this something, every one now realizes how political the classified document case is because they saw it blow up with joe biden, having classified documents everywhere across the eastern seaboard. they are all political and all wrong. the two standard of justice are made worse by the fact we have a media complex that engages mostly in propaganda. there are a few shows here. tlp are a few media outlets that do a good job of accurately portraying what's going on. lot of americans are misinformed

through one sided kbleed and propaganda that failed to explain the significance. that will be a real issue. i understand what you're saying about the republican party, if they can't win in this environment, when can they. we forget how much it can harm lek l elections and how much they cover up she nanigans and problems. >> look at what they did on covid. look at what they did with mueller. trump was a russian agent by time they got through with it. covid was the worst thing ever. every one has to rush to get back and stay six feet away and leave the elderly alone. they lied and lied and lied. people are still wearing masks in their cars. this is extremely powerful. there needs to be a lot more voices to counter this.

people have to be unafraid. you guys were courageous. great to see you. you heard the panel mention that the left is warning we could see another january 6th moment as people react to this build up of the trump indictment. >> the intelligence bureau will be looking at social media to see what's gathering any kind of numbers around demonstrations that people say they are going to attend. they will be looking at groups because we learn lessons from january 6th. groups like the proud boys. >> he also wants to see his supporters out there. that calls for concern that he was going to have something that resembled a january 6th moment on capitol hill. >> joining me now, julie kelly, senior contributor to american greatness. julie, on the day that the

january 6th narrative blew up, they still are hoping, they are hoping for a january 6th style image that they can use to help every one forget how bad this economy is. >> they really are. the flip side of what's happening to donald trump is the criminalization of political dissent. you have more than a thousands americans who have already been criminally charged based on their involvement in january 6th and you have the u.s. attorney for the district of columbia threatening to arrest a thousands more individuals. this is an ongoing legal crusade against political dissent, against trump supporters. they are trying to escalate this into more political division, into very dangerous territory and it's only a matter of time

before trump is indicted for what the investigation in georgia but certainly merrick garland's hand picked special secret prosecutor, jack smith who is investigating january 6th and the handling of classified documents investigating donald if you started to see a domino effect to try to completely overwhelm him and his team. i don't put anything past these people. i think julie have seen it all in her coverage of the january cases and now this. >> you're absolutely right. this is an attempt to pick the next president, to stop the american people from getting their choice. would donald trump win the

primary without this? maybe he would, maybe he wouldn't. maybe he would win the general. the democrats want to take that out of the hands of the normal americans an misusing the legal process to do it. i'm a lawyer. you're a lawyer. i look at this. it's nonsense. what is your legal opinion of it. i don't have a legal opinion. this isn't a legal action. it's ridiculous. it's pure political power and we republicans better get in the game and we better start dealing it back. >> merrick garland, he made a big point of saying that white supremacists were the biggest threat to america's domestic tranquility and the rule of law. we have seen attacks against churches and pro-life centers. we have seen this trans killer targeting a christian school. we'll learn more about that as time goes on. we haven't heard anything about the hate crimes that are clearly going on christian people and

the elevated rhetoric against parents and parental rights. what of that? >> it is an all out legal and political assault on the right. that's what i talk about in my book. january 6th has been the pre-text for all of that. it has a lot of different angles to it. we do need, i know we have talked about this. the republicans really need to get on the offensive here. they were slow in talking about the political prisoners. they were slow in talking about this political prosecution. you have new individuals who have just been arrested this week, laura, by the department of justice for minor involvements in the events of january 6th. this is a full on coordinated assault on the political right to suppress our vote in 2024 to scare trump voters and republican voters. >> yeah, don't gather anymore.

sorry, i didn't mean to cut you off. don't gather, don't post online because the fbi is looking and snooping in communications. ron desantis should think he's being watched. mike pompeo, everybody is probably being watched because they might be the nominee. who knows what's going to happen. kurt, do you agree that every republican, tonight, who is thinking of running for office or running for the presidency, it's open season with anyone who disagrees with their dominant, leftist, social service, period, end of story. it's a total war. >> it is. i think ron desantis gave a strong statement in support of the president and the principles behind what's going on here. we have got to get republicans who know what time it is. republicans who understand the nature of this fight and if i see anymore of these gutless

invertabraes talking about the rule of law, that's over. it's a different game. reset your watches. it's not 2005. this is an assault on our country. >> thank you both. wonderful to see you both tonight. all right. jam packed show tonight. i'm glad you were with us. stay connected with us. set your dvr and remember it's america now and forever. gutfeld is next. yes, indeed. happy thursday, everybody. yeah. something happen? we'll get to that. the trump indictment news in the b block. stick around for that. first, it's almo