>> thanks for joining us on another slow news day. let's see what happens tomorrow. >> going to be a busy day today and brian has a wonderful show tomorrow night. you'll be talking about this a lot. >> mark levin is my first guest. >> i'll listen. >> bill: thank you, guys, here we go, 9:00 in new york. felony charges against a former u.s. president. we have never been here before. prosecutors trying to coordinate the arrest of donald trump. unprecedented move as we have said many times in history now, it is evolving by the minute and minute by minute we go on friday morning. bill hemmer, good morning. dana has the week off. our friend is back today. pleasure. thanks for being here, shannon. >> i'm shannon bream.

this is "america's newsroom." a years' long investigation. a grand jury brought an indictment to president trump. the charges are under seal for now. the counts number in the dozens. >> bill: that's sparking a firestorm of criticism for the manhattan d.a. alvin bragg. known as a soft on crime prosecutor. since he took office in january, he has downgraded more than 50% of felonies in new york to misdemeanors. he appears to be taking the opposite take against the former president. republicans calling it political persecution. manhattan d.a.'s office is in contact with the former president's legal team. they're working to coordinate his surrender. a logistic call nightmare. one of the president's attorneys said the d.a. wanted when im to

surrender today. the president pushed back on that and expected to happen on tuesday. >> bill: let's begin now. chad pergram on the hill. andy mccarthy with analysis. bryan llenas joins us outside the courthouse in lower manhattan, new york city. hello. >> good morning. last night's historic announcement of an indictment by manhattan district attorney alvin bragg came as a surprise to trump's own lawyers who don't know the charges and likely will not know them until his arraignment despite reports that trump is facing 34 criminal counts related to business fraud. >> he was shocked because we really -- i was shocked. i've never been angry but "the new york times" told us he was indicted and we got confirmation and 34 counts. we find out next week. >> on truth social the former president reacted writing these

thugs and radical left monsters have indicted the 45th president of the united states of america and leading republican candidate by far for the 2024 nomination for president. this is an attack on our country, the likes of which have never been seen before. likewise a continuing attack on our once free and fair elections. the usa is now a third world nation, a nation in serious decline. so sad. moving forward expect a highly choreographed spectacle. the scene outside of the manhattan criminal court this morning. the secret service is tasked with protecting the former president and they will neveriate with d.a. alvin bragg's office on how and when trump will surrender. whether the former president will be handcuffed. we are told secret service will accompany trump at all times including at processing and there will not be a public arrival and will not be a public perp walk because of security

we're told. typically when someone is processed at manhattan criminal courthouse they are brought into the d.a.'s processing center, fingerprinted, a mug shot. at that moment they're brought down an elevator and walked into a courthouse where a judge will read them their charges and then trump would presumably go into a not guilty plea and presumably be released on his own recognizance. his lawyers will not accept a plea deal and bill and shannon we're also told that every single nypd officer is on high alert ordered to be in full uniform and ready to be called at any moment as security is a big top of mind discussion outside the courthouse moving into next week. >> bill: thank you so much. much more to come on that. leading our coverage downtown today. >> well, one thing that we're concerned about in washington, congressman jordan and myself, that there is coordination being

conducted here between merrick garland d.o.j. and all these different entities going after donald trump. it is a political witch hunt. they are doing everything in their ability to create a narrative that would hurt donald trump. >> james comer blasting the indictment of former president trump as nothing more than a political hit job. more reaction from both sides of the aisle starts to pour in chad pergram is live on capitol hill. good morning, chad. >> good morning. house judiciary committee chairman or day said outrageous about the indictment. >> it's inappropriate not to give us a heads up. we're not surprised. that includes the speaker of the house not being told. the important thing to remember this was a campaign promise by the d.a. he said he would indict the president. he has now done so. >> today was the deadline for alvin bragg to provide house

committees information about his investigation. republicans contend the local prosecutor has no business investigating a former president let alone a candidate for 2024. >> hunter biden and joe biden could be prosecuted under this theory if they were on vacation in south carolina and made a call to china. this is a danger to the presidency and turning the rule of law upside down to destroy a man, donald trump, who the left fears. do not let them get away with this. >> fox has told three house committees investigating bragg will likely take a pause until mr. trump is arraigned but promised to probe the motives of the inquiry. democrats have defended bragg. >> you can't find any example of congress interfering in a local d.a.'s investigation and where would that end if we actually opened it up to that? >> the indictment compels republicans to rally around

former president trump. house republicans passed the touch stone of their legislative agenda yesterday. energy bill but all everyone is talking about the donald trump. shannon. >> it eclipses everything else going on over there. >> bill: andy mccarthy is watching the ping-pong back and forth. here we go now. we mentioned this a moment ago. since bragg has been in office he has downgraded 52% of the felonies in new york city to misdemeanors. we noted time after time the crime level in new york. fundamental question here. 7-year-old charge considered a misdemeanor somehow elevated and resurrected to a felony charge. how do you legally make that happen, andy? >> under new york law, bill, what you would do is you have to prove that donald trump, when he falsified business records, which is the misdemeanor accusation you're talking about was trying to conceal another crime.

here we have this very problematic situation where we're told the other crime is a federal campaign finance violation. i think there are numerous problems with that legally and as far as proof is concerned. legally, when the new york state statute talks about another crime, it clearly means another new york crime. alvin bragg does not have jurisdiction to enforce the federal campaign finance laws. i don't think that what trump did here, no matter what you think of it, actually constituents a violation of the campaign finance laws. but even if i'm wrong about that, the other problem bragg has is he would have to prove that trump knew that he had committed a campaign finance violation and that he falsified his business records knowing that in order to try to conceal it. i don't see how he gets there. >> so andy, tuesday we expect probably will be the arraignment. they will read the charges, the president will make his plea

which we will assume is not guilty. he said he is not guilty of these charges. how long does it take? he is in the middle of a campaign if he is the nominee that will culminate in november of 2024. a trial in new york in a year. >> longer than that perhaps, shannon. the motion practice that you will have will be immense. we talk about a congested new york criminal court system where things don't get to trial very fast even in the ordinary course. there is nothing ordinary about this. this could take a very long time. there is going to be a lot of motions. just the whole business of whether bragg actually has jurisdiction to put a federal charge in this and suddenly turn it into a five year statute of limitations will be a big issue. i think another thing that we haven't focused too much on is they are saying there are 34 charges here? this doesn't apply to new york,

but in the justice department, we have guidance that tells prosecutors to limit the number of charges to the things that are really serious because what you are always worried about for due process purposes is the prosecutor tries to bowl over the jury with quantity when the case doesn't have quality. so to make this thing which looks like really a nonsense case which are now 34 felony counts which each carries a four-year potential prison statute. what is this guy, nicki barnes, are you kidding? >> interesting. they all say you have to see the indictment. we haven't seen it yet. you mentioned more than 30 counts. allegedly that's for if you made $130,000 total payments but in 34 different payments each one could be a charge. one speculation from one legal analyst from last night. we think cowen is the lead witness.

maybe others, we don't know. a guy appreciate out of jail and on cnn last night. listen on the charges he talked about. >> this notion of oh, this is a weaker case than the january 6th. i acknowledge that. i always called this is capone theory. they couldn't get him on murder, extortion, racketeering, etc. they got him on tax evasion. if that crime don was enough for me to be charged, fined, convicted and sent to prison why am i any different than donald trump? >> bill: tie that together. does he have a point or off a deep end? >> he doesn't have a point. the problem is al capone did commit tax fraud. so getting him on that was legitimate. the federal prosecutors and federal election commission that actually have jurisdiction over federal campaign finance law investigated trump on this and decided not to prosecute him.

frankly, i don't think even michael cohen was guilty of the federal finance campaign finance violations. he was guilty of a bunch of other fraud counts which drove his sentencing guidelines up. they threw in two campaign finance violations because they were trying to make a case on trump and he agreed to plead guilty on them in order to make himself a more attractive cooperating witness to the southern district. he was trying to get a cooperation agreement. it didn't work out for him and he went to jail. he didn't go to jail because of the campaign finance violations but all the other fraud counts he pled guilty to. >> bill: we have 100 more questions. we don't have 100 more hours. >> that's a long time to answer them. >> bill: thank you, andy, appreciate that. want to read you something here. nancy pelosi made this statement on screen she said no one is above the law.

and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence. i thought it with as the other way around. you went to law school. >> i did and i practiced law and first year we learned that you are innocent until proven guilty in the united states under the judicial system that is currently works. the former speaker getting dinged for that this morning. >> bill: wanted to clarify that a little bit. front page of newspapers all over the country, washington, florida, "wall street journal," "new york times." daily news, all with the same cover and headline. trump indicted. where it goes, who knows? we'll be along for the ride and take you through it. great to have you here today, all right? troubling update on the american journalist jailed in russia. what the u.s. embassy says it has been unable to do and how his employers are now responding to that. >> good news for president biden. some democrats having a change of heart on his re-election saying they would actually like

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>> bill: president biden responding moments ago on the american reporter being held in russia telling moscow to let the reporter for the "wall street journal" go now. offering no threat of retaliation. the u.s. embassy in moscow saying it has not made contact with evan gershkovitch. he was detained on spying charges. officials warn it could be weeks or months before he is freed. greg palkot on this live in

london for the update today. greg, what do we know? >> the story goes on, bill. evan gershkovitch spending his third day in russian captivity. we don't have a lot more news about his status. the 31-year-old american "wall street journal" reporter was arrested wednesday by the fsb intelligence agency while he was on assignment in a city 800 miles east of moscow. yesterday he was hauled into a closed court hearing where he was charged with espionage and sent to jail for a two-month pre-trial detention. we now know, bill, that he is at a prison in moscow, a tough one for political prisoners, where it is believed marine veteran paul waylon has also been held. the white house is denying the charges, condemning did detention, demanding his release. we heard recently from president biden. the "wall street journal" is demanding more saying in a

strong editorial thugish leaders keep doing thugish things they think they will pay no price. the biden administration will have to consider diplomatic and political escalation. they also suggest, bill, that vladimir putin regime might have seized gershkovitch in response to charges the u.s. has made against a russian national just last week, or putin might be angry about a tough article that gershkovitch wrote about the russian economy this week, or they might be getting deeper into isolation and anger at the west and world as the war in ukraine grinds on and that u.s.-led alliance against russia pulls together for the moment. bill, first things first. as you noted, u.s./moscow embassy staffers, also the legal team for gershkovitch have still not met with him since he has been held by the russians. it has not been granted so far and there are real concerns about his safety, about his

status, about his health, about his conditions. we'll work further on this. >> bill: thank you for that. president biden en route no mississippi meeting with the tornado victims today made comments after leaving the white house. maybe more coming up later today. we'll watch it. thank you, greg, nice to see you in london. >> shannon: the president picking up some support within his own party. 52% of democrats say they want someone else at the top of the ticket in 2024. that's still a majority but down a point from last month. martha maccallum is here this morning. good morning, martha. it wasn't that long ago that what we heard from both sides they don't want a rematch of trump/biden. as we creep along the numbers are moving in that direction. >> it looks like that's what we are going to get. ill is early in the game. one of the things that strikes me about the situation surrounding the indictment for president trump, there is a feeling out there that everything is kind of upside down land, right?

when you walk around it is like a gotham feeling. everything isn't quite what it should be. there is a real, i think, unnerving feeling about that. i think that's why you see some gravitation toward this. we started to see president trump's numbers move before all of this. when you saw the spy balloon flying across the country, you see the drone get shot down by russia, these are things people find deeply unsettling. when you look at what's going on with this indictment, i think the american people understand the historical nature of this. this has never happened before. unprecedented and in order for them to sort of take that in a way that is acceptable, it needs to be an absolutely unassailable prosecution, right? it needs to be something that both sides can clearly look at and say there is no other choice than this. but we know 70% of independent voters see it as a political

prosecution. so there should have been an e are rick ring way to the side of not allowing this to happen unless it was absolutely unavoidable. that's not what you hear. >> bill: that was a quinnipiac poll this week. what trump predicted a month ago. if you indict me the support will go higher. we weren't quite sure. yesterday at this time we thought this thing would be punted for a month if not longer and boom, here it comes. this is the jump he got in our poll from month-to-month. he is up 11 points. >> he is up 11 points. i think it comes from that unsettled nature in foreign policy. people look at the white house and want a stronger response to things. i think that's why you start to see the numbers move. now i think you are seeing the strength will come from people saying something -- something is not right here. this doesn't feel right. everyone is telling them on both sides of the legal fence this is a very, very difficult case, right? the other thing i would say when

you look forward to the summer and deeper into the primary season, you will have the georgia case, you are going to have the jack smith cases for january 6th and classified documents. how much of this are the american people going to be able to stomach? will it dig them in more and more on the side of president trump or is it going to put them in a position where they say you no he what? i want to move away from the chaos. that's when you are going to have desantis or youngkin or pompeo or nikki haley lifting their head and saying i'm that potential option. but it is going to be very interesting. with the timing, i spoke to someone who used to be an assistant d.a. in southern new york. the timing. so what this they were taking vacation? they can decide at any moment. also they could, if they wanted to, i'm told, do this remotely, this process. it is unlikely that that will happen.

the former president may want to have this moment roll out for political purposes because he is clearly using it and digging it in. >> bill: there is this conventional wisdom starting to settle in over the last 12 hours. the "new york post" made the point here that they believe an indictment strengthens trump's possibilities of getting the nomination but hurts his chances in a general election against biden. >> be haar said we want him. he is more beatable. maybe be in the actual trial as a candidate as it plays out in new york and potentially in the other cases you talked about. she said the quiet part out loud. democrats want him to run. >> shannon: i look at pictures of the screen of president biden and former president trump. put yourself back in that moment, right, during covid, the basement campaigning that the

now-president did, right? and i heard from people all across this country as we were covering that campaign i just want something normal. we want adults in the room. now they have to ask themselves this question. in institutions in america. are there adults in the room? is that what is going on? is that what we've got right now? i think there is a very unnerved environment in the country right now people aren't sure. i hear it across the spectrum. what is going on here exactly? would alvin bragg have charged this exactly the way it is laid out in this case against anyone other than donald trump? >> bill: good questions and try to have answers for all of this. see you at noon. >> yes. see you on "outnumbered" and 3:00 on "the story." thanks you guys. good to be with you. >> bill: top story, former president trump calling the case political persecution accusing the manhattan d.a. of election interference. how does the case impact the

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>> mr. president, do you think the charges against trump are politically motivated? >> president biden: i have no comment on trump. >> bill: that was from a bit earlier today, from the white house. president biden maintaining silence during an unprecedented time in our nation's history. reports indicate a potential trial could take place in the thick of a presidential campaign. a race that could very well be a rematch of 2020. brit hume is here, fox news chief political analyst. great to have you on here. we have a bunch of stuff lined up for you.

i want you to wax poetic. before you do, this is what we found in our fox polling, all right? when it comes to potential violation of campaign finance laws, did donald trump do something illegal and 45% of those in the polling said yes, something unethical, 27% nothing serious at 25%. so is that setup for you. i was watching you last night. you had a long time to consider this, all of 14 hours. where are you today on what has happened here in new york city and the manhattan d.a.? >> well, an awful lot of ink has been spilled and a great number of words said about an indictment whose precise nature we don't yet know. based on all the previous reporting on this case, this doesn't look like the kind of case that needed to be brought and it wreaks of politics. but we haven't yet seen the indictment so it's apparent

weakness that has been remarked upon is not a sure thing. it is likely, i guess. so i think we'll know more in a few days. as for the rest of it, i think the worry here has to be, bill, that you don't ever want our justice system to look like it spotted a person it didn't like and tried to find a crime to charge that person with. it is supposed to work the other way around as has widely been said. if this turns out to be all that we've heard, that will be something a lot of people will conclude. >> shannon: i want to play something by former vice president pence who is sniffing around the idea of running himself in 24. here is what he says about this indictment and impact on the conversations? >> even though this has been in the news over the last two weeks, the media's obsession about these investigations into donald trump, i think it's being lost on the american people who are struggling under the weight of the failed policies of the biden administration. the american people are going to

look at this, see it as one more example of the criminalization of politics in this country. >> shannon: britt, how much momentum this has, now we watch for the trial to play out against what pence says there about the everyday issues. our polling shows this week the number one concern is still 90% of people are worried about inflation. >> i don't doubt that. people can think about two things at once. when something is in the news, which is as noteworthy as the first in history indictment of a president or former president, people will pay attention to that, weighed down though they may be by other concerns. in the near term it will be in the news and people will be talking about it and people will be reacting to it one way or the other. there is no way around that. pence's statement is a little way to get around commenting on the indictment itself.

>> bill: a zoo on tuesday if tuesday is the day in new york. meanwhile, britt, i wanted to ask you about the "wall street journal" poll that came out earlier in the week. a shift in american values and ideas and thoughts they have for themselves. patriotism and religion and having kids and community involvement. do you go back to 1998 as compared to 2023, they are all down significantly. some of them down by 50%. what do you make of this apparent significant shift among american values today? >> i think it's worrisome, bill, i really do. it points in the direction that a lot of other things seem to point. we're a nation in decline and that would be because we've strayed from the values that made us such a strong and cohesive country for so long. there have been up heave always in the past and divisions in the country but not quite this bad and it is a reflection of that.

the way the poll question was asked it was asking people not whether they think these things are important at all but whether they think they are as important as has been thought in the past. but it is nonetheless worrisome and i think people are right to think that. >> shannon: sad but interesting in that same poll is the only thing that ticked up in importance over the same polling period was money. what do you make of that? >> yeah, money. well, yeah, that's troubling, too. the knock on americans and the american system has been that people are greedy and too much worried about money. the value of money too highly and value people because of their money too highly. that's troubling because, you know, i don't -- my own sense of this just from living in this country is that i think people have always been concerned about money. when i was growing up we were a lot more worried about it than i am now after all these years. i think that's true of a lot of

people. nonetheless there it is. >> bill: david brooks echoed your comments. writing in the "new york times" the necessity of patriotism. people are so untrusting of their institutions and neighbors that they are unwilling to reach out to actively renew their communities and country and so the dysfunction will continue and the distrust will increase. we'll see where those numbers go next. >> yeah. think about that in the context of this indictment if it turns out to be what we all have been told it will be. what effect will that have on people's trust in the major institutions, and our legal system? that's something i think that a prosecutor considering charges against a former president or anybody needs to think about. is bringing this case going to enhance people's trust at a time when it is waning across a number of issues? i think that's a very important

question and one that does seem that perhaps mr. bragg did not ask or at least answer in a sensible way. >> shannon: a lot of distrust in major institutions. that's part of the consideration. thank you very much, always good to see you. >> good to talk to you all. >> shannon: many shocking images from the border and now another. texas state troopers finding dozens of illegal immigrants wearing camouflage clothing hiding in a cave stretching border officials to their limits. we're live in mission, texas. hello, alexis. >> another busy day at the nation's southern border. last night i watched as migrants ran out of the bushes in mission, texas, taken into custody. the chaos in southern texas as migrants in the new video find new tactics on how to get into the u.s. watch this. >> tracking here, a couple miles

down. we're finding tracks. that's when they made that discovery in texas. they found 36 migrants from mexico, guatemala and columbia hiding in the cave. the group who crossed illegally were dressed in camo head to tow trying to hideout in the cave but taken in for processing. let's go to the doorbell that shows dozens of migrants running through a neighborhood in eagle pass, texas running by there. the doorbell video, people who live there say they don't feel safe anymore. >> we have people crossing daily by our house. there are some people coming for the benefit of good but some that come for the bad. those moments of walking out of your home, do you feel safe or not? >> shannon, cartels aren't just smuggling in people but in

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>> shannon: new escalation in moscow, tensions with the united states after a "wall street journal" reporter was detained on espionage charges. the first american reporter to be held as an accused spy in russia since the collapse of the soviet union. the panel, fox news contributor katie pavlich and marie harf, welcome to you. marie, i want to start with you. we walked down this path before. the last time we did this most recently britteny griner was traded for the merchant of death. how do we negotiates this now with putin? does he have incentives to take americans, especially high profile like this reporter?

>> the last article evan wrote before he was detained was a story about the severe economic consequences that russia has faced because of their war in ukraine. this is a dangerous business and unfortunately, you know, there are only certain levers we can pull and use with russia to get people home when they are willing to undertake this kind of completely politicized arrest of a journalist who was just doing their job. it is a very dangerous place to be. i think we're all thinking today about whether americans should go to russia, how journalists should cover the conflict and stay safe. the biden administration has spoken out. he spoke out about it today. they do have ways to negotiate the release of these kinds of political prisoners, sometimes that involves less than ideal prisoner swaps but it is often deemed worth it to get these americans home like it was with britteny griner. >> bill: it strikes me we are in a major propulsiony war with russia for more than a year.

tens of billions of dollars into the war in ukraine and many more to come before it's all over. we're also coming off a three-day summit where president xi of china went to moscow and. i remark on that because this wasn't like going to washington and popping in the oval office for a photo op. he was there for three days. they talked about a lot of things. >> they did indeed. it's becoming clear that the warnings about trading the merchant of death at a time when russia was waging their war against ukraine that the united states was helping ukrainians with arms wasn't going to turn out well and that this would only result in the russians feeling more emboldened to take hostages just because of the imbalance of the high level of bell and what he was worth to the russians and his role in providing weapons to a number of

groups in africa. funding civil wars and now back in the game doing it on behalf of russia against ukraine. the past couple of weeks have been very telling about president joe biden's foreign policy in terms of china swooping in not just into russia for that meeting with vladimir putin, but also this new brokering between saudi arabia and iran showing that u.s. leadership is lacking not just in russia but in the middle east and with china and a vacuum is being filled as joe biden continues down this road of not explaining how this won't spiral out of control with u.s. interests at stake. >> shannon: this is what the editorial board. thugish leaders will do thugish things if there is no consequence. the u.s. government's first duty is to protect its citizens and

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prevailed. the jury finds her not libel for the accident. live streermd courtroom testimony. jeff paul is live in los angeles with the latest. hey, jeff. >> it only took jurors a few hours to make up their mind. look how they reacted when it came to an end. >> what percent of the fault do you assign to terry sanderson. >> 100%. >> damages, what amount fairly common sates gwyneth paltrow for economic damages? $1. >> a bit of relief in paltrow's face saying she wasn't to blame for the 2016 ski collision. she put out a statement shortly after leaving the utah courtroom writing in part i felt that act -- i am pleased with the outcome and appreciate the hard work of the judge and the jury.

outside the courtroom here is how they responded. >> we are pleased with this outcome and appreciate the judge and jury's thoughtful consideration in handling of the case. gwyneth has always had a history of advocating for what she believes in this -- believes in and this statement was no different. she will continue to stand up for what is right. >> assumed credibility of being a famous person, you know. people just who wants to take on a celebrity? >> as paltrow left the courtroom she touched sanderson's shoulder and told him i wish you well to which sanderson replied, thank you, dear. >> bill: that was not the only thing happening in that courtroom. today's edition of hemmer celebrity news. are you ready?

she is earning praise for her courtroom fashion. eight outfits in eight days, shannon. she went with a neutral color pallet. did you know that? experts say it looked sophisticated and stylish especially for park city, utah. now you know celebrity news of the day. do you agree with that evaluation? >> shannon: she took a lot of heat for the jeffrey dahmer glasses. >> bill: next hour begins right now. check this out. >> i said from day one this is a political stunt. another example why the american people have lost confidence in our judicial system. >> now is the time to celebrate justice. it benefits all of us. >> i think the american people will see it as one more example of the criminalization of politics in this country. >> donald trump does not take avice from anyone how to handle

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