♪ ♪ >> hello, everyone, i'm alicia acuna along with mollie hemingway, or andy mccarthy and joe concha, and welcome to "the big saturday show." the big story, the massive preparations in place right now ahead of president trump's historic court appearance many just three days. federal, state, local law enforcement and trump's legal team all coordinating for the former president's surrender on tuesday. trump is first expected to report to the district attorney's office that morning with secret service protection. when he will be arrested,

fingerprinted and photographed. the former president's son defended him on "fox & friends" this morning and pointed to what he calls the dangers of allowing the manhattan d.a.'s politically-motivated witch hunt to set a new standard for justice. watch this. >> the will happen to every single republican. i mean, change the name to donald trump to whoever's sitting in that the number one seat, and you better believe they're going to get attacked, and they're going to be slandered and smeared, and the other side's going to pay for fake dossiers and try do im-- to to the impeach them. they weaponize the legal system. >> meanwhile, the united states' secret service and the nypd have been goshing how best to deliver a former president to the manhattan courthouse and the president's detractors may be disappointed that sources say he won't be handcuffed. here's trump's former acting attorney general on what to expect. >> obviously, there's major security risks anytime a former

president is in public, and the secret service legitimately wants to minimize that. at the same time, you know, we hear all the time how no one's above the law, and so, you know, you have to -- when somebody's charged with a crime, you have to put them through the typical process of an arraignment and, you know, reporting their information. i think it's just a negotiation from those that are protecting donald trump and those that, you know, need to do their job with. >> okay. we are going to rely heavily on the exper e tease of andy mccarthy here who's going to help guide us through all of this and what to expect on tuesday. andy, first, what should we expect to see? what should americans expect to see? but also what should they not expect to see? >> well, i like that question because this is not -- for those who think this may be january 6th part who the, that is not going to happen. this one, probably less than half a square mile of lower manhattan has seen every single big terrorism trial that we had

in the country from, like, 1993 through 9/11. they know how to do this, nay know -- the nypd is very good at this. there'll be security. so i don't concern it will not get out of control like some people predict it will. as far as what'll happen with the president, with the former president, he will be brought -- there'll be negotiation between the secret service and the nypd. they have very good law enforcement agencies, they coordinate together all the time, a lot of secret service protecting, he's spent a lot of time in new york, so this is not anything new in terms of having these two agencies cooperate. the district other than's office is in the -- attorney's office is in the criminal courthouse. st basically the same building. so he'll be brought into the building through some coordination between the agencies, they'll have a room9 where the nypd will be there, he'll be fingerprinted and photographed just like every defendant who comes into the with system.

at a certain point, we hear it'll be around 2:15, but those things tend to be more fluid than that, but he'll be brought to a courtroom where a judge will conduct an arraignment. he's being arrested on an indictment. some people are arrested on a criminal complaint which is just the sworn police statement. here the grand jury's actually returned an indictment which means the court will ask the former president to enter a plea. he'll plead not guilty. it's a nonviolent crime whether it's 34 crimes or 1 crime in the indictment, so he'll be released on his own recognizance, and it should be quick. >> andy, you have a lot of well-regarded legal experts such as former attorney general william barr saying this indictment is a legal abomination. you have a lot of people saying the case just is not strong. on the other hand, the indictment happened, it's going to be a case that'll be heard before a jury of manhattanites, not known for being particularly friendly to form ther president

trump. what does president trump have going for him, and what's not -- what because he wish might be going differently. >> well, yeah. i think attorney general barr is right about the quality of the case. the thing i think most people hone in on because this is the thing we should hone in on is that bragg is an attorney or a district attorney who is most no notorious for taking serious crime in new york and pleading it down to misdemeanors or not prosecuting it at all. here he's taken an offense which would never be prosecuted against anyone who's not named trump, and i defy anyone to be able to show that, you know, something in bragg's record indicates that the anybody other than trump would have been charged with falsifying business records which is a misdemeanor under new york law. here he's taking this misdemeanor, and he's trying to inflate it into felonies, 4-year counts, and many of them, evidently, using -- we hear -- a

federal campaign finance statute that the federal government itself investigated and decided not to charge trump with and that bragg doesn't have any jurisdiction to enforce. so the best thing trump has going for him is people's basic sense of fairness. and i tried cases for a long time in front of new york juries, i found them to be pretty good juries. and i would say one thing, you know, trump has not always had the best legal advice. he's got excellent defense lawyers in new york who have spent their whole careers in front of new york juries, so he's got a lot of that going for him. on the other hand, you know, if you're indicted, you could be twict quacked. -- convicted. and the district attorney is trying to hedge his bets by taking something that shouldn't be charged at all -- imagine this, the feds, who have expertise in the, look at this and they say zero counts. and the district attorney who has yo curse -- just

jurisdiction says i'm seeing 34 felonies. >> why is he counting 34 counts? >> because he only needs one. they're going to put a lot of things in front the jury that's going to show unsavory behavior. you know, you have hush money. nondisclosure agreements, by the way, are legal. they're a staple of civil practice, but hush money's got that pejorative sound to it, it sounds dark,some affair with a porn star, that's what's alleged, she'll probably testify and say that it happened. so there's a lot of icky stuff about the case, right? so what you hope if you're the prosecutor is 34 counts, we'll have some jurors who hate trump so much that they won't acquit him even if that's what the law requires. you'll have some jurors who will try to follow the law which would probably lead them to acquit, and if they get deadlocked, what happens in trials is the judge brings them in and instructs them, you know, you've got to go back and try to

resolve case, because if you don't, we're just going to have to do out all over again with 12 the more people. and that's a lot of pressure. a lot of juries compromise, and if you are holding out to acquit rump the, if you say i'll convict on one count but will acquit on 33 and that'll send a message of what a bad case this is, as far as the state's concerned, that's a win. they want him to be a convicted felon, so that's the game. >> andy, manhattan voted for donald trump in 2020 something like 12% of the vote he got in this very, very deep blue city. so why should anybody suspect -- and i know you said new york juries can be good, but in a place that's so overwhelmingly liberal in the environment given who donald trump is and the reactions that he from certain people, how can we possibly be confident that this'll be a fair juriesome. >> we can't. and -- jury? >> we can't. and i think his claim is going to be that the whole system is rigged against -- you know, look, if the district attorney

is rigged against him, why shouldn't you assume that the district attorney who picked this place to have the trial didn't factor in that he thought this was the best jury and maybe this was the best judge as well this and i think we'll hear trump's lawyers, again, are going to be very effective, and they will paint it that way. but what i'm saying as somebody who spent 20 years trying cases in front of new york juries is that if the case actually does get tried, people have a sense of fairness. and these new yorkers or will not being asked do you want donald trump to be president. they'll being asked do you want him to be convicted for something that, number one, the state doesn't have evidence for and, number two, they pulled him in when they would never have hauled anybody else who wasn't named donald trump in on this piece of, you know, whatever. >> well, and, andy, we -- and we were talking about this before, that there are legal minds from both ends of the political spectrum saying that this is a weak case. >> right. >> but is it pair to say that

this is not -- fair to say that this is not nothing? >> it's not nothing where, you know, look, to get an indictment, you have to the convince a grand jury that there's probable cause. everybody says a grand jury will indict a ham sandwich, but there's got to be something there for them to quiet. but it doesn't mean it's a crime beyond a reasonable doubt which is what the jury will be asked to resolve. >> got it, thank you. we are going to continue this conversation. so what kind of precedent does president trump's indictment set? even liberal comedian bill maher is concerned. >> you set off this cycle of revenge like the house of atrias, is and i garon' you when biden is out of office day who the, they will try to arrest him. >> what could the arrest of a president mean for america? that's next. ♪ will you meet me in the end? ♪ will you love me just a little, just enough to show you care? is ♪

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comedian bill maher sees a bug problem with charging president trump -- big problem with charging president trump with a crime. listen. >> i always ask myself the question, what is actually better for the future of the country and my future. [laughter] because i don't want to live in a country where we are one of these places where whoever is president, as soon as they get out of office, they go after them. i guarantee you when with biden is out of office, day who with the, they will try -- day two the, they will try to arrest him. >> be care that was you don't dance on the grave of your enemy, because you may fall in. >> if you're going to duty the first president ever in the history of this country for something and thal real precedent, the real potentially dangerous precedent that that sets, why couldn't it have been for one of these other investigations rather than this new one which is going on a novel legal theory that the d.a. in the manhattan has? st not even clear if he'll be able to get a conviction. >> the message coming out of that segment there is people may be celebrating this, but you've really got to be careful what you wish for.

>> absolutely. and it's interesting to the hear people say this. you know, you had so many people talk about how this political prosecution of donald trump is okay because no one is, no one is above the law. but it's also true that no one should be under the law, which is actually what we've seen with president trump for the last six years where he seems to be reit thed more poorly than the -- treated more poorly than the average american would be, being denied due process or seeing all these political prosecutions. there is a very big concern here that because this line has been crossed of doing a political prosecution, the only way to stop it will be for some red state attorney general or a district attorney in an 80% republican area to come up with something, to golf after some -- to go after some hot democrat rising star or the former president or their former presidents,, and they certainly have some they could go after between bill clinton and barack obama for various things. that is the only way to stop it, because the whole idea that no one is above the law, that only works when justice is blind.

but we all know and have been experiencing for the last several years that justice isn't blind. depending on which side of the political arguments you're on, you either can sort of get away with murder, or you will be prosecuted, and the standards are completely different. and so, unfortunately, the only way to stop this will probably be through turn about is fair maker or mutually assured destruction. that's why so many people on both sides of the aisle are so upset about what happened. >> and the celebrating might be shortsighted, and there are a lot of members of the media who are particularly excited. when this announcement came out, take a listen to this. >> millions of americans have been waiting for this day for years. >> i can't even think of an artifact, a mug shot that's going to be circulating around the world in the kind of way that this one of donald trump is. >> you will reap what you sow. [cheers and applause] >> this is good news for everybody! >> the judge that -- [laughter] presided over that case where the trump family was found

guilty is same judge presiding over donald trump's 30 count cans. >> conch, the amount of glee this those statements coming from those folks. >> giddiness, smugness. these people that that pretend to be journalists. you say, oh, that's sunny hostin, she's on "the view is," it's under the abc news umbrella. and on msnbc, i mean, you just never saw more people happy about the pact that we are now seeing the weaponization of our justice system, and that's a good thing because of who the target is. but i'll give bill maher credit here because at least he doesn't follow the crowd in terms of what is the approved narrative, right? and all never see stephen colbert or seth meyers or jimmy kimmel ever say what bill maher did op on his show in terms of saying this could be a very bad thing because if it happens to a republican president, it will happen to a democratic president because that's the how concern

that's how things work in washington. >> andy, you wrote about this for foxnews.com and national review, about the weakness of this case. so the people out there who may be really happy with what they're is seeing going down and expecting on tuesday, maybe they shouldn't be. >> yeah, well, that's e what makes this so dangerous, actually. no no one's above the law, true. and we could never say even a president or former president is above the law. if someone committed a series crime, we would have to -- a serious crime, we would have to be open to the idea of prosecuting that. but, you know, the administration of the law in this country is not like every crime gets prosecuted, right? there's an element of policy and politics that goes into this. i was a prosecutor for a very long time. there's a lot of reasons that we don't bring cases that actually, where crimes actually do get committed. one very good reason would be given what should be our resistance to having law enforcement intrude into electoral pollices, if you're

going to bring a case against a former president who's a current candidate, it better be a very strong, very serious case that's supported by convincing evidence. if not, half this country's going to hi that the criminal justice concern think that the criminal justice system is a rigged game, and if it is, we're now in the law of the jungle, not the rule of law anymore. >> that was the thing the, with nixon you at least had bipartisanship, right? there were republicans that were onboard that with that that impeachment which led to his resignation which is why the country didn't fall apart. instead you see, again, so many members of the media so happy about this -- and social media, forget about it. i just remember this poll released by gallup, 84% of americans believe the media is responsible for acquisition in this country, and this is exhibit a for division. >> and james comey is very happy who made that decision to not prosecute hillary clinton, it kind of made sense at the time. i mean, she might have been guilty, but you don't want to

get involved in prosecuting someone who's running for president, and that is reasonable. but then to have that same fbi and department of justice go so far in the other direction with the russia collusion hoax which both andy and i have written about and then seeing all the politicized prosecutions at the federal, state and local level, that's where we've got a problem. >> there's a lot more evidence that hillary violated the espionage act and took government property than there is that trump violated campaign finance reform. >> well, we will continue on this one, for sure. next, another wild weather weekend as oheds rip through the south -- tornadoes rip through the south and midwest. we'll take you live to a theater that was packed with concert-goers when the roof collapsed. plus, as protesters ambush a pro-life event on a college campus, a new poll reveals the shocking change in views about america and college. ♪ ♪ -- because the beer's on me.

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♪ ♪ >> welcome back to "the big saturday show." at least 14 people are dead as tornadoes and severe weather ripped through the southeast and midwest n. little rock, arkansas, more than 2,000 homes are damaged or destroyed. one of the deaths happened when the roof collapsed during a soldout con earth at the apollo theater in bevel deer, illinois. that's where we find fox weather's mitti hicks. [no audio] do the we have mitti? okay. we'll get her back if we can get the transmission back up. meanwhile, or let's go to our next story which is violent protesters overtaking a peaceful pro-life event on the virginian commonwealth university bcu campus this week. students for life of america,

the president hosting the event, here's what she had to say this morning. >> since the reversal of roe v. wade, these folks have become completely unhinged. it's the unbelievable that this continues to happen in our country. but we weren't going to let them stop us. >> while the student body at cornell university is telling professors to predict what materials could be, quote, traumatizing to students and and include trigger warnings in their syllabuses. is it a coincidence with free speech under attack that 56% of adults say that college isn't worth it? all right, let's go you, or alicia, college grad of what university? >> northern arizona university. >> northern arizona? >> yes. >> okay. and looking back on it, is your degree important in terms of where you got to in this business, or was it the experience that you got through internships and just workingen lower levels and smaller networks and smaller channels to eventually get here? >> it was actually both because i majored in broadcast

journalism. >> sure. >> so here i am. but this is an i have the, as we all know, has no rhyme or reason, is so it doesn't necessarily meanst going to the lead you to sitting where we are right here. but when it comes to things like these trigger warnings that you're abe the at cornell, i find that concerning because i don't see how that can be helpful to students. i think about this younger generation, and i really start to think about what if we got -- there's the more of us than there are of them, meaning there's more gen-xeres, baby boomers, older millennials who, i think, can stop and just say, enough. it's enough. you know what? in life your feelings are going to get hurt. sometimes you're going to the fail, sometimes the bad guy's even to going to win. but you know what? if you make it through that, you will be better and off ther for it. but it you're protected from even ideas that might offend you, i don't see how that makes you competitive on the world stage. >> and i actually, i teach at hillsdale college, our main campus is in michigan, i teach at the d.c. campus. it is true that sometimes you're bringing up a topic where you

need to prepare the students that something serious might be going on. but, in fact, these young cults are quite capable. and the -- adults are quite capable. and the more that you give them, the more they're able to handle these discussions, and i fear we are hurting these young people by not treating them as the young adults they are. >> check out this hole here it's a four-year college education, is it worth the cost? 42% say yes, 56% say no. but you look back just six years ago, 499 % said yes, 47% said n. that is quite the swing. you go back to 20 the 13, it's 53-40, the yeses have it. andy, what is the shift? is it because we've seen the diversity of thought, we hear from the left so often how diversity is important, but the diversity of thought, apparently, is not welcome on campuses. in 2022 commencement speeches at the top 100 ranked colleges in the country, only 3 conservatives were allowed to speak out of those 100, and one of them was tim tebow who spoke

at the university of florida where he won a national championship, a heisman trophy, so is he conservative? [laughter] i don't know, maybe he just is a guy who won for the but and orange down there. we see colleges so politicized that some parents are like, you know what? i don't think it's worth it. >> the value is the problem. you come out with what they keach you, and they're findingst the not salable. ing look, i went to columbia. i had misgivings about it, but my mom said you have to know how the enemy thinks. so i got through four years of that and four years of law school which was more of the same. and i just, i can't help looking at this story and then looking at the last story we kid and basically say -- we did and basically say if you degrade every assumption that we have about the institutions that have made america america and then you find that the country is, like, sort of the wheels are coming off, why should you be surprised? so we just came off a story where we're talking about the

criminal justice system and law enforcement authority being weaponized. right in? -- right? now we come to another story where you can't even have exchange of ideas on the university campus which was invented in order to have a free and fair exchange of ideas. and i just don't think -- i feel like we have the same conversation every time one of these stories comes up. you can't seed the institutions and organs of opinion in a society to progressives concern cede for who or three generations and then expect everything's going to be fine. guess what? everything's not fine. >> $90,000, it costs per year almost now to send your kid to stanford which is considered one of the best colleges in the country. $360,000 the just for one kid. so before taxes, i've got to the make a half m if il to send my kid to a place where literally earlier this year they wanted to ban the word american from that

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>> fox weather alert, cleanup underway from another round of tornadoes in the south and midwest. fox weather's mitti hicks is live in belvedere, illinois. hi, mitti. >> reporter: hi. yeah, well, it's a sad situation here in belvedere, illinois, where folks went out on a friday night to enjoy a music if concert with their friends and their loved ones, and then mother nature wreaked halve sock. -- havoc. you see clean-up crews where the9 apollo theater, the roof collapsed here and, unfortunately, one person has died, dozens others are are

injured. at least two of those injures are life threatening, two others are critical, and at least 18 people have moderate injuries. so just to give you some perspective, that line of storms that we talked about yesterday, into yesterday afternoon into the evening, we said people here should expect at least 90 mile-per-hour wind gusts, and it just kind of paints the picture on how strong these winds were here yesterday. at least 215 tornado warnings across 13 states. it's unclear right now if a tornado, indeed, hit this community. we're waiting on the national weather service to confirm here, but our thoughts and prayers are with everyone here as this situation continues to unfold here. >> mitti hicks, thank you so much for covering this important story so the rest of the country can help out everyone here. in other news, san francisco's mayor is now asking the state for help to the find crime. what's wrong with that? well, she promised to dethe fund the police three years ago -- defund.

remember this? >> we will redistrict $12 the 0 million from law enforcement to support these priorities over the next two years. let me repeat that. this is $120 million, it's a first step. >> in december 20 to the 21 is mayor breed backed off a little from her defund the police pledge. but now she's asking the new u.s. attorney for help against drug dealing saying: the problem is beyond our local capacity. you know, the san francisco chronicle just came out with a big piece saying that the downtown of san francisco is about to collapse ask is take down the whole bay area economy with it. they're calling for san francisco residents to do something major like new york did after 9/11 to rebuild the city because of how serious this problem is. but do we have reason to believe, joe, that san francisco's capable of doing something big like that? >> not with the current leadership in place right now,

right? what because san francisco depend on? tourism. and people are simply afraid to go there at this point. london breed, she's currently at 36% approval, 64% disapproval, if probably the bluest city in the country. that's hard for a democrat to do because she went with 7 -- she won with 70% of the vote. half of her support in three years is gone. crime, drug overdoses are the leading causes for those numbers going down. and when you take $120 million from the police and sheriff's departments just like bill de blasio here in new york took away a billion dollars from this new york city police department, you know what police officers dosome they resign. hay don't stop working necessarily, or hale go the other cities or other states like florida where they're seeing a surge of police recruitment down there because their police actually feel appreciated under that governor and that state in ron desantis. >> although we did see that unlike philadelphia and los angeles, the people of san francisco did recall was it. >> chesa boudin, yeah.

>> -- who they felt was too soft on crime. you are seeing such a big change from where we were with the rhetoric just a few years ago. people seem to be very fed up. >> but i still think the most important thing joe said was that breed won with 70% of the vote. it's not like breed spontaneously appeared, right? people of san francisco, this is what they wanted. democracy is you give the people what they want good and hard? well, you know, if you go to the other side of the country, larry crasser in, who's probably the worst district attorney in the country, he's elected once, crime skyrockets, murder or skyrockets in philadelphia, and he's reelected. like, overwhelmingly -- >> aren't they trying to recall him? [laughter] >> well, the state is trying to -- the state of pennsylvania, right? but the city of philadelphia where they elected him, he's got very broad support, and this is a big problem. this is not just the leadership,

this is a cultural thing that's coming from beneath. >> and i think it's just, it's taken time. if you give something enough time, you're going to see a result. and what sounded like a great idea at the time to some eventually started to slowly take its toll and they were able to try to defend it best they could in a political way, but the numbers are the numbers, the victims are the victims, and those can't be denied. >> right. >> and i was just going to say on the numbers are the numbers, heir now trying to shift the blame to the feds. the feds can't do anything -- >> right. >> in new york we have 38,000 police? there's, like, 12,000 fbi agents in the whole country. >> and it's not just police that are leaving, by way. listen to this, an american housing survey, they found that 8% of san francisco's total population say they plan on moving to a different city within the next two years. that is the largest by far of any city. and where are they going? they're going to texas, florida, they're going to places like nashville in tennessee because, hey, they don't have taxes, and

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♪ you're like a '59 cadillac, like all the good things -- >> welcome back to "the big saturday show." human smuggling running rampant as the biden administration fails toss secure the southern border -- fails to secure the southern border. dozens of illegal immigrants from central america crammed inside a moving truck that was stopped near el paso, yet in a new interview homeland security secretary mayorkas tries to defend the border crisis. >> the number of people that are arriving at our border is at an extraordinary height. there's no question about that. but that is not unique to the southern border of the united states. there is a tremendous amount of movement throughout the hemisphere and, in fact, throughout the world. >> the extraordinary height. [laughter] joe -- >> yeah? >> when barack obama was

president, his homeland security secretaries used to get these daily reports, ask is he understood -- and he understood that if you got a thousand people a day trying to cross into the country, that -- even i can figure out that math, 360,000 people a year. he thought that was beyond a crisis. we're now about 10 times beyond what we thought was a crisis back then. and if title 42, when title 42 goes, which it will very shortly, that could double or rip thing. >> we're a long way from jeh johnson, who you're referring to. and you're right, he said that was an unacceptable level. >> right. >> and we're seeing numbers that are completely unsustainable. this is a national security issue, andy, because now we've had 182 people that have been a apprehended at the southern border that are on the fbi terror the watch list. so when we have our next 9/11 and we look back and say, wow,

why couldn't we connect the dots? the dots are right here, and we're not doing anything about it, let alone the 100,000 people that die in this country from fentanyl poisoning that comes from china, through mexico, and it's the leading cause of death for those between 18-49, and alejandro mayorkas doesn't care. i'm going to watch that interview, and if he doesn't get some serious pushback from "60 minutes," it's going to be a big problem because that's still a top ten show, it has influence, and they better not let him off the hook because he has failed in his job, and people will die and they are dying as a result of this administration and that department of homeland security secretary if you even want to call him that at this point. >> he's saying, oh, there's movement in other countries. a lot of movement in other countries is precisely because with we have a open, porous border. t not something that just happened magically. we've had problems with our border for a hong period of time, but everyone knows that during the previous administration, the trump administration, we were actually starting to get a secure border.

from day one and actually even from before day one of the current administration, the biden administration, it has been a willful, you know, removal of every protection we had. we just decided to the hand over control of our southern border to criminal cartels who run mexico, ands the a crisis whether he admits it or not, the fact that he's unable to admit it's a crisis makes you more alarmed. >> well, i think, you know, in terms of willfulness, the last casualty is reality, right? and speak of reality, a little bit more from secretary mayorkas. >> do you view what's happening right now on the border as a crisis. >> i view it as a significant challenge. >> why won't you say the word crisis? >> you know what? because i have tremendous faith in the people of the department of homeland security, and a crisis speaks to me of a withdrawal from our mission. >> alicia, do you view what we're doing now as a television

program? >> yeah, no -- [laughter] i don't. we'll call it something else. i think the american people, we know, will put up with a lot, but hay don't like being treated like they're stupid and having just a bunch of words put out there to make something sound pretty when it's really ugly. st an ugly situation that his own employees, the people who are under him, are experiencing right now. they don't have faith in the him. so for him to say i can't call it a crisis because that means i'm not showing faith in the people i work for, he knows that there are reports -- we have audio that we've had on our own air that, from people who work for him who say they don't believe in him. and so for him to do that is not just disingenuous, it's just wrong. and the american people, i know, are just sicced and tired of it. [inaudible conversations] >> yeah, i'm sorry. for him to say he has faith in his border agents and official ifs, the same guy who accused them of whipping haitian migrants and has never apologized after proof came out that did not happen, 13 border

agents committed suicide last year. did he go to one funeral? did he honor them in any way, shape or formsome. >> i would say one thing about that though, mayorkas can can -- is awful, he's not the policymaker. >> correct. >> he's carrying out biden's policy, and it's now a much worse situation -- >> although he still swore an oath to uphold the constitution. he is definitely someone that people are looking at for possible impeachment because he has failed to defend our border. it is the a national security issue. you're not a country if you don't have borders. >> right, exactly. and also i've spent time at the border, and there have been plenty down south, democrats, who have expressed their fury and frustration with this administration because they feel like they can't get their attention themselves. these are democrats. so it is mind-boggling. >> that's the thing, why? why are they allowing this to happen? what's the end game? i have no idea because it doesn't make sense. >> well, the end game, i'm afraid, is now going to be a much worse thing to get to the than it would have been even four years ago because this is

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welcome back to "the big saturday show". it is time now for the biggest saturday flops. our picks for the biggest sales

of the week, i get to go first. the legal drama might not be over for actress gwyneth paltrow for the doctor who first sued her is considering an appeal after a jury found the doctor who was the one who was actually at fault for the ski slopes collision for it so he is going to possibly give it another go but i say bring it on, yes please. i want more commentary from gwyneth paltrow on the stand talking about how she missed half a day of skiing and how awful that was up at like the fashion comments. i like watching it just because there are some of the awful things going on in the world and if he brings it all he brings on himself, the complaining here. but for me, folks i'm sure you are a skier you know these are very important rules. dealt with skiing and who is at fault for a collision. i grew up learning these things. i am glad it was mentioned in the big court trial. >> i committed enough terrible trials i do not need to watch it on tv.

>> i have been watching since the mid- 90s. she has had that on her face for 25 years, smile at once in a while please question request you are not that upset. i will let you go. >> new census data reveals over 500,000 people fled california from april 2020 through july 2022. everyone is saying this passage of the high housing prices, the high crime, all of the national disasters. also what i set the overbearing response to the covid pandemic that gavin newsom was thought so everyone seems to try to get out of california because of all that nice things we said about san francisco. >> a while, think of that. you got newsom batting cleanup, right? i got nancy pelosi still represents san francisco. alyssa milano, would you say they're either question request adam schiff is going to be upset he could not even make. >> i forgot about adam schiff did eric swallow for that matter. forty-nine yankees.

>> the report of the social security board of trustees is sounding alarm bells as the fund that millions rely on will be exhausted by 2033, if no action is taken to keep it solve it. i do not know how this will ever get resolved if everybody pushes the politics of this to be that it is a black box that nobody can touch. because if nobody touches it, it is gone. >> al gore so that during one debate but every time a republican wants to say we have to do something about this, you are attacking social security are taken away from people it's never going to get solved you're right. >> the american people don't want things done with it even they should think about the country because they do not want to disappear selfish. anyway actor dennis quaid is out the new documentary called grit down power up which explains what the fallout would be from a sudden electric grid failure. remember this is dennis quaid is saying this but not cousin eddie not randy quaid this is the

smart one of the clades i should not say that about randy falls me on twitter for whatever reason. in all seriousness i watch a trailer earlier it's beyond scared let me give you a quote from ted koppel a real journalist our power grid is as vulnerable to cyber attack is a thousands upon thousands of businesses, companies, government agencies and our contact over the past two months. it's not a matter of with it but win and it will be catastrophic that country will melt down if we do not have power for even a couple of days and we need to commit more of our military budget to protecting our power plants which have been attacked riesling by the way by terrorists. quickly pass the massive info structure bill so i assume everything is already taken care of. >> it is sarcasm saturday. [laughter] looks exactly. but seriously though, you remember 2003 when our power went down on the east coast because a couple trees and power lines in ohio they were down for days. people simply cannot survive back in the 1880s if you do not have access to twitter and facebook, can you imagine how mad people will go? >> kids cannot charge their

phones. >> see what everyone went quiet's. that's very serious. >> even mayorkas would think that's a crisis. [laughter] >> may be. that doesn't for us means you back here tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern for the big sunday show. the fox report with jon scott right now. ♪ ♪ ♪ a six at least 21 people are dead and many more injured across six states after tortoise ripped across parts of the midwest and south last night. the ferocious dorms left a widespread damage destroying homes and businesses and leaving hundreds of thousands without power in northern illinois the powerful storm system collapse the roof of a theater during a sold-out concert killing one person and injuring dozens more. good evening i am jon scott and this is the fox report. ♪