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the democrats understand what they were protesting? absolutely not. they just want to lock up trump. anthony from florida. i would take johnny's job for a day. where do i sign up? then you have to deal with me most of the time. you don't want that. tucker's up next with the big speech. remember, i'm waters, this is my world. >> tucker: good evening and well in to tucker carlson. donald trump was arraigned in a manhattan court today. the former president is back in florida and scheduled to speak in just a moment from mar-a-lago. this feels significant so we will take you to his remarks as they begin. it's worth understanding what it is we've just seen. often the clearest perspectives
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come on our country come from outside its borders. here is salvador's president. think what you want about former president trump and the reasons he's being indicted, but just imagine if this happened in any other country where a government arrested the main opposition candidate. the united states's about to use, quote, democracy as foreign policy is gone. thousands of miles from new york city in the heart of central america it is very obvious what just happened in that manhattan courthouse. it's obvious to many democrats, too. trump was criminally charged because he is planning to challenge joe biden in the upcoming presidential election. it's really that simple. if donald trump retired in 2020, would he have been arraigned tonight? of course not. most democrats know that. some admit it. politico ran a piece describing
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president biden's most senior advisers predicting trump will be the nominee. and, now that he has been charged with crimes, will lose the general election. thanks to this criminal case, the biden white house believes swing voters are, quote, now permanently out of trump's reach. just to make certain that swing voters never fall within trump's reach, donald trump is scheduled to be back in court in new york with the accompanying media circus just weeks before the first republican primary. this is the boldest election interference ever attempted in this country's history. if you doubt that, if you think it's on the level, we suggest you look carefully at the indictment that was unveiled today. donald trump has been charged with 34 separate crimes. those crimes turn out, on close examination, to be the same crime repeated 34 times. that crime is, quote, falsifying business records in the first
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degree. the manhattan da alleges donald trump sent his own money for people for entirely legal reasons, but didn't account for it correctly in his office records. that's what he is accused of. and even if what alvin bragg said trump did he actually did do, trump could not be charged with that because the statute of limitations has expired. so the question is how did alvin bragg drag donald trump into court today? he did it by claiming trump falsified business records as a means of violating some other, much more serious law. that's what he's saying. here's alvin bragg today. >> under new york state law, it is a felony to falsify business records with intent to defraud and intent to conceal another crime. that is exactly what this case is about. 34 false statements made to
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cover up other crimes. these are felony crimes in new york state no matter who you are. we cannot and will not normalize serious criminal conduct. the defendant repeatedly made false statements on new york business records. he also told others to make false statements. >> tucker: so here's what bragg just said, in case you weren't paying attention to the lecture. donald trump committed a crime, not by changing business records, but by changing business records in order to conceal another more serious crime or to defraud somebody. let's take this in order. what is the more serious crime? we have no idea. bragg hasn't told us. no such more serious crime is listed in the indictment. donald trump has not been charged with another more
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serious crime. what we have of tonight is an indictment that does not allege specific violations of the law. unconstitutional but also f farcsical. bragg claims trump sent money to stormy daniels in order tore -- he tried to defraud voters. that turns out to be an actual crime. bragg is claiming donald trump committed a campaign finance violation. the problem is, he did not commit a campaign finance violation. nobody is claiming he did, including the federal election commission which has investigated this question. the case brought today, the 34 felonies, make no sense at all. it's ridiculous. but the political tact, which is what it is, it's likely to be
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effective. that's why the media supports it. watch. >> kind of an alliance between different groups that have a history of being discriminated against, whether jews or black americans or lbgqt who might come back to push back against the white christian nationalist assault on american democracy. >> you don't know what part this man might play in the future of our democracy. >> this campaign of disinformation is under mining our democracy. >> people will look back how we handled this issue of trump and how it affects their democracy. could be a major event. could be a big turning point one way or the other. >> the federal prosecutors said this is a crime that impairils our democracy. >> tucker: we're going to prevent the leading candidate
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from the other party for running for president. notice there was not one word about any crime here, meaning a violation of statute. so what is this really about? you may have heard msnbc's guest describe it as a larger offense to push back against the white christian nationalist assault on american democracy. case you're waiting to hear the real motive, there it is. let that sink in. does that sound like justice or tribal justice? that's exactly what it is. we're waiting for donald trump to speak about all this from palm beach, florida. in the mean time there's a legal process under way. thank you so much for coming on. unless we're misreading this, the actual crime is not listed
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in the indictment. how can that be? >> it's unreal, honestly, tucker. let's talk about what we can see in the indictment, which is the year and date. i'm no crazy brilliant human being, but i'm sure i know how to read a calendar. we have dates february 2017 for a few months. where was president trump in february 2017? in the oval office. okay. so what they're saying there were checks written to his former lawyer while he was in the oval office. that's in washington, d.c. just on its face what we do know from this, what he failed to put in was any factual basis. what we do know is he was sitting in the oval office. explain to me how that's campaign finance interference? how that affected the election. everyone knew about stormy in 2016. it makes no sense on its face which is probably why it's
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intentionally vague. >> tucker: well, sure. did companies commit federal crimes when they have their employees sign nondisclosure agreements? as every one of them does. probably not. if trump committed a crime and they were alleging it, i would not defend him. but this doesn't even approach the appearance of a crime, which is the scareiest part. this is just election interference. am i missing something? >> no, you're not missing anything. in order to have an effective nda, you should probably have some consideration, which is called money, right? >> tucker: well, yeah. >> we do this all the time. when you have somebody extorting you, which milwaukee pomerance said in his book he believes this to be. he lays this out. we have michael cohen, who was a convicted felon and liar, who was afraid of what was going to happen to his wife. we have mark pomeranz saying
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they couldn't bring charges. neither could the sec. alvin bragg stood up today and said he was bringing a state federal crime. it doesn't exist. it doesn't exist. federal crime, not a state crime. >> tucker: to hear it on msnbc, this hush money. how many women alleging sexual harassment or assault has nbc news paid off this year? spare us. please. i used to work there. great to see you tonight. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> tucker: so authorities all but shut down new york city for trump's arraignment today. hundreds of police officers showed up. they closed fdr drive. millions on securities because all these threats and protests. this was the scene outside the courthouse today.
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>> i'm black and i like violence. i'm an animal! i'm a black animal! yeah, baby. >> tucker: bill hemmer is one of the few news anchors we trust. you were in new york today. what did you see? >> tucker, good evening. manhattan was largely a mess today. big parts of the city shut down. that prompted this text followed by a tweet from eric trump. alvin bragg shut down the entire city, called up 38,000nypd officers, closed down the fdr drive and is spending $200 million of city funds for a 130,000nda. i never thought i would see this political corruption in our country. now, we cannot confirm that $200
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million number. seems high. but for comparison sake, we know the city spent $500,000 a day for security when trump was living at trump tower before he was sworn in six years ago. if we do go to trial, new york could see a huge bill. consider since last thursday, the nypd was told, no days off, everyone works. even the governor said the national guard was ready to keep the peace if needed. that was not necessary today. the judge ordered trump to be back on monday the 4th of december. there's no telling how high the bill will go if the trial goes forward. which brings us to the case itself. speaking with one of trump's attorneys today, he tells me they were happily surprised, his word, with the content of the indictment. he said it's not a terrible thing to have the credibility of michael cohen as a star witness. they've got a big problem with the leaks of the indictment before it went public, which is
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a felony, prison up to five years if convicted. trustee said his team wants to get his case before a judge soon and push for a dismissal. in his words it could be thrown out in a new york minute. we shall see. tucker? >> what a circus. thanks so much. keep in mind president trump will be ordered back to new york in december right before the republican primary just in case you were hoping to terrify swing voters into voting for an 82-year-old candidate. lots of leaks coming out of this grand jury. that's a felony. they appear to be coming from alvin bragg's office. someone might investigate this as long as you're bringing people up on 34 bookkeeping related charges. what exactly are the legal merits of the case against donald trump? a alan gershowitz joins us.
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as a legal matter, life long law professor, how would you assess these charges? >> part of me was hoping there would be a smoking gun. it would help the american system. but there's nothing here. here's the theory. the theory broken down is this. when donald trump paid $130,000 to make sure stormy daniels didn't embarrass me in front of his wife, his children, his business associates. when he paid the $130,000, he knew he had to immediately list the $130,000 and describe the reason he paid it as hush money to a former porn star in order to stop her from testifying about his adulterous affair. would anybody in the history of the world ever pay hush money if they knew they had to honestly disclose it? hush money goes back to alexander hamilton. it's one of the oldest
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phenomenon in history. i challenged bragg. he looked the american public in the eye and he said, i have prosecuted cases like this. it's our bread and butter, including sexual cases. da bragg, name one case where anybody has ever prosecuted somebody for not honestly disclosing the fact that he paid hush money to cover up a sexual matter. it's never happened. it would never have happened if this was not donald trump. this is part of get trump. this comes from a liberal democrat who maintains his right as a constitutional manner to vote against donald trump for the third time. i want to make sure the american public decides the next election, not da bragg, a democrat who promised, he promised his potential jurorists, vote for me and i will make sure i get trump. that isn't justice. >> tucker: i agree with you on the charges. if bragg alleged a murder spree,
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okay, we should look at this. alan dershowitz appreciate you coming on. it was a spectacle in new york. that was the entire point of it, to terrify voters in a general election from voting for trump. a judge let a photographer into the courtroom, in addition to sketch artists so they had pictures of trump in court. the same media outlets insisted they were very somber, approaching this situation with the respect it was due. >> my thought is it's a very sad day for america. >> if you don't see this as a sad day for america. >> so serious and solemn. >> sadness. i think we got to this point in america. >> it is a sad day for america. >> it is a serious night and a somber moment for our country. >> it should be a somber moment. i have a lot of friends on the left side of the spectrum who are doing a happy dance and i
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don't think that's appropriate. >> tucker: it's just not appropriate. steve crackour covers television. he is author of uncovered. look, the the falseness i think comes right through on the tube. there's one thing viewers can perceive immediately is whether the person is real. to say you're really sad about a day you've been praying for in your living room, that's not believable, right? >> no. they can barely contain the glee they have, just salivating. of course, they couldn't even get the mud done. they let the photographer into the courtroom because they couldn't get the mug shot they've been craving for months or years. this is all a symptom of the trump addiction that goes back eight years. they've been craving this moment. they have a very deep, sick love/hate relationship with
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donald trump. you look in new york. the streets of new york. when there's more media reporters than protesters, you know it's all a sham, all a circus. they can't even pretend. no one believes this is a serious thing. if they actually explain to the audience what this is, the audience would understand the entire coverage, the whole thing they built, is a house of cards. they have to pretend it's about democracy and racism when we know what it's all about, which is their deep love and hate for donald trump. >> tucker: they accused him of committing treason. it's really come down to his accountant put the wrong heading on a column? that's really what it is now? >> yeah, they can't say that. they also know, it's very clear they know this is not going to get donald trump in trail or even dropping out of the gop race. of course they want him running.
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this is exactly what they want. they want him beat up a little bit. actually the gop nominee, if he was really this threat to america, why would you want this person being one of two people to be the next president? this is only going to help him as it did in 2016. they learned nothing from what they did only seven years ago. >> tucker: if you believed in democracy, you would let voters make that choice. that's what a democracy is. steve krakauer, thank you. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: alvin bragg, manhattan da, charged the republican front runner with an indictment that doesn't even specify a crime. whether you hate trump, if you care about the system that we have lived under for hundreds of years, maybe you should say something about this. has anybody who didn't vote for trump, other than dershowitz
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said a word about it? congress woman, thank you very much for coming on. at what point does it become not about one guy, one candidate, and about the preservation of a justice system that all of us want to live under? >> the point that needs to happen the right now. this is a really sad day for our country. the bottom line is we have a democratic establishment that is so blinded by hatred of donald trump and love for power that they don't care about the country. they don't care about how their weaponization of our law enforcement against their political opponent is under mining the very foundation of our democracy our rule of law. they don't care about the serious precedence this is setting that fundamentally under minds that foundation, potentially for a very long time to come. i know some democrats who, in their heart, know that what's happening is wrong.
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i know there's probably a lot of democrats, independents watching your show who feel the same way. but they're so afraid to be targeted, called traitors, cast out. for those who love this country and understand the importance of preserving the rule of law, now is the time for courage to take a stand to defend that which we hold dear, to defend this country and to defend our democracy and have the courage to stand up not only for us today, but recognize there are long lasting consequences. if we do nothing it will be lost. >> tucker: if you and donald trump just signed on to the foreign policy, you would be in office. tulsi, appreciate your perspective, as always. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: republican front runner filing in. we saw his sons. let's get an overview of what's going on today. what are your thoughts as we
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await the former president? >> i'm gonna tell you, tucker. obviously, it is a sad day to see that spectacle, the circus in manhattan, where every single institution has failed. you have a rogue, run away prosecutor, putting politics before the law. the only person involved in any of this who has respected the law and the country is donald trump. he didn't have to go to new york today. in fact, he got a clear path from the governor of florida, that the governor of florida wouldn't allow him to be arrested in florida. he went because he had respect for the system. he goes in there and the judge tells him, doesn't put a gag order on him in the middle of an election but tells him, you watch what you say. i'm watching you. this is the fire alarm that voters pulled in 2016.
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this is our country that is broken. this is what donald trump has campaigned on. >> tucker: such a smart point. we're going to go now to donald trump from mar-a-lago in palm beach. he's being introduced. we're gonna take this live. we think this is a moment that's significant in our history. frankly, we think it's really interesting. we're going to bow out and turn it over to donald trump, once again running for president. ♪ god bless the usa ♪
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god bless you all. god bless you all. and i never thought anything like this could happen in america. never thought it could happen. the only crime that i have committed is to fearlessly defend our nation from those who seek to destroy it. from the beginning the democrats spied on my campaign. remember that? they attacked me with an onslaught of fraudulent investigations. russia, russia, russia, ukraine, ukraine, impeachment hoax number one. impeachment hoax number two. the illegal and unconstitutional raid on mar-a-lago right here. the lying to the fisa courts, the fbi and doj, relentlessly
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pursuing republicans. the unconstitutional changes to election laws by not getting approvals from state legislators. the millions of votes illegally stuffed into ballot boxes and all caught on government cameras. just recently the fbi and doj in collusion with twitter and facebook in order not to say anything bad about the hunter biden lap top from hell which exposes the biden family as criminals and which, according to the pollsters would have made a 17 point difference in the election result. we needed a lot less than that. about 16.9. would have been in our favor. not my favor. our favor. our country is going to hell. and we remember the 51
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intelligence agents who said hunter biden's lap top was russian disinformation. it didn't exist. it was russian disinformation. remember that? that was all confirmed strongly by the fbi when they all knew that it wasn't russian disinformation. and so much more. our elections were like those of a third world country. now this massive election interference on a scale never seen before in our country, beginning with the radical left george soros backed prosecutor alvin bragg of new york. who campaigned on the fact that he would "get president trump." i'm gonna get him. this is a guy campaigning. you want to get president trump at any cost before he knew anything about me. didn't know a thing about me. he was campaigning. as it turns out virtually
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everybody who has looked at this case including even hard core democrats say there is no crime and that it should never have been brought. never have been brought. everybody. even people that aren't big fans have said. they said, this is not the right thing to do. it's an insult to our country, as the world is already laughing at us for so many other reasons, like our open borders, our incompetent withdrawal from afghanistan where we left behind american citizens, $85 billion of the best military equipment in the world. lost 13 magnificent young lives and far too many to mention that are so badly hurt. loss of arms, legs, facial obliteration.
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the most embarrassing time in our country's history, in my opinion. then our give up on energy independence and even energy dominance. we were going to be dominant in six months, more than any other nation times two. we had this all three years ago. our raging crime statistics. if you look in democrat run city, numbers the likes of which we have never seen before. the open threats by various countries of the use of nuclear weapons. something never mentioned or discussed by outside nations during the trump administration which could very well lead under the biden administration's leadership to an all out nuclear world war 3. it can happen. we're not very far away. an economy that has been crippled by the biggest inflation we have seen in more
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than 60 years. a military that i used to defeat isis in four weeks. they said it would take four years. four weeks. to kill al baghdadi. has now gone woke by trying to indoctrine nate everyone down to the lowest ranking patriot. now they have stepped up their efforts by indicting the 45th president of the united states, who received -- [ crowd reacting [ 75 million votes, more than any sitting president in the thoeurs history of our country. and in the wings they've got a local racist democrat district attorney in atlanta who is doing everything in her power to indict me over an absolutely perfect phone call.
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even more perfect than the one i made with the president of ukraine. remember? kept saying, that's the perfect call. this one was more perfect. nobody said, sir, you shouldn't say that. or hung up in disgust because of something i inappropriately said. nothing was said wrong. in fact, at the end of the call, we agreed to continue our conversation about election fraud, election fraud specifically in georgia. many people on the phone includes lots of lawyers. nobody found anything wrong with that perfect call until a book promotion tour many months later. all of a sudden, i remember trump making a call. let's look at that. this fake case was brought only to interfere with the upcoming 2024 election. it should be dropped immediately. immediately. [ applause ]
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then you have a radical left lunatic known as a bomb thrower who is harassing hundreds of my people day after day over the boxes hoax. you know the boxes hoax, as we call it. just so everyone knows, i come under what's known as the presidential records act, which was designed and approved by congress long ago just for this reason. under the act, i'm supposed to negotiate with the national archives records administration, which as of this date is a radical left trouble making organization that red flags the constitution of the united states and the bill of rights as dangerous and triggering. can you imagine? this is what we have to deal with. but there is no criminality under the presidential records act. that is not what it's all about.
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we were negotiating in very good faith, proper way, in order to return some or all of the documents that i openly and in very plain sight brought with me to mar-a-lago from our beautiful white house, just as virtually every other president has done in the past. when fbi and doj officials were here, i told my lawyer to show them the very secure storage room in which they were locked. fbi's only question in writing was, could you put another lock on the door? we immediately complied. a lot different than the biden situation. next thing i know, we were raided by many gun toting fbi agents who took whatever they
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wanted, including my passports and medical records. everybody was in shock. nobody had ever heard of such a raid before. can't even believe it. who would think that could happen today? i immediately thought of the 4th amendment that protects against unreasonable search and seizure. but they did it anyway, because our justice system has become lawless. they're using it now, in addition to everything else, to win elections. apparently they're not looking at me through the view of the noncriminal presidential records act. they came up with a new one. this is a new one. they're looking at me through the espionage act. how does that sound? of 1917, where the penalty is death. even though that has absolutely nothing to do with openly taking boxes of documents of mostly
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clothing and other things to my home, which president obama has done, the bushes have gone, jimmy carter has done, ronald reagan has done. everybody's done it. in fact, hillary clinton 33,000 e-mails. that was okay. but nobody's done it like joe biden. this lunatic special prosecutor named jack smith. i wonder what it was prior to the change. who others have his ilk say he's even worse than they are. he's only looking at trump, yet joe biden took more documents. even removed many boxes to chinatown. do you believe that? got $10 million from china. where did that come from? guess they were banking on hunter's expertise. others stored in unsecured offices in pennsylvania and
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strewn all over his garage floor where his now very famous corvette is also stored. all over the floor including classified documents. but that's okay. perhaps most importantly, he has 1,850 boxes in delaware which he is refusing to give up. isn't that real obstruction? that's obstruction. as president i have the right to declassify documents and the process is automatic if i take them with me, it's automatic. biden was vice president. he had absolutely no right to declassify as vice president. he doesn't come under the noncriminal presidential records act. he comes under the very criminal federal records act for him. it's not going to matter because they don't follow the law, which has very severe penalties.
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he had classified documents that he took while he was a senator, which is absolutely inexcusable, and other senators, including democrats, are outraged. but he's not being harassed, hounded like the people who work for me are. in fact, they seem to have forgotten about his documents entirely, so many, thousands and thousands. it's okay. they like to say that i'm obstructing, which i'm not. i was working with nara very nicely til the raid on my home. but biden is obstructing it by making it impossible to get the 1,850 boxes, or explain why many documents were located in chinatown. can't explain it. why were they in chinatown? i don't know. lastly, i'm under investigation, this time a civil investigation, by another racist who also campaigned on "i will get
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trump." "i will get him." this was her campaign. never ran for office. "i will get him!" her name is leticia james. and she proclaimed while campaigning, quote, i look forward to going into the office of the attorney general every single day, suing him and then going home before she knew me. she announced what is fueling my soul right now is trump! and that she had her eyes on trump tower. those eyes are focused on trump. didn't know the young lady. she even issued her supporters an election promise that we're going to definitely sue him. we're going to be a real pain in the ass. he's going to know my name personally. eh. and then she claimed that i was
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an illegitimate president. think of it. with all we did, with all we did on energy, with all we did on the military, taxes, biggest tax cuts in history, biggest regulation cuts in history, right to try, people able to get drugs now that aren't approved. hopefully, you don't have that problem. [ applause ] leticia james vowed to use every area of the law to, quote, investigate president trump and his business transactions. those transactions are going to be investigated, she said. and that of his family. we're going after his family. and we're going after them hard. this is all before entering office and all before knowing anything at all about me. but she was going to get me! this is why, along with
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unrelenting crime, so many people and companies are leaving new york. she said that i falsified my financial statements, but in fact, we will prove that my financial statements were substantially more than we submitted, not less. in all cases, strong disclaimer clause in there which tells the institutions that may look at that if they want to not to rely on that. they've got a problem with their case. number one, i'm very under leveraged. i can't believe that. and i have very little debt relative to the value of assets. more importantly, not one bank has lost even $1. she was investigating the banks. i have very good lawyers. they didn't lose a dollar with us during this period of time. in fact, the banks we're talking
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about made almost $200 million off donald trump. they like me very much. we never missed a payment, never got a default notice, had a great relationship with them. built a great business with my family, past and present. [ applause ] i have a son here who's done a great job. i have another son here who's done a great job. [ applause ] and ivanka and baron will be great some day. he's tall. he's smart. i have a great family and
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they've done a fantastic job and we appreciate very much. they've gone through hell. so she's suing me over banks that weren't defrauded when she should be focused on violent crime that's driving people out of that state. this is a persecution, not an investigation. she's put our family through hell. it's cost hundreds of millions of dollars to defend. but our heads are held very, very high. they want to settle the case, but i want no part of that. so here we are now where we were today in a city that was so gracious four or five years ago. now we're there, there today, as you possibly read, with a local
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failed district attorney charging a former president of the kwraunited states for the f time in history where every legal pundit said there is no case. they kept saying there is no case. [ applause ] virtually every one. but it's far worse than that because he knew there was no case. that's why last week he delayed for a month then immediately took that back and threw this ridiculous indictment together that came out today. everybody said this is not really an indictment. there's really nothing here. my lawyers say, there's nothing here. they're not even saying what you did. the criminal is the district attorney because he illegally leaked massive amounts of grand jury information. [ applause ] for which he should be prosecuted, or at a minimum, he
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should resign. and alvin bragg's wife confirmed the report that claimed her husband has trump nailed on felony. she has since locked down her twitter account. his chief prosecutor who represented the democrats and crooked hillary clinton in a firm run by chuck shumer's brother robert. he quit the firm in order to go to work in the da office in order to get trump. can you imagine that, hillary clinton's lawyer. he quit as chief prosecutor because bragg didn't think he had a case. same guy that brought this ridiculous case. yet during his investigation, this prosecutor mark pomerance wrote a book saying all sorts of privileged things and has been strongly reprimanded.
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he was preprimanded. what he did was probably illegal. he was strongly reprimanded. even district attorney bragg was furious with him. they were having a tremendous fight. but hope is never lost because various prosecutors in the da's office also quit because they thought president biden was being treated very unfairly. how about that? isn't that great? i love them. i'd like to meet them. i'd thraoeubg meet them. the da's office even had a web page, meet the team of executives who have done this to president trump. that was the title. isn't that nice? they immediately had to take it down. meanwhile, overall crime in new york was up 30% last year, much more than that the year before. felony assault, robberies and
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burglaries all up by massive, massive numbers. not the same place that i knew. not the same place that you knew. this is where we are right now. i have a trump hating judge with a trump hating wife and family whose daughter worked for kamala harris and now receives money from the biden harris campaign, and a lot of it. who recently had another trial and this same judge told the fine man who worked for me for many, many years that if you admit your guilt, you will be in jail for 90 days. but if you don't and we go through a trial and you're found guilty, you're going away for ten years, maybe longer. which, for a 75-year-old man with a great family, really means life. what the prosecutors and judge did to that man i will never
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forget. right out of the old soviet union. that's where we are. they said you say anything about trump and you won't even have to serve the 90 days. you'll walk free. they say that to many of my employees. we have this jack smith lunatic threatening people every single day through his representatives. they're threatening jail terms. talk about trump and you'll go free. this is where we are as a nation. who would have thought. they can't beat us at the ballot box so they try and beat us through the law. that's the country in which we live, however. the usa is a mess. our economy is crashing, inflation is out of control. russia has joined with china. saudi arabia has joined with iran. china, russia, iran and north
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korea have formed together as a menacing and destructive coalition. would have never happened if i were your president. would never have happened. russia attacking ukraine. all of though lives would be saved. all of though beautiful cities would be stand. our currency is crashing and will soon no longer be the world standard which will be our greatest defeat, frankly, in 200 years. that will take us away from being even a great power. you took the five worst presidents in the history of the united states and added them up, they would not have done near the destruction to our country as joe biden and the biden administration have done.
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incredibly, we are now a failing nation. we are a nation in decline. and now these radical left lunatics want to interfere with our elections by using law enforcement. we can't let that happen. [ applause ] with all of this being said, and with a very dark cloud over our beloved country, i have no doubt nevertheless that we will make america great again. [ applause ] thank you very much. god bless you, and god bless america. thank you very much, everybody. thank you.
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>> tucker: donald trump, former president, now the front runner for the republican nomination in 2024 from his home in palm beach, florida, on the day he became the first ever former american president to be indicted, now arraigned on charges that seem not only weak, but in fact vaporous. they may not actually exist. trump seemed pretty much unrattled. if you haven't checked in with his and his public appearances, he was a lot looser than we last saw him, january of 2021. clearly setting the stage for a lot of political intensity. trump didn't beat around the bush at all. he called the independent counsel looking into the document case appointed by the
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attorney general of the united states, merritt garland. he called the counsel a lunatic about five times and eluded to the legal threats people around him have been getting which is pretty common. almost nobody talks about it, but just did. he spoke for about 25 minutes. will caine was watching carefully and joins us with what he believes is the situation. what did you take from that? >> i appreciate you asking me what the big take away was. i think donald trump came out loose, clear eyed. he quickly brought the scope beyond the prosecution there in new york. he said, the system has responded to donald trump like a foreign body. he is, to the system. it's flooded with antibodies to destroy trump. he quickly pivoted to talking about that broader effort, the
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witch hunt torque destroy trump. you think about it, tucker, the doj, the fbi, state ag, local prosecutor, the media, the military industrial complex, much of his own political party have all put forth a very well funded at this point eight to nine year investigation and effort to destroy trump. what have they come up with at the end of the day, tucker? a misdemeanor bookkeeping charge. that's it. people say in new york, if you can make it here, you can make it anywhere. people know there's a second stanza to that saying, but you better have impeccable bookkeeping once you make it. we can't promise you're going to get to work, but if you do make it without being shoved in front of the subway, once you do get there, you better have perfect record keeping. we're going to be on that like white on rice. and that is what they've been able to come up with so far in
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this witch hunt, which has spanned almost a decade, every institution of the federal government, most of the private sector in terms of corporate media and corporate america and what they've managed to conjure up so far is misdephaoerpb bookkeeping, tucker. >> tucker: i agree with that assessment. i feel guilty ever watching a politician speak and agreeing with it. makes me feel like a shell like everybody else on television. but in this case trump is right. this is nothing to do with his purported crimes, which are break. it has to do with his views, which are terrifying to the people who run our government, in a very undemocratic way. >> i was going to say, i appreciate your unwillingness to ever echo a politician's words. i share that sentiment. but we have to look beyond this, beyond the lens. we have to care about law and
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due process. anyone that does can quickly see that what we have here is abuse of a political system to manipulate an election. if you doubt it, i give you that the prosecution asked for their trial date to be january 2024 right when primary starts. >> tucker: exactly right. >> this is a political persecution. >> tucker: politicians are old, but some have kids. they're going to have to live here in a system that we want to function. will cain, thanks so much. >> thank you, tucker. tr a famous civil rights attorney, highly familiar with this case. we have to ask why did the judge allow cameras to take pictures. normally they do sketches. that seemed like part of a strategy, a political strategy, not a legal one. what did you make of that? >> i agree with you, tucker. if the democratic party is using this prosecution, which i
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believe they are, to influence the outcome of the next election, this photograph will be a prop in those campaign ads. it all seems to be really well targeted towards that. i would even say the judge not putting a gag order on both sides in this case is the same. by scolding the defendant and saying you better stay away from an imaginary line that i'm not going to draw for you, he is effectively killing his speech while at the same time not putting any constraints whatsoever on the district attorney who can go out and in fact completely ignore his oath to do justice and prejudge that the defendant is already guilty. he's said that multiple times in his remarks while leaking, even admitting he didn't have to articulate what the charges are. this entire proceeding seems to be clearly rigged in a political manner. somewhere along the way americans may have not noticed that the democratic party has
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basically turned into a gang of thugs. there is no concept of due process. there is no concept of even with a straight face attempting to tie the charges to something you can prove in a court of law that could stand up on appeal. if there were any more evidence than we already suspected, i think the way today's proceedings went really under scores the political nature of this. if i were to make a comment about the president's remarks, what is missing from that, this indictment is aimed at the american people. it's aimed is the president trump supporters. it's aimed at terrorizing people from supporting a particular candidate. it should remind all of us, if they can do this to a former president, they can concoct false charges against any american for political reasons. and that is a form of emotional terrorism. it should be terrifying to all americans that this is the
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current state of the law in new york city. >> tucker: should say that every public appearance going forward. thank you very much. we want to end tonight on the most elevated and wisest possible note. you already know who is coming next. professor, welcome. >> thank you. tucker, i think we are seeing war clouds gather abroad. i think united states economy, foreign policy, now that we have lost all credibility that we stored up. we have no moral credibility to lecture people about the democratic process. your guests spelled it out. they have an agenda that does not appeal to 51% of the people so they attack the process and the candidate. what we're seeing is not the end of it. tonight was the very beginning. this will go on to three
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prosecutors for a year and a half, with the intent of getting just enough empathy for donald trump that he will be nominated and then gag order and seeing him incarcerated to nullify his availability. it's the worst example of third world election tampering. they don't have a message, whether it's tearing up the state of the union or denying the speaker of the minority leader in the house an appointment or trying to threaten the filibuster to be ended or tax court or electoral college is all process because they don't have a message. we are in the middle of a revolution that we don't even know we're in. president trump said as much as he could. i would say in the next week we'll see a gag order levelled against him. this will go on. this cycle will go on for a year and a half. >> tucker: very quickly, is there not a single democrat in
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washington who cares about the country enough to say what you just said? >> i don't think so. i think some people like joe manchin have spoken out. there's no democratic party any more. it doesn't exist. it's not even a progressive party. it's a woke revolutionary movement. it has no popular support. throughout history such movements didn't need it. >> tucker: thank you so much. we'll be back tomorrow. here's sean. >> we begin with this fox news alert. manhattan da alvin bragg and his far left backers are up ending the rule of law in our country. they are weaponizing justice in our country over what is one of the weakest cases ever brought before a court. coming up full reaction, analysis with joe tacopina, bill hemmer, jonathan tur
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