>> beautiful shot for holy week, isn't it. >> no kidding. good luck as you look at fort lauderdale. thank you very much for joining us. >> right. make sure you run to the radio. we've got a huge show coming your way. >> not much to talk about in the news, right? >> maybe i'll run a repeat. >> so long, everybody. >> see you tomorrow. >> good morning, everybody. we know the indictment now, and questions piling up. former president trump pleading not guilty on a case authorities say is built on a legal house of cards. we'll go through it. good morning, everybody. i'm bill hemmer. >> good morning. i'm dana perino. welcome to "america's newsroom." this is like riding a bike. i think i cannin do it. do you have confidence in me? >> we'll tell people where you've been. >> former president trump appearing in a manhattan courthouse yesterday, pleading not guilty to 34 felony counts

of falsifying business records, typically just a misdemeanor, and district attorney's alvin bragg's strategy for elevating the charges is on shaky legal ground. >> here's the "new york post," calling the case trumped up. the paper writes, is that it? bragg's historic cases versus don falls flat. >> meanwhile the da defending his controversial decision to bring a case against a former u.s. president. >> your predecessor took a hard look at this case and decided not to charge it. federal prosecutors took a hard look at this case and decided not to charge it. do you believe you have new evidence that led you to decide to charge this, or why now? >> >> we've had additional evidence. this is the business capital of the world. we regularly do cases involving false business statements. the bedrock, in fact the basis for business integrity at a well-functioning business marketplace is true and accurate

record-keeping. that's the charge that's brought here. falsifying new york state business records. >> how strong is the case? former federal prosecutor trey gowdy has analysis. we begin back at the courthouse, lower manhattan, to begin our program today. brian, good morning. >> bill, good morning. former president trump did not say a word to the press in new york yesterday making his first court appearance as a court defendant, but last night in a speech the leading presidential candidate attacked the merits of the case and the credibility of the judge. >> there's no case. they kept saying there's no case. virtually everyone -- this is where we are right now. i have a trump-hating judge with a trump-hating wife and family, whose daughter worked for kamala harris, and now receives money

from the biden-harris campaign. >> the attack on justice john merchan after prosecutors are concerned trump is inciting violence. the judge made clear everything is on the table, and certain language used was not justified by trump's frustration as argued by his lawyers. trump pleaded not guilty to 34 felony counts of falsifying business records, one charge for each business invoice, ledger and check. trump is accused of falsifying between february and december 2017 linked to hush money payments to adult film star stormy daniels. in new york state, falsifying business records with the intent to defraud is a felony only if it's proven trump was trying to conceal another crime. yesterday bragg made the case trump defrauded voters in the 2016 election by falsifying

business records to hide alleged affairs and damaging stories. >> new york state election law, what makes it a crime to conspire to promote a candidacy by unlawful means. i further indicated a number of unlawful means, including more additional false statements, including statements that were planned to be made to tax authorities. >> justice merchan ordered the next court hearing to be december 4th. he ordered that the former president must be here in person. december 4th is just a month before the republican primaries. >> that's right. >> bill? >> let's try in trey gowdy. look at the "wall street journal" headline to comment as well. what's missing in the trump indictment? for the charges to be felonies, alvin bragg needs a second crime. what is that? can you answer that? or maybe you can't, because there is none. also talk about why december 4th. why does it have to take that

long to get this going? >> dana, indictments are not supposed to be mystery novels. they're supposed to put you on notice of exactly what the state says you have done. so here we are, 34 counts later, and the three of us certainly don't know what that additional crime is. so there's a legal problem with this indictment. i think there's also a factual problem. even if this were just a misdemeanor, you still have to have the intent to defraud. even if it's a misdemeanor. so you have michael cohen, who to quote dierks bentley, who i know you like, dana, did time in the slammer. you got michael cohen. you got a guy that used to run "the national enquirer." if you're trying to figure out which hollywood star had a baby with an alien, he's exactly the right witness. if you're trying to figure out whether trump did this to protect his presidential bid, or how about to protect his marriage? so you could have michael cohen

versus melania trump in this trial on the facts. so you've got the facts of the law, then the jurisprudence, the equities. it's the wrong prosecutor. this guy struggles to find something that he thinks is worthy of the full weight of his office. he says he's done this on other cases. what are they? give us the other times that you have prosecuted someone for this dollar amount, and this alleged falsification. yesterday was underwhelming. that's not just from people that love president trump. that's from people who are agnostic about him. it was underwhelming. >> when was the last time you had "the washington post," mitt romney, jeb bush, agreeing on the same page in america. that's extraordinary. trey, you laid it out, indictments shouldn't be a mystery novel.

in the press conference, the question came up several times on behalf of the media. it runs about 35 seconds. let's listen and then we'll analyze it. >> there were 34 false business records. aan indictment does not strictly say what the crimes were. we are assuming perhaps they might be election related. >> the indictment doesn't specify because the law does not so require. i further indicated a number of unlawful means, including more additional false statements, including statements that were planned to be made to tax authorities. i'm not going to go into our deliberate process on what was brought. the charges brought were the charges that were brought. the evidence and the law is the basis for the decision. >> parse the language. what does that mean? >> it's an essential element of the offense. so you actually have to prove it. it is an element of the crime.

this intent to conceal the commission of another crime. what is that other crime? what he's telling you is, bill, i'll let you know, later on. i don't know how you define -- how you defend yourself if you don't know what that additional crime is. it's weak. >> could it be david peckhard? "wall street journal" says the da's statement of facts, this is superfluous window dressing. you know what prosecutors do sometimes. they tack on an additional charge. they look back in hindsight and say that's a good thing we did that. >> yeah. yeah, you know what, though, bill, having the same line and repeating it 34 times is a milli vanilli song. i mean, that's what they do. it makes the song long but doesn't make it good. it is the same time repeated 34 times. your star witnesses are the head of the "national enquirer" and

michael cohen. good luck. the good luck with that. >> all right. >> trey gowdy, i need to find a prize again for anybody that quotes dierks bentley lyrics in their answer. you win the day. thank you very much. >> first time, first blush? >> i was away, watching from afar. my observation was that this is -- it just looked like america had lost its mind a bit. i think yesterday because there was nothing new it felt like -- dorm that night that everybody stayed up late to watch rachel maddow's show, because they had a explosive tax document, and she does a build-up, it lasts forever, and it turns out it was nothing. this is nothing. this is very serious in terms of the president having to go through this, america looking at this, but when you have all those people agreeing that this case is so weak you have to wonder what alvin bragg was thinking. >> good question there. right before the show started, we said, what's going to surprise us next? yesterday was quite a day here

in new york. what surprises us? i don't know. we've seen it all it appears. >> yeah. >> nine minutes past the hour. chicago voters are staying the course, electing another progressive in the race for mayor. far left brandon johnson has won. he squeaked out a narrow victory over the moderate paul vallas. johnson putting the priority on social programs and new taxes to keep the streets safe. >> a city that's truly safer for everyone by investing in what actually works, to prevent crime. that means youth employment, mental health centers, ensuring that law enforcement has the resources to solve and prevent crime. >> well, we have the story in chicago. garrett? >> bill, this was a clear choice for voters on how they want the next mayor to address the city's rampant crime, and they didn't

choose the law and order candidate. they elected the progressive teachers union organizer, brandon johnson, who beat out paul vallas by nearly 3%. johnson previously advocated for defunding the police. his public safety plan is even further to the left of mayor lori lightfoot. he wants to raise taxes by $800 million and put that money toward social services in the city's most dangerous neighborhoods. last night he said he hopes his progressive policies will spread to cities across the country. >> tonight is the beginning of a chicago that truly invests in all of its people, a city that's truly safer for everyone by investing in what actually works to prevent crime. let's take this bold progressive movement around these united states of america. >> those who didn't support johnson are now concerned about the future of chicago.

on the economic front, will his tax increases drive more businesses to leave the city? will his public safety plan make the city even more dangerous than it already is? >> to the left of left political ideology that says that police need to be defunded, that you need more social programs, that you need to focus on root causes as opposed to holding people accountable. all of those things don't bode well, unless he's willing to listen to voices like mine and others more in the middle. >> johnson takes office next month. joining him will be a number of new progressive members of the city council expected to help pass his agenda into law. >> he'll stay the course. good luck with that. thank you, garrett. dana? >> in wisconsin, democratic-backed judge winning a crucial seat on the state supreme court, giving liberals their first majority in 15 years. access to abortion was the main issue. watch. >> as you all know, our state motto is forward.

>> today i'm proud that we are going to be able to live up to our motto. our state is taking a step forward to a better and brighter future where our rights and freedoms will be protected. >> left-leaning judges will now control the highest court in the battleground state for the next two years. so that was a -- i think we don't know yet what the significance is of this loss. we'll have a chance to talk to rona mcdaniels, the chairwoman of the republican national committee in the 10:00 hour. you do the board on election night, wisconsin is a big one. >> the turnout in dane county, where madison is, the university of wisconsin, was enormous for democrats, higher than 80%. the turnout in milwaukee county, which holds milwaukee city, was tremendous for democrats, higher than 70%, and that's how they

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a storm system pummeling the midwest, unleashing baseball-size hail and tornadoes, including a rope tornado spotted over central iowa. the storms ripping apart homes and knocking out power to tens of thousands of people. the system is now bearing down on missouri. will multiple casualties record there. we are keeping a close on this. we will update you as we learn more. >> seems like every week we're getting one. the taiwanese president gets set to meet with kevin mccarthy. we're live at the capitol with more on this visit. grady, hello. >> hi, bill. suffice it to say china is not happy about this meeting between house speaker kevin mccarthy and taiwan president tsai, that meeting taking place in california, but chinese state media reports the peoples

liberation army will respond similarly to when then speaker nancy pelosi went to taiwan last year. the you'll remember that visit was met with air and military drills around the island. the white house says there's no need for that kind of response this time. >> president tsai herself has made this transit about six times before. again, there should be no reason to -- for china to overreact here. i'll leave it at that. there's no -- you know, there's no change to our one china policy. >> meantime house republicans sent a letter this week to the head of homeland security, alejandro mayorkas, expressing concerns that chinese-made cranes at u.s. ports could be used to collect sensitive info about u.s. military operations. the letter reads, if an adversary exploits the operational technology system of these cranes, port operations could completely shut down,

suspending all commercial activity, which would also disrupt our nation's military and commercial supply chains. to that end, one of the republicans who sent this letter to mayorkas is proposing a bill that would ban chinese-made software used to operate cranes at u.s. ports. bill? >> thank you, grady. dana? >> the biden administration's green dream targeting the trucking industry. half of all heavy trucks sold in california must be electric by 2035. truckers are expected to foot the bill. joining us the ceo and president of the american trucking association chris spear. chris, one of the things that happens, is that california does this, and this happens with cars as well, and then all the manufacturers have to comply, because you don't just sell cars in california, but that happens to be one of the biggest markets. >> absolutely, dana. thanks for having me on. what we're focused on here is

the timeline that california has for doing this. 2035 is just too soon. the prevalence of infrastructure, the amount of power that has to flow through this infrastructure, where is that going to come from? where are the minerals that go into the batteries, hydrogen facilities. those are all things that take a lot of time and expense to put in place for this to be possible. we want to make certain that fox viewers are aware of the decision last week by the biden administration to basically hand the keys over to california to regulate our nation's environmental laws. so by doing so, california is now going to set the pace for the entire country. that's something that people need to be aware of when they're going to the store, fueling their vehicles, how much they're going to pay is going to be impacted by this. >> here's governor newsom. he says california is leading the way, saying that we are leading the charge to get dirty trucks and buses, the most polluting vehicles off our streets, and other states and countries are lining up to follow our lead around the world. i was just away. one of the articles i read was that one of the european

countries is pushing back, saying we can't meet the deadlines that you're pushing on us. it's not they're against more clean-burning trucks and tractors, they want that, too, but they're saying they can't possibly to doing it. now they're ratcheting that back. could that happen here? >> absolutely. california would be the first to experience that. it's going to fail in california. the timeline and targets are way too aggressive. they don't have the infrastructure in place. they don't have the amount of power. to power all vehicles, cars and trucks today would take 40% of u.s. electric capacity. where's that power going to come from, especially in california, where they already have rolling blackouts. this is an aggressive timeline that simply can't be met. the repercussions to inflation, the economy, the supply chains, certainly our industry to meet this goal is really a mad dash to zero that is quite frankly unnecessary. our industry has been really at the table for 40 years.

60 trucks today emit what one truck emitted in 1988. we've already removed 98.5% of everything that comes out of the tailpipe. we feel like we've been a good partner. for this? , to hand the casey over to california, it kicks us to the curb. it's a disappointment, and will have huge economic repercussions across the country. >> the cost concern, one is the average cost of a traditional semitruck is $150,000. the average cost for an electric model goes from $300,000 to $500,000. consumers will end up paying that. just for the trucking industry, all that you went through with the supply chain, remember, we were all going to back the truckers, make sure that they had more support. do the truckers feel this administration continues to, you know, kick them in the teeth? >> we thought we were doing great work on the ports,

alleviating congestion, getting goods to the shelves before christmas last year. we thought we were behaving in good faith with the administration. to see this announcement, it's not unprecedented to see a waiver, but something this significant, this impactful on the nation's economy, is truly a disappointment. and so, you know, we look at this cost parity between this equipment that we're now being forced to buy over the next 12 years, it's just not there. i mean, most companies in california that are moving the freight are less than six trucks. so they're not going to be able to afford a $500,000 electric tractor, or even a hydrogen one, if they're available. the minerals that go into these 2500-pound batteries, two of them per tractor, it's not coming from china, and i doubt we'll get it from a 6-year-old mining it in congo. if we mine in the u.s., we may have a shot, but i don't see that happening either, certainly not under this administration.

these are challenges nobody wants to talk about. over the next 10 years this is going to have serious economic repercussions if we don't have a realistic timeline and target. >> message received loud and clear. chris spear, thank you. >> i've been to i don't know how many false active deadly aggression calls. something told me it was -- it was time to really get to this one. >> first on the scene at the nashville school shooting nine days ago, breaking their silence. first time for these cops. three state democratic lawmakers let a rush on the tennessee capitol building in protest, being threatened with expulsion from their office. that will happen? tennessee state speaker cameron sexton answers that coming up. plus, a detained "wall street journal" reporter meeting with his lawyers in moscow for the first time as the u.s. pushes to secure his freedom.

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>> police in tennessee reportedly find a suicide note, more guns and ammunition inside the home of the national shooter, saying audrey hale had legally purchased seven games and kept them in her house. she fired over 150 rounds in a school, killing six people. the police who arrived at the scene, took the shooter down, are speaking out for the first time. >> once in that hallway, the smell of gunpowder was in the air. doing what our training tells us to do in those situations, following the stimulus, all of us stepped over a victim. i to this day don't know how i did that morally, but training is what kicked in. we then proceeded continually to go to the shots of gunfire.

then once we got near the shooter, the shooter was neutralized. >> three adults and three children died in this massacre. the three young victims are only 9 years old. >> a striking comment he just made right there. waiting eight or nine days to talk. >> they were reluctant to. they are quiet heroes. they'll struggle with this as well. >> the moment we saw that video from the body cam across our computers last week, wow. >> yeah. >> that's the way to handle it. and they did. okay. to tennessee we go now. three local tennessee democrats pulled from committee assignments. they could be out of the house of representatives altogether for taking part in a protest at the capitol last thursday. demonstrators stormed the building, calling for more gun control after the nashville school shooting rampage. cameron sexton is the state speaker of the house in tennessee. he's with me now. sir, good morning to you. will be a vote on the floor of

the house. how's that going to go? >> yes, bill. thank you for having me. well, we'll see how it goes. they have their chance for due process. they'll have the ability to make statements. we'll have the ability to ask them questions. but i just want to make sure that everybody knows. this has nothing to do about the protest outside the house chamber or protest outside the capitol. this is about these three members' actions on the house floor, how they shut us down and led protests from the house chamber to those on the balcony. >> how will you vote, sir? >> i will vote to expel these three members. you know, in a workplace you have rules that you break. sometimes the rules put a letter in your file. sometimes the rules that you break have you get fired. in this instance, this rises to the level, i believe, of their actions on the house floor to be expelled. >> one of them is justin jones, a democrat. here's what he said. he said, it's morally insane that a week after a mass shooting took six lives in our community, number two, guys,

house republicans' only response is to expel us for standing with our constituents to call for gun control. what's happening in continues is a clear danger to democracy across this i guess that. republicans have the edge there, commandingly. 75-24. are they going to get kicked out? >> let me tell you, based on his statement, let me just tell you about representative jones. he's trying to make this about the protesters, trying to make this about what people were protesting about. their voices were not silenced. this has nothing to do with anything that happened outside the house chamber. the three individuals stormed up to the well where you speak from, without being recognized, did not display decorum. they disrupted the proceedings, where they had to shut down, pulled out a megaphone and started to lead the balcony in protest for the next 35-40 minutes. their actions on the house floor rises to the level of expulsion.

we cannot allow for these types of things to take place in the people's house, led by members on the house floor. he can describe it how he wants, but there's plenty of video out there showing what they did on the house floor. >> we just heard from the police a moment ago, for the first time since that deadly shooting. where is the manifesto? >> umm, the manifesto, my understanding is law enforcement still has it. they're looking through it. it will be released at some point in the future, but they have not given a date. >> does it exist? >> no. there's manifestos, yes. >> there is? there are? why have we not seen them? >> they're still under investigation. they're still trying to determine the motive. my understanding, when they talked to us, at some point they will turn over the manifestos. >> you just said something that

piqued my interest there, because we had the notebooks yesterday. how much is there? >> well, i mean, there's a lot of information there from my understanding. owe it will be interesting. one of the things that we have been told that has been reported is that this individual, who had severe mental illness issues, this female, the school was not the primary target. there was another target that's been reported in the media about being a mall, but she did not go through it because there was too much security at that location. >> you described revisions. what that means, i don't know. hopefully we find out soon. cameron sexton, thank you. >> i mean that, revisions on her. >> thank you, sir, for your time, coming on today. >> thank you. >> iowa basketball super caitlin clark defending lsu rival angel reese, this after sunday's

heated title matchup that drew record viewership and saw lsu hoist its first trophy ever. reese took some heat for trash-talking and guest chugger toward clark in the final seconds, but clark says that's part of the game, and that reese played it perfection. she also downplayed remarks by first lady jill biden, who said both teams should visit the white house. >> i don't think runner-ups usually go to the white house. lsu should enjoy that moment for them. congratulations obviously. they deserve to go there. >> which is a very classy response. caitlin clark will probably go to the white house one day, i have a feeling. >> i compared them the other day, caitlin clark, to larry bird, and reese to charles barkley. this is a great rivalry. it's going to be awesome next year to watch. it's great for the sport, too. the wnba has two legitimate stars en route to that league. >> certainly do. >> all right. watch that. watch this. new details on the condition of that detained "wall street journal" reporter evan gershkovich. lawyers who met with him

yesterday says he -- say rather he's in good health. we're on the story from the beginning, and we're in london. >> the 31-year-old american journalist now entering week two of russian captivity. yes, we're seeing new developments and new bits of information. remember, evan gershkovich is charged by the russians with espionage, which he denies, which could include a 20-year-old jail sentence. his lawyers got to see him at his moscow prison. he's in good health. a russian prison monitor had said he's being held alone in a, quote, quarantine cell. amid growing signs that the u.s. is set to label his arrest as an unlawful detention, opening up new channels, diplomatic, political, legal, to try to get him out. as international pressure builds as well, we hear that diplomats want to raise gershkovich's arrest in the un security council. interesting, because this month

russia holds the presidency of that body. and what does vladimir putin want out of this? another prisoner swap or a swipe at the west amid his war in ukraine? he told us a short time ago, a group of ambassadors in moscow today, including the american ambassador, that russia and u.s. relations are in a deep crisis. bill, again, one week since evan gershkovich's arrest. the "wall street journal" is asking folks to mark it at 10:00 a.m. eastern time, just about 20 minutes from now, with what it calls a social media storm, asking for tweets and other online posts to be sent about him. they're suggesting the #istandwithevan. very good cause. >> greg, thanks. >> will a criminal trial collide with a political calendar as the 2024 presidential race heats up? how former president trump's arraignment could intercept the campaign trail. plus, three florida teenagers

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>> an investigation picking up steam. authorities say three shootings that left three separate teenagers over several days may be connected, and they're focusing on a so-called wannabe gang. the sheriff is focusing on suspects, but let's go to the new york city newsroom with details. >> dana, good morning. this case started 60 miles northwest of orlando with a gruesome discovery of a

16-year-old girl, shot in the head, left to die on the side of the road. she was taken to the hospital where she did die earlier this week. friends identify her as laila silvernail, described as the definition of a team player and an amazing athlete. last thursday night, officer say layla was shot and left near a dumpster on a country road. less than a mile away on friday morning, a 17-year-old teen boy was found dead with a gunshot wound. and then officers found layla's car 9 miles away submerged in a lake. inside the car, there was a third teen girl shot and killed. the sheriff says the three victims were friends and were together before they died. he says gang activity may be to blame, and at this point it looks like there are multiple suspects. the sheriff says he has assigned 15 detectives to this case, currently combing through digital and forensic evidence. dana? >> the sheriff is with us now.

sheriff, good morning to you. thanks for your time. >> good morning, bill. >> you got a good lead? >> we have a lot of leads. they're getting us in the right direction. hopefully soon we'll have a resolution to this. >> okay. what is a wannabe gang. >> well, it's a loose term that i use, because they're not the typical gangs that you see. it's more of a neighborhood gang. you know, what we in law enforcement see as gangs as the typical -- like in the 1920s, the mob, it had structure, organization, the boss, and all of their lower ranking individuals. so these types of gangs, they're not to that form, they're not to that level, so they're just in neighborhoods is what they are. it usually kids is what it involves. >> you say this is not a case of a serial killer. you sticking with that right now, sheriff? >> absolutely. yeah, absolutely not. you know, that was one of the rumors that came out in the

beginning on social media. i had to address it. there is no evidence, no information that would even suggest that it is a serial killer. these individuals were together. everything points as to it was all the same event, just they happen to be in different locations. >> one girl was heavily involved in softball. they were all students. the girl playing softball was taught at home. what more can you tell us about these three? >> you know, a typical teenager. you know, as a parent myself, kids enjoy life. they go out there, they play games. you know, one of the 16-year-old females, she was well into faisoftball playing. she was a homeschooler. you know how school districts work. homeschoolers are permitted to be part of the sports program in the public school districts. they were known. they were well known.

they were out there playing, just being kids, being teenagers. >> yeah, wow. what a loss. your first answer you said you expect a resolution soon. does that mean, sheriff, an arrest? >> oh, yes. i'm counting on the arrest. that's what i'm looking for, because justice will be brought. justice will be brought for the victims and for the families. and, you know, i wish i could give more information, bill, on the cases, but i remind everybody the integrity of the case for us is vitally important, so that when we do present it in a court, it does go before a jury, we have everything that we need to seal a case up. >> sounds to me like you've got suspects in mind already. >> yes, we do. we have a few of them. >> okay. is an arrest imminent? >> pardon me? >> is an arrest imminent? >> yes. >> wow.

sheriff, we will stay in touch with you. maybe we'll get news on that today. >> hopefully so. i'll be glad to come back on and show you the individuals we arrested for this crime. >> i'm out of time, sheriff. thank you for your time. good luck. >> thank you. >> republicans in the house calling for an audit at state education departments over the use of covid relief money meant to help students recover from learning loss after pandemic shutdowns. plus, president biden meets tech experts on the risks and opportunities of artificial intelligence platforms. one former tech exec, who has founded his own company, joins us with his take. >> tech companies have a responsibility in my view to make sure the products are safe before making them public. and we would experience turbulence. i would watch the flight attendants. if they're not nervous, then i'm not going to be nervous. financially, i'm the flight attendant in that situation.

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of ai systems pose a risk to you and me. we're live at the white house, where they took up the issue yesterday. how are they responding, edward? hello. >> with conversations. yeah, hello, bill. a study from the center for ai safety could push artificial intelligence going for growth, possibly turning on its creators. the president met with his counsel of advisors on science and technology yesterday. a big part of the discussion was artificial intelligence. >> and so tech companies have a responsibility, in my view, to make sure products are safe before making them public. social media pa has already shown us the harm that powerful technologies can do without the right safeguards in place. >> but he gave no timetable for the guardrails, or if there should be a pause on more powerful ai technology, so i pressed the white house press secretary. >> critics are saying the president has been late on

tiktok, to act against tiktok. what's the time frame, then, for guidelines on artificial intelligence or a pause on more powerful artificial intelligence? is it going to move quickly? >> i don't have a time frame to share with you. as i mentioned, there's a comprehensive process, mentioned this last week, which is underway to figure out how to have a cohesive federal government approach to this. and this is incredibly important. >> now, the author of that study i talked about at the top says the president needs to get in front of this emerging technology before the issues exceed the benefits. >> we need to address risks proactively, not wait for the catastrophe, not address them retroactively. a lot of the governmental institutions are probably too slow to deal with this ai issue currently. >> artificial intelligence technology is becoming cheaper for companies to get invested in and research in, and more firms are starting to do that. bill? >> all right, edward.

coming up in the half hour, an interesting guest on this. okay? he warned us years ago about the dangers of social media. we'll talk to him coming up. thank you, edward. nice to see you at the white house. thank you. dana? >> sensitive meeting with the president of taiwan here in the united states, sparked heightened tensions with china. speaker of the house kevin mccarthy will be sitting down with taiwan's president later today, along with a bipartisan group of lawmakers. chinese officials are calling the meeting a provocation and red line that must not be crossed. welcome to a brand-new-hour of "america's newsroom." i'm dan dan. >> i'm bill hemmer. one hour down. >> yes. >> still feeling good? >> you got it. >> welcome back. great to have you. >> thank you. >> the meeting at the reagan library in simi valley, california, is the highest level meeting with taiwan on u.s. soil. already today's sit-down is drawing strong reaction out of china, including threats o