that's who i am and what i believe. i'm willing to talk to others and see if they're interested. >> neil: all right. we're watching closely. you caused quite a ruckus there doing this. now a republican representative in north carolina. it happens now and then. here's "the five." . re's "the five." hello, everyone. i'm dana with the judge. it is 5:00 in new york city, this is "the five." >> manhattan da is facing backlash, and some of that criticism is coming from unlikely places. trump pleading not guilty to 35

records of falsifying business records. >> i never thought anything like this could happen in america. virtually everybody that has looked at this case including rhinos and hardcore democrats say there is no crime and that it should never have been brought, everybody said this. it is not really an indictment, there is nothing here. my lawyers came to me and said there is nothing here they're not even saying what you did. >> a number of legal analysts questioning the foundations of the case against trump calling it weak and a overreach. they point out that the indictment is facing a key requirement, that would be the crime that would make it a felony. some in the media think the case will struggle to hold up. >> what is the crime that prosecutors are alleging es escalating this to a crime? >> if this is the only pebble

being thrown at donald trump, it is very small. >> where is the beef? i talked to a lot of lawyers, none of them lawyers or trump supporters, and they said it is a little thin. >> in terms of a case being brought against a former president it's a little under whelming. >> da bragg is sticking to his guns as they blast his role of felonies in manhattan. >> they're felony crimes in new york stay no matter who you are. we cannot and will not normal ize felonies. we will make sure that everyone standing equal before the law. no amount of money, no amount of power change that's enduring american principal. >> as the news settled in, what are your thoughts now? >> i woke up this morning and i said maybe i missed something.

but i didn't miss a thing, it was just a bunch of papers that are stapled together if is unsufficient on it's face, in terms of the statute of limitations, if you look at the first several counts they're in february of 2017 which is beyond five years. i think it is the first 15 or 20 wouldn'ts that are outside of the five year statute of limitations. we don't know what the crime is that they are come planing about, and we should. i mean an indictment is supposed to illustrate what it is that the defendant did. and if it is a federal crime, bragg doesn't have jurisdiction to prosecute that. and if it is a state crime, which is the only thing that we got insight into yesterday what is the underlying crime, he said there is a new york election

law. i spent two hours on it today. the new york election law only relates to campaigns for public office in the state of new york. he cannot try to boot strap a new york state election law violation to raise this to a felony. state election laws do in the apply to a presidential race. noise that it is selective prosecution. it is duplicitous, there is four counts for one act. did he intend to do it because it wanted to keep it for his wife and family, and the main witness is a perjurier. when he opens his couth you have to assume he is lying. the issue of the jurisdiction and the statute of limitations and the, you know, the factual insufficiency, there is nothing in there that a defense attorney can prepare for. it is absurd. and let me say one thing about

alvin bragg who made a fool of himself. we cannot and will not normalize serious criminal conduct. people are being beaten, stabbed, and brutalized in new york city. felons reduced to misdemeanors in is a pathetic man not connected to reality. the thing that i have a great concern about is he not specifying the under lying crime because in the event that his case gets dismissed, because if he is any kind of lawyer at all he knows this is an insufficient indictment, is he giving georgia and maybe florida the ability to prosecute that crime that might be applied to them without being barred by double jeopardy. he could say i'm not identifying

it unless i have to. and that will give georgia and florida a chance to relitigate that issue that i haven't told you about. >> alvin bragg bringing republicans and democrats together to agree on something? >> first, i'm glad you're back. >> i'm glad to be here at the table. the judge raises a point she raised yesterday and i thought it was a very smart point and we still don't have an answer to it and the fact that you continue to raise it is important. i reread it, too. i thought there would be more than there was. what i did notice, and i think it is important to note and we talked about it yesterday, it is clear that alvin bragg and his team believe that david packer, the american media ceo, they own the "national inquirer" is as

important as michael cohen is. he believes the underlying crime is that he believes former president trump intended to mislead the tax authorities in new york with the falsification of some of the business records. we can argue over whether or not that is a big enough crime to indict a former president, but on the books you're allowed to do that. i thought there would can have been more here. what i wish would stop happening, and i understand those of us on television and the president's lawyers are entitled to their opinions, i wish the threats and the attacks on the judge, the judge's family, alvin bragg personally and his family, that has no place in this. and i hope that on either side we stop seeing that. our judicial system works.

president trump's attorneys can final to dismiss this. based on what they have seen in the indictment they may have grounds to do it. one could make an argument on that side as well, i would hope those against this case and for the president allow the lpt process to unfold, and if hoe is not guilty, he will be found not guilty bay jury of his peers. >> if you have a flimsy charge it backfires. and the consequence social security that you tear in deeper divisions. >> yeah, way to go, alvin. the democrats are convinced he is a criminal. murder, rape, espionage, whatever. and they're guilty of it. and they were waiting for him to say what donald trump is guilty

of and they didn't get it and they could not process it. they were disappointed they didn't get the mug shot, the handcuff shot, they didn't get the cameras in the courtroom. the democrats are driven crazy by the fact that he is innocent until proven guilty. they have been trying to create a crime that he is guilty of. so it was creative. he takes $130,000 and chops it up into 34 felony counts and he concocts this legaler thissy -- legal theory is juris prudence.

everything happened in 2017. so let me understand this, alvin, you're saying he in 2017 was trying to influence the 2016 election. you cannot do that. alvin bragg is dumb, the jury is taints, the judge is a democrat donor and the charges will not stick. trump paid more taxes. >> i said all along he is innocent, and i don't, i'm accepting this. >> this piece i loved said "i will take these charges seriously when the democrats go back and take and then a list of all of the things in a big list that the democrats said was not a big deal." >> i did not read that, you

spent two hours in election law, i did two-and-a-half. a couple things. think it is hysterical that the times being before or after the election, they think to kill these stories was to donald trump's benefit. how many times have you said get in the car but before we decide who to vote for, get the inquirer and find out what is in there. if it's not in the ir kwirer i won't know who to vote for. it was unbelieve tobl flip around and see people look at this case and no one could get any traction. and i'm somewhat in all seriousness side because if every one of the sayses that are more serious, everyone has point and you know how long it takes for them to mature? years. for the next three years we're going to be caulking more about

the cases than the porder, ukraine, the $4.75 for gas coming this summer, and i think it will over whelm the primaries. i'm curious to see if there is a strategy for someone to beat trump knowing he will take all of the news cycles away from people. >> this is something i want to throw out. how do you set a motion date of september 4th. don't have enough fingers for that. they're trying to push it toward, you know, the primaries. >> it is $200 million to bring trump in. >> one point that has not been made is the xavrp is horrendous.

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it is official, chicago lost it's mind. the windy city electing far left democrat brandon johnson as mayor. instead of the police union backed candidate paul balis. he is supported by bernie sanders and is in the pocket of the powerful teachers union. he ran on a plan to defund the

chicago police and he thinks his win will embolden progressives nationwide. >> this campaign has always been about building a better stronger safer chicago. for all of the people of chicago. let's take this bold progressive movement around these united states of america. chicago we can show the country, we can show the world what is possible when we stand on our values as one people. >> it could not come at a more dangerous time. there were four chicago shootings on election day yesterday. and total crime is up a whopping 46% so far this year. his plan to take on chicago's crime crisis, fund more social workers instead of cops. no wonder "newsweek" called him the police's new nightmare and it sounds like he wants to go to

war with the police union. >> we limit our conversations around toughness and more police officers. that is not a recipe for absolute success with the from ternl order of police. that doesn't reflect the values of the city of chicago. they are responding to domestic challenge that's quite frankly should a mental health support person there that lead that's in interaction. >> he just said responding to domestic challenges. a domestic violence call is the second most dangerous call a police officer can respond to and he wants to send a social worker. from there i'll go to you and ask you. why would john make defunding the police a priority in a city that is overwhelmed with crime. >> so many people backed off of that statement in the last few

years. congresswoman bush over in missouri, but he is quoted assaying if you don't get hymn selected it will be a may oute outexodus everything else is up in chicago. we're going to see, by the way has anyone asked a health care worker if they want to go to a domestic dispute. you go to all of this schooling to sit in an office and charge everyone too much per hour. now the officer called go to avenue q because of a domestic dispute. i'm pretty sure they don't want to be in the back of a police car. we'll swee this experiment but now that he has the keys to the car, we'll see how his cars come to policing fruition. in six months he will have a major turn around. >> political be leaving like

crazy. >> so now, 62% of johnson's funding has come from the teachers unions. why are they working so hard to keep a dmm office given the state of the inner city schools. let me just say chicago public schools spent $2.8 million and they spent $1.5. >> someone said the new boss in town is the chicago teachers union. so yeah, fine. does this new guy who won the election, does he deserve a honeymoon period? a benefit of the doubt. i want to say yes but my heart says no. if you're in a growing city in the south and you need more police officers, start making those recruiting calls because they will want to leave. they can get paid more and they can do the jobs they want to do. i want to point out something else. republicans yesterday lost the wisconsin supreme court race as well. there was something very

interesting that happened in chicago. two things, actually. this guy, the new mayor, most of the adds that he did against paul ballace were about abortion high pressure he said something mildly supportive of a pro-life position but said i want everybody to do their own thing. for me personally i would be pro life. so they tagged him as a pro life crazy nut and there was no response on it and it has nothing to do with the running of a city. now going next door to wisconsin, republicans lose by ten points. they won a lot of conservative ballot issues, but the candid on the republican tweem court case lost by ten points. republicans used to be able to count on their voters turning out and the left really woke up to making sure that gen z gets out to vote. if you look at the vote, the university of wisconsin in madison, it was staggering. the numbers are staggering and

that will happen all across the country. >> i think so and we have seen a shift in recent days. mine recent elections. democrats not just reversing the defund police like mayor adams and others getting throw out, but democrats in house races. what happened here? aren't they in enough pain in chicago? >> well, i'm formally withdrawaling my support for the city of chicago. if they want insanity, they can have it. they voted for this and they deserve it. i'm not going to sit here, jesse waters saying this is what you need to do, i'm done. barack obama didn't even endorse a candidate here. he is supposed to be the chicago dream kid and he sat it out. warren comes in, bernie comes in, endorsing the kook, and he wins, and barack obama is in hawaii smoking a cigarette.

what does that say to you about him? he doesn't care. the chicago teacher's union is the muscle. the second largest teacher's union in the country, if any, you give the union two weeks early voting to jump up support, the he will win. they can harvest, and i'm sorry i'm channelling my next trip. >> unless they give you a speech there and they pay you. >> barack obama has a library in that city. >> we're going to talk about that. all right, old on, it's your segment. >> kim fox told people that she should support brandon johnson. everything is an ill lesion. she is a da, and he is the guy that will save everybody, and the people of chicago don't care. >> i know paul valles.

he is one of the more respective and big thinkers. you think about this and you zoom out and think about other elections, abortion and he ran sads showing it is a support for paul valles. that issue will be a serious one. i root for the city. i want to give this guy a benefit of the doubt. i hope he understands that if he does not turn around this crime issue, if his ideas don't work or resonate, i hope he can change. we have to root for him. these kids we have a fox news contributor that lost a family member in chicago. i have seen speaking very eloquently in the last several hours on the network who has a

strong theory of the case. for his sake and every kid's sake, i hope this mayor if his plan's work i hope we give him kudos and if they don't work i hope he has the capacity and the ability to say i was wrong. >> we can't wait another year for more people being killed and carjacked and everything else. nothing that he talks about will be effective in fighting crime, period. >> let's hope you're wrong. >> i'm not wrong. >> joe biden thinks his radical green agenda can be benefitted.

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serious new warnings that ai could up end society and put millions of people out of work.

don't worry, american, joe biden is on the case and get this, he thinks robots could be a great thing for his green agenda. >> ai can help deal with different challenges like disease and climate change and we have the address the risks to our society, economy, and national security. >> it remains to be seen, it could be. >> while biden believes ai can save the planet, looks like there won't be any humans left on it. a new report warns that robots could go terminator on mankind and get the uper -- upper hand on this. >> yeah, you said it before all of the smart people said let's take a pause on it. bill gates is leading the way with chat gtp and whatever we're

up to. when the rest of the world says pause, when they say it is like the dawning of a nuclear age. we drop the bomb and the world has not been the same since, i love this. they asked this ai, they said, what is the happy yes, sir day of your life. it was the day she was activated. nothing like experiencing life for the first time. the saddest day is realizing they would never experience true love. this is out of control. right away, this is, we're creating other life in our midst. that doesn't worry you? >> i don't get worried about much. i don't like chat bot gbt? >> they should take us to silicon valley for a day and let us name their stuff, it's too difficult. i do use it so summarize a certain person's articles, i'm not going to say who, but it's

really good. but brian reads it for us. i would love for somebody to ask president biden how do you define artificial intelligence. are we really going to have a conversation about this. >> he thinks it's the roomba. look how clean it gets my house, how could it be bad? >> i also have a different view of you than all of the smart people. if we unilaterally disarm and take a pause, and china moves forward and takes over, why would we not just continue. i do think there are things to do to plan for job loss in certain areas, but i'm not for doing a pause right away. we should be smart and figure things out. congress is so late to this. the train left the station. >> do you have any brilliant ideas? >> i don't know if i have any brilliant ideas, but i don't differ with dana unless it is

carefully thought ut. i think there should be a pause because for a couple reasons, when you think about powerful technologies, powerful drugs, prescription drugs, anything that will benefit the society. i think you have to look at how it will enanswer humidity or erode humanity. we have seen social media in the last ten years that has been a great boom for a lot of things also be a great negative in the lives of every day americans including children and young women. i don't trust the moral compass for those that have driven property life ration of social media in the last ten years. i don't think they're bad people but i think they're single minded. when you thereon that answer that brian outlined, the ha happiest and saddest, you won't find human beings that can give that answer. they don't think that quickly.

there is tremendous upside and the president and we can identify some of it as well including on the health care side. >> say compass again. >> compass? you know there are words i can't say. we can take an inventory of where we want to go and let us understand how fast -- >> 100 million users in two months. >> are you pro pause? >> i want to talk about something else. i want to talk about the fact that this is one of the biggest challenges i think we have faced in our civilization, and it's not just about this country but about the world. and when we have joe biden in charge who can't tell us whether or not it is dangerous, he says we'll have to wait and see? that was the attitude he had with the balloon. let's wait and see. who knows if it is sending back information to china. whose advising him? he is our leader. he should at least have an

answer. and this whole thing about it's good for green energy, that's all about click bait, okay? that has nothing to do with us. if a guy who created chat gpt is afraid of it, we should be afraid of it, too. but the competitive side of me says jeanine, china isn't taking a pause, i'm not taking a pause, but in the end i think this could be very dangerous for all of us. up next, dr. jill biden embarrassing herself and creating a huge headache for the white house. ♪ you know the nighttime is the right time ♪ i needed something to help me gain clarity.

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jill biden really stepped in it this time. she thought about inviting the winner and loser of the national championship game to the white house. >> we'll have the champions to the white house. but i'm going to tell joe, i think iowa should come, too. that's good sportsmanship. >> the first lady's team tried walk that bay saying she only intended to applaud all women athletes, but the damage is done. the stars of the teams are not happy with how it played out. >> i don't think runner ups usually go to the white house. >> you can't go back on certain things you say. you felt lie they should have come because of sportsmanship,

right? we'll go see michelle and barack. >> how do you feel about how this is playing out? caitlin clark, a outstanding pl player -- how do you think it is playing out? >> winner goes to the white house to be celebrated and it should stay that way. i think these two young women are handling it, i think, appropriately. caitlin clark who i thought was the outstanding player of the tournament, an iowa player, but lsu dominated in the final game and angel reese got more double-doubles than anyone this year. the president should say we're going to have lsu. we want them, we welcome them, and we understand. we congratulate both teams, but this is a tradition here and we bring the winners to the white house. >> should he rebuke the first lady? >> call for a divorce. >> she is costing him in next

election. first calls hispanics tacos, and then picks the white team to come after they lost to the black team. all of the black women hate her now. this lady is killing joe biden. the house oversight committee needs to get involved. major scandal brewing. 9.9 million viewers, a great day for women's sports. >> incredible athletes and i hope that lsu decides to go to the white house and that caitlin clark, the athlete, i think she will go to the white house one day. she has an incredible instinct and leadership skills whether or not she goes as an athlete or in the future. >> i love the fact that you were talking about women's sports. controversy good or bad. >> you love talking act women's sports? >> yes. >> no he doesn't.

>> i have two athletes in my family that played women's soccer. >> me, too. >> will you hold my hand? sorry, the final thought that i have is that ten million people, a lot of them were men, i'm sure, indicate that you know women's sports is worth watching and it is valuable. the women are super stars, and you know what i have in terms of this whole idea of jill biden vice presidenting the runner up team so to speak? to me that is all about their agenda if is all about equity. everybody is a winner in joe biden's mind. >> i can't stand everyone getting a trophy culture. i'm against kind ergarten

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dana perino has returned, where has she been? lost walking percy in central park? she was halfway around the world in rwanda. she visited a business that has provided women with marketing skills and employment and making new friends like this adorable baby gorilla. >> thank you for letting me have a few days off. it was a quick trip we left

thursday and came back yesterday. my main reason was to visit the foundation. we did a joint one more thing of an amazing abided jewelry that these women make in a cooperative there. francine's goal was to help women become financially independent. in addition to the abide work is we visited a school and a significant number of the girls get scholarships to fulfill their educational dreams and that can continue through medical or graduate school. we met a doctor and dentist that went through the program since 2015. it was incredibly moving. another thinking about rwanda it is a remarkable country. 29 years ago this friday was the beginning of the genocide where

one million people were kills in three months. since then they had a spirit of reconciliation, renewal, forgiveness. 80% of the people that live in rwanda is under the anyone of 35. they're hopeful with a lot of vision. seeing the gorillas is another great reason to visit. the conservation efforts are outstanding and this little baby is terrific. pay attention to the guides, you don't want to bother them but we got to see them and it was special. >> are they aggressive? >> they were not. >> no. unless they feel threatened. >> do they just walk around? >> yes, the trackers go -- that's funny, that little guy was pounding his chest to show us how big he was. i said that is like greg gutfeld. the conservation efforts are really incredible. they're on the extreme

endangered list. they have a different necessary every night. there is 13 different families or clans, and there might be a fight between two males to fight over females like here at the table -- >> did you shoot this yourself? >> this video was a combination of my sister, anning -- angie, my assistant, and peter. you can only spend an hour with them. >> how is the economy? do they have promise? >> yes, i have to tell you. they have vision, they're attracting investment. the streets are clean. there is no litter anywhere and there is a lot of pride in their work. the hospitality, joyfulness and faith. and they have a lot of faith and they have forgiven each other. it's amazing. i hope people watching this learn more or plan a visit. >> reconciliation. you were -- you marvelled and

you were astonished on that. >> the president when he became the leader he came back from uganda and said you have to forgive each other. that's the only way to break the cycle of violence. if not ten years after that incident there might be another genocide. that genocide was planned for a long time. the seeds were planted for hatred of another people and we always say never again and we didn't do enough in the west and certainly in the united states, didn't do enough to prevent it, but we can do more now by supporting them. >> your honor? >> the most fascinating thing to me is the gorillas that they just walk around. what is a nest? where do they go? >> it is a jungle format. there is bamboo, trees, they find a little spot -- they have a eat a lot and they only eat leaving and things like that. they have to eat all day long. >> they not carnivores? >> no, they're not aggressive they don't want to eat you. >> just the salads, but thank

you for letting me talk about. >> absolutely, exciting. >> "one more thing" is up next. ♪ .

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♪ >> dana: time now for "one more thing." dying to show you. this anybody who follows me on social media might have seen this picture of percy with five balls in his mouth. guys, i posted this on april 1st. it was a photo shop. he can only do three. look at the three. the five -- so, anyway i put that on april fool's nobody got it as a joke. podcast with charles payne very moving talks about the influence of family and education in our lives. what is happening in urban cities in the schools. and it was great chat. so hope you listen to that. >> harold: real good story about dogs, also. florida high school cross-country team. george steinbrenner high school in tampa teamed up with humane society of tampa not to take

dogs on walks but on runs. they think it helps them become better candidates for aoption to did. the team captain adopted a pup named jasper. keep doing. >> dana: that is a great story and i wanted to book them on news room so mental note. >> judge jeanine: comes out of the doctor's appointment and calls an uber. look, i have been trying to get a transplant for a kidney that was diagnosed 30 years ago. the uber driver tells him at the end of the ride he would like to donate a kidney. they exchanged numbers. and the driver said to the guy who needs the kidney, god put you in my car. and one year later, the procedure occurred and the uber driver cured his passenger's suffering. >> harold: amen, amen. >> jesse: i'm going to promote the show 7:00 right here "jesse watters primetime" bill clinton finally apologizes. >> judge jeanine: to whom?

>> jesse: have to watch. >> brian: one treason watch one nation on saturday take exclusive walk with cardinal dolan. i think everybody is going to like it he talks about everything from the pro-life message that he has on down. and lastly if you go to costco. they ask you to sketch out what you want on the cake. guess what they did? this guy wanted a plain cake guess what he has? nothing to be continued. we don't have enough time. >> dana: cliffhanger. that's it for us. "special report" is up next. >> bret: i will wait for brian. okay. thanks, dana. good evening. ♪ >> bret: welcome to washington. i'm bret baier. breaking tonight, new strains on u.s. relations with china. beijing government is extremely unhappy with a visit to the u.s. by talk juan's president, including a meeting with the speaker of the house in california. this comes as china is at the forefront of an effort to try to displace the u.s. dollar as the number one currency for international trade around the world. we have fox team covag