except that one day during covid. >> you told me you walked. both of you have been on ride to work. i love this episode, because to quote tim mcgraw, you're so humble and kind. i'm excited for people to see this. >> thank you so much. great to see you. take care of the voice. we need you out there. >> i sound like kermit the frog, i know it. >> you've been on the road. >> i have. thanks for having me. >> "the faulkner focus" is up next. here's harris. >> we begin with live pictures from france, where people are upset because their entitlements are changing. yeah, you need a lot of cash to give people the kinds of requirements and time off and things that they have in parts of europe. people want to hang on to that, so they are protesting. a day of nationwide protests against the pension bill that president emanuel macron just pushed through despite widespread opposition. it raises, for example, the retirement age from 62 to 64.

police fired tear gas at these protesters, who threw projectiles at them and set bins on fire. people also are not stopping this situation. we'll monitor it, bring it to you, in a live report. so none of that is keeping them out of the streets. the police are trying their best to corral them. pretty peaceful in this picture that we see right now. some of the video that we've seen come in has been kind of back and forth between how rowdy the situation gets. this is a battle over what can france afford to pay for anymore, and people who say they deserve to have what they've worked for all their lives.

i'm harris faulkner. you are in "the faulkner focus." a bipartisan congressional delegation just touched down in taiwan today, one day after house speaker kevin mccarthy defied china's threats and met with taiwan's president in california. china still claims sovereignty over taiwan, something the united states does not recognize. in response to that meeting, china threatened they would quote not sit idly by. however, speaker mccarthy remained defiant, sending a clear message. >> i'm the speaker of the house. there's no place that china is going to tell me where i can go or who i can speak to, whether you be foe or be friend.

>> that's strong. the white house more gentle. feels like spin, insisting that meeting was not out of the norm. >> the message to them, this is not uncommon. it's not official. and there's no reason for them to react in any sort of an aggressive manner. >> this is something that's been part of a long tradition, a long u.s. tradition. there should not be a reason for the pcr to overreact here. >> in fact, you'll remember nancy pelosi went when she was house speaker just a few months ago, but that not official line. we'll get into that. what does that mean? does the white house -- is it really snowflaking this, or does it really back its people no matter what their politics are in the house? well, they're still on eggshells after that china spy craft incident apparently. and even more so now with a new report revealing that flight was collecting intelligence in real time as it was flying over our

top-secret military sites. you know, doing figure eights. no way did they not get that back to china. now we know. mark meredith is live outside the white house. mark? >> heirs, good morning to you. the white house continues to yawn play the impact of the taiwanese visit to the u.s., however we're also still waiting to see whether this ratchets up tensions between the u.s. and china even higher. on wednesday, as you mentioned, multiple lawmakers from both parties met face-to-face with taiwan's president at the ronald reagan library outside los angeles. we were waiting to see whether or not this had any major impact on u.s. relations, but lawmakers say the meeting and those recently held in new york should energize future engagement with taiwan. >> it's important that we just show that taiwan is an extremely good partner to the united

states, and we need to strengthen our trade. we need to make sure military transfers are going through as quickly as possible. and we need to assist with training the taiwan military. >> china itself remains engaged on this issue, even sending letters to u.s. lawmakers visiting taiwan this week. while we're told the letters are not uncommon, they certainly are direct. the chinese embassy writing to the lawmakers, quote, the very cope of china's core interest, the bedrock of the political foundation of china-u.s. relationships, and a line that must not be crossed. some argue the red line has already been crossed, pointing to the spy balloon that the chinese are not playing by the rules, while the administration refuses to say how much information the balloon captured when it flew over multiple u.s. military sites. >> we took precautions in advance to ensure it didn't get

sensitive information. the bottom line is this is an administration that identified the problem and took action. >> we were hoping that maybe we'd get a chance to talk to president biden about any impact on the taiwan issue, or what's been happening with the balloon, but the president, no public events on his schedule today, getting ready to head to camp david for the easter weekend, but there's a press briefing at the podium this afternoon. harris? >> mark, thank you very much. brian mast of florida sits on the house foreign affairs committee, a army veteran, awarded a purple heart, bronze star for his service to our nation. we're so grateful, that you are serving now as a congressman. tell me from the committee that you sit on what are the greatest dangers that you all are looking at right now with regard to china. >> a number of things. so the term was used, escalating tensions between china and the united states. here's the reasons i can give you in a nutshell as to why. they have the most rapidly advancing nuclear arsenal of any

country. you have north korea on the peripheral just today saying that the united states and north korea are rapidly pushing toward nuclear war. that's not a coincidence that they're testing america at the same time. you have china essentially on wednesday imposing a naval blockade around taiwan, telling merchant ships they're going to be subject to random inspections at different times. they're constantly saying they're pushing the united states -- this is china -- saying they're pushing the united states navy out of what they claim to be their waters. we've heard numerous times they're saying taiwan is a red line for china, but don't hear the united states saying it is a red line for the united states of america. i would sum this up in just one other place to say, you know, you look at this, many people have said that taiwan is the -- or rather china is the new cold war with the united states of america. i believe that to be true. in that being true, i believe that taiwan is the new east/west germany of this cold war. >> oh, what could that

potentially mean? >> so you look at that as a battleground. not just in the way that east/west germany played things out for europe during the cold war with russia. look at the way that we are dependent upon resources, semiconductors, other things, coming out of taiwan, the way that this is a disputed territory, the way that china is saying this is a red line. even when speaker mccarthy steps up to the microphone and says, listen, china, you don't get to tell me who i speak to, where i speak to them, when i speak to them. i'm the speaker of the house of representatives. he's not getting backed up by the administration, by the white house. they should be saying, no, you should take this very seriously, china. this is an escalating situation. we see this as a red line, and we are going to back taiwan. you see backing away from the white house. that's not what we want. >> yeah. we just showed it. i'm just basicallied by the words of admirable kirby on behalf of the white house, his

new position as national security advisor, not official. i mean do those words matter? it felt like they were soft pedaling it, everything our officials do. they're called officials. we mean it. we're doing it on purpose. why won't the white house give it that? >> it doesn't just feel like they were backpedaling it and handling it softly. that's absolutely what we were doing. we didn't even bring up the spy balloon, other instances going on. they are not standing firm in the face of this, saying, taiwan, you can count on us. another thing that we could put into play in this whole situation, ukraine. obviously we know vladimir putin, and xi, some say they might have a bromance, if that's a term you want to use. very close relationship. around the olympics, vladimir putin said there are no limits to their relationship. so every time we're paying attention to what's going on between russia and the you can,,

that's less that china is under the microscope and the globe, something that china absolutely loves about this situation. >> the united states is facing pressure over detained "wall street journal" reporter evan gershkovich, sitting in a russian president ahead of his espionage trial. secretary of state antony blinken says this. >> in evan's case, we are working through the determination on wrongful detention. it's something we're working through very deliberately, but expeditiously as well. in my own mind, there's no doubt that he's being wrongfully detained by russia. >> just a little housekeeping here, congressman. i do understand they need that wrongful detention determination to rev up government efforts to get him home. that's a process that they must go through. >> i believe fully that antony

blinken, as much as we have disagreement on many i think so this, we see each other on committee often, i believe they're working through the official processes of doing this. here's where their hands are tied behind their back. russia is looking at this, saying, well, if the united states of america was willing to give up what everybody called the merchant of death, a top arms dealer for russia, for a wnba player on a pot charge, what are they willing to give up for a "wall street journal" reporter charged for espionage, facing decades in prison, or possibly even death, that's where the united states of america is in a very tough negotiating situation, because of what was done previously in my opinion. >> well, paul whalen's family, we know another came home in december, about the time of brittney griner. we got that person out. mark fogle, a history teacher from pittsburgh. i have a list up to 50 people around the world, not just in russia, that we need to do

negotiations with to bring home. but for the fogle family, for the whalen family, you bring up a brilliant question, what will it take to bring them home? we have to make them a priority. i don't know how you do that with the bromance you just described between russia and china. wow. congressman, thank you very much no being in focus. >> always good to see you. >> breaking news. we started here off the top, and it has gotten a little bit more interesting again. clashes have erupted in paris during its day of nationwide protests against a pension bill that president emanuel mook has pushed through, despite widespread opposition as i mentioned earlier. people have been in the streets for weeks now, and they wanted him out. he managed to fend them off. he still has his job. now the things he's pushing through, they don't have the money to keep everybody paid forever. he's wanting to raise the

retirement from 62 to age 64. people are, as you can see, in the streets over it. affected by these protests, harris. this is the 11th nationwide day of protests france has seen in the last three months. we're watching the live images coming in now. we're seeing skirmishes between protesters and police, tear gas being hurled earlier on this day. we saw the canopy of french president macron's favorite brasseries on the left bank go

up in flames. they're serious today. as you know, it's about this hike in the retirement age from 62 to 64. from most countries perspectives, it doesn't seem like a radical thing, but for the french it's very, very serious. president macron had to ram the legislation through his parliament without a proper vote, and that got people even more angry. he stood by it. i think what we're looking at now, harris, is that next week, next friday, this bill will be examined by their constitutional court in france. i think the hope is that maybe some of this heat on the street might affect some of the judges deciding on this. somehow maybe bits of it, i doubt the whole piece of legislation, but bits of it might be held up, or even thrown out by this court. you might ask where french president macron is right now. well, he's in china, with president xi over there, trying

to drum over whatever support he can get, probably in the business sphere. he says he's pushing the west's cause on various fronts with china. apparently he decided to get out of town. maybe his timing was right. we will be tracking this. more disturbances once again. the 11th day of national protests, just in the past three months, harris. >> china is becoming ubiquitous. they talk to the people who are at stress points. they talk to our enemies. they bring sunnis and shiah together with saudi arabia and iran. i mean, they're at the center of just about everything right now. congressman mast of florida was just talking about it. we had better wake up. by the way, it's hard to put money in the coffers unless you can go get some money. yeah, where does macron go? china. wow. greg, great reporting. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> a north carolina state lawmaker just ditched the democratic party, saying that party is unrecognizable.

>> the thought of being an independent thinker in this world of cancel culture, that has taken over the democratic party, doesn't want people like me. i'm not going to be bullied. >> her flip to the gop now gives the republican party veto power in the key swing state of north carolina. democrats are not taking this news very well today. fox news contributor jason chaffetz in focus next. - elites. now that we've made travel so expensive, we have this hotel to our...selves..? - how'd you get here? - kayak! they compared hundreds of travel sites to find a great deal on my flight, car, and hotel. - kayak. search one and done.

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>> a north carolina lawmaker has shaken up the state legislature by switching parties, effectively cementing a republican stronghold in that state. the st tate representative had

harsh words for democrats. >> modern-day democratic party has become unrecognizable to me. party wants to villainize anyone who has free thought. if you don't do exactly what the democrats want you to do, they will try to bully you. >> republicans now have what's called a supermajority, and can overturn disappointed governor roy cooper's vetoes. democratic congressman jeff jackson called it a political earthquake, saying he cannot overstate the consequences of this switch. the "wall street journal" open said wrote, quote, the thing about attacking political allies for their lack of purity is sometimes they take it to heart. the result is a gop supermajority, quite the headache for democratic governor roy cooper. jason chaffetz joins us.

jason, sometimes things happen, people don't know about it, but everybody is talking about this, because when you switch a party and give the other party a supermajority it does what? >> well, look, a supermajority is important, if the legislature wants to flex its muscles. but i think the bigger, broader story, for republicans in general, and it is really negative for the democrats, is the democrats attack on the first amendment, which is not the traditional liberal way. i think she speaks for a lot of americans in that there is no home for somebody who actually has a liberal mind and does not appreciate being suppressed and cajoled because somebody has a different way of thinking. you know, the short way of saying this is, you know, it's amazing to me how those who express the idea of diversity are the least diversified among us. if you get out of line, don't do exactly what they say, they're

going to come after you. i think she got sick and tired of it. there's no home in the democratic party today. you believe what they believe or they're going to take you down. they're going to ridicule you, mock you, and make life difficult for you. she was tired of it. >> well, they're professional cancelers. you know, we're already seeing this happen. we saw with democratic representative tim ryan when he tried to run for speaker of the house against nancy pelosi, before she was ready to give up that seat apparently. there was no freedom of thought there. they were talking about age-related problems back then. then you look at the president, in the polling, more than 50% of people who declare themselves democrats want somebody other than this president to run. they don't think he's quite there yet. you don't hear those voices amplified. >> well, what you don't see is you don't see republicans flipping to the democratic side. you even have kirsten cinema in the united states saying i have

no room for me on the democratic side of the aisle. the georgia state legislature, a longtime democrat who came over to the republican party. it is amazing how the democrats gave up and have cr cedeed the first amendment. they don't believe it in anymore. >> what's coming up in 2024? >> it's hard to get to the white house without dominating and winning in north carolina. that's a must-have states. both sides will fight vigorously for it. i think the advantage goes to the republicans at this point. >> jason chaffetz, thank you very much. before this holy weekend, blessings to your family at easter. >> thank you. yours as well. >>en for alert now. a massive rocket attack. many of them now fired from lebanon into israel in the worst attack we've seen since 2006.

the israeli defensive force reported today the first day of passover the iron dome intercepted two dozen rockets. we're live in jerusalem. another holy point around the world, passover begins and the rockets are flying. trey? >> harris, exactly. good morning. today around 34 rockets were fired from lebanon into northern israel, causing damage to roads and buildings. israeli officials do not believe the lebanese military group hezbollah is behind the attack. they think it's palestinian factions can links to gaza. as you mentioned, 25 of them coming into israeli territory. those were intercepted. this all started tuesday at a mosque when israeli police forces clashed with palestinian worshipers at the once in a while site who were launching fireworks if inside. more than 350 palestinians were arrested, and some were beaten with guns and bardottons. this led to palestinian i

factions like hamas and islamic jihad inside gaza, firing 18 rockets into israel, israel responding with airstrikes over the gaza strip. overnight there was anti-aircraft fire from gaza after more clashes unfolded in jerusalem. the unrest and rocket fire comes at the intersection of massive holidays, the muslim holy month of ramadan, the jewish holiday of passover, and easter this weekend. israeli officials will gather tonight with prime minister benjamin netanyahu to determine a response to the attack from lebanon. the rocket fire today from lebanon was the largest attack on northern israel since the war in 2006 as the civilian population here braces for the politician of a new multifront conflict. harris? >> always great to get the news from you from there with all the detail. appreciate it. more states are banding gender-affirming care for minors now, and some looking to restrict the use of unapproved

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bill into law. does the president have a position on at what age is appropriate? >> that's something for a parent and their child to decide. it's not something to be decided by legislators. i'll leave it there. >> in arkansas, lawmakers passed a new bill which would require parents' approval for teachers to use trans students to use preferred pronouns. governor say huckabee sanders joins us. what do you think of indiana getting added to the list? >> anytime as government officials we have the ability to meaningful in this space come out of washington. it's why so many republican governors are stepping up, passing legislation that does

exactly that. it protects kids. it bans some of these permanent life-altering surgeries, and makes sure we're putting the focus on our children and empowering parents to make the best decisions possible. >> well, what you just said, as i've talked with medical professionals, is so critical. we actually don't have a lot of data on what's reversible and what's not. it could very well be personal, a decision that an 11-year-old, for example, would make in some states. the idea of where you are, we're both moms, we know that. >> you know, i have three kids, harris, and most days they can't decide what they want for breakfast. we go through 10 different versions of what we're going to dress up for for halloween. the idea that they are capable at that age of making life-altering permanent decisions, they're not prepared, ready to make that. it's our job to protect kids,

empower parents. that's exactly what we're doing here in arkansas, what you're seeing take place across the country. >> parents were invited to the table, that would be one thing, but in many of these democrat-led districts and cities where they think it's a good idea for the teacher or other authorities to make the decision with the child without the parents knowing. they shouldn't be doing that about anything. we should be constantly communicated with. >> absolutely. i couldn't agree more. the parents have to be involved. not just involved, but they have to be the decision-maker. that's their responsibility. that's their role in trying to cut parents out of the process is simply unacceptable and not something we can allow to happen. >> the latest fox news poll shows education is a key issue heading into 2024, with book banning, what's taught in schools as top concerns for parents. arkansas is among 18 states which have now passed school choice laws. how do you see this moving forward? i mean, we know it's going to be

a hot issue. voters are telling us this. where is it going? >> you know, arkansas passed one of the most comprehensive historic pieces of education legislation, not just in our state, but anywhere in the country earlier this year, called arkansas learns, where we take a massive hammer to the system and the status quo, focusing on things like paying our teachers more, empowering our parents through school choice, getting rid of some of the indoctrination, focusing on childhood literacy, tutoring, workforce programs. we think arkansas can be the blueprint for other states around the country on what it looks like to have a strong education system, focused on rewarding good teachers, making sure that our kids are put on a pathway to success, and getting rid of the indoctrination, focusing on actually educating, not indoctrinating our kids. that's exactly what we did through arkansas learns.

i know it's going to be incredibly successful and really transform our state for the better. >> yeah. indoctrination is word i was thinking of when you do anything without a parent's consent with a child that's going to be permanent. all right. praying vitally for your state and so many others, it has been a tough start to tornado season for this country. another twister tore through southeast missouri just yesterday. five people died. at least five. you know it can take some time before those numbers firm up. we pray mightily people who are trapped are found just in time. it's just the latest in a series, though, of deadly storms which have ripped through the united states, as i mentioned, this season. in arkansas, one terrifying video has popped. it captures the destruction. let's watch this together.

>> the woman was taking video of the twister and got dragged out of the door, out of the building by winds. thankfully i believe her husband was the one who held on to her as best he could. she's okay. arkansas just beginning recovery efforts. i know from following you on social media, covering your news conferences, governor, this has been epic. >> you know, this has been an incredibly difficult last few days for our state. i could not be more proud to be the governor of arkansas, having seen so many people from all over arkansas come together, taking care of our neighbors. we had absolutely devastating destruction here in central arkansas as well as in the small town of wynn in east arkansas. we have five confirmed fatalities. it could have been much worse. right now we are focused on

making sure we do everything we can to provide assistance to those who need it, and have spent the last week getting those people in temporary housing, making sure they have food, clothing. could not be more grateful for the federal, state and local partnership that we've had. we've had 3400 arkansans already request individual advance from fema, and they've already distributed over $400,000 in assistance. we've come together as a state. people are taking care of each other like never before. we have a long road ahead. i know that arkansas will come back stronger and better, and we'll do that because we're working together to take care of each other. i'm really proud of the way people stepped up. >> governor, there's help on the way as well. i'll get to that. thank you for your time in focus today. >> thank you, harris. >> the red cross is working around the clock as we've been telling you day by day to bring

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>> chicago almost tipped over when they elected this man on the left, brandon johnson, mayor-elect, wasting no time touting his very far left agenda, replacing lori lightfoot on the right, already so far left she'd defunded the police. well, brandon johnson is eager to work on the already existing liberal immigration and sanctuary city policies, even though there's been serious pushback. johnson's campaign website says he will ensure law enforcement does not cooperate with i.c.e.

to arrest, detain or deport our migrant neighbors. he also promises to make all chicago public schools sanctuaries for all children. johnson says progressive chicago should be a model for the rest of the country. >> let's take this bold progressive movement around these united states of america. chicago, we can show the country, we can show the world, what's possible when we stand on our values as one people. we can reject the false choices that have been presented to us for so long. >> where are they going to get the money to do that? they've got to pay for that obama library that's going to be $500 million. check out this. it's a headline in chicago. brandon johnson stakes claim as most progressive chicago mayor in a generation.

power panel now. fox news contributors, part of our family here. good to see you. >> good morning. >> charlie, i'll start with you. in chicago, they're all in on far left, even though their crime is literally killing them. >> yeah. it was sort of a glimmer of hope when chicago residents tossed out lori lightfoot, and we thought maybe they might have touched the hot stove enough and were going to go in the right direction. no one ever imagined that they would go in an even more wrong direction. this is insane. and, by the way, you know, if you're not willing to enforce all the laws that's the same as defunding the police. and, you know, obviously, you know, the bigger problem in

chicago is the violent crime, murders, all of that. but if you're not willing to enforce immigration laws, you're basically thumbing your nose on the idea of law and order. you can't -- i hate to be mean about it, but honestly at some point you have to dust off your hands and say this is what voters keep asking for, and this is what they keep getting. until they learn the lesson, decide to improve their own city, there isn't a lot anybody else can do for them. >> you know, marie, part of the concern is the bump up to north of a million now, people who come over, the got-aways, people that we don't know who they are, where they're going, but surreptitious in of to break our law, probably not law-abiding in that sense, because they could have gone through a checkpoint and chose not to. when you set up sanctuary

cities, they hide among us, and may not want to be people who help us grow as a nation. >> i think people take that treacherous journey for a variety of reasons, most of which do it because they want a better life. >> why not go to a checkpoint? >> because some people can't get to checkpoints. i mean, there are a variety of reasons -- >> somewhere next to the place where they crawl through the bushes. they're right next to where the people are trying to tunnel in. >> and they have a legal right, if they are being persecuted in their home countries, or in danger, to claim asylum, or refugee status. so we have a process. there's a couple bottom lines here. the first is this reminds that at its root it's a humanitarian crisis, the immigration crisis is a humanitarian crisis. the bottom line is, harris, it won't be fixed by policies at a city level. it has to be fixed by legislative level -- >> so what do you say to brandon

johnson, who wants to make america look like chicago? >> what i would say to brandon johnson, harris, to your question, i think that schools should be safe places for children, even if the children have come here illegally, have crossed the border. i would say that each mayor has to decide what is most important to the citizens of their city. if the cities elected him and said we want our city to be one where we welcome immigrants, even if they have not come here through the legal process, look, if citizens don't like that, to charlie's point, they can vote brandon johnson out in the next election. >> wow. who's going to deal with the crime? i mean, that's what everybody said they cared about. i can't imagine they weren't telling the truth about that. let's get to this. the white house press secretary stumbled over an answer about why president biden won't be attending the coronation of king charles iii. first lady jill biden will be in his place. she'll take the trip instead. according to reports, white house insiders were worried about president biden's age and

stamina in taking the trip. when korean jean-pierre was asked about it on multiple occasions, she struggled. let's watch. when karine jean-pierre was asked about it on multiple occasions, she struggled. let's watch. >> has a great relationship with king charles iii. >> are you concerned that the british people see it as a snub? >> not at all. again, the president has a great relationship with the king. >> your response? >> u.s. president has never gone to a coronation of a british king. president biden was there at the queen's funeral. i think the precedent here is clear. the british government has no doubt about the close partnership we have with them. none whatsoever. >> i wonder what would have happened if she hadn't been queen elizabeth, the

longest-reigning monarch in our lifetime in the open era, hasn't been since 1953, they've had a change of hands. let's go ahead. your response, charles. >> well, i mean, i don't even think this is necessarily something that has to be a controversy, but it's another example where the biden administration, they can screw up a one-car parade as they do in this situation, because they don't even know how to explain things. or they do it in really big ways, like they did with the border, which was ostensibly the flow had halted under the previous administration, and they went and undid all of it for whatever, you know, political reasons they wanted to unto it all. now as marie says, we have a huge hu humanitarian crisis. >> you don't think it's that big of a deal that biden doesn't go to the uk, but he should say

something about it? >> i don't. >> real quickly, what should he say? >> i don't think it's a big deal. again, i'm anti-monarchist. i'm probably not the best person to ask that question. >> you are charlie, that's true. >> there you go. the great to see you both. thank you very much. before we go, i want you to check something out that happened on fox nation with a friend. you're hearing about ride to work, because that season just burst, just opened up with abby hornacek, it's back for another season, and this season they invited me to ride along. abby drove this big truck. it was awesome. watch. >> we're on the george washington bridge. you know, like holidays, when we observe 9/11. there is a flag that hangs from the top of the arch to just 6 feet above our cars. >> stop it. >> it is the biggest flag. it's so amazing. now if you go north, those are the palisades.

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