>> thanks for watching. coming up on over the weekend, rick is coming on. happy passover. happy good friday. >> a break in a case that stymied investigators, a brutal one, too, the mysterious killings of three florida teenagers. authorities found the bodies over the course of several days last week, all in different locations. central florida this is. first, though, signs of an economic slow-down. the march jobs report shows the labor market softening. is that what the fed wants? probably. good morning. it's a friday.

happy good friday. i'm bill hemmer. >> happy good friday to you. it's time to break out some colors, i decided, indeed. i'm dana perino. this is "america's newsroom." let's get you to the numbers. the united states added 236,000 jobs last month. that is the weakest growth since december of 2020. unemployment it ticked down to 3.5%. >> we're crunching the numbers. hello, steve. is this good? is this bad? what's it tell smart guys like you? >> what it tells you that things are beginning to slow. what is more important is what happened earlier this week, the report on manufacturing. report on surfaces, isns, purchase managers, a very good indicator of what's about to happen. manufacturing is in a serious decline. services, which have been a mainstay in terms of people being able to spend on services again after the lockdowns, that's beginning to show signs of weakening. people's savings are beginning to be run down. credit card debt is beginning to

go up. the storm clouds are there. i think you'll see that reflected in the jobs report. not in the next few monthsk because you have crazy seasonal readjustments. remember in january? half a million jobs added. they actually declined because they do seasonal adjustments after holidays. a lot of people laid off. down 2.5 million. the distortion of covid and lockdowns. i don't think you'll get a real feel until springtime. it's not a bad report, but other factors indicate something will happen. never had 3.5% unemployment in an economy slowing down. >> well, will any of this, though, help bring down inflation? >> you'll see, yeah, for the wrong reasons. unfortunately the fed only knows how to fight inflation by depressing the economy, making people poorer. they'll go through another rate

hike. they've done substantial damage. so what they did in terms of the rate hikes, that's beginning to work its way through the economy now. so it takes time. it's like turning a freighter. you know, you turn the wheel, but it's a while before the ship makes a turn. so the economy is slowing down. typically, the fed, they're too late in fighting the inflation. now they'll be trying to trash the economy too long. they'll be in retreat i think by late next year, early next year. what the bottom line is, they're guilty of economic malpractice and congress hasn't called them out. >> i think you always have a macro sense of where you think where we are. i don't think if you're optimistic or pessimistic about america right now. >> oh, i'm so owe. >> you said, if america's pastime, baseball, can turn itself around, why not the country as a whole. >> baseball is one of the most rigid sports around, they hate to make change, but by golly, a game in serious decline, as you know, made big rule changes finally, getting rid of the

shift, having the pitchers and batters not being able to play in the batter's box on the mound, where a batter would come up to bat, take a pitch, and go to miami for five days and come back to take the second pitch. they've already shortened the game. the game has become more exciting. more base stealing, everything like that. it will take a while before fans realize. younger people will see how baseball should be played. my point was, if baseball can turn itself around, the country will. you'll see it in the 2024 elections. serious debate on what do we do with the tax code, spending, regulations, what do we do to stop the crazy roller coaster with the dollar, which is very, very disruptive. >> i'm sorry to interrupt, but i want to get this into you here, this call for number three. what do we need to know about china and russia, the attempts to weaken the u.s. dollar? bloomberg says that china replaces the dollar as the most traded currency in russia.

is that something for us to care about, to worry about? >> it's a family channel, so no. >> okay. >> other currencies are even worse. it's like a baseball team batting .190, terrible, but the other teams are batting .110. it's not a sign of real strength. the thing about russia and china, if they're serious about their currency, making them global currencies, they would link it to gold, get rid of the capital controls, the chinese. no one wants to have big deals with the currency, when the government is mucking around with capital controls, which means you can't easily trade the currency, get in and out of a country, so you got to make reforms to make a run at the dollar. we've stabilized the dollar in the past. got to do it again. like changing the number of minutes in an hour. >> in your analogy, like the cincinnati reds playing the --

>> new york yankees? >> umm, be like the yankees playing the reds. thank you. it's a family channel. >> some day the reds, you can take -- 10 years ago, the houston astros had a miserable team. >> we need our own resurrection for that team. nice to see you, sir. have a good easter weekend. okay? steve forbes in studio today. thank you. >> thank you. >> israel's iron dome defense system is busy today after fighter jets hit targets in southern lebanon and the gaza strip. that after a barrage of rockets were fired from lebanon into israeli territory yesterday. it's some of the worst violence between the two countries since nearly two decades ago. we're live in southern israel with the latest. hi, trey. >> dana, good morning.

there was an exchange of fire overnight as israel struck back against palestinian factions in both lebanon and gaza. here's a look at what unfolded. israeli fighter jets target positions along the gaza strip, striking hamas tunnels and manufacturing weapons sites, retaliations, after factions fired 34 rockets into israel on thursday. in response to the airstrikes, hamas ordered fresh attacks, launching more than 40 rockets into southern israel. overnight a rocket fired from gaza slammed into this house. you can see the damage caused to the building. a family was inside at the time. air raid sirens were sounding and interceptions taking place overhead. this woman lives next door with her young daughters and was woken by the blast. it's scary to live here. it's not easy, she says. the kids are afraid. the exchange of fire along the gaza border took place as israel

conducted rare strikes in southern lebanon, sending a message to those that target the jewish state. >> first of all, the responsibility lies with hamas, because they did it. you can see i'm sure hezbollah knew about it, and hamas have strong iranian support. >> while the rocket fire has subsided for now there was a shooting attack in the jordan valley this morning that killed two israelis. a senior hamas official telling fox news today that israel cannot expect calm or security based on their actions. dana? >> thank you, trey. >> newly-released surveillance video shows the final moments of the cash app founder bob lee, stabbed multiple times in downtown san francisco. his killing put a spotlight on rising crime in the city. the surveillance video is graphic, hard to watch. the images show the tech executive stumbling down the sidewalk, calling for help before finally collapsing.

claudia cowens in sausalito, other side of the bay. claudia, good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. that's right, four days later, still no arrests or suspects identified in tuesday's tragic murder of tech executive bob lee, but as you mentioned we are now seeing that surveillance video showing how lee spent the final moments of his life, looking for help after being repeatedly stabbed in the chest. "the daily mail" website obtained this heartbreaking footage, showing lee staggering along the sidewalk, bleeding, trying to flag down a driver or a doorman to no avail. last night police chief bill scott says there have been good developments, reportedly a kitchen knife with a 4-inch blade was found in a nearby parking lot, but it's unclear if that was the murder weapon, and police have not released any details. >> this investigation is still in the early stages. because of this we are not commenting on evidence, nor will we speculate on the circumstances surrounding this

horrific crime. >> some of lee's friends are turning their grief into activisim, launching a change.org petition to get justice for bob lee, and making san francisco safe again. they're calling on city leaders to take stronger action against violent offenders and improve public safety. lee had recently moved to miami. his friends say he didn't feel safe living in san francisco anymore, but he had to come back last friday for a business meeting, and decided to extend his trip to see his friends. one of those, you saw, tells me he thinks lee was walking back to his hotel after a late-night out, but there are several hours tuesday morning between midnight and 2:00 a.m. where he says it's unclear where lee was or who he was with. the tragic death has drawn attention to a rise in violent crime in san francisco as well as four stabbings in four days, even in nicer areas, like the one where lee was killed. the police chief last night hinting that an arrest could

come soon, while the mayor and district attorney are promising to hold those responsible fully accountable. bill? >> clawia claudia, thank you, in sausalito, california. >> i'm sorry. i just want buy the argument of chaos. >> the white house says it's proud of that tragic withdrawal from afghanistan, while afghanistan blames the previous administration for everything that went wrong. how that assessment is going over on capitol hill. >> also waiting a big announcement out of florida. police expect to announce the arrest in the killing of three teenagers there. the that case has rocked a small community in central florida. the update when it begins. we expect that in about 15 minutes from now. dana? >> the tennessee state legislature taking the extraordinary step of expelling

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>> for the second time in about a week, chaos erupting in tennessee's capital city yesterday, at the capitol grounds. the state legislature expelling two democrats for breaking decorum rules during a gun rights protest. that's an extraordinary step. it's only been used a handful times, going back to the civil war. nate foley has the fallout with us today. nate, hello. >> bill, good morning. the statehouse voted to expel two of the three democrats who led last week's protest inside the house chamber, the

republicans calling it a mutiny, while the democrats, including president joe biden, are calling it a protest on democracy. the trio led this gun control protest during a house session in response to the nashville school shooting. the two reps speaking into the bullhorn here. justin jones and justin pearson were voted out by the republican supermajority, but the woman, gloria johnson, survived by one vote, and she thinks her race may have played a role. >> why were those two expelled and you weren't? >> well, i think it's clear. i'm a white woman and they are two young black men. >> so, bill, you see the trio arriving to the state capitol, holding hands, right before the vote. here's the two ousted lawmakers after the vote. >> it's a sad day for democracy

in tennessee. if it can happen here, it can happen anywhere in the nation. >> this is wrong. as p patriarchy and white supremacy. >> the two democrats could be back soon, retake their seats in a special election, or appointed to fill their spots before a special election. >> quite remarkable. nate, thanks. >> the biden administration releasing its report on the chaotic withdrawal from afghanistan, including the bombing at the kabul airport that killed 13 u.s. service members. the assessment mostly gives the president a free pass, while shifting blame to his predecessor, president trump. it says in part this, during the transition from the trump administration to the biden administration, the outgoing administration provided no plans for how to conduct the final withdrawal or to evacuate americans and afghan allies. national security spokesman john

kirby trying to defend that. >> there were children being killed, people hanging off air force jets that were leaving, and you're saying you're proud the way this mission was conducted? proud of that? >> proud of the fact that we got more than 124,000 people safely out of afghanistan? you bet. proud of the fact that american troops were able to seize control of a defunct airport and get it operational in 48 hours? you bet. proud of the fact that we now have 100,000 afghans, our former allies and partners living in this country, working toward citizenship? you bet. there was a lot that went right. a lot of afghans are living better lives in this country and other countries around the world because of the sacrifices and work of so many american government officials. yeah, there's a lot to be proud of, peter. >> let's bring in massachusetts democratic congressman seth mullton, a veteran yourself. sir, let's get your reaction to

the report that came out yesterday and how they characterized it. >> well, look, i was a critic of the biden administration before and during the withdrawal, and i was also a vocal critic of the trump administration for the plans they left in place. there's no question if we had followed trump's plan for pulling out of afghanistan it would have been even more rapid, even more chaotic. i don't think it's enough to just blame the previous administration. this is the commander in chief. he's responsible for what his administration does. clearly they did not start this evacuation soon enough. something that i and other veterans in congress were calling for for months, before the final withdrawal began. >> then you had all of the equipment, of course, that was just left behind, as bagram, for example, was abandoned. >> look, john kirby is right, the troops did a amazing job, but had to take back that airport because we gave it up, pulled out our troops, too many troops, too soon.

yes, we got out a lot of afghans, but we left a lot of afghan allies behind. veterans like myself are still working every day to try to get them to freedom before they're massacred by the taliban. yes, the troops did great work, and a lot of people were saved. and it was a difficult environment. let's look at why we got to that place in the first place. it was in large part because we simply didn't start this evacuation soon enough. >> talk to me about some of those special immigrant visa holders that cannot get to the united states, and the state department backlog that still exists today. some statistics, i've seen, it could take 18 years to get through that. so that means we didn't keep our promise to those afghans that helped us. >> i mean, look, veterans feel passionately about this, because we put our lives in the hands of these afghans. these afghans put their lives in our hands. we promised to have their backs.

and i just recently heard the story of a brave interpreter who risked his life every day, not just for afghanistan, but for the united states of america in his work, and he was in line, he had all his paperwork ready to go, and the evacuation flight was postponed. why? because of the world cup. during the two weeks that evacuation flights were stopped because it was more important for the world to be watching soccer, the taliban hunted him down and killed him. that's what continues to go on every single day while we still have so many afghan heroes, heroes to our troops left behind. >> i've heard it described that some veterans are dealing with what's called a moral injury. have you heard about that? >> absolutely. i mean, i think a lot of us feel this way. we made a promise. we made a promise to have their backs. and, look, you can spread the blame around here. the trump administration for years stalled these applications, so they weren't coming through the normal

process. that's in part why there's so much of a backlog when it came to the final evacuation. but both administrations should take responsibility here, including the biden administration. there's no reason they shouldn't have simply started this evacuation earlier. i was in congress for months calling for this, both in public and behind the scenes, and veterans on both sides of the aisle joined me in that call. >> you know, this just came to me. i just wonder if you look at some of these decisions and if you ever reconsider maybe throwing your hat in the ring again to run for president. >> look, i ran for president because i thought donald trump was a unique challenge to this country. and it would be important to have a combat veteran in the race. the voice of a combat veteran while we've been fighting wars for two decades. i was the one combat veteran in the race. i think the american people made it clear they didn't want me. >> well, you're a young man.

there's a big future in front of you. thank you, congressman. great to have you on the show today. >> good to see you, dana. >> in the briefing room, john kirby came in, the president flew out, and john kirby defended this. he's been our program quite a bit. we've known him for quite a years. he put a lot of enthusiasm into his defense here. watch. >> for all this talk of chaos, i didn't see it. not from my perch. at one point during the evacuation there was an aircraft taking off, full of people, americans and afghans alike, every 48 minutes. not one single mission was missed. so i'm sorry, i don't buy the argument of chaos. it was tough in the first few hours. you would expect it to be. there was nobody at the airport, certainly no americans. took time to get in there. >> there was chaos, and we weren't only the ones who thought so. watch this. >> that the crowd size is

smaller now than it was in the first feysot experiencing to the degree we did, you know, last monday, the physical crush and chaos. >> you know, there was chaos. i don't understand the communication strategy here. a little humility could go a long way. of course the men and women in uniform did a great job, but they were given a terrible assignment. to blame it on the trump administration -- the biden administration overturned everything that trump did. at the border, on the economy. you can see all of that. the except for this, that doesn't make sense to me. >> the images belie this whole thing. the how about the marine carrying the 6-month-old baby over the barbed wire? the view on china and russia by this administration was set in stone, we believe, by the actions taken. that was conditions based. the taliban had to cut a deal with the acting government of kabul. otherwise a deal was not going to be enforced.

and the trump team will tell you that their whole idea was to keep bagram as an air base, keep it, not to give it up, and that was a decision that the biden administration made in the summer. >> and keep troops there. the department of defense told us within six months there could be a terrific attack from afghanistan on a western country. we have a lot to deal with in terms of that. >> okay. we could go on and on, but we shall stop for the moment. okay? we shall. the case was looking like a mystery. now it might be solved. wow. florida police have a major update they tell us in the killing of three teenagers. a few moments away we'll hear from the sheriff. shocking video from the southern border yet again. smugglers leading texas troopers in hot pursuit, speeds running in hot pursuit, speeds running almost a hundred miles an hour, an d almost running a texas cop.

>> fox news alert, awaiting for this. this is marion county, florida, northwest of orlando. investigators are about to give an update on a string of mysterious killings. three teenagers found shot to death in different locations. jonathan, good morning. >> bill, good morning. it appears that there's a break in the case. earlier this morning, the sheriff's office in marion county sent out an alert to media telling them that sheriff billy woods would hold a news conference during this hour to announce, quote, information regarding breaking news updates and arrests in the recent triple homicide. the sheriff says 15 investigators on the case have been gathering physical and digital evidence including security camera video of 16-year-old layla silvernail's

car, security camera video taken before and after she was fatally wounded. a witness heard gunshots and saw the vehicle, layla's vehicle, roll slowly into a dumpster at a rural construction site. >> as the vehicle drove off, and you know that the first victim's body was at the dumpster. so we can only preclude that the suspects at that time fled the scene in the victim's vehicle. >> on friday authorities discovered the body of a 17-year-old male, who had been shot and left on the side of the road. on saturday, they found layla's missing car. it was partially submerged in a lake with the body of a third gunshot victim, identified by family members as 16-year-old camille quarles. as for the 17-year-old victim, authorities are still withholding his identity at the request of his family, but investigators say all of the teens, the three victims, knew each other, and they believe it

was related to low-level gang activity. it appears there are some developments at the news conference. let's listen in. >> appreciate your patience. at this time let's introduce sheriff billy woods, sheriff of marion county, and some of our investigative team. >> first of all, i appreciate everybody being here. we're here for two reasons, because of an extremely tragic incident that's occurred, but on the other side of the coin a conclusion to that tragedy. as all of you are well aware, last thursday, march 30th, we received a call near forest lakes park, where our first victim, layla silvernail was located suffering from a gunshot

wound. she would later succumb to her injuries. the following morning we responded to a location about a half mile away, locating a second victim, deceased on the side of the road from an apparent gunshot wound. on saturday, april 1st, my deputies located layla's car, abandoned and partially submerged in a pond about 9 miles from the location where she was found. my investigators located the third victim inside of the car. i'll go ahead and telling you, because you've been asking me, for specific details, she was located in the trunk. now, i want to clear up, before we get into those details, based on the interviews, digital evidence from her phone, she was thereof her own free will.

now, i'm going to start off by thanking all of the entities. if there's ever a true example of law enforcement, communities, coming together, in an almost perfect collaboration to come to a conclusion in a week when a triple homicide is truly amazing. those entities include the fbi, fdle, u.s. marshal's office, and in my opinion probably the best state attorney in the state of florida for fifth judicial district, opd, my deputies, detectives, forensic professionals, and our citizens

they are truly amazing. now, this one is going to come as a shock to you. that includes you, the media. you helped us. you helped us for getting information. my emotions right now are all over the place. i am so, so proud of my guys and girls. i didn't do a damn thing. they stepped up to the plate. and yes, you, you put information out there. i'll admit this. you wore my ass out.

interviews, you hounded me. don't ever think i didn't use you as well to get the information i needed. now, the investigators were able to determine that this group of juveniles were involved in committing burglaries and robberies, which they referred to as a lick. now, although we had out there it was gang related, we had nothing specific to say it was any rivalry, anything to such that cause, but, however, each and every one of them, in some shape or form, is associated with a gang. basically, simple terms, there is no honor among thieves. at some point these three

individuals turned on our three victims and murdered them. two of them right there. they fled the scenes, but left a lot of evidence in their wake. through the cooperation of the agencies that i previously mentioned, and my office, we were able to begin compiling all of the evidence and finding these killers. we were shocked and saddened by the violence as all of my citizens, because we are shocked not only are the victims juveniles but the murderers are juveniles as well. i know each of you in the media here, viewers out there, have probably heard us in law enforcement, or even in community events, talk about what is the problem?

i'm going to go ahead and address the first thing that i know it's going to come up. because there are individuals out there viewing, and it includes some of you media, who want to blame the one thing that has no ability or the capacity to commit the crime itself. that's the gun. these individuals committed the crime. what's the solution? i wish i could give you that answer, because this world would be better. the fact is society fails us. we do not hold our juveniles accountable. we minimize their actions. let me tell you why i say this.

last night i had to stare into the eyes of two mothers. it's not their fault. because what i saw last night was two mothers who are willing to give their sons everything, do everything for them, and give them their own lives. just like you and i, no matter how much we teach them, because i am a father, i am a father, and i cannot fathom what they were going through. these mothers and mothers across this nation need all of your

help, because here's what infuriates me. i've got a particular media who has a problem with putting photos of juveniles out. now, we do what the law says we can do, put these photos out. i put myself in the shoes of those mothers, because i heard one of them say it, i wish i would have known what this one was doing and who they were, because my kid never would have hung out with them. and to think and believe to minimize any actions that is criminal of a juvenile is a disservice and frankly stupid to think. we need to hold them

accountable. and then hope we can change them. i'm not going to give you everything, because there is a third suspect we were unable to locate last night. but, however, you will receive -- you may already have it -- the probable cause affidavit that tells you the details of the events that occurred. i will tell you this. i already told you of the witness hearing the gunshots. that is when all three were

killed. the suspects were in the veh vehicle. this individual, who is a juvenile also, is who we're looking for. now, i'm talking to the viewers. some of you know him. you know where he is. you need to turn him in. now, i will get him, i will find him, and justice will be completed. as you can imagine, my thoughts are all over this page right now.

fighting these types of crimes requires all of us to come together as a community. marion county stepped up to the plate. we've been successful. now, i know i've forgotten something, i'm missing something, so i'll open up the floor to questions. >> what was the motive? >> mentioned it. robbery. >> i know you said the suspects were in the vehicles. are you all six were in there at one time? >> yes, ma'am. >> and so the three individuals, two that are in custody, the third, they turned on the other three in the vehicle? >> that's correct. >> in the commission of the

robbery of the three victims? >> not going to get into too many more of those details because of the third suspect being out. >> sheriff woods, did the suspects and the three dead teens, have you been able to determine how long they've known each other? >> short time. >> sheriff, you mentioned the gun. do we know how the suspects got ahold of the weapon? >> car burglaries. yeah, hmm. ain't that right. all the gun laws we got in place didn't prevent it, did it? neither will any new ones. because here's the fact, the bad guy is going to get a gun no matter what law you have put in place. these juveniles shouldn't even possess a handgun. but they did.

i'll go back to you, add to your question. a simple burglary, as some people will say, but i don't consider anything simple when it comes to a burglary. the law allows me, i'll plaster their face up on this page, up on my page, media, i will hand it out if the law allows me, because parents have the right to know to know who their kids are hanging out with, preventing this. [inaudible question] >> i didn't speak to them after the arrest immediately. i did speak to the mothers. they don't have a lot to say. if you're a parent, put yourself in their shoes. holy hell. panic. i'm scared to death as a parent. embarrassed, ashamed.

what do you think they're going to say? >> sheriff woods, do you know if these three juveniles will be tried as adults? >> all right. state attorney's office is reviewing that right now. i don't want to say yes, turn around no, and you'll end calling me a liar at some point, so -- >> to piggyback off of that, what does accountability look like? >> hmm. i will refrain a lot on that answer to this question. to the full extent of the law. don't take me wrong. i might be hard on people, but i also have a heart. i've already told you i am a father. but here's the one thing my boys know, growing up, the friggin' barber had my permission to whip

their asses. not only that, when this stuff came up on tv, i pointed -- i said, you don't have to worry about the law coming after you. full extent. because they took a life. are you all comprehending that? they took a life without thought. they deserve the full extent of the law. >> are these mugshots from previous incidents? minimum contact. i can tell you right now. i know somebody over here had a question. >> were the three vitamins part

of -- >> i don't want to give too much detailed information. okay? let me put it this way. my dad was a fireman. always said, where there's smoke there's fire. okay? folks, don't ask dumb ass questions. andy, i apologize, but really? do i have to spell it out to you? what do you think they were doing? they were associating with a gang. i've told some y'all in interviews, gangs don't go to church on sunday and then preach the gospel for the next six days. they're gangs because they commit crimes. how simple is this idea? where are we losing it? i know we're going long, but this is my press conference, not yours. >> sheriff, what about the other three? >> i can't divulge that. i wish i could tell you. i'll tell you when we get this one. okay?

i want to tell you everything. i really do. and since day one i've wanted to tell you anything. they've had a leash on me like you wouldn't believe. next. let's get somebody new. >> the timeline of the three victims in terms of when they were shot. was it all at once? >> you heard the bosses. hold back. >> how were you able to catch up with them? >> one subject on the previous photo, rob robinson, was in custody already at the juvenile detention facility. christopher atkins, the 12-year-old, we've located him at his house yesterday after serving a search warrant. >> were they surprised to see you show up? >> yes, they were very surprised

we showed up. >> are you able to make any statements as to what they said? >> i'll leave that to the sheriff. >> no. you'll get that eventually. of the we told you, he was in djj. he was arrested by opd the next morning after the murder. >> what were the charges on that? >> in a fray at the school. that's what i call a light bulb coming on right there. remember, i just talked about minimizing and holding students accountable. our school districts, not just here, i'm not going to point out just mine, school districts across the state and across this nation need to quit minimizing the actions of their students. hold them accountable. that's where the failure is.

>> do you know where the last suspect was seen? >> the last place he was seen. >> we're going to hold that one. >> was there just one gun? which one pulled the trigger? do we know that at this point? >> all right. some of that i'm not going to answer. some of it i will. the one i will is the two confessed to shooting our third victim. in the trunk. >> how many guns were involved? >> i'm not going to answer that one. i appreciate your questions. you wouldn't be doing your job if you didn't ask. any others? >> sir, the third suspect -- >> the community doesn't need to worry about him outside of i want them to find him. that's what they need to worry about, is locating him for me.

and they do, if you ain't ever watch my wanted by wednesday, that's successful, and they find them. i'll allow one more. >> are these juveniles all students at the same school? >> no. all righty. thank you. >> well, that was extraordinary, huh? that sheriff is disgusted and i would say angry, and fed up with the circumstances of this story. that's billy woods. we talked to him two days ago, dana, when he was on our air. he suggested an arrest would be imminent. 48 hours later at least two of the three have been arrested. paul morrow is with us now. what did you think of that? that was something else. >> yeah, that really was. you know, very clearly the sheriff put a lot of resources into this right away. they had some idea. my gut tells me from watching him that the crew -- this is a

known phenomenon, the young, wannabe loose gang affiliation. up in new york, they call them crews, coalescing into a small group, gets neighborhood, and later affiliated with a more established gang. that's what he seems to be saying here. he probably already had intel already on activities of this crew. when this happened, they might have had some contacts to go at. they had the three victims, some commonality. according to what he's saying, the three victims did not know for very long the people that killed them. that would have been the tough spot to put together. the other thing that's tough, investigating juveniles is very, very tough. from the ages of the victims, it's very easy to infer that likely the perps were of a similar age. you get into legal issues, cultural issues. kids don't want to give up kids. they don't want to have the retaliation. they don't want to have a rat

reputation around school. so it's very, very hard to get to them. hard to get them to talk. furthermore, even if you do identify them, there's miranda issues. they have to be voluntarily, knowingly and intelligently able to wave miranda to talk to you. generally what that means, you got to bring in the parents. generally what the parent wants is to bring in a lawyer. you have to go through stuff. during this press conference, he thanked a lot of people. he made a point of thanking the state prosecutor. >> why is that? >> because he got the prosecutor in early. that was the thing i was hoping for all along. i watched your interview with him. bill, you were able to elicit that information, arrests were imminent. i was saying to myself, are they young kids? i hope the prosecutor is in so he's guiding this legally, so when the time comes, looking at arrests and indictments, there are no miranda issues, so the evidence gets thrown out. if the way they got this, comes from, one particular witness, that witness was underage, interviewed in a way that

violates miranda, all of that goes away. cops deal with this all the time. it breaks away, it takes the case with it. >> the two that are in custody, one of them was only 12 years old. >> 12 years old, yeah. >> that they can confessed to killing the third victim that they found in the trunk. >> right. >> so the way the scenario sounds like it played out, from what we can glean from the press conference, is they were in the car together. it sounds like something went bad between them. i don't want to submit why the three victims were -- speculate why the three victims were there. it's a park it happened. they were asking for information starting thursday 10:38 p.m. in another one of his press releases. it was late at night, dark in a park, you can speculate why they were there together, something goes bad. they were a robbery crew. he said that. at some point in there, maybe there's a transaction at some point that goes bad. they decide this is a rip-off, it's not a transaction. they kill the three.

then they decide that they're going to dump the bodies in different areas. >> just listening to him talk, he's fed up with all of it. >> yeah. >> i mean, as a public official, it's remarkable at how blunt he was. >> yeah. he really was. you know, he hayes been very forward all along here. he put out, like, a day or two after the incident, he put out a video that he said, look, i'm going to tamp down the rumors out there. he said, we don't have a serial killer here, we don't have this, don't have that. then he dumped something very pointed. he said, i want to talk to all of you out there now. you know what happened. what he was doing, he was trying to get to their peers. it goes to the thing i was talking about, trying to get to the kids, to beak ranks, tell us what happened. the kids probably the next day knew what happened. because you know what happened. you got to get to us. you got to let us know. that's what he was doing here as well. >> he said the parents didn't know their kids were hanging out with these eventual killers.

>> yeah. you know, kids these days -- >> one was in juvenile detention the day before. >> they live in a world these days, and i think the cyber phenomenon is part of that, live in a world beyond the reach of their parents in many ways, you know, in every area of the country. one of the things i'm sure they confronted in this case, i guarantee you a lot of what they got they got from digital information, the phones, the apps, all of that. parents, have a plan. you know, your kid is not going to give you their password. have a plan, god forbid something happens, have your password stashed some place i can get at it, because without getting into those phones, law enforcement is hamstrung. it's so key. ultimately here we got into one of the phones, they see the texts, see them arranging the meeting, and i think that probably broke it, along with a witness. >> old-school sheriff. >> old school, yet using moder