>> all right. former illinois governor rob blagojevich has called it a case of simply uncontrolled weaponized prosecutors. we'll speak to the former government in a second and alexandra hoff on the same thing when prosecutors go overboard. >> that's right, jim jordan sent a letter already asking a lot of questions and right now, trump's legal team saying they're looking to have this case completely dismissed on

several grounds such as prosecutorial misconduct and selective prosecution and as well as how much time has passed since the alleged crimes. >> we're looking at statute of limitations and a whole host of motions that are going to be levied here, and this case won't see a jury in my opinion. >> and turning himself in historic criminal charges, 34 felony counts brought forth by manhattan district attorney bragg, accusing him of hush money payments to stormy daniels and mcdougall. >> daniels says if the case goes to trial, she wants to testify. >> i think having them call me in and put me on the stand let

legitimizes my story and and oh, she must not be a good witness, she's not credible. >> as for republicans, it's the credibility of prosecution that's in question. yesterday, house judiciary chairman jim jordan wrote a letter to the d.a.'s office for new york county requesting documents and testimony relevant to their investigation into bragg's case. quote, if state or local prosecutors are able to engage in politically motivated prosecutions of presidents of the united states currently or former, this could be how presidents choose how to exercise their powers while in office. president trump has remained adamant on social media that there was no crime. neil: thank you for that. my next guest knows a lot of what donald trump is going through, rod blagojevich, a democrat. he could relate to what the former president is going through right now. he himself was indicted and arraigned and served nearly

eight years in prison until his sentence was commuted by president trump in 2020. and he's joining us right now. governor, thank you. >> thank you, neil, nice to be back. neil: now you know a lot of what the former president is going through and could be going through. claimed that this weaponization on the part of bragg is a pattern, you've seen it before, maybe you could explain. >> let me start by saying my heart aches for president trump and his family and i know what it's like to go through something like this. my heart makes more for the country, prosecuting people for things at that aren't crime. they did it to me long ago, and i fought back. they tried me twice and failed to convict me of fake corruption charges and tried a second time, and used an unlawful standard the supreme court expressly said wasn't the law to get convictions for things that are legal. and now i see what they're

doing to president trump. they did it to me triple-a level and now a former president, and it happens over time. when they got away with it with a governor, they trained their weapons and now, been doing what they're doing to president trump since he became a president trying to change things in washington and i would say to fellow democrats, put aside-- put your country first, put your oath of office and defend the constitution first and pof your hatred of president trump, join the other side. as americans we must start these sort of things, we're facing the possible of real tyranny where rights of choosing leaders are stolen from us. neil: many in your party, the democratic party agree with you and fear they've created a frankenstein and marshalled support for his campaign base, more than $12 million since the

indictment first came to light and they might be careful what they wish for. the understanding was maybe try to make donald trump the nominee because he's beatable. that didn't work in 2016. so as a democrat, what do you think of that? >> i think the democrats, my fellow democrats should be thinking less about politics and more about the constitution. yes, this is a frankenstein monster, but they're looking at a politically. they ought to think what it's doing to our constitution and the rule of law. our founding fathers created a country designed on checks and balances and they recognize human nature's tendency to abuse power and what they've done to a democrat governor, me a long time ago, they're doing to a republican president and when the tables are turned they'll do it to a democratic president and this is destroying our republic. i'll say to my fellow democrats, put aside partisan politics and hatred of trump, put your love of country first. this is so obviously not criminal what they're charging president trump with and other things they're talking about doing are obviously not

criminal. don't politicize the criminal justice system. stop this weaponization of it and let's put some check and balance on these uncontrolled prosecutors who are destroying our democracy. neil: now, you mentioned this particular case, the president is dealing with, governor. of course, there are others that could be pending including an investigation into the georgia recount whether he interfered with that, the classified documents stuff and i could go on and on. do you think that it's a pile-on? >> absolutely, of course. look, the whole thing has been just a big persecution of donald trump. the russian collusion thing. what they do, they give them fancy named. they call mine a sale, and it was never a crime, and there were political conversations that began with president-elect obama and we discussed personal deals not anything to do with personal gain or money. and the telephone call with the ukrainian president,

impeachable and january 6th, reckless people broke the law, and they should be prosecuted for what they did. and he made a call to georgia, i need votes to win and this is not criminal. the democrats are unfortunately putting partisan politics above their responsibility to protect our constitution. i'm a democrat, still am a democrat, but i would urge my democrats, you are creating a frankenstein monster and you're getting-- you're going to rue the day that you've been allowing this monster to grow and get more powerful because it will devour you one day as well. neil: governor, you were a savvy politician in office, this whole issue that landed you in prison notwithstanding, the fact of the matter is, you could read the political tea leaves closely. asa hutchinson running for the republican nomination himself, former arkansas governor, says he agrees with a lot you are

saying about prosecutorial overreach, but that given these problems and more cases to come, that the president should step out of the race, that is donald trump. he's obviously not heeding that, but what do you think of that? >> i think that's wrong on many counts. first of all, it's politically motivated by mr. hutchinson running against him. and the president top in the country responsibility to the constitution. neil: he's the only candidate saying that among the republicans, maybe to your point he's trying to stand out among the field. what do you think? >> well, i think he's wrong. i think it almost disqualifies him as being a president, a president has the responsibility to serve and protect the constitution. he himself says he's a weaponized prosecutors. why would you let weaponized prosecutors get away with destroying our constitution and charging somebody, a former president with i think so this that aren't crimes? i want a president that's going to stand up and fight back to preserve the rule of law and i believe that president trump has a duty not only to defend

himself, but a duty to all of us to defend the rule of law. he knows that he didn't break any laws. and the people persecuting him know he didn't break any laws. i speak from my own life experience. and you have a responsibility when you have a high office like that, president, governor, to never give in to that. we took oaths of office and those should mean something and there's something more than the immediate politics of today. it's our responsibility to self-government, the constitution, and the right of the people to choose their leaders and elections. you get a corrupt politician taking money in a brown paper bag, by all means prosecute him, but don't prosecute leaders for political things that aren't crimes. neil: back to your weaponization argument, a lot of people concurred, governor. do you think that the republican house risks weaponizing things itself, using their powers to try to get alvin bragg to speak, other prosecutors to go before them, that it's a tit-for-tat when it comes to weaponization?

>> no, no, i think it's the opposite. i think that house republican committee has the responsibility to exercise oversight, the congress and calling on fellow democrats to join those republicans to exercise oversight on these weaponized prosecutors. by the way i with i shall they'd throw in the wprosecutors that did what they did to me, this should not be a partisan thing. the risk for the republicans in the house if what they turn into what they're doing into investigations into democrats. stop that stuff and investigate uncontrolled prosecutors who have turned themselves into political weapons and persecutors. we need checks and balance on their uncontrolled power, they are the ones the biggest threat to our democracy and election integrity. neil: are you saying, sir, if they just go after democrats, that would be mistake? >> i think this going after the other party for political reasons is wrong, whether it's a republican doing it to a democrat or a democrat doing it to a republican.

i think we're getting carried away with this. i think, again, this process unfolds over time. i think these republican appointees by bush who did to me what they did, established a precedent that now has invited democrat prosecutors to do what they're doing to president trump and unfortunately, the democratic elected officials and republican elected officials, who have a higher responsibility to do justice and protect the constitution need to rise above partisan politics and stop persecuting people for political gain, for the immediate political gain and recognize there's something higher and more responsible and that is to preserve our republic. i believe this is the most dangerous time to our republic since south carolina fired the first shots at for the sumpter that started the civil war. neil: in the meantime, governor, as a former governor of illinois, i'm sorry you saw the chicago mayoral election that the candidate was deemed to be the tougher one on crime or spoke of being tougher on

crime lost and the progressive candidate won, in other words, many have said that he will just be like mayor lori lightfoot now. your thoughts? >> well, i think he's further to the left of actually mayor lightfoot and there's some concerns that we-- many people have in chicago because of the high crime rate. carjackings, for example up 173% in the city and our mayor-elect's solution is not more cops and more social workers, i'm not saying we don't need more social workers, but we have an urgent need in chicago for more police. i've had eight years of experience living with people convicted felons in prison, thousands of them, not all of them are bad guys, a lot are good guys, but most of them are criminals. and criminal behavior is such when the police aren't in the way they have an opportunity to commit crimes. when police are not feeling backed by political leaders, criminals know that, too. the reason we have a high crime wave in chicago today is

because of the criminals, the gang bangers, the police have been on the run and the democratic political leadeleade and i'm a # democrat, and when mayor daley was mayor, used to be for the police. there are bad cops, i've experienced it, but you don't solve the problem of crime by getting rid of all the police, because in my experience, the street cops for one bad one there are 10 good runs, maybe 100 good ones. and so i think that the police officers understand that the politicians don't have their backs and the criminals know that, too, and that's why we have the crime we have in chicago and i wish this new mayor well and i hope he comes up with policies that are effective on crime and urge him very much to use common sense and recognize the only thing that's going to stop these criminals are the police. neil: governor, finally, are you allowed to run for office?

and if so, would you? >> well, they've passed a law which i firmly believe is unconstitutional in illinois that prevents me from running for any state or local office. ironically i could run for president of the united states, god save the republic, but i couldn't run for the 33rd ward of chicago. i can run for president, but i can't run for governor of illinois or for chicago, i can run for federal office, but not for state office. i'm the only one targeted like that so i think the law is blatantly unconstitutional. but neil, my wife, loving, devoted, wonderful mother, defied the odds and stayed with me, if i run for political office i might lose the most important thing in my life and that's her. i don't see me do doing it. it's a long hard road for me. and i cry for my country, because i see what they're doing to president trump is just so wrong and i know from firsthand experience how wrong it is, so, i just hope this

kind of thing stops. neil: thank you, governor, very much. very interesting views on things and still extremely fast on your feet, sir. thank you again, governor blagojevich. on all of that heeding the advice of his wife, we'll see. taking a look at the border, cartels out of control. wait until you hear how clever they are by half to try to reach your kids after this. weeds... they have you surrounded. take your lawn back with scotts turf builder triple action! gets three jobs done at once - kills weeds. prevents crabgrass. and keeps it growing strong. get a bag of scotts triple action today, it's guaranteed. feed your lawn. feed it.

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>> all right, the border is always open, it seems right now, even easter weekend. in fact, particularly easter weekend. what we're seeing from eagle pass, texas with matt finn. >> neil, this past week we have not seen those larger groups of 100 plus. we're told, believe it or not, that perhaps the holy week is being honored right now so it will be interesting to see, you know, what the next couple of weeks look like. while we're not seeing those

major groups cross over the rio grande here, texas dps and other states are consistently busting illegal migrants, one is in yuma sector over in arizona. border patrol there say that migrants cover themselves in tan sheets in an effort to blend in with the desert floor after illegally crossing the border this week. and near fort brown, texas, agents eased over 100 pounds of marijuana seizures, this fiscal year, more than 11,000 pounds recovered. and texas dps seizing more than 1.3 million doses of fentanyl in a single bust, a traffic stop in colbertson county. this week, governor abbott announced his one pill kills campaign that will give $10 million to educate texans on fentanyl and the program will perhaps more importantly ship 20,000 doses of fentanyl reversing narcan to every

county in texas. >> last year 2,012 texans lost their lives because of fentanyl. when you think about it, that is on average more than five people in texas losing their life every day because of fentanyl. >> and governor greg abbott emphasized something that we hear quite often, that one of those single pacts of sugar, if fentanyl was in there would be lethal enough to kill 500 people, neil. neil: amazing. matt, thank you for that. in the meantime, a congressional effort, and a bipartisan effort by that, to stop cartels from using our kids unwittingly to pass the drugs along. chad has more. >> neil, it's a sneaky back doorway to use teens as unwitting couriers. if you want to get kid, go where they hang out, online. the cartels recruit the kid on

instagram and tik tok. >> some of these ads look like regular commercial, totally appropriate, totally normal ads. you know, willing to pay somebody a couple hundred bucks to move my car from point a to point b. on its face, some of these ads look like the sort of, kind of gig economy type jobs that might be available. >> spanberger teamed up to write the bill and the social media firms track the trend they see in algorithms and target the cartels when they spot something. >> they post messages targeted at youth promising thousands of dollars for, as they call it, the simple task of driving people up north. youth are falling for this and they're many times unknowingly engaging in very dangerous and illegal activities in the trafficking of humans cross the border. >> the cartels prey on cash trapped teens and sometimes end with criminal consequences for

those the cartels recruitedments my advice to teenagers, don't go, don't go and answer the snap chat ad. you're going to ruin your life. >> lawmakers say it would reduce the trafficking and fentanyl through ports of entry, neil. neil: chad. thank you for that. meanwhile, if you're travelling this weekend or already traveled, you're probably aware there are hassles in the air and on the ground. we'll break them down after this. these aren't just shipments. they're promises. big promises. small promises. cuddly shaped promises. each with a time and a place they've been promised to be. and the people of old dominion never turn away a promise. or over promise. or make an empty promise. we keep them. a promise is everything to old dominion, because it means everything to you. are you feeling sluggish or weighed down? metamucil's new fiber plus collagen can help.

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>> all right. you're not imagining it, gas prices are going up and, well, travelling by air is getting to be more of a hassle because you have a lot of company both on the road and certainly up in the skies. lydia has more. >> neil, the federal aviation

administration is grappling with a nationwide shortage on air traffic controllers. and the short term solution is to allow major airlines in airports to reduce their schedules by as much as 10%. fewer flights means less congestions and fewer delays, but experts say that also means higher ticket prices. watch this. >> the airlines are now reducing flights in and out of new york, means fewer flights and fewer seats and that means fewer low fare seats, so don't wait for that. >> the air traffic controller shortage is a nation-wide problem, but especially back here in the new york city area. according to the f.a.a., the air traffic control center on long island is staffed at about 54% of what's needed, that's below the current national average of 81%. the airlines do nothing, the f.a.a. predicts summertime travel delays could increase by 45% over last year.

what do you think is worse, more delays and chaos or more expensive flights? >> i think we're going to stay home. >> we don't want to travel less, because i can't afford to travel as much if it's more expensive. >> a problem with the situation in management and it has nothing to do with the number of people travelling. i think they just have to work on the system. they have to be better at their management. >> a reduction in flights impacts the new york city area airports, but experts say the travel issues could ripple across the region, maybe even the country. so, for anyone travelling this summer, expect fewer scheduled flights, higher ticket prices and what sounds like more headaches, neil. back to you. >> all right. lydia, thanks. and well, american airlines and jetblue have announced that they're cutting some routes and flights because of the f.a.a. shortage, that's what they seem to be pointing to. excuse me. i want to go to kyle bailey, the pilot aviation, former

safety team member. kyle, i apologize for my voice. what is going on when the airlines cite the f.a.a. for curtailing flights? >> you know, it's all a result, you know, partially from the pandemic. the f.a.a. pretty much froze hiring for a period of time, which caused an air traffic control shortage. you know, one interesting thing here, neil, i was on the f.a.a. website just before your show and they're looking for controllers, but the 2022 hiring window for those controllers is closed for the year. it says check back soon. so they're crying that they need controllers, but yet, somebody who wants to apply, cannot apply for a job as an air traffic controller. you'd think they'd figure it out at the higher levels of the f.a.a. by now. neil: you know, we've had some near misses, some, you know, planes bumping into each other, nothing that catastrophic, but you worry in this environment with all that's going on.

what do you think? >> you know, these things are happening, but i tell everyone, the bottom line is the system does work and the end result is to prevent human injury and fatalities and we're seeing that work perfectly. there's no human injuries, there's no fatalities and the system is doing what it's designed to do even with the big f.a.a. shutdown, i'm sorry, the air traffic shutdown. everything was stopped and passengers inconvenienced, but the bottom line, the system worked and prevented tragedy and you know, we've been almost two decades without a major u.s. passenger plane crash on u.s. soil. neil: i know, in the meantime, people are putting up with, or maybe getting used to hassles when they fly or flight delays, but i wonder in the case of these flyers who suddenly saw planned flights just outright canceled, sometimes with day's

notice at that. what do they do, options and protections? i thought we had a passenger bill of rights here. where does that stand? >> you know, there is passenger bill of rights and the passengers could actually file a report or a filing with the department of transportation on their website and then they will get a response on that end, but often when you have mass delays and interruptions, everything is pretty much backlogged, the phone lines. social media seems to work very well if you tweet the airline, people tell me that works well, but the bottom line, when you have tens of thousands of stranded passengers dialing 800 phone numbers and on the internet, systems don't work perfectly and it's very hard to do, but i would say the best would be social media or the internet. forget the 800 phone numbers, they pretty much don't work and become a little too saturated. neil: you know, you would be the best advisor on this, but when people find out literally at the gate when the flight is canceled there's a ticket

agency right at the gate, but i see a lot of people are quickly on their smart phones, they're not going to the ticket agent. what's the proper procedure or at least the better procedure for average travelers? >> well, if your flight is delayed or canceled, you pretty much have to ask if you're not offered something, and a lot of times these airlines say like at newark airport, an airline like united might have 100 rooms blocked at the local hotel, just all the time for stuff that might pop up. so, they have the hotel rooms, but the passenger should, obviously, very politely, you know, demand that they're somehow compensated or get accommodations, you know, as a result of a disruption. if it's not the airline's fault, if it's weather, obviously, that's not the airline's problem, but-- >> i'm hearing you, i'm just going to say, well, kyle told

me to do this. i'm going to use your name because it carries great weight in the air travel industry. kyle, thank you very very much. good seeing you. >> happy easter, neil. neil: to you as well, my friend. all right, we're update you now on what's going on around taiwan. the island is getting increasingly surrounded by chinese ships and war planes and the like. very little margin for error here and a lot of this as u.s. representatives are still in taiwan. that's what irked the chinese to begin with after this. lowe's knows the first step to motivation is inspiration. so, we've got new everything. new flooring, new paint, new patio sets, new pillows. i can keep going if you want me to. you got this. and we got you.

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>> more violence, right now in tel aviv, ruining the holy days in israel right now. the very latest from our trey yingst in tel aviv. trey. >> neil, good morning. overnight, one person was killed and seven wounded here in tel aviv when a man rammed his car through a crowd of people before firing a weapon. this took place in israel's second largest city along the boardwalk, along mediterranean. a nearby police officer rushed to the scene and killed the attacker immediately. this comes after another shooting in the jordan valley by a palestinian gunman that killed two israelis. police are searching for the shooter. the rising violence has been coupled with rocket fire from gaza and lebanon, along with

unrest at mosque. passover, tomorrow, the christian holiday of easter. and they've continued attacking israel until this delicate time is over. israel braces for the possibility of further attacks. when you talk to israelis, they are reminded of other violent times in this country's history and there's a real understanding here that this wave of violence could get worse before it gets better. neil. neil: thank you, trey. be safe. trey yingst in tel aviv. with that we'll keep you posted with new developments. and updating on the taiwan and china situation. china has ships surrounding the island as we speak. there's very little margin for error as they keep penetrating a barrier they're not supposed to, that is the chinese. rob wittmann of virginia was

one of the first to visit with the president when came to the u.s. and the reagan library. sir, great to have you. >> good to be with you, neil. neil: you know, this response seems disproportionate to the meeting that you and the speaker had with the taiwan president, but it is what it is and the chinese are not at all happy. what do you think of this? >> well, it's typical chinese bullying behavior and we've heard from xi jinping from the moment he came into power 11 years ago that their focus was to reunify with taiwan and they're been vocal about that. the key for the united states to make sure that the chinese communist party does not dictate what the united states does. it shouldn't dictate how we interact with taiwan. it shouldn't dictate anything that we do. we already have too many strategic liabilities that are caused by china's behavior around the world. capitulation is not a policy

that the united states should in any way, shape, or form put forward in relation to china's demands. neil: yet, nevertheless, sir, as you know, the taiwanese defense minister claimed 71 chinese military planes and at least nine ships have crossed the taiwan strait median line. it's as if china is not acknowledging that line and repeatedly and flagrantly passing over it. to you, is that an act of war preparation? >> well, neil, we have seen the chinese communist party pursue this type of behavior multiple times in years past. neil: right. >> they've flown into taiwanese air space, they've also surrounded taiwan on several occasions so this is not atypical of their bullying behavior. the key is, is they are wanting a response from the united states to not do the things that we have to do in the

region to make sure we're countering the chinese communist party so we cannot capitulate to that. they want to, somehow, impact our behavior and we just can't let that happen. neil: so what do you recommend? put more ships in the area, around taiwan, or how would you recommend they do it? >> well, listen, neil, i think the big thing is communications. the thing that's disappointing to me is that when the united states officials call officials in china, many times the chinese won't answer the phone. i think communications to this is key. you know, we don't want to find ourselves in a conflict, but that doesn't mean that we should capitulate to china. i think making very, very certain that our actions are about having that conversation, about assuring that both countries can co-exist in the region, but not capitulating to the ccp. neil: all right, congressman, thank you. keep us posted and have a safe

easter in the meantime, sir. thank you again. >> thank you. neil: all right. in the meantime here, we're still getting an update on ow things are going down in nashville right now. vice-president harris met with those who were expelled from that august chamber. it was a rallying cry for her, but it was it a legitimate rallying cry? we're on it after this. i don't want to outlive our money. i keep eating all these chia seeds. i could live to be 100. we work with empower, even if we do live to 100 we don't have to worry. eh, not worried. take control of your financial future to empower what's next. ♪hit it!♪ ♪it takes two to make a thing go right♪ ♪ ♪it takes two to make it outta sight♪ ♪one, two, get loose now! it takes two to make a-♪ stay two nights and get 8,000 bonus points. book now at bestwestern.com (cecily) you're looking pleased with yourself. (seth) not to brag, but i just switched to verizon.. (cecily) so you got an awesome network... (seth) and when i switched,

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>> all right. to nashville, we're going to take you right now. vice-president harris was in the city yesterday meeting with two representatives who were expelled staging protests on the house floor, whether things are calming down or settling down is anyone's guest. charles is there. >> all calm out here so far, but vice-president harris, not only touched on gun reform during her visit here to nashville, we also showed her support for the three tennessee

lawmakers who were the subject of those expulsion votes, take a listen. >> it's about who they were representing. it's about whose voices they were channelling. understand that. and is that not what a democracy allows? a democracy says you don't silence the people. the underlying issue is about fighting for the safety of our chi children. >> and president biden also met with the trio of democrats via video call. he thanked them for their leadership and forced action on gun reform, and a gunman killed six people, including three young children. there was this on the state house led by representatives justin jones, justin pearson and gloria johnson.

republicans, who have a super majority in tennessee say the protest broke decorum and got out of hand. the vote to expel jones and pearson, they voted to expel jones and pearson, rather, who are both black. >> i think that it's important for the public to understand how the body works, tennessee general assembly works, it works with order, with rules. you take order and rules out, it doesn't work. >> and republicans narrowly failed to exspell johnson a white woman who says she played a lesser role in the protests and the outcome has fomented accusations of racism from all three democratic lawmakers, claims republicans deny. >> this is undemocratic. this is wrong. this is perpetuation of patriarchy and white supremacy. >> and neil, the two democrats who were expelled are eligible

under tennessee state law to run for reelection once special elections are held so officially fill those vacant seats so we could see them back at the tennessee state house in a matter of weeks. neil: charles watson, thank you. reverend franklin graham is here to say everyone has to bring it down a little bit given the exteam tensions and violence we've seen in the country. he recommends we look to a higher authority after this. if you're anything like me,

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>> all right. we need calmer heads here and we also need calmer hearts and spirits after the reverend franklin graham, from the billy

graham association message for us on this channel, easter message from rome noon tomorrow. reverend, it's always good having you on, following in the footsteps of your father here, you try in these crazy times to bring it down a notch or two. that's easier said than done particularly with everything that went on this past week. how do you help people to do that? >> well, neil, when we see the chaos and the anger and the frustration in the world, the upheaval, one thing we must remember, god does not change. god is the same yesterday, today, tomorrow, he doesn't and his laws don't change and his love doesn't change. god loves us and cares for us, and that's what easter is all about. this is a demonstration of god's love by sending his son and jesus christ is god in the flesh. god came to save us by taking our sins and pouring out his

blood on cross, buried and on the third day taking his life back up, jesus christ isn't dead, he's alive and neil, if we confess our sins and turn from them and believe on the name lord jesus christ, the bible says we should be saved. in the midst of this chaos in the world, when we see the war in europe and all the problems in asia, god loves us and he's still on the throne and he doesn't change and his love for us hasn't changed and so, as we come to easter, i hope people will examine their own hearts and lives and see where they stand before god. if they never invited christ into the heart, they can do that by saying, god, save me, forgive me, and that prayer, god will hear from heaven and he'll answer that prayer because he loves us and he cares for us, neil. neil: you know, reverend, a lot of people hear that and

encouraged by that, and a world where god isn't showing up and increased violence on the holy days in israel, upping tensions around taiwan with china sending dozens of warships there, and other planes and such, to say nothing of the divisions here that came to light in tennessee with the ouster of these two representatives and all, and some screaming racism and others indifference, talking past each other and screaming past each other so people will come back to you, reverend, saying, where is god in the middle of this. >> well, god has a movement and we as a nation, we have moved from god. we've taken god out of our education system, we've taken god out of our government and we've taken god out of our everyday life, and then, for entertainment, we watch on television and show after show after show that has gun violence for entertainment and

then, we think that doesn't play an effect on our children? of course, it does. but we've taken god, neil, out of everything and the nation's not better for this. we are worse and it's continuing to get worse. it's not going to get better, neil. i think it's going to get worse, but i want people to know that god does love us and he can change us individually and we'd put our faith and trust in him he'll give us a new heart and redirect our lives. so, this is what the work that i do, neil. i'm in the business of telling people about god's love and every day we see people's lives change, but this world is going to get worse not better, neil, because we've turned our back on god. neil: you've devoted your whole life to this, reverend, and doing good and trying to make a difference and trying to preach that message of god, peace and love. do you ever get frustrated when it appears to fall on deaf ears though? i mean, the people you reach and talk to, they do respond,

but you're on the airwaves all the time now, and yet, it's pretty clear that a lot of people do not respond. >> well, of course, there are a lot of people who don't believe in god and always have been god haters and we see a lot of god haters in our government. and so, yes, that's there, but i don't get discouraged, neil. i want to try to reach as many people as i can and warn people that when christ comes back, he's coming to judge this world. he came to save us the first time, but when he comes the second coming of christ, he's coming as a judge and he's going to judge each and every one of us. we're going to have to stand before him, neil, and i hope people are ready. and the only way, accepting him as savior and making him the lord of their life. neil: and we've talked about the church attendance is down and hearing the same at synagogues and the muslim faith, attendance at services

is not what it was, you hear the reports of parochial schools closing left and right and particularly catholic schools and the like. so, even children aren't getting the opportunity that you talk of. what's your biggest worry then? >> oh, well, it's not that i have a worry because i know that god has already written the last pages of history and i've read those pages in the bible so i know what's coming and i know who wins in the end. i'm not concerned, neil. this is all something god has told us that's going to come so we just have to continue to work while we have the opportunity to work, to warn people, to encourage people to put their faith and trust in god, that god loves them and that he cares for us. that's important for people to know as we come to easter where the world is seeing so much problem. they need to know that god hasn't turned his back on them. neil: reverend, you speak to our better angels and devoted

your life to that, as has your father. i think that people appreciate that. it can be frustrating, i'm sure, sometimes, but you don't appear to be frustrated. easter message from rome tomorrow on fox news at 12 p.m., at noon, to put everything in perspective as uniquely as he can. reverend, thank you very much. >> thank you, neil. neil: that will do it here. it's a reminder coming from the reverend that we can get. unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasker supporting 6 key indicators of brain health. to help keep me sharp. neuriva: think bigger. lowe's knows deals, so you can find the color you like at a price you love. buy one get one 50% off on 1-gallon cans and 5-gallon pails of hgtv home® by sherwin-williams and cabot®. shop springfest deals now, only at lowe's.

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