>> happy easter, everyone, i'm cheryl casone along with joey jones, lisa booth and david web webb and welcome to the big sunday show. the big story tonight, possible pardon for army sergeant convicted in shooting death of black lives matter protestor. on friday jury found sergeant daniel perry guilty of murder that at the time in -- even police detectives found it was in self-defense. texas governor greg abbott is working swiftly to make the

pardon happen. abbott blaming radical prosecutor jose garza funded by george soros in election 2 years ago. governor stating, texas has the strongest stand your ground law of self-defense that cannot be nullified by jury of progressive district attorney. sergeant perry claims he acted in self-defense when a mob of protestors surrounded car and one of them pointed gun at him. the texas lieutenant governor also weighing. >> he should never have been charged with murder. detective says there's evidence that would not have had him indicted and the detective argued over the da over this. when you have the justice system write down at da and court level -- >> something has -- well, that's the deal. cheryl: joey, the lead

directive, he sign ad sworn affidavit and signed garza's office and the police in the area said not guilty. >> i don't know all the evidence but i can take a step back about stand your ground law in texas. i can tell that governor abbott is not using conjecture when he says it is the strongest. it include a case where a man shot through a door at teenage boys harassing his daughter, kid killed one of them and it was self-defense. in the state of texas, the reasonable believe that you're going to be harmed is absolutely defended, absolutely within the law. if the case is as presented by the sergeant and now governor abbott that a gun was pointed at him in close proximity, i don't see how the jury convicted him of murder. it doesn't add up with the

precedent case in texas and things should be. cheryl: he was driving an uber and surrounded, this was 2020, black lives matter protest. but in court they said that -- his defense said he had a second to react if he was going live or die himself because to be clear the person that he shot was holding ak47, pointed at him. >> maybe to joey's point maybe t reason he was found guilty was the evidence withheld from the grand jury. he told them to exclude all of the exculpatory evidence proving that sergeant was acting in self-defense. he's at the army, fort hood trying to make extra bucks as uber driver. they surround his car, fingerprints all over the car. people pounding on the car, some guy holds up an ak47.

are you not going to think that your life is at risk? you're going to act in self-defense as he did. what did the da want him to do, die? no, really. that's ultimately what the guy is saying. ultimately sit there and die and the sad thing is with the george soros da like this, he probably wouldn't pursue charges against the that shot him. justice in soros america. cheryl: alexander soros, david, this is george soros son, george soros is 92 year's old. alexander soros he chairs the open society foundation. >> worst than his father. >> multiple, multiple visits to the biden white house since 2021. 14 times he's been at state dinners. he gets access to the creme de la creme of the democratic party. >> by the way, this is a path

that began some time ago. first stand your ground law in texas, at one point i was also in texas. it's what is the circumstance around you that all contributing factors, pounding on his car, surrounding his car, carrying a long gun, ak47, what happens in that moment? you literally have seconds to determine. to the point of george soros, george soros is an evil man. his son alexander is worse. let me say that to the nation. he is worse. he's continuing the track. when i look at the tracks and bureau statistics gather this, 40% of the nation's murders are presided over by soros' backed da's. 1 and 5 americans are under these da's and overhaul began in 2015 and has been well written about, well documented in fec records, contributions to organizations, in alvin bragg's case, the organization pledged a

million dollars to his campaign. they got a million dollars from soros. they put 500,000 immediately into his campaign and 1% candidate literally charged the president of the united states with nonexistent photo copy crime. when you see this, it crosses all spectrum of society. this man in -- this soldier, this service member who by the way should not drive an uber -- having to take a second job to defend us. that's a whole other story but this is what's going on in america and it's effective because if you undermine the article 3 courts in this country, you undermine the constitution, you undermine the state constitution. cheryl: to be clear because i did look at the facts to have case, he got out of there after the shooting happened. >> calls 911. >> calls 911 and waits patiently and he tells them what happened and the police, the lead directive who testified this in court said that we are not

pressing charges. it was a clear-cut case of self-defense but the fact that one of our servicemen has to work in obiter make extra dollars -- >> we can spend a lot of money in the military, it doesn't mean that we will spend money often men and women serving. they usually vote towards one side about it. there's a lot of political reasons about him driving an uber. a tweet in 2015 responding to protests and he believed that they were acting in a manner that they could be shot in the right situation and what they tried to do frame this looking for trouble. i remember a young man named kyle riddenhouse but it was the circumstances of the moment, not

the things that led up to it. even if he got in his uber and went down to the protest, counterprotest, the truth is the man was surrounded in his car, felt threatened for his life and used illegal means to protect himself and i think that's what the governor is acting on. now, the governor doesn't quite have full authority to pardon. the review board has to bring it to him and we will see if that happens. cheryl: he's requesting that that is going to happen. >> they are trying to create a world where we are defenseless yet the criminals are empowered and if you try to defend yourself then you're guilty. remember they did this to jose alba, the clerk in new york city, he defended himself. cheryl: bodega worker. >> only because there was such an outcry that the case being dropped. again, you have a case soros da where someone tries to -- god forbid defend themselves and yet they are the ones treated as a criminal. >> where i come from there's a saying i rather be tried by 12

than carried by six. that only goes so far as a fair trail and that's what we are talking about here. if that was a fair trial they won't send it up a, he will do a live sentence for a jury found to be guilty but if there's any evidence that it wasn't a fair trial he should be pardoned and if it's so bad that the governor needs to pardon him, then that da needs to be looked a. per are you i don't get a fair trial in liberal stays. cheryl: back to george soros, i will say that there has been some pushback, recalls in los angeles, there was been recalls in san francisco. so i do think that some of the communities and cities are waking up to the facts that the george soros backed candidates emboldened criminals and that is clear in every city that one soros candidate or another has gotten into office. >> the problem while you recall as you did in san francisco or in any other city, you don't recall the policies immediately.

>> yeah. >> in the realtime, when you think about the article 3 courts in the country. people think about the supreme court or maybe state supreme courts, these courts cover hundreds of thousands of cases whether it's felonies, misdemeanors, they affect us on a daily basis so it is smart strategy for the hard left and soros to undermine the system. their policies stay in place and in the cities the chances of getting a fair system or a balance judge where lady justice is blind becomes a problem so they go to the prosecutorial level and go to the judges who hear the cases. so what you see is a build-up and this is a deliberate strategy. these people are -- these people are inhuman frankly against americans. cheryl: i will say as somebody who lives in the city and hassle george soros backed da alvin bragg, you get what you vote

for. this is it. all right, coming up on the big sunday show, first they claimed racism, now they expel tennessee democrats are launching a new attack on republican who is voted them out. >> this is one to have greatest attackments in voter disenfranchisement? >> will it work and will they get their seat back? ♪ ♪ ♪ an

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>> david is doing this. welcome back to the big sunday show. first tennessee democrats were expelled for participating in a gun protest national capitol, they claimed racism at first but now new railing cry, listen. >> this is one of the greatest tactics of voter disenfranchisement and voter oppression that i have ever witnessed, it's historical in nature. >> predominantly black and brown districts who no longer have representation. >> and one of those democrats

just justin jones may get his st tomorrow. you know, david, is this voter disenfranchisement as they say? david: boy, do we have to go there again? enough already. your voters are not silenced even if they don't reappoint them they get to vote in a special election. voters get to send another left-wing democrat back. these guys are flat out liars. they are not interested in representing their district. i watch the fake mlk speech. i said it before and will say it again, the republicans should have thrown all 3 of them out, gloria johnson included because they all violated the rules. this was not a quiet moment in the well of the floor, they broke rules that had been in place for a very long time and enough already with this racism. if everything is racism, nothing is racism. they didn't throw you out because you were black, they threw you out because they have the votes and you violated the

rules and, again, to the people in tennessee, these are the choices you're making. representative who is are willing to lie while not addressing your circumstance, your needs in these neighborhoods. i looked into the 3 districts, poverty, crime, issues that have more to do with poverty and crime than they do with the color of skin. >> but those issues don't get the attention they are getting now which is, you know, the point. joey, i want to get to the wall street journal op ed by editorial board. democrats are making secular saints out of two lawmakers expelled by the house, national democrats and media are rushing to associate themselves with the mess perhaps they think they can spin it. we can look at this and say,

well, democrats are fine rioting after george floyd in the name of democracy but not this, however, that was a closing argument for democrats heading in to the midterm election and seemed to work. >> yeah, i guess i stray from the -- from the crowd here and those that think like me. i think that was an unforced error on tennessee gop part. there's a difference between tactical and strategic. they made the tactical decision which was the immediate, the path forward to expel the folks for what they did. these protestors were impeding democracy as it is it exists but it was not strategic in any way because it was unwise at this point. you look back and now the entire conversation is the gop and tennessee defending themselves saying, yeah, we expelled two young black men but we are not racists and even if that's absolutely true which everything leads me to believe that race

had very little if nothing to do with it, the optics are there and now that's the whole conversation in -- what are they getting done in the state legislature, where was the wisdom and the leadership to handle this in a way that just showed the radicals to be nothing more than radicals but didn't make them into martyr. >> i would just throw every democrat out. >> that is also the argument. >> i think it's republicans to meet power with power. i'm more into the muscular conservatism with people like governor desantis but cheryl, we saw scenes there. why shouldn't people be finished for engaging in that sort of behavior? cheryl: well, and they were, and they were tossed out and maybe one of them may be back in his job tomorrow according to tennessee politics. secular saints is what the editorial board called these two. we have said the two names, justin jones and justin pearson.

you know the names we are not saying anymore, mike hill, katherine coons, cynthia, evelyn, what about the victims, what about the shooting? they are making it about themselves. what about the 3 children that were shot in what about the 3 adults that were shot and killed? >> that's what is twisted about the losers, they are making martyrs out of themselves. >> you have to see that coming and play chess on the play of checkers and the point to be made here is not simply that they became the martyrs and we are not talking about what happened but also why give them that, why give johnson the opportunity to go on tv and say, well, they didn't vote me out because i'm a 60-year-old white woman. so you can't just always be in

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$1 trillion of the streets of america on the issue of the climate crisis. >> ford motor company and general motors and other companies have spent hundreds of billions of dollars retooling their plants, why because they are going electric. that's president biden's goal. >> when you have electric vehicle you will save on gas but you have to be able to afford it in the first place. david: the new limits on tail-pipe emissions will be for pickup trucks, suv's, vans and mini vans and expect today cover year 2027 to 32 and include what the wall street journal reports as the, quote, country's most strictent curves on car pollution today. i want to point out two lies there and t improbabilities. >> they have not done it for electrics. i have been everywhere from

assembly plants to chicago assembly to all of these plants and they were not retooling them for electric cars. ford has lost $2.1 billion in 2022 project today lose $3 billion this year as they expand their electric vehicle comments. so, cheryl, from a business sense and you and i have done this for many years together, they are making changes, absorbing losses, getting subsidizing just like elon musk for tesla. >> that's one to have reasons why the companies have done more development of electric vehicles. tesla, though, elon musk invented the model. teslas are great cars. most people that drive them love them, the problem is the cheapest one is $30,000, that's discount. 40, 50 or $60,000, god forbid that one gets into an accident, you have a big problem.

okay, lithium ion battery, who is the biggest producer, china. we can make electric vehicles a lot cheaper but the biden administration won't do that because they don't want to go and mine in nevada and california because that would hurt the environment. the prices are never going to come down. this is about hurting the consumer and the climate change agenda that has dominated in the last two years. david: the second lie besides john kerry, pete buttigieg, we are going make them cheaper. joey, they push this religion, it is religion for the climate alarmists. we haven't frozen like they were supposed in the 70's.

cheryl: we are still here. david: what are they pushing on us when technology is solving a lot of our issues. my car puts out basically vapor and it's petrol. >> listen, there's industry of billionaires around the idea of green energy based on subsidies. i don't fully understand it. i had two mentors. basically you have land owners trying to convince solar fields built on their property and they can buy points and make government money back. the government is spending so much money on green energy in so many different places, regulatory reform bill, hr1 that came out, probably won't get passed in its existence. republicans worked hard on it. you have offshore wind as next big thing. offshore wind only really works in the gulf. they are attacking this in all

fronts. we can't keep up with all the places they are attacking it. it's going to be part of the culture and when they bring it into vehicles they are restricting our movement severely and i don't know if that's by accident. cheryl: we need 35,000 charging -- >> the super charger network. >> china tracks their vehicles through electric vehicles. >> lisa, to keep going with the business sense on this, what did ronald reagan say, if you want to make something more expensive, subsidize it. >> i will never buy an electric vehicle out of spite. i don't like being coerced into doing anything so if you're trying to force me into doing something, i will sure as heck do the opposite. like i will not buy an electric vehicle. stick it to you the biden administration on this but david to your point, you talk about all of the dire prediction that is have not come true.

how many times do you say the world is going to end and it doesn't and we keep going along with it? i don't care about climate change if i'm being perfectly honest. the same people pushing that garbage are the ones that said about covid. the science was actually never there and remember they did this what they are trying to do with electric vehicles with the gas stoves. >> yes. >> with the energy department releasing rules essentially, defacto band at gradual level. that's what they are ultimately going to do. cheryl: plastic utensils. >> do not make my mini bottles. speaking of tradition and i'm not buying electric vehicle either just for the record. a new easter egg hunt tradition that's no yolk, dad joke there, the big sunday show debates the viral trend plus we are putting

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>> welcome back to the big sunday, singing in my head. today families across america are gathering together to celebrate easter sunday. many are their own special tradition like decorating easter eggs but this year's fun activity will cost you pretty penny. egg prices are up about 55% from 2020 -- 2022. some people are looking for alternatives for easter egg hunts. what about easter potatoes, new trend on social media but is that really a good option? you know, joey, you have the annual easter egg roll, is it about time for potatoes to get their rule? >> what are we talking about? this is food y'all. you can't paint an egg because you boil it and boil the paint

away. i've never heard of such stuff. i hated about the egg prices. i can go on a tangent about egg and chicken industry, george in the middle of it is being infiltrated, slave labor is working out the honest people trying to work in the industry. there's a lot going on behind egg price that is we don't talk about but if you're telling me you want to paint a potato for easter that's blast for me. >> families around their dinner table painting potatoes. [laughter] >> for easter, do you -- if you peel them before you boil them, does that get rid of the paint? they are the ones that decided to put this idea. >> all the irish said we did that once, don't try it.

[laughter] >> i have to get you on this one. we are going to put up a map. this is a map of the top-selling easter candies around the united states. most states are actually the reeses peanut butter cups and parts of midwest and south are hershey's milk chocolate and this map is where we are from or where we live. cheryl from texas, also the reeses peanut butter. for david and i in florida milk chocolate. >> boring. >> i hate hershey's milk chocolate bars, they are boring. i much prefer the easter egg and i really like the peanut butter to chocolate ratio on the holiday once. you get more peanut butter, what say you? >> i'm going to go off the map here.

>> no. david: i'm with you, they are nice one or two -- >> all the work into the graphic and you're not going to acknowledge it? david: every year -- my wife was texting, every year you go through this, and then i eat them and tomorrow i won't have to get coffee before "fox & friends". >> i was so messed up on what noises each animal makes because of their commercial. i just didn't know. i had no idea bunny -- cheryl: this is from the retail, 51% say that it's obviously -- again, like only 13% want the cadberry cream egg. >> it's a real egg, shaped egg. cheryl: i lived in new york too long. i have to move back to dallas

because obviously i've strayed from what my state believes which is that it's the, you know, reeres peanut butter egg. >> now my whole mind is do i need to move? >> where the parked trailers are, not the trailer park, where the parked trailers, you don't get candy from the store, you get boiled eggs. this is the first weekend watermelons are ready to roll. you have boiled eggs and you can't tell me that reeses peanut butter cup tastes better. >> during the trump administration -- >> shell it out. >> i decided to take -- >> you're amazing. his wife is so cool. >> one more viewer. there we go. no dvr in our house. >> married well, my friend.

>> they had egg pops and i sat there eating egg pops, i couldn't eat eggs for a month. man, could i eat a lot of eggs. basically boiled egg and give it to you in a stick. try them, believe me, you'll love them. >> what you have to do -- i'm cut the watermelon up and put salt on it, salt on the watermelon. >> we have gone off the rail which is probably my fault. [laughter] >> now we are hungry. >> all right, straight ahead, gen zer saying got milk less and less and the biden administration quietly taking away milk from some families in need. that's next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [male instructor] breathe-in, breathe-out

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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> welcome back to the big sunday show. got milk? that is the question millions of low-income americans can be asking themselves as the biden administration considers slashing milk rations for what

we call wic, women, infants receiving through benefit programs. dairy industry is working to make milk cool again like got milk ads of the 90's by taking out a massive ad here in town square, a block away. gen z bought 20% mill than the national average. they may be buying almond. cheryl: do not knock the oat milk. we have no choice but to drink the oat. >> there's a different between medical condition and choosing the lesser of the -- lisa, i want to ask you, women, infants and children, wic, program incredibly vital in rural and poor communities around the country. if you are taking them off of milk, is this a political thing? is this because the war on cows, why are you doing this? >> i don't know. that would be a question for the biden administration. he's made all our lives

difficult throughout presidency. why not add this to the list? i do have a plan on how to make milk cool? hire d kim kardashian, she's expensive, you can do the milk stash, there's lots of way you can do it and have milk revival. cheryl: he was on with "fox & friends first" this past weekend and he said that there's no clear explanation coming from the biden administration as to why this is happening. they are asking the question, they are upset about it obviously, doesn't make sense to them. they really don't have any idea. they would know. >> is milk so good for us? i feel like with all of the studies -- >> yes, yes. >> milk is great and then like a year later, milk is going to kill you and two years milk is great again.

>> milk is the substance of life. how you keep children alive. remember when formula was a big shortage, milk acone of those answers that we have in this country. david, i've got a graphic just to show you how unpopular milk is today. in 1945 coming out of the world war, america's greatest generations, 45-gallons of milk per person. david, we won a war. >> yeah. >> around 1945 and we lost a couple as of late, is milk the reason why? >> maybe we should drink more milk. i generally like my cows. you know what i like along with it, a cold glass of whole milk, not half milk, not skim milk. first of all, unless you can milk an oat, there's no such thing as oat milk. [laughter]

cheryl: just dashing my dream. >> i understand the medical side of it and lactose intolerant and i feel for that. the fact is that we have a lot of dilution in the market right now. i would follow the lobbyists for any industry. >> you know what i have on my mind right now? >> what's that? >> chocolate chip cookies. >> oatmeal chocolate chip cookies. >> cheryl, on the business side of this, the only thing i can think of there's concerted from the biden administration to attack big agriculture, big farm mostly the cows. cheryl: the gases. i think that that's a very, very fair point. we can guess because we don't have a clear explanation. we can goes that that's a

possibility here because they believe that agriculture whether it's farming, whether it's slaughterhouses, all of this is ruining the environment and hurting the environment and so if it's hurting the environment in their opinion, get rid of it. this is another way, maybe, to do that, to help the environment but they are hurting the low-income families. by the way, one -- not to get on a soap box, some of the families in the countries, family of 4, they go to mcdonalds to eat because that's all they can afford. with all of this inflation -- >> wic is a program that most conservatives support. this is taking care of new mothers, infant babies, mothers that are trying to breast feed. that's what the program is there for to make sure that the most vulnerable of our society has necessities to live and milk is a stable of that. >> what they are going to do is hurt these people. you want people to grow better health, better capabilities and develop. if you take away nutrition, think about what we need in our bodies, they are going pay the

price. the biden administration and the left don't care about poor people. they care about their agendas, period, end of story. >> we are going to move on. ly have my glass of milk during the break. stick around, the big four is next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [♪] if you have diabetes, it's important to have confidence in the nutritional drink you choose. try boost glucose control®. it's clinically shown to help manage blood sugar levels and contains high quality protein to help manage hunger and support muscle health. try boost® today.

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cheryl: welcome back to the big sunday show, it is time now for the big four, our picks for biggest stories everyone will be talking about this week i am going to go first, billionaire entrepreneur elon musk says his starship rocket is ready to go to mars. he tweeted, at about 2:00 o'clock this morning, starship is ready for launch awaiting regulatory approval. now i know this sounds a little out there, lisa, i understand that but but elon musk, he's a genius, the cyber truck is going real well for the production that's happening in texas. i think he makes it happen. >> i like to go to space, why not. this place is kind of crazy. [laughter] maybe people are -- >> the idea that you don't get to come back. that's where you lose me. >> maybe there's an equation here when i get to a certain age, you know, go, get the last experience and send back a

video. >> hardened criminals and people we neat to get rid of. >> richard branson kind of lost and elon musk kind of won. >> 13 now in custody in connection to murder of 3 teenagers in florida. it's not who they are as much as how they got there. we have a 12-year-old, we have a group of teenagers engaging in robberies and burglaries, that's how the gun was stolen. what's missing here is long before they got to their criminal element no matter what age, there was a loss in the family, there was a loss in the community, there was no adult influence of any note. we don't know the specifics as you said yesterday joey but we know it was missing. frankly, we need to change things and the elephant in the room, this is happening in too many black communities and, look, black parents, black families, black communities need to start taking care of this.

these kids don't need to become criminals. cheryl: that's a heartbreaking case when you read the details of what was happening with the kids. >> it's predictable when crime gets worse when you are young, when your frontal lobe is not developed, your reason, your ability to do that, we really are watching kids lose their lives or somebody else losing their life or their property but worst case -- >> on that topic, my pick for the big four talking about kids, 86 to 52 vote, texas house approved amendment banning use of, education save -- i'm still trying to understand it. allows students to create savings account but not able to use state funds in that. they are not able to take their kids and use the money that would be given to the public school to put their kid in a better option and here is the deal a bunch of republicans voted for this. this tells you the complexity of

the issue, don't go out and campaign in schools like they did in virginia and all over the country if you're not going to back up the solution. come up with one because parents deserve a choice. >> if you ever thought to yourself aoc is crazy, you're right, alexandria ocasio-cortez is attacking republicans once again days after she joined one of our fellow democrats in calling to ignore a court order. aoc is now claiming there's a crime wave within the gop. listen. >> for all of their talk of a crime wave and republicans talking about crime waves across the country, the crime wave is within the republican party. >> i mean, i told you she was crazy. cheryl: she cares more about how she looks and being on talk shows than he does about her own constituents. that's where aoc's priorities are. >> never mind people getting gunned down. >> she doesn't care about that much either unfortunately. this has been no fun at all for the last, you know, hour, guys.

>> happy easter, everybody. happy easter to all of you. hope you are enjoying your day. we are going to see you next weekend and coming up next it's the fox report with jon scott and all of that starting in just a few seconds. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ simi knight fox news alert, third juvenile suspect is now in custody in the murders of three florentines. young man along with two others shooting and killing 16-year-old and six plus an unidentified 17-year-old boy. to be nine good evening on jon scott this is the fox report. more on the new developments in central florida murder case coming up. but first were getti