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prosecutor in manhattanno brought the charges against donald trump. n getting into the weeds. about realllk campaign violations. and we talk about two tiers of justice, there is no justice. when i it comes to donald trump. improving it to you.scan 1996 fundraising scandal bring stiff penalties, los angeles times, it hasos pottie-- record setting fines agaifin participants in99 1996 democratic party fundraising scandal involving contributions from china, korea, and other foreign sources. the fec documents describeun democraticdr fundraisers whori ceset specific prices for foreign nationals to make illegal campaign

contributions in return forme meetings witeth then president clinton, vice president al gore.mo ancrd organizers would have to contribute 100 thousand ind in return for gore's appearance at a buddhist temple in los angeles. thoss.e penalized include democrat national committee, the buddhist temple, theeo clinton/gorepl campaign. and acting as conduits agreed to pay.l a total in fines higher but that some corporations had foifolded andss otherset were dummy operations with no assets. clinton wasn 't placed under crime investigation this. janet reno the attorne general, she tossed a number of investigation to kept starr at this time. g she held this one back.ac this wask. a beauty. the communist chinese

military laundered millions of dollar to clinton campaign for president and the dnc. can you imagine? but there is no sodisclosure agreement, don't worry. obama campaign fined big fording hiding donors, keeping illegal donations from u.s. news. about 10. years ago. fec audit of own for ame america's 2008 records foundtt committee failedee to discloseil millionsli of dollars inn contributions, and dragged its feet in refunding billion mores in excess contribution. one of largest fines result of failure to disclose thousands of contributions to obama for america. during the then senator'san 2008ds presidential run, documents show, in addition to failing to report big donors, in timely manner,a obamtia campaign datedcorr

filings, dealing with 85 million in funds theyds claim. wow. was obam a under criminala un investigation by a local prosecutor, let aloi alone the feds? no, must not have n known anything about this. and town hall the other day. trump faces criminal prosecutions, democrat target former president trump for allegedly paying hush money. obama's illegal foreign influence operation is flying under the radar. this week actor dicaprio testified that malaysian financier lo revealed his plans to donate 30 million to help obama 2012 reelection campaign, did

he? is there a a criminalistgation criminal make looking into this? -- investigation looking into this? and the fujis help funnel a large amount of money to obama campaign.ow wow. any local prosecutors bring a case on this, not that i know of. i don't think so.? politico, federal campaignch watch dog finds dny clinton campaign overdosier spend s spending disclosure, agreed t oo fine over 100oc thousandra against democrat national committee and hillary clinton 2016n campaign oveovr investigation to alleged misreports ofto spending related to nowe infamous di steels did yore, w dossier. what happened?

as legal expenses. when some of the money was earmarked for paying fusion gps to conduct opposition research to donald trump.ch they o were not supposed to put this as a legal expense. anyone charge hillary clinton or dnc criminally for thaty . >> no.. you get what i'm saying? more, the "new york post." chinese elite paid 31 million to hunter and the bidens. fo.r those wondering why joe biden, schweizer writes, is soft on china consider. biden family done 5 deals in china totaling 31 million arranged by individuals with direct ties to chinese intelligent. and reaching the top of chinese ex spy agency.

joe biden benefited from hisne family foreignfi deals. we have all of this foreign money flooding into clinton campaign.ca the obammpa campaign.a and we have joe biden who bought and paid for by communist chinese. not a single criminal investigation at the local, state or tom federalf level. thdodonald trump came into office ands multimillionaire.bi biden spent his whole life in government, gore most of his life in government, obama most of his life trying to over 3 throw the nation, they're all now worth tens of millions,y, obama to b te worth over 100 million and gore over 100 million. thf mille bidens during the two year break between vicen president and president, made many millions of

dollars, hes had s corporations has never revealed their taxes, whyir arthe taxes not released. the democrats wanted donald trump a taxes to make sure that top officials are actually being handled properly by thde irs, what a about ex-top officials? trump's taxes were released like two weeks before the democrat left office there was no legislative purpose, now there is none.rp whosy don't they ask for theth obama tax returns or goreax ftax returns and biden i ss corporation returns, that is important. now criminality.ity. to show you how donald trumpmp as president has been aa choir boy?boy. a w-- david burnhamw wrote a great book a couple decades ago. high wrotes about ra

roosevelt. confidence documents prove they did not his trait to mobilize the irs to destroy the individuals who they decided were enemies, inquiry from eleanor. of a conservative newspaper publisher, one of the leading critics, roosevelt unleashed irs against andrew melon who was address secretary during coolidge administration and others. attack on andrew melon, served add republican secretary treasury from 1921-32. he ordered first a first director of criminal investigation to go after him, they went after him for years.

criminally, civilly, he wasnn innocent. but that pooocent.r guy, melon s harassed. fos orr years, radios roosevelt was a driven man and understood that huey long represented a threat, he unleashed irs against long and all of his surrogates, long was assassinated, that stopped irs from taking out long, sounds like stalin. sounds like it, maybe it is, he helped a loyal congressman from texas. lyndon johnson, a target of the irs for failing to properly report income from his campaigns, for 18 months, fdr stopped that investigation. killed that investigation. protected johnson who would go on to be senator then president. kennedy administration was also well-known for misusing

and targeting martin luther king as a spy. nudged by kennedy they went after groups on the right, using irs.s. the abuses reached into fbi, fbi tracked every move of r king. mthe and grand tracking his flights, and w watching his associates, and confid-- in 63 mo hoover field a request with kennedy. under lyndon johnson he usednd fbi, irs and cia to go after civil rights groups he didn't trust. to spy on the democrat convention in atlantict city to sekee what kennedys were saying about him.

he bug the hubert humphrey'shi phone to see what his vice president was saying on theca campaign trail aboutmp the vietnam war. this is incredible what past presidents did and got awayit work under obama there was no cause or connection but irs was used to go after tea party organizations that were hurtful to him in 2 2020 election.it anh.d the fbi was used duringg the obama administration and biden administration. obamona/biden to spy, i would argue on the trump campaign.p trump is a choir boy. he never did this stuff. women were brought in and out of john kennedy's office. east german spy they had to out, a mob boss'

girlfriend. ' girla 16-year-old intern. itd is disgusting, and lbj was worse. the abuse of women. in the oval office.ff so putic it in context.la when idis going on in manhattan and atlanta. trump called and said can you find votes. that is legal. or trump and the documents. he didn't sell them or give them away, they were in mar-a-lago, under ththe protection of secret service. and this attempt to tie him to violent on january 6. o and preventing the transfer you know of one government to the next. i'll be right back. age is just a number, and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flavor. learn more at boost.com/tv

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mark: welcome back in, we have two great guests, newt gingrich and bradley smith. former chairman of federal election commission capital university law professor, instate for free speech founder brad. now more than ever, your expertise is needed. we discussed this a new years ago, whether a nondisclosure agreement is

an illegal campaignec contributionau because the candidate isn put in a positive light through a nondiscdisclosureen agreement,t, is that a violation of federalt election law. >> it is not. we have been through this before. worth whil.e to start. how did we get here. d.a. in manhattan bragg, has a falsification, record claim against former president trump. this claim is a misdemeanor. hea be has clear statute of limitation problems with it. and his progress of b ive is not interested in that charge, they want trump in handcuffs in jail. bragg raises it to a felony by trying to claim thatcl falsification was done to

cover another crime, the indictment is vague it appears to bfae belief that president or former president did not properly disclose the certain campaign contribution that money paid to stormyra daniels.gg bragg's legal other works off idea law says anything done for purpose of influence election for federal office is a campaignco contribution has to bent reported. looksly a plussable theory. -- p fl plausible but the law is not that simple. i think that bragg's interpretation of the law is wrong. it is not what do the person acting think they were doing it is an object of test, supreme court said that campaign finance laws have

to be nearly interpreted tone avoid anary vagueness and to be based on objective criteria. for example if i ran out, if if i were a wealthy individual, i ran out and r ads saying we should be investigating and indicting hunter biden,se i thought that would havein purpose ofg defeating joe biden, it still would not be a campaign expenditure, i'm not talking about reelecting joe biden but i'm talking about hunter biden. similar, if i said i willgi give a bunchve of money to a conservative think tank because i think that will help trump or some other republican nominee maybe winee the election. it still is not a campaign contribution, but a contribution to i think thank that is engaged in talking about issues withwe policy. we see it in wide variety of other areas, a prohibition in law against converting

funds to personal use. that means that what you spend your campaign funds ohas to be thanks that are done because you aree ca campaigning for office. if i am a candidate for office, i decide i need a better looking suit, i spend 3 thousand on a suit, i would never do that on my own, but i'm running for office. oit does not matter my purpose is p to inthrough influence the eligible,ca itmp is not a campaign expenditure because you will buy clothing. >> if i win for office ands fr hire a divorce attorney to seal uproareds from a messy ddivorce. it is yo u know for campaign law is not a campaign ex

exex -- expenditure, if i am a businessman, let'sd suppose i own a couple restaurants, i run for congress but i have claims o of racial discrimination in my businesses, i don't want that interfering with my campaign, i go to o myla corporate lawyerwy, and i say the claims are nonsense but i want them settled. my lawyer said, no, there is no way they can win. i said, i just don't want if't out there and or presske playing it up, just settle them, i can't use campaignet funds to settle that. those are personal function s that is what went on here men paid to stormy d daniels for her agreement to not repeat oralgat --pe

her allegations she had an affair with president trump. loo fec looked at the case, didd notot pursue it because thatat is not a violation of the law. it is not they are campaign expenditures but it is moreu know but you can't usecagn campaign funds to pay forse those things, it is illegal to use the campaign funds for that. i think that is underlying leaving aside the technicalities the sense of injustice people have, if bragg were not prosecuting trump for not using campaign funds and not report it he would be you know -- if trump did use campaign fundsca hemp would be chasing trumpco fonvr illegally convertingo pe campaign funds to personal c use, i havlee a sense he wouldds get donald trump with that i charge eithes r way, that is not the rule of law. >> very well put. i have a question.

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. >> welcome to kn fox newnews live, protests expected in nashville tomorrow, following expulsion of two democratic lawmakers, justin jones and justin pearson say it was a power grab by the republican controlled state house and point out their white colleague who also participated in the protest was not voted out, republicans insist that two weri -- expelled for breaking house rules, they demand to be reappoints and reelected. >> people across ireland prepare to give president biden a warm welcome. president will first visit northern ireland on tuesday.

tomorrow to mark 25 anniversary of the good friday agreement. it was brokered by u.s. mr. biden travels to other regions of the island to talk trade. i'm claudia cowen back to "life, liberty and levin." mark: we're here." with former fec committee chairman, bradley smith. my question, is under the bragg theory, that anything you do to help yourself can be considered positive on behalf of a campaign and the rest is ignored. what 'money that bragg isg expending going after trump. couldn 't the argument be made if i'm following bragg alongic, following h logic

that every penny spent going after donald trump it will put a positive stin on biden presidential can pain that say reportable contribution and illegal. it goes over the limits.ion. >> well, you know, bragg is i acting as the d.a. within hid.s authority, he is abusing his authority. but i am not sure it is illegal fo r him to be doingfo what he is doing. the point you make is right,s that proves idea that not everything' that might haveev purposere of influluen influence a federal campaignun countsts as a official contribution under the federal law. if you apply that to hillaryf clinton you could sayla everything shery did in her life was to influence her campaign for president. that is jot not the way that law works you have

to trim it back and look atth ite objectively. it is that would this be done if you were not running for wa office. you may not buy a particular out felt or get their teethit whitened to thene same degree t if thehey are not running for. office, they may do them tomp help, but theyai are not campaign things.ut prosecutors do prosecutedon' cases, but you don't for example buy ads saying vote for me for congress, if you are not running foroe congress. a persons does nonot rent campaign headquarters, if they are not running for office. that is ththate objective standard. no t subjectively why is bragg spending this money or why did donald trump spend a smaller sum of money, thesm questional is, that objectsive one, is this created by act of running for president.

mark: what you were chairman of federal election committee what years y were you chairman. >> i was commissioner from 2000-2005, i s served as chairman in 2004.by mark: how many cases were brought by districttou attorneynts anywhere onfe federadel campaign violations? t would be i approximately zero. you know you hav e two problems. one is that the act includes a broad preand you have a problem with act of 1789, makes clear afens to federal law -- offenses to federalra law there is exclusive jurisdiction for federal courts. what bragg is saying i'm not prosecuting the federal offense but th e state offense that makes it a felony if he committed a

federal crime to cover-up a state the business reporting records. i think that is too cute. you could imagine for example could a good republican state such as alabama pass a law saying it is a violation of the penalto code to commit a impeachable oh, fence. i think that bragg answer ony ha too cute by half. we'le,l see, maybe he is make it stick. it i as strikes mias something at some point a federales appellate court will put a stop to it.rl >>yi underlying crime, we talked about jurisdiction and su statute, was donald trump charged with a federal offense. these activities. federal election said nothing. mark: i'm pe perplexed.

if under lying law has to show a crime, was i asleep when donald trump was changeed and convicted of an underlying crime, you can't just say there is an underlying crime, why because bragg says it is? to cover-up an underlying crime, he was not charged or convicted of one. does that raise a constitutional problem? i think it does. bradley smith, thank you so much for clearing it up for us. i hope the district attorney in manhattan is watching, i'm betting he is not, god bless you, i appreciate you. >> thank you, markle way, always good to see you. >> we'll be right back. weeds... they have you surrounded. take your lawn back with scotts turf builder triple action! gets three jobs done at once - kills weeds. prevents crabgrass. and keeps it growing strong. get a bag of scotts triple action today, it's guaranteed. feed your lawn. feed it.

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>> welcome back, newt gingrich nobody better than to ask. i feel like we've crossed

rubicon now. the use of the law to take out political opponents. phony cases. statutes that are twisted like pretzels. four ground juries at once against the individuals leading the republican nomination process and a former president. you have a great historic perspective on these. how do you see this? >> i do think it is sort of parallel to crossing the rubicon, the moment when roman law was shattered. i would say that what happened is that donald trump came out of nowhere and first person to have courage and will power to take on the corrupt extremist establishment. and they are in the fight of their life. trump is to the domestic corrupt establishment what ronald reagan was to soviet empire. if he survives, he goes back

to the white house as grover cleave a cleveland did. the 2025 trump administration will be mortal enemy of all corrupt, dishonest bureaucracies, news media on left, academic universities, teachers union, these people understand this is life and date fo -- death for them, breaking the law, which is what they are doing is part of process of desperately trying to st stop someone as you saw biden is down 33% thinking should be ri re-elect. people can't say trump will win a reelection, i wonder what planet they are on. biden is not get anything better. his role in world can weakness, criminals are allowed on street, people of killed, raped, and robbed. folks -- even the st the

city of san francisco is asking federal government to intervene because crime is out out of control. i think that what you are faced with is a level of dishonesty and corruption. unlike anything we have seen in american history. there is no parallel to what is happening right now, and i think what will do is force the american people to choose between donald trump and a future with a corrupt extremist movement that will tell us how we get to live our lives, based on what they want us to do. mark: newt gingrich, i see people like chris christie, or asa hutchinson or others, pile on with the media and democrats, i think to myself, these guys are missing what is taking place in this country. that is this is not your typical election, not your typical period in history, this is a battle over the

republic. either we win or they win. and if they win, the republic on over. >> you are right. i think that the -- i see great signs of legislators local governments, country itself is moving. the country is move away from the extremist democrats and from the extremist policies. i think that it was encouraging to me that people like mitt romney and jeb bush came out and said, what is going on in new york is wrong. that was more of a rallying again lawlessness than i would have expected. i think people like chris christie and asa hutchinson are wrong, they're historically out of step with reality, i do don't understand what is go on. the choice is simple. you have entire corrupt system prepared to destroy one person and rewrite the law in way that -- show me

the man i'll find you the crime. the truth s the indictment in new york is absurd. i said over, it has nothing to do with indictment and everything to do with donald trump. if trump went home to mar-a-lago relaxed given up his future, retired, none of this would be happening, but he is a live direct threat to the death of corrupt clu corruption. >> do you think that -- established republicans comprehend what is a taking place, democrats want to nationalize the election system. super impose it on the nation so. theyment to pack the court, and pack the senate, and destroy th the electoral college. that party's plan for keeps, that is not a party that

believes in the republican small art system but they woctthey want one party rule. they want one party control. do you think republicans, in the senate comprehend what is taking place. >> they divide up. a lot of them do. there is a gradual movement in the right direction. on other hand. this is so unusual, this is comparable to the civil war before vicksburg and gettysburg. comparable to wor washington crossing delaware on christmas night. these things don't happen to often, district attorney bragg offered up an indictment so dishonest and false, filled with such phony bologna, all of a sudden you could not hide it, this is an effort to

destroy donald trump, through, that to destroy fried freedom in america. if they can do this to trump, you see this all of the time, issuing rulings for how scientists should talk, and for how schools behave, they think 7 years should decide their own gender, they are for sex change activities at 10 and 12 years old, therefore a black racism replacing white racism. so they have you know, by the way, crushes asian americans and latinos, this is coming down the road. they are prepared to buy elections, they bought a supreme court seat in wisconsin, democrat had 6 times as much money because the left rallied to buy a supreme court seat. they bought the mayor's race in chicago, they are allstate forward -- straight forward, people have to decide, which america do you want, if you want an america not owned by the left you

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mark: welcome back america. newt gingrich, terrible wrestling match we're involved in. how does this turn out, your guess? >> i think that american people win. the elites lose that has been history of all of american behavior. i think that is why jefferson beat adams and lincoln won the civil war. take wisconsin. in wisconsin the left set out to buy a supreme court seat, that makes it political rather than judicial. they out spend the republican 6 to 1, they won the seat, the media said it was about abortion. no it was about a corrupt system that outspent the right by 6 to 1. however. very same day with very same voters 79 percent voted for welfare reform. they also voted overwhe

overwhelmingly to incres increase penalties to crime. they are repudiating extremism of the left. you have way up here, the "new york times" and post and aches a aches an - -- abcand corporate boards they are going to left. the ocean of americans are repudiating the extremism. you had a legislator switch in louisiana. you see this continual drift against the extremists, that is why i'm in the lincoln tradition. i believe with popular sentiment anything is possible, without popular sentiment nothing is possible, a direct yet quoat

frquote from lincoln. mark: i'm in ai ai air spottal tradition. central. government to im pose their will on american people. you see this in other societies. you see a president who rules by executive order. hard to reverse that. in frederick county, maryland, i think you are right. >> yeah. mark: i also think they have positioned themselves the ruling class to rule. >> that is -- they are doing what they should do. they of trying to up pose impose on american people a radical set of values, remember if trump wins, i suspect he will, he cun d can undcan -- he is undo

all of bind's biden's executive order the first days. they will insist on passing things that begin to role back the extremism, i look out there, michigan is a great case. two most likely candidates for governor were both knocked off ballot. were not allowed to run. very much like what they are trying to do with trump. i think that michigan would not have been this democratic had they not rigged the election by knocking the two candidates off th ballot, i see a country, where the cun v country is moving away from extremists. even in new york we have a republican majority in u.s.

house. maybe i'm a optimist, i think that american people in the end will beat the extremists. mark: i hope you are right. we're only beat the them if we fight like hell, right. >> right. mark: that is why parents groups are important. the pro life groups are very important. all of these people who are rising up, like the tea party rose up. very important. because i for we lose the next election, they will be able t to enshrine their agenda in way toes to ma -- ways to make it difficult. >> you are right. this will be an important aisle, all of us againic

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i'm so glad i te y. ♪ don't hesitate. ask your doctor about otezla today. welcome back. i want to wish all my friends a happy easter, happy passover. anyone in the church or synagogue you attend. all of us red-blooded americans. you know, the great history of america is one party respecting the distance of the other party. that is respecting competition. when one party tries to put another party out of business so we have one party rule, trying to determine who their nominee for president will be, uses the law to destroy the law, uses the

constitution to destroy the constitution, sets up myriad ways to steal elections. and, has a back pocket like so many parties do, we ceased to be the party that our great america made. we will not roll over dead, we will fight it. i will see you ♪ good evening. welcome to the special easter sunday edition of the next revolution. happy easter to all of you. in a moment we will get to the massive news of the week. the trump indictment and what it is all really about. i have something to say about that. i know that tammy bruce does too. she will be joining us shortly. in the spirit of easter i want to talk about what is happening to the spirit of america or even the soul of america which biden promised to restore.

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