whistle to binder. no more, doocey, you're done. so, jesse, what did your family end up serving for easter dinner? we had steak because we went out. traditionally i'm more a lamb guy. that's it for tonight. tucker's up next. always remember i'm waters and this is my world. >> tucker: good evening and welcome to tucker carlson tonight. imagine being a historian 100 years ago trying to figure out what happens here. there's a lot of questions that are gonna puzzle you. one of the most baffling will be, how did joe biden get the nomination in 2020? 2020 was the year you will remember when we learned white people are bad and systemic racism is responsible for everything that has gone wrong

in the world. and yet 2020 was also the year the democrats nominated by their free choice an elderly white man from a slave state who once eulogized a klan recruiter. the anti-white party picks the white guy. how does that happen? pretty simple. democrats care about power. power derives from winning. when you lose, you don't have power. bernie sanders couldn't win. b sanders terrified the donor class. from a fund-raising perspective, that turned out to be a wise choice. by the end of that cycles democrats spent $400 million just for mark zuckerberg. that does not even include the tens of billions in free media coverage as slick and dishonest as any paid ad. unlike paid ads, is not

regulated by campaign finance law. so if you add all of that up, the democratic party dropped more in that presidential year than the entire annual gdp of most african countries. all to dislodge donald trump from the white house. nothing like that has ever happened. can they do it again? that's the question. it's a tougher question this round. 2 1/2 years ago many voters could tell themselves that joe biden might unite the country. some mistook his dementia for moderation. but no one can make that mistake now. with the american economy in decline and the rest of the world in obvious chaos, biden's gonna have to come up with a whole new set of lies in order to keep his job. that's not an easy thing. that may explain why, as of mid april 2023, where we are now, joe biden still has not formally announced his reelection campaign. he was asked about it this morning on nbc. here he is sounding less than all in. >> are you saying that you would

be taking part in our upcoming election? >> i'll either roll an egg or end up being the guy pushing them out. >> help a brother out. >> no, no. i plan on running, but we're not prepared to announce it yet. >> tucker: he can barely speak the words. we're not prepared to announce it yet. why aren't they announcing it? you know why? he will be 82 by the next inauguration. no one really other than his wife thinks that's a good idea. it's not. where does that leave democrats? if you are a rational person who took them at their word, you would assume the democratic party would replace joe biden with somebody who embodies their highest values. you imagine a trans black woman with a background in corporate hr or a latino drag queen, or maybe even kamala harris. no. in fact, no chance. that would be principled and,

therefore, they will never do it. nominating someone you say you support? no. when biden leaves or more likely is shoved aside, they're going to nominate another straight white man who loves the big banks. someone even oilier and faker than joe biden. why would they do that? because it worked last night. i'm guessing it will be gavin newsom. we can't say that, but we have noticed gavin newsom was at the white house. just measuring the curtains. then over the weekend we saw this. gavin newsom sitting down with the democratic party's former spokeswoman now in residence at msnbc, jen pasaki. pasaki didn't really conduct an interview -- she's not a journalist. she gave newsom a chance to outline his platform for when he takes complete control. don't dismiss him. you may be in the habit of dismissing gavin newsom. pay close attention as he gives

his pitch on msnbc. >> i just finished 18 events in five days in california. i sacrifice my heart and soul from my state. i tack a back seat to no one. i get it. i also don't get what's going on in this country. i don't get what everybody is not doing what we're doing. all the progress is being rolled back in these states in real time. just the last few years, i don't think people fully understand the right's regression, individual liberties on the gerrymandering that's happening out here. >> tucker: is your brain exploding? if you're a literal person, maybe so. this is the guy who forced every one of his 40 billion residents in his state to get an experimental vaccine whether they wanted to or not lecturing you about individual rights and civil liberties. i don't get why everyone isn't doing what we're doing in

california, he said. maybe because it's not working. because the people who live in your state who can afford to leave have. more people have left california this year than any state in the country. california, the largest net emigration. it was that bad they ran out of u-halls. you have a mixture of bil billionaires and desperately poor people dependent on the state. kind of like latin america. that's the structure in the state of california. middle class people with families aren't moving there. that's how you know. is your state doing the right thing? people who haven't made it but would like to would be moving there, not fleeing from desperate poverty. but from other parts of america. are they moving there? no. where are they going? they're actually going to florida. it's not a political point. it's true. it's measurable.

you would think if you were running california, you would say, what are they doing in florida that we should be doing? no, not gavin newsom. this is his appeal to democratic leaders. like joe biden, he will literally say anything and then take it to 11 and lecture the person doing a better job on he is on how he's a bad person. watch newsom tell the governor of florida how to run a state. >> there is a pretty startling split screen. you had 1,000 kids in nashville out there protesting lack of action on gun reform measures while you had governor desantis signing a bill on permitless carry behind closed doors. what did you make of that? >> scared to death. >> who is he scared of? >> scared of the people. >> people in florida? >> that overwhelmingly oppose that. majority of nra members probably oppose that position. >> tucker: this is what happens

with everything about you, from your physical features to your very soul has been altered by cosmetic surgery. just like joe biden, but younger. you'll say literally anything. words have no connection to reality. there's no expectation you're describing something real. you're merely using words as a tool to gain power. it's dishonest to its core. you just heard gavin newsom said only leaders scared of the people let the people carry firearms. they're so scared of the people, they let them defend themselves. when you are a completely legitimate leader presiding over a system that's not rigged, you start confiscating guns. you live in a state where only the governor's bodyguards can be armed. what you're seeing here is not just packaging over reality, but the triumph of dishonesty over

truth. that's so dishonest that he's not even trying to convince you. he's trying to reshape reality. why wouldn't he? if men can become women, why wouldn't everything gavin newsom be true? just because he said it. what's the effect on the actual state, our largest state, prettiest state, what was for decades the economic engine of the united states, california. what has been the effect of gavin newsom's leadership on that state? this has been well chronicled. the governor of california for four years. before that, he ran san francisco where he's from. so how is san francisco doing? under good leadership san francisco would be thriving. but under gavin newsom leadership, here's what's happening in san francisco. >> victim don carminani a former san francisco fire commissioner. he suffered a fractured skull,

lacerations to his face and head. he showed up to his mother's place after he refused to move. soon picked up and put down near the corner laundromat. he confronted them. that's what provoked the brutal beating. the crime traumatizing those who saw it unfold. >> i moved here because i love the city. it's becoming more and more disturbing to live here. >> tucker: yeah. they just closed today actually a whole foods in downtown san francisco. not a mom and pop place. a whole foods. a well backed, in fact owned by amazon. they own the grocery store. they still had to close it, grocery store that caters to rich people, one of the richest cities in the world. they had to close it. why? the people who worked there were too afraid for their own physical safety to show up for

work. last week bob lee the founder of cash app was murdered, stabbed to death on the street in what they tell us is one of the nicest parts in san francisco. apparently according to surveillance video, the guy who murdered him randomly, murdered him on principle, walked down the street, completely at ease, pulling a rolling back behind him. he has nothing to fear 'cause there's no cops. this is the state in which crime has been legalized and the only crimes are now thought crimes. if you disagree with the people in charge, then you're in seriously in trouble. but if you hurt others or steal, you're fine. you're part of a protected class. that's the definition of tyranny. there are still people in california who understand that. here's one sheriff in riverside county. >> you know, in the last ten years criminals have become increasingly more violent and brazen. what we are seeing in response to these very lax laws on crime,

push to decriminalize everything, push to lessen the penalty for something, or even take away the penalty for crime is basically emboldening criminals to do more. it's horrifying for law enforcement. it's horrifying for the public that has to deal with it. >> tucker: here's our guess. we don't know the guy. but we would bet money that the second that man is vested in his pension, the second he can leave, he'll be in idaho or arizona, or anywhere other than that state. you can't live in a state like that unless you're rich. of course. so if you cared about the state of california, you would do something about this. but gavin newsom has completely ignored the condition of his state, physically, now filthy. instead, he's doing what they all do, doubling down on identity politics. pandering to people on the basis

of their skin color or sexual orientation or whatever. and because ultimately he is a stiff robotic lizard man, he's doing it in the most awkward way. here he is at the new college of florida. he is running for president. trying his best to seem interested as he claps along with an ethnic song and dance. ♪ >> you want to know if he's running for president? he flew to florida to degrade himself on camera. you have to be willing to leave your dignity at the door. for gavin newsom, that's easy. so if your first reaction to that is to recoil, turn off your

television set, then you're the threat to democracy. normal people are the threat to democracy. newsom's campaign ad, this is the first of his presidential campaign ads we pro-t-- predict. >> the problem in our country, authoritarian leaders who are so hell bent on gaining power and keeping it by whatever means necessarily that they are directly attacking our freedoms in state after state. that's why i am launching the campaign for democracy. we're going on the road to take the fight to states where freedom is most under attack. where republican leaders ban books, criminalize doctors, fire teachers, intimidate librarians, kidnap migrants, target trans kids, stoke racism, condone anti-semitism, force victims of rape and incest to carry their attacker's baby. they ignore the will of the people, make it harder to vote

and easier to buy assault weapons. we'll make sure we elect leaders in 2024 who believe in democracy. >> tucker: you got to give him credit. everything in that ad is not only untrue, it is the mirror image of the truth. it is the exact opposite of the truth. it's, therefore, not just misleading, it is evil. this is not a question of we disagree on something. this is a fact of someone flipping around the truth and inverting it. if you're opposed to men in dresses twerbging in front of kids, you're intimidating librarians. if you pause before you say castrate children, you're targeting transkids. of course, if you're not with his program, you don't believe in democracy. this is the man who is governor of a state in which there really is no democracy. all the candidates and election outcomes are chosen by the

unions who are in bed with the democrats. it is a one party state. a man who presides over a one party state is lecturing you about democracy? right. this is a guy who shut down the state of florida and all of its schools for all the poor people where he sent his children to in person private school an went to dinner at the most expensive restaurant in the united states. meanwhile anyone who didn't get his creepy shot, he compared to a criminal. a criminal. a drunk driver. watch. >> with all due respect, you don't have a choice to go out and drink an drive and put everybody else's lives at risk. that's the equivalent of this moment with the deadliness and efficiency of the delta virus. >> tucker: that turned out to be completely untrue. completely provably untrue as a matter of science. the literal among us are driven crazy by watching the videotape like that.

but gavin newsom is not driven crazy. it doesn't bother him. he's never apologized. he's never revised what he said before. he just kept going. this is a man who will say anything. people who will say anything, tend to be willing to do anything. like joe biden, he has consistently run as a moderate and falsely, back in 2008, mayor of san francisco he promised to eliminate homelessness in the city within ten years. that didn't work out. he's never apologized. homelessness has grown by double digits under his stewardship. if you want to understand who gavin newsom really is, if you want to appreciate not just the dishonesty, but the deep malice at the core of him, desire to hurt other people and indifference to human suffering that has been the hallmark of his governship, watch this clip from 2020. >> clean and sober is one of the

mistakes this country has ever made. i know it's a hold your hand idealistic point of view. god bless some of you, if you're like me, i have been known to have a glass of wine and watch the nightly news. we all need to self-medicate periodically. >> tucker: we all need to self-medicate periodically. now we have a country which nearly everyone is self-medicating all the time with the help of doctors. nowhere is it worse than the state of california. if you cared about the people who live in california, you would notice this. nearly 30,000 californians die every single year from drugs and alcohol. to put it in perspective, that is close to ten times as many people who die from gun fire. addiction is the central driver of homelessness. which has not only made the state ugly and dangerous and unliveable, but it's also destroyed the lives of the people living on the streets. what about them? gavin newsom doesn't clear.

clean and sober is one of the biggest mistakes this country has ever made. really? if you care so little about the people who live in your state that you will mock their sobriety, then you're definitely running for president. before that happens we thought we would check in with someone who has lived in the state and has seen it. adam curl is here to respond to a potential gavin newsom run. he's your governor. what do you think of this? >> all right. i could barely watch that without crawling out of my skin or not being clean and sober. okay. couple things. he came on my podcast nine years ago and he told me his number one issue was homeless and homelessness. that was his number one issue. i said to him the homeless population is comprised of drug

addicts and people with mental disabilities and/or both. he then said to me sitting three feet across from me, what about the true face of homelessness, which is a mother of three who has a full time minimum wage job whose husband left her? that was his idea of solving a problem. he declared himself to being number one issue is homelessness, and that's what he thought homeless was in california. no one has ever seen a mother of three with a full time job out on the street. he's a sociopathic buffoon. the scary part is people vote for him. you and i, we don't need to unsolve the riddle of gavin newsom. he's a carpetbagger, idiot, sociopath. he puts brill cream on his teeth. fine.

why do people vote for him? that's the real question that we need to solve. >> tucker: that's the threat to democracy right there. if you have a population, it's a brand new population, huge percentage of californians got there from other countries. if you have a population that votes for a leader that makes things worse, that's the challenge to democracy. and makes things worse phez raably. economically, in crime. that's a huge problem. a scary problem. >> you know what's interesting, the great carol shelby, who made the shelby cobra left texas in the '60s to come to california to build cars. could you imagine leaving texas and coming to california to manufacture something in 2023? also, here's a thought experiment that i think would work. do you think if a number of joe biden's aides said to him, you

can't run for president, we're already in our second term, do you think he would believe that? >> tucker: that's good. i don't run into biden too often, but i'm going to say that. adam carolla, performing in new york in may. good luck there. great to see you tonight. >> thank you. >> tucker: we're going to south florida tomorrow to mar-a-lago to interview donald trump, who is front runner in the race for the republican nomination. this will be the first time he has spoken with the media since his arraignment. that will air tomorrow night 8 p.m. eastern. a gun man murdered several people at a bank in downtown louisville today. the question is who did it and why? usually authorities don't want to tell us, which is usually a

sign there's a story there. we're going to tell you everything we have learned today after the break.

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>> tucker: this morning, as you may have read, a gun man murdered several people at a bank in louisville, kentucky.

we're learning much more about the man who did it tonight. trace gallagher has that story. hey, trace. >> tucker, police say this is a targeted attack and the social media footprint is providing a wealth of information and not just because 25-year-old conner sturgeon, who was fired by the bank was live streaming the attack on instagram, but also because he indicated the attack was coming, posting messages where he said they won't listen to words or protest, let's see if they hear this. there are also reports he left messages for friends and family saying that he was going to shoot at the bank and evenly reported group chat messages where he said, i can burn the whole place down. sturgeon had no history. his pronoun page uses the words he/him. in college he supported black lives matter and did not support former president trump. he also wrote about his low self-esteem and emotional struggles. interesting that his former high school basketball teammates said

he suffered so many concussions in high school that he wore a helmet to play high school basketball. police say sturgeon killed four, injured fine others, two officers, one was grazed, the other remains in critical condition. tucker. >> tucker: thank you so much. kicked off a national conversation about the effect of unsuitables on mass shootings. can we get a tox screen? are we allowed to ask that? we'll take that up future opportunities. first to the case of daniel perry in texas. perry is an army sergeant who was driving for uber during the 2020 black lives matter riot. we know this because parts of what happened next are captured on video. one rioter raised his ak-47 in perry's direction. perry responded shot and killed

the man in self-defense. the local da, soros backed, charged perry with murder. last week perry was convicted. >> perry's family in shock, crying over the fact that he had just been convicted of murder for killing protester derek foster. perry, myself, unable to hide his emotions. hugging his attorneys as he cried. the state wasting no time. perry was turned over into the custody of the travis county sheriff's office. handcuffed instantly. >> tucker: so you're not allowed to defend yourself against rioters, even when they point a rifle at you. that's the lesson. that is incompatible with justice. the governor of texas announced he will pardon perry. it is a little more complicated.

perry is behind bars tonight. the governor has instructed the pardons board to work on expedited review. that is required by law in texas. he is pardoning this man. that is obviously the right thing to do. george soros can't pay to put his political opponents in jail and have a republican governor ignore it. everyone involved in this, if they were the same color, white, but of course greg abbott is a racist for some reason for pardoning perry. watch this. >> i understand what abbott is doing. go back to galveston, texas, and you're gonna fine out what happened. remember it was in texas back men were kept in slavery two years after they had been freed. >> this is what we are dealing with. this is why you ended up having

a black lives matter. republicans don't want to be hard on time when it comes to certain folks. >> if daniel perry gets pardoned for murder in texas, it will only be because he killed the right kind of person. that is a black lives matter protester. >> tucker: but the guy who was shot was white. this is insane. congressman clyburn does not get credit he deserves for being legally dishonest. also totally corrupt. promoting his daughter for government jobs. so the texas pardons board is now reviewing daniel perry's pardon. they are not watching msnbc, we hope. we wanted to speak to one of the few people who knows what daniel perry is going through, sitting behind bars for defending himself. kyle reut rittenhouse

experienced that. thank you for coming on. >> thank you for having me, tucker. >> tucker: here you have a guy, the protester that was killed raised a rifle at him. exactly what happened with you. how do you think daniel perry feels tonight sitting in jail? >> i can only imagine. he's probably sitting there wondering what happened. he defended himself. he knows what he did was right. you have a man with an ak-47 and over 120 rounds of ammo on his person dressed just for war as some people might say with the rifle strapped, the ak-47 raising it towards daniel perry who is in flip flops and beach shorts carrying a revolver. no one wants to mention that he was armed. i see lot of reports saying he fired indiscriminately into a crowd and drove into rioters. they don't want to talk about how his car was swarmed with a

bunch of rioters trying to attack him. >> tucker: he was driving for uber. the least powerful person in our society. attacked by one of the worst people in our society, who's out there rioting. as in your case. you were trying to defend a car lot and a convicted child molester tried to kill you. they took the convicted child molester's side. do you see parallels? >> do you see the double standard in this case? people aren't talking about the second person who attacked daniel perry after sergeant daniel perry defended himself against garrett foster, he was then shot at three times by a person who was never charged by the travis county da. somebody who recklessly fired a slew of shots at daniel perry's car. they don't want to talk about that. they don't want to talk about the recklessness of that. they don't want to charge him. it's a double standard. it's not okay. he fired three shots.

>> tucker: in the middle of a city. but that's okay. kyle rittenhouse, thank you. appreciate it. bud light announced that it hates its own customers, probably you. just to make that perfectly clear they rolled out a new ad celebrating men who dress up like women. that's not going quite as well as bud light had hoped, thank heavens. we've got details on it next.

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and i've kept it off for a year. i had spent so much money on other products that when i saw the commercial for golo, the price was so much cheaper and i thought, "boy, this might not work but why not try it?" it is amazing and it works really well. >> tucker: used to be five years ago, you do your thing, we'll do our thing. we don't bother each other. that was called tolerance. you want to dress up like a woman, fine. now the rules have changed completely. worship me as i dress up like a woman or i'll crush you. that's why suddenly everything, even beer cans, are celebrating

and promoting transgenderism. bud light has just released a commemorative can. his name is dylan mulvaney. here is alyssa hireshied saying she is the first vp of bud light telling us bud light loves dylan but hates its own customers. >> so i had this super clear message. we need to evolve and elevate this brand. what does that mean? it means inclusivity. it means shifting the tone. it means having a campaign that's inclusive and feels lighter and brighter and different and appeals to men and women. representation is at the heart of evolution. you have to see people who reflect you. we have this hangover. bud light has been kind of a brand of bratty kind of out of

touch humor. it was really important that we had another approach. >> tucker: out of touch? is there anyone more out of touch than that woman? is that woman the perfect physical embodiment of the problem in america? yes. how do people like that take charge of our country? the least impressive, the dumbest, the most reaction, people who live in the tiniest world run everything. people who drink light are not impressed. john rich is one of them. he is famous singer songwriter, country star. he joins us with his thoughts on bud light going trapb. i appreciate you coming on tonight. what do you make of this? >> there's a lot of smart really happening people that sit around big conference tables at all the major brands. they spend millions of dollars to market their product. to do what? to sell more of it. whether it's beer or country

music or pickup truck or pretty much anything you can think ofit's their right to market it however they want. they're making a bet this is gonna sell more product. i'm also in this world. i sell music. red neck rivera is a brand of mine. i keep it simple. i go god, family and country. if you love god, family and country, you'll probably love red neck rivera. what's happening, tucker, people who have been loyal to brands for decades are finding it hard to stay loyal to them so they start hunting down other brands that they can support. there's tons of up and coming american brands that people are flooding to, kind of like mine. >> tucker: so you really got to hope -- it's not even owned by the busch family. bud light sales over this. i don't want to be mean or root for bankruptcy. i think in this case we have to hope for that. >> i think the customers decide.

i own a bar in downtown nashville. our number one selling beer up until a couple days ago was what? bud light. i got cases of bud light. in past several days you're hard pressed to find anyone ordering it. as a business owner, if you aren't ordering it, we got to put something else in here. that's capitalism. >> tucker: they make great targets. john rich, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> tucker: central bank digital currency is the end of personal autonomy, the government controls everything. clearly they're coming. a new announcement makes that very obvious.

>> tucker: if the government were ever to digitize currency, your freedoms would evaporate. they could take everything from your bank account. with that in mind, you should

know central bank digital currency's are about to become the norm in europe. christine laguard said the europeans will not be able to use more than $1,000 in cash any more. >> now we have in europe this threshold above 1,000 euros, you cannot pay cash. if you do, you're on the gray market. take your risk. you get fined or go to jail. >> tucker: so you go to jail for spending your own money if they don't control it. that's coming here. she spoke out against it, ran for president. congress woman, thank you very much for coming on. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: this is so distopian. it can't ever come here. you think it might. >> yeah. this is the latest effort by those in power who are inten on

undermining and taking away our own liberties. the central bank digital currency is about government sanctioned surveillance and control. them being able to keep track of every single thing we purchase, whether it's a stick of gum or automobile or anything in between. so if they have all this information and data, which they will, in this system, where does that lead? it gives them power to decide, hey, we don't want to allow you to purchase certain things, or we may deem it necessary to freeze your overall account. this power and what they can do with it is not something you have to imagine. we've already seen how democrats in congress, elizabeth warren and others, are pressuring credit card companies to code and keep track of any purchase made at a store that sells firearms. why? so these private companies can then say, hey, this person is purchasing, i don't know what they deem as a threshold, but they will report that as suspicious activity to law

enforcement and expect law enforcement to go after the purchases, the legal purchases that a private person made. this all comes back to how you open this. one we give up our economic autonomy, we no longer have freedom. once we allow someone else to control our wallet, they then control our freedoms. >> tucker: do you think people understand what this means? it will be sold, as always, an effort to push back against terrorism or international finance fears or crime or whatever. do people understand on a gut level what could be coming? >> i don't think they do. it's understandable because if you listen to what the government is telling us, like with all of these other things, whether it's the patriot act or restrict act, they're doing the same thing with this. this is for your own good, for your own convenience. make it easier for you to conduct transactions when, in fact, they are giving themselves all of the power, take it away

from us because they want to be able to control us. they want to control we, the people. >> tucker: so nicely put. thank you very much for that. >> thanks, tucker. >> tucker: so the nightmare for generations was that our opponents would align against us. under joe biden in two years that's happened. saudi arabia, russia, turkey now all moving toward china. now france, france, can nato survive this? no, they can't. details ahead.

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♪ >> tucker: telling you republicans are going to alienate the rest of the world. it took two years and joe biden has made our main adversary china, stronger than it's ever been. decision to engage in a war with russia, american soldiers are in ukraine fighting russia right now, has done that.

sanctions against moscow un undermine dollar. no one wants dollars if the u.s. government can seize them if you displease their leadership. it's not surprised russia, iran, saudi arabia, have all used plans to use chinese currency instead of the dollar. now even our closest 100-year-old allies are taking off, leaving us. president of france just spent three days in china. when he was there he said, quote, one of the great risk europe faces is getting caught up in crises that are not ours which prevent it from building strategic autonomy. the war in ukraine has nothing to do with france. instead, macron said, europe should work toward becoming a third super power instead of following the u.s. here's the president of france green lighting the violence in taiwan. france is a nato member. how can nato survive?

it's not going to survive. add to list the many things he's broken, joe biden will have destroyed nato, too. you think, why would anyone say that? we're grateful that you watched tonight. we're back tomorrow. we're interviewing donald trump at mar-a-lago. have the best night with the ones you love. sean hannity, ladies and gentlemen. >> sean: i have a group of people. we'll be watching. welcome to hannity. we are back with an incredible live audience. whoa! revved up, ready to go. coming up, we have the judiciary committee just announced they're going to hold a hearing in new york city, the only normal people in the city. next week, to hear directly to victims of alv