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song about waffle house. >> will: might be the first song i ever heard by the joe pa nasa brothers. >> ainsley: if you go and eat at the waffle house, some of them have the music boxes. >> pete: oh, yeah, ours does. >> ainsley: the lady, i believe this is right. the husband started waffle house and his wife is -- sings a song about the waffle house. used to call the waffle house do houseduop. >> pete: i will try that we have waffle house outside our town in nashville we go there once a week. must-go. see if they have the waffle house duop. >> ainsley: take a recording of it. i would love to hear it it's been years. >> will: one of the years i will figure out if he is on ozempic or what is he doing. because he eats like a 400-pound person. eats waffle house and tries to get us to order mcdonald's every morning. i have nothing against these

things. if you do it as often as you mention. >> pete: i do it. >> will: he is on it. >> ainsley: are you taking ozempic. >> pete: combination of ozempic and agh. it works for me. i don't recommend it for other people. pizza hut, mcdonald's and waffle house, boom. >> will: one quick example i ordered breakfast no he ordered breakfast yesterday get me the egg and bacon wrap. when it came i have to admit to you once i checked out i changed nine a pizza roll wrap. 7:00 a.m. on sunday go with a pizza roll wrap. >> ainsley: eat anything off the floor. eats a cheeseburger if the patty not even the bun the patty he will pick it up and eat it. >> pete: i have a 15 second rule. >> ainsley: even for wet things. >> pete: it's all good. >> will: the "wall street journal" now reporting a social media account overseen by former navy non-commissioned officer

help spread secrets leaked by jack teixeira. >> ainsley: push to find out how he had access to those in the first place. >> pete, ainsley and will, good morning, friends. even with one suspect into investigation into how classified materials were first stolen, disseminated in a gaming chat room and spread even further online remains ongoing. you mentioned the "wall street journal" report which says that materials were also posted on a telegram social media account with some 65,000 followers. the journal says one of the people who oversaw the page and its contents is a former non-commissioned u.s. navy officer who also supports russia in its war against ukraine. defense secretary lloyd austin ordered a review of the leak and how u.s. intention is shared throughout the military. on capitol hill, lawmakers remain furious over this leak. they have a lot of questions and want to know how the heck this happened in the first place. >> the system failed. this is a major failure.

the sources and methods of how we collect on adversaries have been compromised and i am stunned that somebody at that level could have so much access so the question is how did he get it and why did he do it and we -- some people need to be fired over this. >> in an op-ed posted on foxnews.com, a retired army officer writes that the documents leaked deserve a closer look. he says the leaked intelligence documents sound alarm bell regarding america's role in ukraine's war. it's past time that president biden level with the american people about our interest and whether our continued role in that war could escalate into something much worse. we are waiting to see whether or not this will have any impact on both the u.s. and ally strategy when it comes to ukraine. the white house repeatedly said it's in it for the long haul to help ukraine with whatever it needs. we don't expect the president to talk about the leak today no. public events on his schedule. but the man accused of leaking those documents in the first place is expected back in court a little bit later on this week.

will, pete and ainsley. back to you guys. >> pete: thank you very much. as mark was talking speculating. will said why don't you talk to the person on the house intel committee. why don't we do that. bring in elise stefanik chair of the house republican conference and the house armed services committee and intel committee. good morning. >> happy to be here. >> pete: what do you make of this? we step back and say how did this happen? another officer who is out affiliated with russians sharing the information. how did that happen. >> very important questions, pete. that's why this week at speaker mccarthy's leadership bipartisan briefing for all members of congress. i sit on the house intelligence committee and any type of leak especially of this gravity. we need to investigate it and make sure it never happens again. i have a lot of questions. why was there such extensive access to so much extensive material for such a young national guardsman. that creates lots of questions we have to answer and we'll make sure in our oversight role in

congress we strengthen protection of national security and classified documents. >> ainsley: jim jordan was on the curvey couch sitting where you are this morning he is in the city because house judiciary is talking about all the violent crime here in new york and want to do something about it. call the victims of violent crime in manhattan. they are going to have a field hearing on this topic today. i know you are going to be there. you are not on judiciary, but you are here because you represent new york and we have a problem here. >> absolutely. new york is the epicenter of this catastrophic crime crisis we will seeing it across the country. new yorkers know this is a direct result of failed left democrat polts. failed reform governor hochul or whether it's radical d.a.s refusing to prosecute violent crime. democrats their response has been interesting and very telling. they want to silence these victims of crime. we want to give them a voice. they deserve a voice to make sure that the american people and every new yorker knows there are consequences that are devastating to these failed

policies. >> will: yeah, i think we have these stats where those watching at home can see this. but the new york city crime over the last two years. now, murder is down. you know, when rudy giuliani was mayor of new york city, he adopted a crime philosophy of the broken windows theory so prosecute small crimes. they don't metastasize into big crimes. you are looking at the opposite now. small crimes get by, shoplifting, larceny, how long until murder tracks? how long until big crimes group. let the small crimes go get the big crimes. put shoat felony cases down graded under alvin bragg. # 9% up to 52%. so, we're taking big crimes and we are turning them into small crimes and we are going to get more big crimes. >> that's what we have seen. if you look at the stats going back to 2019. murare up. violent crimes are up. you cannot open the newspaper every single day in new york and not see more coverage of heinous crimes. this impacts real people and real families. it's part of the research why people no longer feel safe and

secure in cities like new york. this field, this is what republicans are committed to. gettinghouse agriculture, ways d means, budget committee traveling around the country to hear firsthand about where these crises have having. homeland security committee had a hearing at the southern border. democrats are smearing us but the reality is we know we work for the american people and we want to hear their feedback. >> pete: speaking of democrats smearing you, here is what neither chuck schumer had to say about all of. this the house g.o.p. must be clear and vociferous that defunding the fbi, defunding the department of justice will not happen. instead of calls to defund the federal agencies that do so much to protect new york, house g.o.p. and senate must recognize and appreciate the dedication, devotion, demonstrated every day by men and women central law

enforcement communities keep the united states safe. >> democratic party who embrace defund the police are now trying to turn it on you. >> that's exactly right. pete, chuck schumer should have spoken out against the defund the police movement including in new york city where the city council advocated for defunding the police. leaders of the defund the police movement. republicans proudly support our law enforcement. >> we proudly support the police. and when it comes to the fbi and doj, their politicization in those agencies that we have to go after. they should not be political arms of the democrat party. they should focus on law enforcement and rule of law in this country. >> ainsley: tucker carlson sat down with elon musk. he is going to come on our show a little bit later to talk about this. they talked about the concerns of ai. talked about the government being able to have access to our exiter accounts, listen to. this the degree to which various government agencies effectively had full access to everything that was going on in twitter blue my mind.

i was not aware of that. >> would that include people's dms? yes. >> what is your reaction to that. >> that should concern every american. thank goodness elon has shown a light on overreach of the government on twitter. arm of the u.s. government whether the fbi paying twitter $3 million to suppress the hunter biden laptop story or federal agencies having access to dms. i'm looking forward to getting more information not only from the interview but in our oversight role as congress. we need to hold big tech accountable. we need answers to these questions. the american people, this is going to be a surprise to the american people and it's very, very concerning. i'm so glad that elon musk is shining a spotlight on this. >> will: i hope when you do explore and i anticipate that you will, this is not just a conversation about twitter. >> this is a conversation about facebook. youtube, instagram, i can't imagine twitter was somehow unique in their approach into looking into our dms.

>> it's about big tech broadly. you are right, will. this is why in our oversight role we need to hold big tech accountable. i have constituents very concerned about facebook's overreach. the impact it has on our kids. i have constituents who are concerned about the impacts instagram has on young women if you look at some of the statistics with mental health challenges. make sure weave provide answers and pogo solutions to very concerning big tech questions. >> pete: absolutely, get more of that interview with elon musk on "tucker carlson tonight" and more of tucker carlson on this show because is he coming up at 8:40 on "fox & friends." don't miss it. representative, thank you so much for being here. >> thank you. >> will: go over to ashley for additional headlines. >> ashley: want to start in biloxi, mississippi, a shooting there left five people hurt, including a police officer. >> several people were injured. including a police officer. at this point, we know that everyone is safe some are in serious condition but they are stable. >> local agencies responded to the incident on beach boulevard

shortly after 8:00 p.m. last night. biloxi police chief says they are treating the area as multiple crime scenes. at least one person killed and eight others hurt five children apartment fire in indiana. called to the complex before dawn where people were already jumping from their balconies to escape the flames. the cause of the fire sunday investigation. jeer winter storm blasting the midwest over the weekend follow a late season cold front. you can see here the flooding and snow fall in parts of minnesota yesterday. issued for much of the upper midwest with some areas expecting a foot of snow by this evening. minneapolis could also get about three inches while northern wisconsin and michigan expected to get hit the hardest. for the latest updates check out the fox weather app. on favorite connected tv device. a pennsylvania pizza delivery man helping officers deliver a

slice of justice. look at this. security camera capturing him trip a man being chased by police in a pennsylvania neighborhood yesterday. police were able to catch up to their suspect and then later thank the delivery driver on facebook and ask if he wanted a job. the pizza was delivered completely unharmed. i have to say if it was me, it would be c flipped upside down. it would be a disaster if i had to do that. >> kept the pizza and caught the suspect. >> ainsley: we had pizza yesterday. did you not. did you have pizza yesterday? >> ashley: was i supposed to i love pizza but no. >> pete: love it. >> will: speaking of that guy tripping the suspect, i think a little bit later you and i are going to go off the wall and talk about a lot of this citizens stepping up in the -- stepping into the tide of this rising crime to do something about it themselves. that's later in the show. also, mouse trap.

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♪ >> pete: florida governor ron desantis set unveil new crack down on disney after it tried stripping new oversight board which desantis put in place stripping it of its authority. desantis is setting a, quote,

mouse trap. to void disney's move and privileges since the tax district was established more than 55 years that ago. joining us now host of varney and company and american built on fox business and our friend stuart varney. thanks for being here. >> stuart: good morning, here. >> pete: feels like a back and forth. a little confusing at this point. in february desantis got rid of the self-governing district. replaced it with own tourism board. what is it. >> stuart: classic contest between florida republican desantis and california disney iger democrat. that's what's going on here. republican -- i think he is going to be the candidate for the presidency ron desantis. >> pete: you think is he going to declare. >> stuart: yes he is. put anti-wokeism going after disney as part of his national appeal. he doesn't like woke corporations. and he wants to control them. i think they tried that on a national basis. that's his presidential

standing. robert iger meanwhile now runs disney. i think he wants to be president. yes, sir, i do believe he wants to be president in the back of his mind. and is he a very woke guy. so here is disney, woke, going democrat going up against florida republican desantis. it's a classic contest. florida vs. california. democrat, republican. desantis, iger. >> each will up the ante and in this case is governor desantis no, no we exerted our control and we deserve so. >> stuart: desantis is going to win this one. he will control what he wants to control. >> pete: they say he is setting a mouse trap. >> stuart: good word mouse trap against disney. >> pete: not bad. i didn't come up with it. on to another story that plays into florida and california. is this staggering change the flight of people from blue states to red states. we have seen the numbers. here is some of the numbers out there. los angeles county shed 90,000. cook county illinois outside of

chicago 68,000. queens, the bronx, that's all new york city. and then places where they are moving in, stuart, it's not surprising, whether it's arizona, texas, florida, elsewhere. >> stuart: this is about a variety of subjects. yes, of course, it's about taxes. low tax florida, high tax no. newyork city. education. illinois, california, new york, new jersey, school choice doesn't get much of a look-in does it? >> pete: not at all. >> stuart: florida, arizona, texas, school choice, very attractive. culture, pros supporter. prosperity. where are the prosperous states republican run free states where you have a business friendly climate. very different from newark, new jersey, illinois, california. there is this national split democrat-run states not doing very well. losing population at an increasing rate to those states which are booming florida, texas, et cetera, et cetera. >> what are states like

california going to do if you are losing tax base, has it just become more blue? >> we heard the latest proposal from california. the more you make, the more you will pay for electricity. >> pete: sliding scale of electric bill? >> correct. if you make over 180,000 bucks a year you will pay four times for electricity what a poor person is paying. so it's a sliding scale. the more you make, the more you pay. >> pete: i actually believe it completely. why wouldn't you start to pinch and squeeze the rich guys even more if that's how demonize. >> stuart: democrats realize their green policies hurt their constituents the most. poorer people have to pay higher energy prices. it doesn't work. so what do they do? end up with subsidy scheme. take it from this group and give it to that group so that group still votes for us. >> pete: sure. >> stuart: what a mess. get out of here. >> stuart: 7:30. you get to catch him three hours

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>> will: as neighborhoods across the country see increase in crime average everyday people are standing up to criminals. >> pete: as crime goes up and impacts you you have to decide what you will do in that moment. off the wall best examples most prominent ones of people taking matters into their own hand. yesterday we covered this story out of kentucky cut. >> will: check out this homeowner, he looks out his window he sees first one guy. >> pete: one dude. nobody else. >> will: taking his infinity and he fights back. he immediately attacks the guy and surprisingly in this case the carjacker fights back as well. so now we have got a brawl going on. and the carjacker has buddies. >> pete: he didn't know there was a mercedes waiting around the corner two of them go this

guy never actually takes any action. the fourth guy comes in primaably the get away driver starts pump ming him in the case when you see kicks like this thrul lethal. >> we talked about kicks this weekend. ultimate sign of cowardice. videos tough guys like to kick people on the ground. here what happens i like. at the end four dudes and he is still holding on to one guys leg like you are not going anywhere. i got you. the guys didn't run until our vigilante our home defender's wife starts yelling from inside the house calling the cops saying the cops are coming and ultimately the criminal cowards run run b.a. >> i. >> right outside the hartford connecticut. >>s woman you may have seen this video. woman working out at the gym and she opens the door for a man right at the beginning of that video thinking okay, is he coming in to work out. he was coming in-to-a assault her. and she fought back as well. many people point out the lessons we can take from. this first of all, let's start with the constructive criticism. you don't open the door for people that don't have access to your business or to your gym.

but she was proceeding through the world. >> pete: look at that my goodness. >> will: i'm doing solid for this guy. next thing you know she is in this situation. now let's praise her, boy she doesn't go down without a fight. as soon as she gets an opportunity to flee. she does. this is it one of those things we were talking about it before this segment, you know fight or flight. in this case she is trapped in the gym. so you have to fight. but, when it comes to your car infinity like in that moment do i fight or say my life is not worth my car? that's a different situation each one schiewt ler in this situation. >> will: now check out this business owner. okay? so this business owner, it's a -- i believe was this a car business this was a retail situation. >> pete: car care auto spa. >> he notices, so he being held here. he notices the gun is jammed. the perp's gun is jammed. it's like it's my moment. >> pete: yes. of it's my moment. struggling, struggling, struggling with it.

imagine the goes for it because you can tell it's locked to the rear. you have got to know weaponry to recognize on handgun that this is not handgun he has been able to charge properly and when it was pointed think about the instinct it takes a is pointed at you you have enough presence presence of mind it's not loaded properly so you lung for it. >> will: it two takeaways. replace cars but can't replace your life. other is just to be clear. he and i were hanging out with the guy who killed bin laden rob o'neill yesterday. we were talking about the mind set of guys on something like seal team 6. one thing you never know and i defer to my friend is how are you going to respond to gunfire. how are you going to respond in that moment of crisis? you don't know that about yourself until you are in that moment. you have got to give all of these people the praise of how they responded in that moment. >> pete: you are absolutely right. you don't know. what your instinct is always to cower at some moment then your

training kicks in. also the peer pressure of those around you. i'm in the military in a combat situation. this is how we act. that is no way that's the mindset of this guy. sure he is aware of the fact that crime could be possible. especially because, look at this. it's chicago. in 2022 a crime ridden city. where they have had too much of this going on. but to flip that switch and be prepared to take on a perpetrator with a gun pointed in your face and recognizing it's malfunctioned. that's a special action. i mean, a lot of folks here just open the drawer and give the money and say my life is not worth the money probably what you should do in that senario he went to another action. >> will: point of this conversation having today more and more average americans not navy seals, not men who have fought for this country average americans stand up in the face of this like this clerk as well. now she is confronted by an armed robber. >> it's a mini-mart, westlake district mini-mart. look at that, he has a knife pointed directly at her.

what are her options really in that moment? she is able to get the knife away, charge at -- i can't imagine. again, this is los angeles, in february, he has a mask on. so masks are -- he is not real concerned about covid. using that as a guise to come in and walk behind the counter and pointing a knife directly at her. to grab the blade of a knife high likelihood of injury. >> will: and goes on offense. >> pete: when we watch a clip like that. i don't know anything about this perpetrator. is he a repeated offender? to your point about broken windows in new york city. how many times was one of those criminals gone into a store and been able to steal with impunity and then in the next moment it gets violent or they get more aggressive in that situation? it's a product of a lack of accountability case after case after case to the point where now someone's life is in jeopardy. i don't know if that's the case here but emblematic.

do you know where i would have look at the maps how many states have become not conceal carry, not open carry, but no restriction gun right states. i believe it's 26 states now. you can be around. there's no conceal carry. there is no license. there is no open care. it is you can have your gun and when the perp, when the criminal has to confront that reality, which is this reality times 10, then we will see crime come down. >> pete: you are exactly right. it's called constitutional carry the state of tennessee has it. and i carry all the time when i'm at home. why not? i don't want to find in a situation where i'm not able to defender myself and others. >> will: wad guys doing the calculation what's my snrisk. >> pete: new york city gigantic gun free zone and then have alvin bragg when they do fight back they are charged with murder in the process. >> will: there you go. off the wall. coming up, a new generation of taking of the title tech savvy. >> erase. erase all pictures of rom.

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related to discrimination, related to even the ways that roads are designed and built. >> ashley: buttigieg's comments come a week after members of the squad and congressional democrats pressured him to reform so-called racist traffic enforcement. just weeks before nation king charles and queen camilla get a boost in polling in the u.s. new poll in unique royal company's approval rating up 30 points. and in the new report it, also reveals charles and his son prince harry have spoken since the release of harry's memoir "spare." the source told the sun there is a willingness to mend their relationship from both sides. this follows news that harry will be attending his father's coronation but out when his wife meghan. and in golf, jordan spieth let down by putter in intense play off at the rbc heritage. spieth missed this birdie putt that would have given him the

win. patrick back birdie on the third playoff hole. that gave the british star first victory since winning the u.s. open last year. the super marrow movie taking in over $650 million at the worldwide box office. >> they are all counting on us. >> mario! >> no pressure. >> ashley: video game adaptation highest grossing film so far this year after being in theaters for just two weeks. and those are some of your headlines, guys. back to you. >> ainsley: thank you, ashley. check in with janice dean for fox weather forecast. >> janice: good morning. gray day in new york city and much warmer than it was a few days ago. take a look at the maps. front moving across the east coast. that will bring the potential for showers and thunderstorms from florida up towards maine and then we have a snow storm that is currently happening for the upper midwest and the great

lakes. we have blizzard warnings in effect for parts of northern michigan. i know, a blizzard warning in mid april. it does happen across this area. but i know they are pretty sick and tired of winter in these spots where we are seeing over a foot of rain. [siren] >> janice: there is my friends. big honk for the bravest. we love you. take a look at the wind gust forecast 40 to 50 miles per hour. that's going to be tough for people to travel and get in and get out. certainly check your airlines and stay off the roads. i'm sure a lot of folks, a lot of local facilities are saying to not be on the roads today. and then the severe storm threat ramps up wednesday, thursday, friday. large hail, damaging winds and potential for tornadoes. there is your forecast today 70 with some showers. the boston marathon is happening. looks like showers in the forecast and temperatures in the mid 50's. all right. ainsley, you missed the fire truck. >> ainsley: i could see it because you are on the other side of the glass over there and i could see it. your husband is a firefighter.

>> janice: we love them. >> ainsley: my daughter and i always pray for wherever they are going they put the fire out safely. van january thank you. we love all of our first responders. >> ainsley: we do. thanks, janice. >> janice: you got it. >> ainsley: no secret when it comes to technology that millions of americans are still struggling to navigate the digital world. >> double click, see? >> that's exactly what i did double click. >> you are still just clicking twice not double click. >> i'm not an idiot. double click. >> you can't possibly think that's the same thing. >> it's the exact same thing. >> ainsley: in reality it's no laughing matter and to avoid scenes like that. more older adults are getting familiar with the digital technology that makes life a little bit easier for all of us and can even save our lives. here with the most popular digital tech for older users is kurt the cyberguy. hey, kurt. >> ainsley, good morning to you. a little surprising data coming out from a study aarp. older americans are embracing technology like never before.

just look at the numbers themselves. last year, the spend on average was $912. that compares to two years before of just $394 per older american. that's a huge leap, that's more than double. and what they're embracing may be no surprise to you. wearable health tech comes in at number one. it is an apple watch, a fit bit, what is happening with older americans first it was a novelty and now it's really a wellness and health tooling where they are learning how had onto monitor their heart, their cholesterol, oxygen level with these devices. spending the time to get educated. the second one, ainsley, is this other one home assistance. amazon echos. google home guys. these went from sort of those novelty questions like hey, what's the weather like to really starting to engage use of them to turn on lights, off and on, make calls, play music. and learning how they are very

useful in emergencies online. we will show you how to set up your device in case something bad happens at home. the third thing, streaming services. a huge embrace, largely from covid but it didn't stop. netflix, ju hulu. older americans streaming. used to be that phone call how does this work? now you have older americans actually doing a better job than a lot of younger americans in terms of understanding the technology. and then fourth thing people are embracing password protection go figure. we have had so much scam activity happen and be targeted toward america that two factor authentication is a household term now and a lot of older americans, that's when you set up your password and you have it check your phone or email to send you a code to do a

double-check to make sure that's really you. and then the fifth and final thing, scan prevention with antivirus software. we have seen a giant leap in this. again, we have americans that are being targeted $8.8 billion in scams last year alone. up $2 billion over one year. so, embracing antivirus protection on all your twices, it's paying off for people. they don't have to sweat the bullets. targeted attacks come with greater frequency and greater precision and they are really sneak with about them. >> ainsley: article says if you are scammed that younger adults are getting scammed more than older ones. the older ones when they do get scammed they lose a lot more money maybe because they have more money? >> i think you are right about that. it's interesting though. older americans are more wise to the security threats not using

antivirus software until it happens to them. loss is less but it's happening more frequently. you would think it would be the opposite. if you want to see how to set up your devices for an emergency at home and also get protection it's at cyberguy.com and more at foxnews.com/tech where we have tech features there 24/7. >> ainsley: okay. good deal. thank you so much, kurt. great to see you. >> good to see you, ainsley. >> ainsley: coming up, can't miss interview with piers morgan 30 years since the infamous siege at waco that killed more than 80 people. our next guest was there. how it changed police raids forever. ♪ is waiting... because after crushing yesterday's meeting... ...you deserve a little me time. with 24 trusted brands by wyndham to choose from, your wyndham is waiting. get the lowest price at wyndhamhotels.com ♪ today, my friend you did it, you did it, you did it... ♪ centrum silver is now clinically shown

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change of federal rules on mortgage fee could say give high risk home buyers discounted rates. on may 1st new changes to loan level price adjustments would make mortgage rates lower for buyers with credit ratings. buyers who spent years building good credit to pay more. the move experts are calling unprecedented is part of the current administration affordable housing push. and gen z may not have a lot of money compared to older generations w but that is not stopping them from going on vacation. a new survey reveals 52% of gen zers are frequent travelers who are taken three or more trips a year. that's about the same of millennials' travel habits, more than gen xers and baby boomers. a look at the income show many of the frequent fliers don't make more than $50,000 per year. and those are your headlines, will, back to you. >> will: thank you, ashley. 30 years ago this week federal agents conducted their final

raid on the mount carmel center ending a 51-day siege on the branch davidians in waco, texas. >> dangerous undercurrent sentiment sworn against 78 people protect them. tcan still be felt today. >> will: died over the next two month operation. former atf agent chuck was there. thank you for being with us this morning. i'm fascinated to hear your perspective and watch this on fox nation. i feel like i have done my best to dive down the are a bit hole and watch every documentary come out about waco. i would love to shed some light on this. i feel like i have seen it, chuck fr rks every point of view. let's start with the initial raid. i think many say why did the atf need to roll up in that sort of show of force? why not walk up knock on the

door and say here is the warrant we need a search for your lethal weapons. >> well, the fact that they had illegal weapons is a danger point you can't just roll up with a couple of agents and say we are here to search for homemade hand grenades and machine guns converted from semi-automatic rifles. a dynamic entry was a good option. you know, i have some problems with the plan after that. but, there was also a concern that the group was going to commit or had practiced some type of mass suicide. so, you know, they evaluated the options, they went with the dynamic entry. the problem with the dynamic entry was the absolute crucial element of that was the element of surprise and we lost that you know two or three hours before the raid. and then that's what happened. >> will: a local law enforcement or somebody asked for directions and ended up being the mailman

they asked directions from had family at the compound. you lost that element of surprise. that is part of this documentary. here's a little bit on that specific part of the story. >> operation was called operation trojan horse because they were going to be hidden within the cattle trailers. >> the thinking was cattle trailers are just all over texas, so it's not the least bit unusual to see them. >> unlike the greeks, sneaking into the city of troy, the atf agents were deeply unprepared for battle. >> david karesh had been preparing his followers for just such a battle. where atf didn't anticipate even one shot being fired. karesh and the branch davidens were expecting it was going to be all out war high up janet

reno down the level of leadership and planning. >>' did the best we could once we came under the gunfire. the plan was flawed from the get go. no contingency plans, what if the trailers got stuck under mud. came under fire before reaching the house. there really was no backup plan. everything had to go exactly right in order for it to work and of course things went horribly wrong from the very beginning there really wasn't a plan to call us back once we started rolling that way. once they gave us show time show time, once that the point of no return there was no way back. >> will: the other big scandal or controversial part is the end of the raid, right? where those inside the house say

flash bangs or smoke grenades caused the fire that ended up causing all those lives from the government's perspective there is audio that backs this up it was davidians themselves lighting the fire. what is your perspective on that? >> yeah, that has been a point of contention forever. i heard those audiotapes back in the 90s before the trial. it's clear the dividens are talking about adding fuel to the fire. it's clear -- i mean, if you look at karesh's prophecies were always about burning up and it's clear they started the fire. i don't think the fbi helped but, you know. >> will: chuck, we will check this out. fascinating story. scandalous waco, on fox nation, we appreciate you being with us this morning. don't move, we have a big final hour of "fox & friends." congressman nathaniel moran, tucker carlson ahead of his must see interview with elon musk straight ahead. can greatly impact your future. - are, are you qualified to do this? - what?

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