killed, age ranging from 14 to 65. a 65-year-old murdered, a 14-year-old murdered and it has become acceptable. i encourage people to read that piece in the "new york post." >> neil: and we will, my friend. caldwell on that. "the five" is now. >> hello, everyone, i'm dana perino, along with judge jeanine pirro, jessica tarlov and greg gutfeld. this is "the five." [screaming] >> adam: democratic leaders making excuses after a violent teen takeover rampages the streets blocking traffic and

smashing car windows and destroying property in chicago. two teens were shot and the whole thing was organized on social media. police were outnumbered and only managed to make 15 arrests. a woman caught in the mayhem describing the scene after her car was attacked. >> i jump in my car. my husband go to the hospital. >> what did they do? >> because the guy -- in the f face. >> dana: democrats think it was just teens being teens, mayor brandon johnson condemning what happened but says it is not constructive to demonize youth and the outgoing mayor lori lightfoot said this. >> there are lots of opportunities to redirect young people to safe spaces. here is the thing, the mass majority of young people came downtown because it was great weather and an opportunity to enjoy the city, that is entirely

appropriate. there were a few that came with different intention and they have and will be dealt with. i will not use your language, which i think is wrong, to say it is mayhem. >> dana: chicago chaos as crime makes more chaos in new york city and republicans holding a hearing that features victims of liberal policies. >> all types of criminal elements free to do what they want, when they want, however they want to whomever they want with no consequences, no deterrence. >> do you believe the criminals who murdered your son received justice? >> absolutely not. there should be no plea deals for murder. >> do you feel your family was treated appropriately in the criminal justice system? >> absolutely not, we were treated like garbage. >> dana: greg, here on a monday, a lot of crime blows up, especially in chicago on the weekend, your take on the chicago scene or the new york

hearing. >> greg: i find it when language is deemed more dangerous, if you express words about mob violence, god forbid you say these people are acting like animals, that is racist. the mayor bemoans the activity, the mayor that cancelled homework. rioting isun if only because it is unsupervised, you think they are going to say i wouldn't do this if their was activities, maybe a potluck at church we could go to. their mindsets are competing for the brains and i will not say young blacks, i will assume the crowds were mostly black, i cannot tell.

safe guess because we talk about chicago and talk about the crime that is going on there that is affecting black minorities and families most. republicans say you can do anything as long as you get education and stay out of trouble, the world is your oyster and the left does the opposite. you can't do anything, racism is ever-present overwhelming obstacle. what does that do? it tells young kids that they can do anything. that they can go out and beat the crap out of innocent people and loot and destroy property because their life is already screwed. right? their life is already over, there is unspeakable obstacle in front of them, it doesn't matter what they do, so they throw away their lives with stupid behavior. >> dana: judge, comment whatever you want, but the black caucus

chair said, since i'm glutton for punishment and i will get weirdo replies, i would look at behave your of young people as political act and statement, mas protest against poverty and segregation, which guarantees the 15 people arrested, he wouldn't blame them for crime committed. >> jeanine: there is disconnect between what people are saying and what is upon haing on the street. they try to convince us of this in new york when kathy hochul ran for governor. it is a perception problem in chicago. the day after this happened, chicago police encouraged people to enjoy what the city has to offer a day after the teen chaos. let me make one thing perfectly clear. you can have people come out and say like brandon johnson did, the new mayor of chicago, it is not constructive to demonize the youth who have been starved of

opportunity in their own communities. i disagree. it is time to demonize them and send them to jail. i'm tired of the old argument, is it parents or school or the police who should be in charge? right now when you're in a public area and you cause this mayhem and anarchy, this is when law enforcement has to come in and there has to be consequences and the way they started the hearing in new york, dana, congressman jerome nadler talks about this is about somebody else, dan goldman ran for congress, i'm a former prosecutor and i know how to prosecute crime. he comes out and says your experiences to the mother we just heard who painfully described what happened, your experiences are devastating,

this is charade, cover-up for donald trump. this is not about a charade. this is about people living their lives in front of the rest of us and the sooner we decide there has to be a plan to turn this around, sooner kids go online and post we're going to go out, steal, beat people up, jump on are cas, break down buses, we're going to have fights and have car spins and in california, they actually passed a law specific to what they are doing with these -- what do they call them, greg? u-turns when they get the cars. >> dana: they spin them around. >> greg: i love you think i would know the answer to that, i actually don't. >> jeanine: there is a new crime that outlaws it and it is time to put kids in jail. >> dana: jessica, feel free to you can ta-about whatever you want, but i noticed this morning, each witness in new york gave opening statement,

they said i don't care what your politics are, this is what is happening in the city. jose albasaid, i'm not a republican or democrat, i'm here because this happened to me and he is worried it will happen to other people. >> jessica: remember the woman who had the baby carriage hit, she was a liberal. she said nothing to do with politics, they tried to kill my kid and me, too, and that is how people feel. few issues transcend politics and crime happens to be one of them. >> greg: you said -- >> jessica: i think it does, the approach to how parties deal with it and talk about people and who they are trying to demonize are so stark that you do end up looking at them differently. to the point this was a show trial this morning, i was happy the entire cohort of democrats showed up to do this. >> dana: they haven't to others.

>> jessica: they haven't to others. they pointed out the fact that jim jordan represents somewhere the crime rates are higher than new york city, kevin mccarthy, bakersfield, more chance of being a victim if you live there than in new york city. they should have meetings in memphis, st. louis, go to toledo. alabama, what went on was heart heartwrenching. >> jeanine: the sweet 16 party. >> jessica: or honor roll kid that gets shot in the head. this is not about new york city. they turned it into that because of alvin bragg. they wanted to show cruelty to donald trump at this moment, he is saying alvin bragg is coming for him. if they cared about crime, they would show up in a city where

crime is worse than here. >> dana: this is first of many hearings. >> jessica: i'm sure they will be in jim jordan's hometown next. >> they thought next stop would be chicago. talk about the comparison of crime as compared to choice to book, indict and go after a presidential candidate for bookkeeping, we won't call it error, bookkeeping violation, it shows perverted sense of priority in new york. here is the thing, you can't stop an act if you can't describe an act. greg, i saw the same thing you did in that, my focus on the choice of words. lori lightfoot said i wouldn't choose to call it mayhem. glad you have taken that moral stance, how about mayor elect brandon johnson said listen to this sinister choice of words,

how about looting corporations taxing in search to turn a profit. corporation that wants to turn a profit amounts to looting. inability to describe an act and judge, the point is to change perception in our minds and citizen minds so we can no longer understand reality. when you are in the middle of what you saw in chicago or live in new york, reality is unescapable. >> dana: on the hearing today in new york, what is the federal taxpayer nexus, a lot of money goes to -- federal taxpayers pay, you and me, that is nexus there and i heard today theres a guy in chicago saying it is walmart's fault because that is why they have food desert because walmart is trying to take advantage of the people. walmart just left, closed four stores issue the next four is

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>> that is for hunter. president biden back from ireland, he is not in any mood to talk, snapping at reporters who are pestering him about his 2024 plans. >> can you tell us the last few

days changed your calculus on when to announce plans for 2024? >> no, we will announce relatively soon. this trip reinforced my sense of otimism about what can be done. >> so you made a plan? >> i told you, my plan is to run again. >> sorry, gramps. closed door meetings about when to rule out campaign are intensifying, with republican in-fighting he feels little pressure, dana. you are the political mastermind, is this the rose garden strategy where they let republicans fight it out? >> dana: partly. >> greg: i knew my phrase. >> dana: the staff asked him about it, i told you i am

running. no, his staff is saying not yet. they want republicans to do in-fighting. biden love the focus to be on trump and see if he can figure out a way to get in the basement and go through with the next election. something anying in the last month, his poll numbers have collapsed, worse than they were before. there is no viable, excuse me marianne and robert, what if trump is not the nominee? when they announce and add in financial disclosure issues issue the other issue is the issue that they are talking about now with dianne feinstein. not saying joe biden is in a position dianne feinstein is. when are you too old to do the job? and it is a real discussion, i

don't think the ireland was great for the white house. i know they will disagree with me. as viewer observing, it was not great. >> greg: put it that way, biden, feinstein, john fetterman, not the brain trust. called a lib before 10 a.m., do you think he ever actually came back? >> jeanine: he went to the beach house. >> greg: to the beach house. >> will: at the beach or home like feinstein, we talk a lot about artificial intelligence, future with little control. i suggest we might have artificial intelligence presidency. who knows who is in control, a committee of people and to think joe biden would run again at age of 82, end of term being 86, like we are going to embrace future where not sure who is the

leader, not sure who is in control. if i might, greg, fascinating report out, greg, you may have about the rise in independence over last couple years. 45%, they think largely griven driven by gen-x. we think independent means centrist and i do not think that is what it means. i think america first donald trump restructure did reveal optight for a populous message with some serve tichl in there that is totally restructured the way we see politics and doesn't fit cleanly into republican and democrat. >> greg: judge, imagine if trump took his family on a family vacation and we paid for it. >> jeanine: on air force one. greek pronounced. >> jeanine: him and his sister

and his grandkid, the one grandkid he recognizes, dana. the trip reinforces opimism about running. he was arrested and now can run. i agree with what will was saying, i was stunned at percentage of independents who are outnumbering both republicans and democrats. people are fed up with the parties, fed up with politics, i think people see issues not as right or left, but real issue. can i pay for food on the table? crime is a real issue. i don't care if it is alvin bragg or rudy giuliani prosecuting crime, i want it to stop. what we've got is joe biden who is the lone car driver in the democrat lane and you know, he's at the lowest number he's ever been, i think 40 right now, one of the lowest numbers donald

trump had and it doesn't mean anything. people reach that number, some have gotten re-elected and some not. two have gotten re-elected from 40 and two have not. may look solid and secure for joe biden, i don't know if it is. this is a different time. i know what you will talk about in terms of abortion and overall impact on the election and to a certain xnt i do agree with you on that, but same time, it is not about party, something else is going on in the country. >> greg: jessica, we don't need to go to you now. >> jessica: the judge is being nice, oh, i'm going to lose my time. yes, i would mention that and we've been talking about the rise of independence for years they are not centrist, one or two issues make it impossible to

vote for the other side when things are polarized. a few seasons ago, talk about limited or bigger government, tack brackets were closer together, no one talking about going to eisenhower level, people were saying 10% range. the abortion issue was major and was major in the 2022 midterm and something interesting happened this weekend, major gop donor, billionaire, went to the "new york times" ands he's stopping campaign donations to ron desantis, he and his friends are concerned about the new six-week heartbeat bill and he mention book banning, right through the heart that the gop is making they are not banning books. this guy wants to back you and pay for your campaign and he sees what is going on and

alienation. greek what books talking about banning, "cotlor purple" or the stuff that has sex i? you can probably get the books anywhere, you just can't have a teacher use it for instruction, how is that banning? >> jessica: people know what they feel about this issue, they know what they have heard from local politicians. >> greg: they are being misled. >> jessica: i'm quoting a gop donor, something i agree on him next to nothing. >> greg: he is saying something is happening that he doesn't know about? >> jessica: elections have know cosequences. >> greg: i've never heard that before. >> jessica: glad i was able to coin it right here on "the five." to the point go the "vacation" the scene in the counts r county mayo rally, people were

acstatic, i expect murphy to be a joe biden walk-out music going forward. this wasn't like this guy was a nothing burger and he wasn't well received. >> jeanine: in ireland. >> will: he is president of the united states. >> jeanine: you act like he is an international embarrassment. >> jeanine: nobody said that. >> jeanine: roll the tape. >> greg: i will. >> jessica: one more thing, if the trumps had gone on vacation excluding the fact donald trump has germophobia and can go to his own resorts. he flies home every night, so he can sleep in his own bed. it is different. the guy went to ireland, did meet with elect officials. >> jeanine: yeah. >> jessica: you made a stink about it.

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intended to cause division over a beer. then bud dropped new featuring galloping through american landmarks, the narrator saying it is bigger than beer, it is about the american spirit. judge? enough or too late? >> jeanine: what do you mean bigger than beer? they say this is a story bigger than beer, about the american spirit. here is the thing, it is about your beer and you made a decision to promote your beer using someone not part of your demographic. your demographic is the all-american baseball tough guy and you're not stella atoit, or heinekken, you are american beer. when you say the higher ups did

not know, number one, is that true? is that credible? number two, should they have known? number two, i just learned this today, trying to pink wash, meaning pink wash and you refer to the lgbtq+ community in a positive way to promote your brand or product without real support and they call it queer equality illegal. i don't know what bud was doing, but made a big mistake. >> will: greg, why this backlash for bud? many products upset their customer base. this trans influencer has a deal with nike, as well right now, this is tense for bud. >> greg: a lot has do with slow news week.

i will accept an apology, even if it sucks. this shows what happens when the old guys rely too much on the creatives in their company to tell you what is hip. >> jeanine: interesting. >> greg: jim northon made this points, it is not about trans, it is about the feloners, any influencers would have been bad for bud. i think they were lazy, the company was lazy. we have things called influencers, let's use them and somebody should have said, wait a minute, that person was born in 2007, anybody that was born in 1990 that could tell me what was going on? this is not our brand. let bud get back to their lives. autoa good company, they should

have been more careful. it is over. by the way, clydesdale, i hear they are nonbinary, that is going too far. >> will: i think a line was crossed and doesn't have to do with trans, the american people don't like being forced to celebrate when someone says you better use my pronoun and bud wrapped their arms around that idea. >> dana: and at companies left-wing groups are pushing companies to do corporate company index and higher rating you will do better on stock market and that may be persuadable in the board room. guess we'll try it. i have yet vp of marketing to say, here is, marketing research we have and people that follow dylan mulvaney want to drink beer. they have to be credible and believable. do you think dylan mulvaney was

enjoying the bud light? >> jeanine: throwing back a cold one. >> dana: you can find influencers who do that, people in the pbr fit your market demographic. >> greg: get pbe br for pbr. >> jessica: greg is right, this was a blip. sometimes they get picked up and sometime they do not. every company has come to jesus minute like this and they are being cancelled, what do we do? sydney sweeney, face of a skincare brand that i love and use, was embroiled in a situation where we don't want her anymore, she has trump supporters, she posted a picture from her mother's birthday party.

guess what, she issin foo. people need to take a moment. i believe they didn't know this was going to be it and dylan mulvaney, there are definitely trans people that drink bud light. >> greg: katelyn jenner, i will drink her under the table. >> will: america's transportation is crumbling, mayor pets the biggest priority are the darn racist roads. th ♪ respiratory mier card is made for people like sam who make...? ...everyday products... ...designed smarter. like a smart coffee grinder - that orders fresh beans for you. oh, genius! for more breakthroughs like that... ...i need a breakthrough card... like ours! with 2.5% cash back on purchases of $5,000 or more... plus unlimited 2% cash back on all other purchases! and with greater spending potential,

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are racism the transportation secretary trying to satisfy the woke when asked about car accidents. >> there are a lot of reasons related to discrimination, related to the way the roads are designed and built, who has access to safe street design that has crosswalks and good lighting, who doesn't have that? that can drive disparity and we have responsibility to act on that. >> jeanine: you know, greg, i will not even ask about whether roads can be racist, i will save that for the next person. given the fact pete buttigieg struggled with black voters in 2020, is this way of trying to win him over and as transportation secretary, has he done anything? >> greg: it has to be, can only be taken sersly if you work with

one variable, race. the reason there are accidents and fatalities has to be race. there was a study i wrote about a couple years ago, they compared blacks were pulled over much higher rates in america than asians for speeding tickets. it your honor turned out there were more young black drivers in america than asian drivers, young people drive faster, get in the most accidents, often why twha have the most expensive experience premiums. guess who is careful in cars? young people. as far as road access and lighting, i mean, there is a chicken and egg thing going on when you talk about the food deserts. that is why minorities don't get nutrition and then you see looting and wow, whose fault is

this? stores don't want to be in neighborhoods anymore where people get treated like this, like in san francisco. >> jeanine: dana, why is pete focused on this, all the train derailments and airports, why this? >> dana: mayor pete is not on an island he reports to president biden and this is driven from the white house. who is in charge of department transportation at the white house? linda rice. this is priority for them. fine, list your priorities. you don't have secretary of education coming out with a bullhorn to cam plain every urban school district does not have children who can read and do math at grade level and they pass them on anyway. why do you have this problem? like the broken window theory of

crosswalks. they are not working? whose fault is that? local governments are to be responsible for that, they get federal money. then mayor pete, white house, mr. president, what are you going to do about it? what is targeted answer for any of this? i get back to the issue of education, i cannot believe that is not considered the number one five-alarm fire for this administration and anybody running for president right now? >> jeanine: what about car accidents in other parts of the world and other countries? would he say they are racist? >> will: great question, broaden the sample size and pool. i thought i wanted to come into this segment and have good time about racist roads. i want to say this, racism is real. this is a statement a lot of us who rightfully point to reason don't make enough. racism is a real issue in the united states of america, but i believe that idea is undercut more by people who attempt to

explain every disparate impact by one single variable and less by people who deny existence of racism if you water down concept to racist roads, you have lost a willing listener. racism is a problem, an individual problem, and lost ability to win through reason and persuasion, through this stupidity. >> jeanine: that's a great point. what do you think jessica, about this? >> jessica: it is more complicated than just one variable. it is a real variable he's talking about and history goes back to national highway act of 1956. there were changes in zoning laws, we came up with the idea blacks and whites should live together. they built highways through the cities and destroyed them. i-365 cuts through detroit and number of black communities are

cut off in the abyss on the other side of the highway without access to the same things whites have access to. we talked about this, as well, the difference in outcomes for communities of color when it comes to pollution. a study in 2021 about the air quality in communities of color and blacks worse than other minority groups and worse than whites suffer from air pollution due to construction done in places they -- >> greg: i'm curious, what cities -- we always are told how bad it was as if it never gets better. 1954 60 or 70 years ago and we look backward and act like sins of the 50s or sins now, why hasn't your party improved this? why is he talking about it now? what city is this happening in? it is a demo accuratic city?

what about lecturing us on language, taking money for the homeless and making it disappear? what are you doing? rather than telling everybody that we're racist? >> jessica: i did not say that. >> greg: i know, i meant you generally. >> jessica: don't, me is the only person sitting here and took extra care that did not fall into the trap saying this is racism, there are systemic challenges to black people that whites do not face because of where they live. what have democratic representatives done? they got the flint water crisis paid attention to, took too long. flint, not a big deal? huge deal. kids drinking lead infested water. i sat here when east palestine

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>> welcome back. is the trip included? pizza delivery man becoming unexpected hero after tripping an alleged car thief police were hunting down. police offering the delivery driver a job. and he still delivered the pizza. has anyone ever tripped someone? >> jeanine: yes. >> will: yes. have you done it from the side? i tripped from the back. swing and hit somebody's leg from the back. >> greg: still feeling guilty about it. >> jessica: did they know you did it? >> greg: sister johnson, i was the one that tripped you in third grade. >> jeanine: you went to catholic schools? >> greg: 12 years. >> dana: there was a guy running and guy running behind and he had this overwhelming desire to stop the guy and next day he

talked to the police and they said, let handle it. glad they offered him a job. >> jeanine: i would trip someone, too, if i was 6'8". >> jessica: have to run close to you. >> will: only thing better if you open your car door on somebody. >> jeanine: the guy on the bicycle. >> will: you see guy coming -- >> jessica: you have done that? >> will: no, ranking the best vigilante moves that would rank it. >> jessica: let's get out of here. "one more thing is next." ♪ ♪ hey, man. you could save hundreds for safe driving with liberty mutual. they customize your car insurance.

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this is georgina post waters. >> greg: middle name, please. >> dana: they are going to call her g.g. 6 pounds 3 ounces. 19 inches long and everybody is doing very well. congratulations. we are so excited for all of you. >> do you know what i love about the husband looking at jesse he looks like he has been through hell. he has a little beard and he has his glasses on. she did all the work, jesse. >> dana: how do you feel, named after you, huh? >> greg: i didn't expect it. i'm like surprised but jesse, if you are okay with it. g.g., that's what it is. and you know i will be there. >> judge jeanine: exclamation point. >> greg: jamey lissow, johnny joey jones, kat timpf and speaking of kat timpf, let's do. this greg's bookmobile.

hop into bookmobile tonight at midnight this book becomes available and anybody who has read this is going to tell you it's awesome. go to the chapter that rhymes with dip bag. let's get this thing to number one by tomorrow morning. get on there use any kind of social media platform. amazon. and and order the book and get it to number one. >> dana: i will tell you it's very, very good. >> jessica: funny. it's fantastic. jesse's baby is adorable. you heard of wild goose chases but how about a pet elm my police chase. the elm my went on the lamb leading police on a pursuit 23 miles. clocked enew 20 miles per hour before he was finally captured finally escaped from the enclosure hopping a 7-foot. the owner has since ra race raid it to 9 feet. >> >> my neighbors used to have flying turkeys.

>> greg: there is no turkeys that fly. did you ever see wkrp. >> dana: 20 seconds, will. >> will: check this out a video of a call hauler getting mowed down by a train. nobody was hurt. the dude had already crossed over the tracks. he doesn't know how big his hauler is. you left your tail on the track. >> you are responsible. >> that's it for us, "special report" is up next. i like the emu. thanks, dana. good evening. i'm bret baier, house speaker kevin mccarthy marks 100 days on the job. promises action on the debt ceiling with negotiation. we learn new details about the national guardsman largest intelligence leak in a decade. chaos in chicago. you may be shocked to hear what the incoming mayor has to say about the perpetrators. ♪ >> bret: good evening. i'm bret baier. the management district atrn