>> hello, everyone. this is "outnumbered." i'm emily compagno. here with my co-hosts kayleigh mcenany and harris faulkner. and also joining us today, "fox & friends" co-host ainsley and first legal advisor and author of "parents of the world unite" ian pryor.

welcome. your first time on the couch. >> i think it's my third time. post covid. >> emily: all right. we begin with mob madness breaking out on city streets across our country and innocent americans are getting caught in the crossfire. shocking new video from chicago on saturday night shows a large group of what appears to be young people closing in on a young woman trying to enter her apartment. and then they attack. we must warn you, what you're about to see is graphic. >> emily: this horrifying footage tagged with the caption "yea, we get active." and we're now learning new details on the aftermath of that gut wrenching attack.

that woman's mother confirming to fox news matt finn that her daughter is thankfully doing ok and escaped the mob with minor injuries. the scratch on her face. she says her daughter was with another young man during the time of the attack and was later helped to a hospital by a good samaritan after the completely unprovoked attack. ian, your thoughts? >> well, you know, i think when you look at our criminal justice system, the fundamentals are retribution, rehabilitation and deterrents. what you're seeing in democrat led cities across america, we're not going to worry about deterrents anymore and retribution. all we care about is rehabilitation. as a result, you get these soros backed prosecutors that aren't enforcing crimes and you create this incentive for people to go out and do these things. they know they're not going to be arrested and prosecuted. they're not afraid of those things. the people that live in these communities are the ones that are made to fear. it's unfortunate in chicago they

voted for more of the same policies when they elected a new mayor that looks like he'll be worse than lori lightfoot. >> emily: the thing that is worrisome is the notion about minor injuries. she's all fine. everything will go on as normal. when the trauma of being attacked by a mob, i can't overstate what i expect to be a lifetime of emotional injuries and trauma. and that's the deep seeded trauma as well that the communities, as ian brought up are dealing with as well. >> kayleigh: we saw that mob attack the gas station in compton in california and i just can't help but think how fearful i would be if a mob were coming toward me especially with our children. so it's very scary. it's happening in these big cities. and if we don't do something about this, there's no law and order. and that's why we see this. no one is held accountable. where are their parents, first of all? why are they out and about sometimes this is happening at 3:00 in the morning, 4:00 in the

morning and many of them look very young. you can see some of their faces. not all their faces are covered. law enforcement, i know they're under a lot of stress, i should say, why don't they go and find these individuals? there's no law and order right now which means all of our hopes and dreams, we can just kiss them all away. someone owns that gas station. someone owns the wal-mart or someone owns the macy's that's closing down. someone owns the bed, bath & beyond or best buy, they're all closing down because of theft. someone had to work really hard to stock the shelves of that mini-mart. alcohol was stolen. personal items were stolen. snacks were stolen. 100 people plus were packed in that one little convenience store there's the video and they run in and there's no accountability. someone had to pay for all of that! these are, you know, the bodega worker here in new york had to leave. he left. he moved back to his home country. >> emily: harris, something i wanted to bring up with you as well, this disturbing trend, this pattern where this is called a brag video.

so with that caption "yea, we get active" we've seen similar lockdowns. >> harris: brag video. not as in alvin bragg but it could be because this is what soft on crime policies will bring you. >> emily: to finish real quick, before i let you take the floor, just the notion that in the past, there have been a concentrated effort by law enforcement, active d.a.'s in cities to shut down videos like subway surfing where that resulted in a high incidence of youth decapitations and massive injuries. so they said all right, we'll take these videos immediately down. thank you, big tech, for helping with this effort. why are brag videos of horrible violence that have plagued our country and especially big cities, why are they allowed to thrive inspiring more youth? >> harris: the democrat guest that i had on who was a prosecutor and helped run the democratic party in d.c., scott bolden, and others have said that it's because they need room. they need space to be rehabilitated. as you said, that is -- that is the word that they're

concentrating on. we, as potential victims and as real crime victims are not chosen. that the people who are chosen in this scenario are the ones who are willing to take life. and make no mistake about it, when the gunfire rings out and three teenagers are shot, any one of those teenagers could be killed. anybody in that crowd could be killed. the onlookers who kind of back, back in the perimeter. but don't leave the scene because oh, my gosh, might be in the video. they don't leave and potentially could be killed in all of this. so while the crime may start out as graffiti or property destruction and as ainsley said, the ruining of small businesses and destruction of economic lives, so on and so forth, it could easily be life taking as well. and we don't talk about that. but you don't rehabilitate mobs of people who are willing to flex for the cameras. and you can take down all the videos you want. they're going to find a way to share that stuff. you would be amazed at what's out there that we haven't even tapped yet. sit with a teenager for a while.

it will give you a real education. >> emily: you and i have talked about the sort of infantization that the media's coverage about effect on youth. somehow making less of the violence of these crimes. somehow focusing on the fact that those are children rather than humans engaging in violent, horrific crimes and murders. and as well, that's correlated to sentencing. and we've seen in this bail justice reform laws or anything but justice again, that infantilization of these youth where there's zero accountability so the two teenagers that shot the commanders running back were sentenced until they were 21. guess what happened at their sentencing at court, they didn't show up. horrible in the licase where a brother shot his brother in the back. sentenced until he was 21. this seems to be a pattern and despite patterns of violence behind jail or any type of need for accountability, when judges say "my hands are tied" that's

frightening. >> kayleigh: right, this woman was violently attacked. you can imagine her fear. you can imagine that i would think that she wants consequences for those who attacked her and to your point, perhaps inflicted emotional damage for many years to come. but they call these "teen takeovers." i mean how innocuous does that sound? you have the current mayor lori lightfoot as we talked about yesterday, many teens were there to have a good time and enjoy the unseasonably warm weather. mayor johnson also say, you know, don't blame the teens essentially paraphrasing him there. let's be very clear what teenagers have the propensity to do. we remember the case of muhammad amwar, that uber eats driver, 13 and 15-year-old girl violently attacked him. he lost his life. and then they get a plea deal, and they will be out at the age of 21 years old. they killed someone, he is not coming back. he won't ever be there with his family. teens do have the propensity to

commit violence. we've seen that. and they deserve not just rehabilitation, retribution for their actions. i would end with this. mainstream media on this, cnn, zero minutes of coverage. abc, zero minutes, nbc, cbs, zero minutes of coverage. and yet, they all found an opportunity to cover the fact that love is blind had some technical difficulties from getting on to netflix, as newsbuster noted, preposterous. >> harris: priorities. >> emily: that's right. violence is violence. it doesn't matter who commits it and that kind of mob violence, we need to see it come to an end. >> ainsley: the solution is easy, it's easy. we need bail reforment we need more police officers not we don't need to defund police. we need to get back to law and order. >> emily: all right coming up guys, the homeland security secretary is facing tough questions on capitol hill about a disturbing new report on migrant children exploited under his watch. why the feds reportedly turned a blind eye even after they were warned about it. that's next.

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>> kayleigh: homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas is facing a lot of tough questions on capitol hill right now. many of them about a chilling new report on the border crisis and its impact on unaccompanied migrant children. "new york times" out with this new report revealing an alarming increase in migrant children forced to work brutal jobs in this country. and that the white house and federal agencies knew about it but they turned a blind eye. writing this, over the past two years, more than 250,000 migrant children have come alone to the united states. thousands of children have ended up in punishing jobs across the country working overnight in slaughter houses replacing roofs, operating machinery in

factories. all in violation of child labor laws. a recent "times" investigation showed. all along, there were signs of the explosive growth of this labor force and warnings that the biden administration ignored or missed it. the administration is pushing back on the reporting. "the times" writes h.h.s. officials said they vetted it responsibly but could not control what happened to children after they were released. officials at the labor department said inspectors had increased their focus on child labor and shared details with workers at h.h.s. but said it was not a welfare agency. white house officials said while the two departments had passed along information about migrant child labor, the reports were not flagged as urgent and did not make the scope of the problem here. lawmakers at today's hearing brought up the report. >> we have no idea who those people are, what kind of security they risk. you're not giving me any stats whatsoever in terms of the number of people that are human trafficked, how many young girls

are sex trafficked. you don't have a clue. you wouldn't even answer how many dead bodies which was very well documented at the border. do you not care? do you not have just an ounce of human compassion for what your open border policy, the type of human it's costing. you sit there with a blank look on your face. you're saying it's a priority. >> kayleigh: a quarter of a million children have comes, ainsley. let's talk about a little boy named antonio. he had to drop out of school and work at a refrigeration factory. these were the conditions. he was placed, by the way, with a sponsor in florida. no one ever checked up on him. he said he went days sometimes without having any contact with anyone. he said this or this is the summation of it. instead of continuing to ninth grade, antonio packed vegetables. he worked numbing shifts that left him chilled each night even though he wore the heaviest jacket he could afford. in the obscene part to me,

ainsley, is that the reports of this allegedly made it to his desk, cabinet secretary of senior white house officials were shown evidence of exploitation such as clusters of migrant children who had been found working with industrial equipment or caustic chemicals, they did nothing about it. >> ainsley: that's only one child. this is not act from linda brandmiller. if you have a chance to read the article, i highly recommend it. it's hard to read because we all love our children and can't imagine, as a mom, sending my little girl to another country by herself. some of these little kids on the side of the road holding a teddy bear crying asking for mom or dad. picking them up in the rio grande, in the water, swimming by themselves. it's really sad. and linda brandmiller had a heart for these children. she started working in the arena in san antonio that was converted to a shelter. her job was to vet these sponsors. one man came and said i need three boys to work at my

construction company. she contacted the government supervisors and said this is urgent in an e-mail. never heard back. another florida man wanted two kids and would have worked off, because they need to live with me to work out the cost it's worth being charged to bring them up from mexico or from guatemala and one of -- and he was one of the ones who got the 14-year-old boy that you were talking about. and she sent another e-mail, immediate attention. and then she was fired. she let her direct supervisor know in san antonio and she, her keycard or whatever was removed and she was fired from the job. >> harris: that's what you call stepping on a whistle blower. >> kayleigh: five h.h.s. officials fired, in fact. five. it's astonishing. ian, one thing that caught my attention in this article was not account about susan rice, big white house advisor. huge role in the administration. here's what it said. in 2021, as images of children sleeping under foil blankets and overflow centers dominated the news, susan rice, the white house's head of domestic policy told staff members she was frustrated with the situation, according to five people who

worked with her. miss rice vented in a note she scribbled on a memo detailing the position of advocates who believed a pandemic era border closure was compelling parents to send unaccompanied children called u.c.'s. this is b. s., miss rice wrote, according to a copy of the memo reviewed by "the times." what is leading to voluntary separation is our generosity. now, the white house denies this. but this is essentially, if true, her admitting that they've incentivized all of these problems. >> ian: they have. if you go back to the trump administration, look at what h.h.s. does, you know, h.h.s. is responsible for resettling children that come across the border in america. and you get all these people come in and they say they're family members. and you know, some of them may be family members. some of them may be involved in human trafficking and some are smugglers putting them in the work places. the trump administration was able to get the border under control so it was a disincentive for smugglers to really go through. but then the biden administration comes in and wipes all those policies out.

so what do you expect as you now have an incentive for smugglers and most of these kids are between 13 and 18 and can work. so you go there and maybe you say that, oh, i'm a parent. i'm a cousin. i'm an uncle but you're maybe not. and then they come in and get involved in all of these other activities and we have absolutely no way to track them. and that is what happened as a result of biden really erasing those very effective trump border policies. now we're dealing with this situation. >> kayleigh: we've covered on "outnumbered" the plight of migrant children. it's been reported cbs migrant children endure despair and isolation. reports of them eating raw, uncooked chicken. we've covered it here and the biden administration essentially turned a blind eye although a.o.c. had those tearful pictures at the border. >> harris: you know, what you said was really -- i don't want people to miss what you said. they could be somebody who is picking those kids up who are on a list. and they could also be people who are going to sex traffic them. so two things can be true. i mean, that's what's really sad about this. >> ian: absolutely. >> harris: senator blackburn of

tennessee first brought to our coverage over a year ago those surreptitious flights into her state. since then, she has been really on the case to figure out what happened to those children in particular because there were so many flights coming in in the middle of the night just in her state alone. but across the country, new jersey, my state, just landing at 2:00 with little ones this big getting off the plane. not attached to anybody who might be on the list. here is senator blackburn from last hour on "the focus." >> we know that health and human services office of refugee resettlement has completely lost track of 85,000 children that have come into this country. we know that you've got over 250,000 unaccompanied alien children. and they can't find 85,000 of them? you referenced the whistleblower and what we're hearing is that many of these children are going

to individuals who want to use them as child labor. this is something that has to stop! >> harris: has to stop. so how do you stop it? well, first of all, you got to go find 85,000 kids. and second of all, you've got to figure out what is happening at the border such that those children don't get special attention? i thought this was the administration that was going to be different. remember, oh, we don't put kids in cages. actually, that was obama so let's get the facts straight on that. but we're not going to separate, remember trump got so much grief and criticism about the separation of children. this administration said we're going to be different. well, they're not separating them. they're completely whole body, losing them. they're losing thousands of children who already were disadvantaged when they came. they already were up against it. they had been in the arms of cartels. who knows what their treks had been? and you're going to further

normalize abuse. normalize abuse, further their pain by putting them in, basically, slave conditions in this country. to labor at the hands of someone who picks them up. >> kayleigh: and a.o.c. found time to shed tears at the border during the trump era. where is she now? where is vice president kamala harris checking on these children? >> it's because you will of their crocodile tears is performative action and it leads to cruelty. i was thinking about as you describe the little ones being just abandoned, i'm picturing that image that we had here in fox news, the video of a child that was floating down the rio grande river. and that, to me, just represents the level of abandonment by this administration and the policies that led to the push factors abandoning that child in the river. i think about as well how part and parcel to this administration, it's all about the blame game. so we know that veteran staffers, senior officials, contractors, raise the alarm, as you described, making its way up

to h.h.s. what was h.h.s.'s response, no, that's a department of labor issue. we're not a welfare system. it reminds me of when adler said to that grieving mother's face, well, 50% of the killers were caught. there's a level of deflection and refusal of responsibility that this administration takes that is appalling and to use your word, it is obscene. but it won't end any time soon. >> kayleigh: who gets lost in this? antonio who goes to youth group and misses his grandmother. coming up, elon musk is mocking twitter's past ownership saying the platform was run like a glorified activist organization. more from his sitdown with tucker carlson next. okay everyone, our mission is complete balanced nutrition. together we provide nutrients to support immune, muscle, bone, and heart health. yaaay! woo hoo! ensure with 25 vitamins and minerals and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. ♪ hi, i'm william devane.

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defends his decision to slash staff and goes after the company's previous ownership for overseeing and overstaffed operations that were too focused on censoring the users. >> how do you run the company with only 20% of the staff? >> turns out you don't need all that many people to run twitter. >> but 80%? that's a lot. >> yes, over -- i mean, if you don't try to run some sort of glorified activist organization, don't care that much about censorship, you can really let go of a lot of people. >> harris: he dropped that so hard, i think it bounced. emily? >> emily: right, i think we were just talking off line a moment ago about whether or not that we are shocked, whether or not we are surprised with the government's access to our direct messages? and i think it's long been known that big tech, frankly is absolutely in bed with government. right now, the irony is we often talk about whether the genie can

be put back in the bottle. we've been calling for heightened regulations in the social media platforms for accountability for what's put on their platforms and amplified. i wonder whether it's too late for them to maintain accountability of how they are run. of whether the government interference, of whether the government surveillance, whether that will be taken up by the far left who has such issues with privacy and other regard like facial recognition on the town square. what about the proverbial town square when it comes to freedom of speech? when it comes to communication, when it comes to articulating concepts and beliefs that they might not find popular and keep in mind that these algorithms are created by and run by largely absolutely left woke absolutely liberal people. so keep in mind what is baked into these platforms that are seemingly innocuous and objective. anything but. >> harris: ian? >> ian: the biggest concern for me is when he said, you know, federal agencies are looking at your direct messages. they're looking at this. and it's not just the f.b.i., you know. it would be bad enough if it's the f.b.i. that's a fourth amendment issue.

who is else looking? is it the n.s.a.? >> harris: is it the d.o.j., your former employer? >> ian: if it's the f.b.i. it's definitely the d.o.j. i can tell you that. is it the c.i.a., is the c.i.a. spying on americans? go back 60 years, that would be on the front page of every newspaper for months. you would have your top investigative reporters on that. you would have special select congressional committees investigating this. now, you know, these big tech companies are really an agent of the government. and the press is an agent of the government as well. so you're not going to get that. i mean, look at what happened with the twitter hearings, right, the democrats were like there's nothing wrong here. >> harris: nobody likes you -- to hear you say that the press and the media are together. it's so interesting. >> it is. it's so interesting, just a few years ago, take yourself back in time. we used to have discussions about our information being

incidentally swept up in the process of monitoring non-u.s. citizens who are out of the country via fieza. there were all these safeguards and multilayered protections. carter page didn't get them but presumably we're entitled to them. but now, to know, not just the u.s. intelligence agencies but foreign intelligence agencies had access to our direct messages? this is astonishing and a huge first amendment violation and good for elon musk taking a financial hit to expose all of this. >> harris: the federal government is going to have to pay for some divorces if some of this stuff gets out. private messages are what they are, they call them d.m.'s, there's rap songs written about jumping into my d.m.'s. they're supposed to be difficult to get into! >> ainsley: that bothered me a lot because it's the government spying on us. if this isn't big brother, i don't know what is. you worked at the white house before elon bought twitter. who knows what d.m.'s they were reading of your staff which is very scary. right? i mean, we -- americans deserve

privacy. and, you know, this is a free country. we should have that. but we don't. something else that kind of made me shudder is when he talked about artificial intelligence and how it could be the destruction of civilization if we don't manage this well, if it's not put in responsible hands and he says that the co-founder of twitter, larry page, he said that he's not taking it seriously enough. you can't just give -- put this in the wrong hands and hope for the best. >> just a quick note of distinction, two frames of ideology in the states vs. europe, for example, you reminded me when you said that. in europe, the concept is the person owns their own data and the person owns their own private data. here the presumption is the platform does or public does. that's why it's so difficult for us to sort of surpass thate government feels so free to permeate that. >> harris: that's interesting. democrats spend a lot of time trying to live like europe. but not on that one! ok, there's so much more when you watch tucker sit down with elon musk. part two airs tonight at 8:00

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he claims the postal service violated the civil rights act making him choose between his livelihood and his christian faith. >> i actually told my postal supervisors i feel like you're boxing me into a corner and asking me to choose to do what you say. the postal supervisor or do what god says. and i said i mean no disrespect whatsoever. but i have to choose god. my conviction is that strong. come what may, you know. so if it means i lose my job, that's very sad. but it's not a choice for me. it's what i believe. >> harris, just wanted to go to church on sunday. >> harris: be bold with your faith. be unapologetic, that's what he's doing. good for him. you know what? he's more worried about salvation and what happens on the other side of this life. and that's exactly where we're supposed to be. so it's about peace. he's got it. his employers may not have it because they probably aren't used to being told no. but the answer is no. he chooses god. good for him.

>> kayleigh: good for him. this hearkens back to when the supreme court went grievously astray where essentially they were, i would argue, creating a religion of secularism. we have civil rights act protections from 1964. but a 1977 case, this is what this did to the rights of men and women of faith in this country. with this ruling, the courts shifted the law such that virtually any increased financial cost even a few hours of a manager's time spent sorting out scheduling changes can remove the employer's obligation to its religious employees. a boss can refuse permission for a sikh to tear -- wear a turban or for a jew for cooking in a micr microwave. each is in this case. >> emily: because of the civil rights act that an employer had to accommodate an employee's beliefs unless doing so would be an undue burden.

that supreme court case you mentioned they whittled it down but said it's a diminished cost, anything above that, that would be ok. that's why these horrific cases that you just outlined existed. thankfully, i have faith in this supreme court landscape and i think that they will restore this man's religious liberty. but the troubling thing is how many people didn't have the benefit of that? how many people suffered under the erosion of religious liberty here in this country from the past 40 years? so i have faith in this court's decision that he'll be able to, you know, prioritize his sovereign lord and his belief, sincerely held beliefs over the postal service lack of funding, frankly that resulted in them being in service while he was out on sundays. >> kayleigh: the number of cases filed with the eeoc, equal opportunity commission have doubled over the last decade. >> that law reads that employers must reasonably accommodate employees' sincerely held

religious practices unless it would impose an undue hardship to the employer. this is a very big company. it's the u.s. postal service. they can't find someone else to work on sundays? give me a break. he can work six other days. he feels like this is not what god is telling him to do. god is telling him to take the day off. you always have to listen to god. he's never going to disappoint you. good companies and good bosses make accommodations for really good workers within reason. he's just asking for one day a week off. i'm sure they can find someone else to work his shift. >> kayleigh: yeah, ian, it's amazing to me and really took amy coney barrett getting to the court that allows a man to kneel at the 50-yard line. marijuana dispensaries, you can be open during covid and casinos you can be open. guess what, churches you can't. and the supreme court upholding this. amy coney barrett gets on the court and all of a sudden it exists again as it pertains to practicing faith. >> ian: if you look at this, this is the postal service. for decades, for years, monday

through saturday, right, that's when you worked. that's when you delivered. the core function, delivering usps mail. now they get a contract with amazon on sunday. it's a small part of their business model to deliver packages on sunday. again, you mean to tell me you can't get somebody else to do it on sunday? that's part of the bargain. when you sign up to work at the postal service years ago, you knew you didn't have to work on sunday. but as far as the court, i mean, there's a lot of interesting cases that could get there. a recent case out of the seventh circuit unfortunately where a professor was -- they ruled against him because he wouldn't use the preferred pronouns of a student. now, in the sixth circuit, you have the opposite decision. so you've got a split in the circuit. hopefully, that's something that the supreme court takes up in the future and starts restoring some of these first amendment rights that, you know, have really eroded over the past several decades. >> all three of you are lawyers. wouldn't this be retaliation? >> ian: it certainly could be. i mean, i think that's one of the claims that he would have. >> he wasn't fired. he resigned. >> ian: constructive discharge.

>> so the basis of his allegations is discrimination. >> harris: constructive discharge. >> kayleigh: discrimination indeed. we are very excited to have ian with us today because he's out with a brand new book titled "parents of the world unite, how to save our schools from the left's radical agenda." ian, you are an authority on this issue. tell us about this. >> ian: this book really traces the fight in loudoun county which really didn't just impact the elections in virginia in 2021 but i would argue really started a national movement. and, you know, the story is about the parents involved and how, you know, different parents with different skill sets utilized those, unified as a team and really shined the spotlight of accountability of what's going on in our school system and what was going on in school systems across america. i would encourage people that are dealing with the same situation to go out and buy the book, take those lessons and come up with your own philosophies and strategies and supplement it. >> kayleigh: we heard all across the nation. >> you helped lead that fight. >> ian: thank you. >> kayleigh: that's right.

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>> new senate report pointing the finger at a laboratory as the source of covid. should china be held accountable? rand paul and mike johnson is here. charles payne gives us his fuel forecast. congressman james comer says six more members of the biden family likely benefited from hunter's overseas business dealings. we'll take that up with our political panel. and california soft on crime laws have one golden state district attorney saying things just have to change. we'll talk to him just ahead. i'm john roberts. come join us at the top of the hour for "america reports." >> harris: instead of fighting rising crime on new york city streets, democratic mayor eric adams is instead waging war on meat products. i'm hungry. mayor adams announced the new crackdown is part of his new carbon reduction plan.

is that like the inflation reduction plan? the big apple's latest step in the fight against climate change. the mayor says cutting meat products will push new yorkers towards a healthier diet, plant based diet. here it is. >> all food is not created equal. the vast majority of food that is contributing to our emission crises lies in meat and dairy products. plant power diet is better for your physical and mental health, and i am living proof of that. but the reality is that thanks to this new inventory, we're finding out it is better for the planet. >> harris: ok, you and i laughed at the same time. i'm not his personal doctor. how would i know if he's living proof of it or not? >> kayleigh: i suppose we're supposed to know by looking at him that like he's the king of health and we should all eat

like him. but what is this proclivity of new york city mayors going after people's food. you have bloomberg with the sodas and now this. crazy thing to me, now we're going to go after food because it affects the climate. rice, apparently, is one of the biggest offenders of climate change. >> harris: what are you going to do with the continent of asia? >> kayleigh: half the population relies on rice as a primary food. in the quest to end climate change, we'll eliminate the food. sounds right. >> harris: do you think you cook the plant based food without gas stove? maybe it's also attacking how we do it. ainsley? >> ainsley: i say get off my back and get out of my refrigerator and let the free market decide whether we want to eat meat or not. they're telling us it's tax day we're paying our taxes. we're always in our business. get off my back. don't tell me if i can drink a soda or if i can -- i have to use a plastic straw. or if i can or cannot eat meat. >> harris: gosh, i want cheese on that burger!

>> me, too, american cheese! >> ian: have you tried to give your kid a beyond burger? they don't like them! >> harris: that's why they call it impossible! your kid won't impossibly eat it. it's impossible. >> as a new yorker that lives here, what's so disheartening is my mayor is focusing on this in the subject when crime is rampant. >> and i agree. on the subject of food, 24 million pounds of garbage a day is generated by new yorkers. a third of that is food. it's food that is wasted. and we just learned in this past november that over 10% of new yorkers have food insecurity and food insufficientcy. when you include that home with children, that goes to 14%. i'm listening to the mayor saying we're not going to have steak anymore and convert to plants when 14% of people that live in this city are subject to food insecurity and a third of our waste, third of four million tons of garbage every year

generated by this dump of a city is good food, that's going to waste. that's what he needs to be focusing on in the food department. not whether i eat steak. >> harris: all of it revealed at its worst moments when we were in boxes on the air because everybody was in lockdown. those children who couldn't go to school whose only meals in this particular great state in america would go hungry and they had some programs where you could maybe go up to a back door of a facility and get your meal for that day. but that was only after we'd been in lockdown for a while and they had to deem it safe to go outside at some point. i mean, there are kids who were starving in the city. so i would imagine that 14%, emily, burgeoned far beyond that when we were in lockdown. it's an embarrassment. it really is. all right, again, i've said it. there are a lot of people who are hungry. more "outnumbered" in a moment.

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♪♪ >> last but not least, it is tax day. and if you've been dreading doing your taxes you are not alone. a new online survey reveals just how far americans will go to avoid the dreaded irs. 14% said they would name their child taxes to claim their taxes as a dependent and another 10% said they would rather clean prison toilets for three years for a tax-free future. i would rather slide down a razor blade banister into a vast of lemon juice than what i consider the worst of humanity, the irs. >> i think we all know prepping for that is just months and months and months and months of paperwork that it's there, but it's like a turned on stove, i guess will be illegal at some

point, those stoves. like the turned on stove, did i leave something on at home, always in the back of your mind for months and you know, fortunately today we make sure the stove is turned off, i guess. for a little while. hope the 87,000 is trimmed. >> are we going to feel the 87,000 extra employees, coming to my house to make a burger? i'm still wanting meat. >> conservatives -- >> one-track brain. >> i never thought i would want to communicate with the irs, but i would rather communicate with the irs than clean prison toilets. sign me up with communication with the irs. april 18th. >> i will put on the glove and clean the toilets. >> we had to do it since i was a little kid. naming your child x taez, maybe a middle name, your child will never see. >> ainsley taxes.

>> back to food. >> maybe teeny tiny, if i never had to do taxes again. i would not tell a soul, but -- might be worth it. >> i'm sure the founding fathers had the exact same conversation when they talked about taxation without representation. don't forget to dvr the show if you can't watch us live. now, here is "america reports." >> my informed assessment as a person with as much access as anyone to our government's intelligence during the initial year of the pandemic has been and continues to be that a lab leak is the only explanation credibly supported by our intelligence, by science, and by common sense. >> covid was not immaculate infection, not spontaneously generated, it came from somewhere and the details matter. >> john: fox news alert, former director of national intelligence testifying he believes the lab lea