♪ >> i think there were some extra drums. this is "outnumbered." i am har is faulkner. joining us today, fox news contributor leslie mar marshall, and contributor raymond aroar i don't see. it will be a rocking hour. start with this. the house passed a

controversial new bill and party line vote which could fundamentally reshape the way public institutions deal with transgender athletes in sports. the protection of women and girls in sports act aims to amend title 9 definition of gender, making the criteria based solely on a person's biological sex at the time of birth. that new definition would effectiv bar transgender women from come beating in ufrnts across america. while it is a win for female athletes, the white house says it will be dead on arrival. if it hits the president's desk, he will sri tow it. at a time transgender youth face a nationwide mental health crisis, a national law that further stigmatizes these children is completely unnecessary.

hurts families and students and only puts students at greater risk. the president presented with hr734 said he would veto it. house speaker kevin mccarthy speaking on the bill's passing on the capitol steps moments ago. >> there's a reason title 9 was created, there's a reason there are men's and women's sports. there's a reason why there's a professional basketball for men and women. it is about fairness. if there's one final fiber of america, it is about giving people an opportunity. >> and again, that was moments ago. we just had on in focus former ncaa swimming superstar riley gaines, recalling her time competing against leah thomas. watch this. >> that first day of competition was the 500 freestyle. this was not an event i did. i sat on the side of the pool and watched as leah

thomas won beating out olympians, american record holders. the most impressive female swimmers the country has seen by body lengths. this one swimmer beat every other swimmer in the country by seconds. >> kayleigh, born william thomas, leah katherine had a season in which leah thomas competed on the men's team. that's where leah thomas was. rank 554th in the 200 freestyle, 65th in the 500 freestyle. not competitive in the men's races at all, switch over to the women's, and it was a completely different story that you just heard riley talk about. >> biological men and biological women are different. that is a fact. that is the science which the left loves to hail when it is -- it was a powerful interview you had, harris. when i think of topics

like this, i didn't play college sports, these women did, to hear from her in this moment was powerful. to that point rather than me giving my opinion, my sister was a d1 athlete, ran track and field at the university of florida, 100 meter hurdles, she played untold times, skipped spring break, forego much of the college experience, wrote this op-ed in "the daily caller yesterday." she said there's no feeling like stepping on the track or stadium for the first division 1 competition, it is the moment you worked hard for and dreamed of, blood, sweat and tears go into training, it all becomes worth it when you get to put on your college uniform at your school. those with gender dysphoria should be treated at dignity and respect not at the cost of fairness of women's sports, reforms that but biological afemales at a

clear disadvantage. that's what it comes tdown to, the science. >> riley called it betrayal. when she got ready to step up on the podium, they said it was a tie and they took that trophy away from her. ncaa division 1 swimming. it is tough. >> harris, i don't have to tell you, women have only been competing in this manner since the 1920s. title 9 was created to protect a level playing field. >> so what has changed? >> what has changed is we are allowing subtractions and additions, no pun intended. what changed is people decided because we have trans athletes, their recognition of who they are should trump biology and the long time commitment to the girls that have been in the pool, on the track since 3 and 4 years old. i'm sorry, a biological male with a bigger heart, bigger lungs, more muscle

mass, greater ability to recover, he is naturally going to outrun, outpace a woman in that same field. we shouldn't create this disadvantage. i'm sorry. it is wrong to our girls. it would be like a children's competition allowing adults in. it is unfair. then don't have that competition, say you don't want to have that competition as a government then. >> so on the left, to tinker with title 9 in a way that honestly wipes away women in this sense, to erase women, that's what people on the left are talking about. and i don't understand why there can't be separate but equal for transgender. if they were real, actual women, we wouldn't call them transgender women. and by the way, if you or i decided to go the other direction, if you take testosterone, try to compete in ncaa sports, you can't do that. that's not allowed. that's considered to help us in our recovery.

we're not allowed to do that. it is not an even playing field. how do you approach it? >> i have to tell you, this is an area i am torn, i will be very honest. i can see both sides and it sounds like i am on the fence and one foot in each side, mother of two teenagers. my daughter does track, high jump, she will be mad i mentioned it on television. >> she's very talented. be proud. >> i am proud of her. i don't know how i would feel if there were a biological boy who was trans competing in that. being very honest. at the same time, i'm uncomfortable with this discriminatory aspect. whether it is a state like florida, don't say gay or other places, other places there's so much legislation going on, attacking trans youth, living in southern california. >> let me pause. how does this attack, when she talked about male

genitalia hanging out in the middle of a women's locker room, how is that attacking trans youth. i want to try to understand. if your daughter were put in that position, what would you tell her? >> have to be put in that position. that's what i said. i am torn. >> it could be coming if your child is under the age of 18. >> to answer the question, the real i feel it is discriminatory, i think we would all agree whether democrats or republicans, independents or pieces of each, this is not the most pressing issue in our nation. this is not -- >> wait a minute. wait a minute. you don't punt and dodge. >> i'm not. >> joe biden changed the statute to protect women athletes. >> but i don't feel that government should be involved. i don't think it should be federal or state, it should be the individual sports organizations that make these rules. >> there you go. >> but i am torn between i

feel the attacks on trans and on the other side as a parent of a female athlete. >> emily, the left brought in, if you don't agree with them on this issue, the left brought in it is to protect the psychological mental health issues that are popping with trans athletes. so the government definitely thinks it is an important issue. it thinks the transathlete's mental health is more important than women and girls' mental health. >> the discussion about protection, i notice you used the word discriminatory application, you said discriminatory. i think that's what protection is being construed as, not protection of mental health of the trans youth but protection of the biological women in the sport. to me, the fact that that's undeniable biologically makes the rest of the conversation confusing. you can protect trans youth mental health, from laws and discrimination in society

while preserving sanctity of women biologically in sport. you recognize with the added level of hormones and muscle capacity and heart and lungs and all of that, that that lends to a predictable verifiable unwaiver rabl results that that no place in the protection of race. think about who is talking and who is not. we have two figures, for example, of women, espn, sage steele, sam ponder. you mention what's happening to title 9. sam said it is a shame we have to fight for integrity of title 9 in 2023 and the reason it was needed in the first place. contrast with democratic reps that say it is about bullying children and that the debate of this is traumatizing these children right now. so it is view that the democrats are holding to be sure the rest of america gets on board, we need to protect our children ignoring the science and the fact that these are young women and

men who are competing at a level for collegiate athletics and scholarship. so along the conversation we have, those are important points. >> it is interesting. listening to both of you at the bottom line, i would say this, leslie. if there are ways to protect the mental health of transgender athletes, because no one can deny the bullying, you can't. it happens to them. there's got to be a way to put them in sports which is equal to everybody. i would think they would want to compete on an equal playing field as well. a big topic. progressive congresswoman eye a poll facing backlash on social media after making stunning comments about immigrants. >> this country needs immigrants to survive, immigrants pick the food we eat, power the small business economy, clean our homes. veteran homeowners, it's time to fight inflation. use the three p's: plan ahead

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>> congresswoman jayapal is facing backlash for comments that seem to be sisttereo typing. judge for yourself. >> this country needs immigrants to survive. immigrants pick the food we eat, rebuild communities after climate disasters, help construct infrastructure, power our small business economy, clean our homes and look after the most precious in our families, our children and our elders. >> the irony, raymond, she went on to say let's take a minute to recognize the hypocrisy. i think coming out of her mouth was a heightened level of hypocrisy. >> you're only there for

what you can provide me with, taking care of my kids, picking my crops. no. immigrants come to this country to remind americans why this dream matters, and as the son of an immigrant i can tell you they feed us, they elevate us, and they remind us why america is what she promises to be. this is incredibly redundant, it is nasty. put it puts immigrants, they're like visiting slaves in the minds of some people rather than future americans, future citizens who remind us why we're so great, why everybody wants to come here. >> but the left has done this because the processing has been go around every checkpoint, crawl through every open fence, allow all these things to happen, lose 85,000 migrant children and mayorkas still hasn't answered for that after a hearing. all of it feels like an in dentured you are rant thing allowed by the left. >> speaking of coming

across the southern border, republican flores was responding and says it is the same casual condescending racism from the left that i experienced as the first mexican born congresswoman. they see immigrants as laborers who should focus only on making life easier for the liberal elite rather than people that respect the law and want to live the american dream like the immigrants in my family, my dad and grandparents and the like. >> immigrant child as well. we all are at one point, right? look, i didn't like what she said but the reality is, and i live in southern california, we have the largest amount of immigrants, documented and undocumented, not just in our state but in southern california, and the numbers are there. and both democrats and republicans have undocumented laborers cutting their grass, taking care of their children, cleaning their homes, working in the agricultural belt in

california, and the reason is these are areas that are not regulated. these are areas people are underpaid. these are areas where people don't want the jobs. an example of that is in the agricultural belt of california, there are employers who said we need laborers, we need laborers. the only people that showed up were undocumented people because they wanted the work and wanted to do the work. i don't think saying the stereotype is right. she should have been specific with those areas of labor that there are so many undocumented immigrants, undocumented migrants doing that work and willing to do that work, but all of us are immigrants and every job you have, whether you're a doctor, lawyer, or you are working agricultural industry picking our lettuce, all these people are immigrants. some came through the front door, some through the back. >> to me the exploitation of the cheap labor structure in this country which is horrific is not the same thing as reducing

immigrants to that position. that's why in australia where they don't have cheap labor to the same degree we do, things are more expensive because there is not the dim inauguration of human labor to that regard. that's true unrelated, kayleigh, from reducing the immigrant population to only having those positions because in my experience and existence immigrants have been my law school professors, my physicians and the like. however, as former speaker of the house nancy pelosi says, it is rampant through the democrat parties i say, as she said back in september, i will let her speak for herself. >> the best thing that we can do for our economy is to have comprehensive immigration reform. we have a shortage of workers in our country and you see even in florida some of the farmers and the growers say why are you shipping these immigrants up north. we need them to pick the crops down here. >> yeah. i am glad you played that

because when i read the progressive congresswoman from washington state's comments, i immediately thought of pelosi's comments. i don't know any florida growers saying this, i know of progressive congresswomen from washington state saying this. it is a repeated talking point from the hype of the democratic party. don't just listen to their words, look at their actions. they do not visit the borders, go to intake facilities where young girls have to use the restroom in plastic bags. they don't listen to whistle-blower reports that make it to the desk of bashara, where they're placed in home, forced to work in refrigerator factories even a coat won't keep antonio warm as we talked about two days ago. look at their actions. they don't care about illegal immigrants, if you do care, you listen to the whistle-blowers, don't fire them. >> the irony following that conversation from the talking points of the left, talk about equal pay, gender disparity in

the labor force, ignoring, however, all the child laborers that come to light, and the labor source that's often times illegal on the state and federal level that exploits these illegal immigrants. >> absolutely. i don't call them child laborers, they're slaves. some of those children are trying to pay for their journey from whoever took them in. we don't vet those people, it is not an emergency to figure out where they're placed. when w85,000 are displaced, the numbers are much higher. jayapal, they're not looking for solutions. they would know the details leslie knows, where these things are the only options. maybe you go to the vice president's home state where they have a wall and try to deal with some of these things, regulate some of those, the left loves to regulate things,

they don't want to regulate this. it fits their idea of an economy that's working. >> that's right. my grand father when he immigrated to this country, plucked chickens and went on to be a successful entrepreneur. his children, army veteran physicians, according to jayapal, you should have just had chickens. >> the lawmakers that pushed gun control in days following the horrific shooting at a christian school. the victims and their families still have not gotten an invitation. more on that next.

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of those lost in the covenant school shooting. it is shocking. nor has he invited nashville officers whose heroic action stopped the shooter from claiming more innocent lives. fox news peter doocy pressed the white house on this yesterday. >> so monday you'll have three of the lawmakers who protested. >> peacefully protested. >> peacefully protested after the nashville shooting. have any of the rumsfeld or victim families been invited? >> i don't have anything to read out on the invite. >> why? >> i don't have anything to give you on the invite. the president is focused on getting things done. we cannot have weapons of war on our streets or in our schools, so that's why he is bringing them there. he is bringing them here to continue that conversation. >> leslie, zero empathy,

zero compassion, zero any of that, just i don't have anything for you on an invite for victims' families, three of whom were nine years old. >> first of all, if we have the president invite every single victim's family with the number of mass shootings we've had, that's all the president and white house would be doing. >> let me stop you there. i will let you continue. he had time to invite these people. put up the video, the tiktok influencers, made time for them ahead of midterm election, so he had time for them. >> a couple of things. first of all, do i think he should reach out to possibly visit, again, you have a time issue, you know that in your former position, to the parents of the victims, yes. one, i buried a child, i can tell you not from a shooting, i'm not going anywhere after that happened. i need to hide in my house and crawl into my hole of grief and get right with my god and to be able to

move on and move forward, so i think they need some time, a lot of time to heal if they can ever fully heal, and president biden knows that first hand. he has lost two children himself, not from gun violence but knows this firsthand. i feel these are two very different things. these are legislators on gun control, an issue the president feels strongly about, democrats feel strongly about, an issue as president he has responsibility to try and do something about, to try to protect our children in these schools. >> if he wanted to do something immediately, instead of saying i won't sign marsha blackburn legislation that puts armed guards at every school if they wanted them, instead of writing it off, he would entertain that. it is bigger than an invite. and i want to acknowledge your loss and my heart breaks for you as a mother, but harris, beyond the invite, not saying the word christian, using the word fight in the transgender language from

the podium, it is a package of politicizing what should be a tragedy when we wrap our arms around these families. >> what i hope this is not is picking winners and losers as far as victims' families are concerned. you know, there was a young black boy who was shot by his 80 some-year-old neighbor, went to the wrong house. the president immediately called that family. we are praying he will be okay. shot in the head. >> he seems fine, is recovering. >> we are hoping so. but yes. it was not fatal at the time. but that case is going on. it would be prudent for the president not to get involved in a legal case that he thinks he cares about by weighing in, but he is. he already reached out to the family, wants to have them to the white house, once the young boy can get up and move around, 16-year-old, blah blah blah, but he doesn't do it as leslie said in every case.

but there's consistency when he does do it. and the issue of race is something that this president is willing to wade into. and he's proven that. but not all black lives matter to him. not the dozens who were shot last weekend alone, those who were killed in the city of chicago, most of those black on black crime. he is not the first to show this insensitivity and inconsistency, we have seen it, we saw it from obama. but the point is, if you're going to be consistent, do one or none. or send out a letter. i never worked in the white house like you have. there has to be time to do some sort of outreach because this president doesn't. but before we go on, i did not know that. and i have known you a long time. i am so sorry. >> thank you. it wasn't from a shooting. but thank you. >> i am so sorry, leslie. ray raymond, there's a question, i am going to ask it today, tomorrow, every day until we get the answer. where is the manifesto.

it is inexcusable we don't have it. elon musk put up a tweet, where's the manifesto, the unabomber got his published. >> we have been asking this, laura has been asking for weeks. here's my problem. i think harris has nailed it. this is putting racial politics ahead of human decency, and i'm sorry. i don't care. when you have a national story, a national grief like they're enduring in nashville, little babies shot indiscriminately, least you can do is pick up the phone. it feels very callous not to do that when you have time to call other people, and worse, send your vice president to grandstand bull horn culture, a democracy that looks more like chaos and throwing rules and etiquette out the window in the name of some racial political gain. i'm sorry. it doesn't wash with me. it feels callous. it is wrong. as a man who promised to bring us together and a fellow catholic, least he

could do is pick up the phone and pray for those people. i'm sorry. it broke my heart he didn't do that. now we're having this parade of the tennessee three. put the politics aside, deal with the grieving, help those people through their grief, get them answers and justice, then have your political points and political parties. >> lee, you and i were talking yesterday, i think you made the key point when karine jean-pierre was asked this question, she could have shown empathy, said my heart grieves for these families, we didn't get that. >> condolences, prayers, empathy is free. you talk about finite minutes of the day that the commander in chief has on his packed schedule, when we talk about what there's time for, talk about what's appropriate, it is always appropriate to show empathy, to express condolences and solidarity and heartbreak alongside lost lives of children in this country, of christians of any denomination. it is so obvious to me the president is anything but with karine jean-pierre as his messenger.

it is so troublesome to feel i would be excluded if something happened to me because i am a certain faith, because i am a certain race. that's how i feel with the comments coming out of their mouth, with the actions and decisions. kay land gill is lost her life in a similar situation arguably which is a mistaken home, her friend pulled in the wrong driveway. why can't we see and hear from our commander in chief, from the president of every american that his heart breaks on behalf of everyone. to me, you said it appears so kol us, to me it is so manufactured. there's no situation that isn't a pr opportunity that this white house doesn't jump on and it has gotten so old. i can't imagine two more years of this. >> something as simple as a tweet. takes five seconds to put together. would go a long way. coming up, don lemon goes off in a debate over race and equality next.

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>> gop presidential candidate got in a heated exchange with cnn's don lemon on gun race for black americans. watch. >> the funny fact is black people did not get to enjoy the other freedoms until their second amendment rights were secured. that's one of the lessons we learned. >> lot still aren't allowed to enjoy the freedoms. >> i disagree you. you're doing a disservice to our country failing to recognize the fact that we have -- >> you live in this country, you can disagree with me, but you're not. >> i agree. >> i want to be able to talk about these issues, regardless of the color of our skin. the part that i find insulting, you say black americans don't have those rights after we went through a civil rights revolution. >> you are telling an

african american about the rights and what you find insulting, about the way i live, the skin i live in every day. and the freedoms black and white have. >> here's where you and i have a different point of view. i think we should be able to express views regardless of the color of our skin. >> it is insulting that you sit here, whatever ethnicity you are, splaining to me what it is like to be black in america. i'm sorry. >> i am an indian american, i am proud of it. we should have this black, white, doesn't matter on the content of the ideas. >> did she take out her cell phone? >> at one point, poppy looked like she was filling out the form to transfer to cnn tonight, she wants off this. then checking the phone, playing candy crush, i don't know what she's doing. you can tell reality by watching the atmospherics on the edge. poppy harlow sees the rudeness, the crudeness of don lemon. not only did he disrespect his guest, he also

disrespected his co-host by not shutting up. he ran right over her segment. she said next time i would like to talk to you about china, he said next time, next time. that kind of grand standing shouldn't be allowed. it is rude, crude, and horrible to women. >> also disrespects the audience. i mean, here we are, outside the glass, going wait, what is she doing, i'm not even listening to them any more. vivek is trying to take the high road, say let's talk about issues irrespective what we look like in the mirror, home girl has her phone out, it is like a snickers commercial. can i get out of here, anybody got a snack. it disrespects the audience. no one gets anything out of that. it is a typical don lemon moment, squeezed all the life out of that lemon. >> my favorite part if i could quickly say, him basically saying for vivek to have a commentary he had to be a certain race.

i don't think don lemon is a mommy, he talks about mommy brain. i don't think don lemon is a woman, talks about women not being in their prime. don, look in the mirror, you're not a mom, a woman. >> did i notice richard engel's color, i am a white person. i don't know what it is like to walk in the scan of a person of color but i do have tons of friends from all different races and ethnic backgrounds. and i had this conversation and they would say african american, my friends that are african american have said we have equal rights but we don't feel equally treated. that's a big conversation. on the other side regardless of our skin color this is exactly what we need to do, not that, to have this conversation. it is uncomfortable but it is long overdue in my opinion in this nation. and you have to be able to have this conversation even if you don't have

that experience. >> this was a historically point about when anti-gun laws kicked in, trying to keep guns out of black hands. that was the point vivek was trying to make and don lemon didn't want to have. it really wasn't about race, he made it about race. >> what kayleigh said is important, representation of course is critical, right, but you don't have to look exactly like the person you're talking to to find not who's right but what's the right thing to do in that moment. we can negotiate with one another about what things would be best without having to be mirrors for one another. in fact, some of the best ideas may come from those that never walked in your shoes and they see your value and your merits from a different perspective and come up with all sorts of ideas you might not even think of. don lemon is not interested in getting to what's right, he only wants to be right. >> it was a per perfect illustration how the left views everyone

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>> welcome back. climate change is now nearly bringing members of the biden administration to tears. i'm not kidding. just watch. the secretary of the interior begins to choke up and cry while talking about the president's green agenda. she's just so touched. she said it's time the crisis of our lifetime gets some attention. watch this. >> i really do have to say that all of this is because climate change is the crisis of our lifetime. we have an obligation to future generations to make sure that we have a planet for them to live on, and that's why i'm here and that's why i'm working incredibly hard to make sure we can realize that transition, that we can have differing energy sources. we can't continue to be a one industry country. >> you know what i have to say, leslie, i believe her. like her heart is in it. like i don't have a doubt

about that. what's really sad is that she's being mislead by things like the inflation reduction act, all that money going to climate, not talking about transition and real ways to go from don't take my gas stove, make me drive something i don't want to drive to let's usury sources that we have and lead the world getting to the next few things that become all of the answers, not just one in electricity. it is sad. there are ways to keep her from crying. >> i like the fact that she's passionate, emotional. i know people definitely like to pick on women when we're emotional. say we are too emotional anyway. other people say you should never cry in your profession, but i would agree with you. i believe she really, really cares about her job and really cares about climate change and really cares about this planet and what we are leaving for our kids for the future. look, there's legislation that isn't even on the table yet that would help

with regard to climate change and help make her job easier and i have to disagree with you that some increments that get funding that way aren't helpful. >> okay. we will agree to disagree. just don't cry. >> i have to be honest, i find this a bit bizarre. i can think of any variety of news items this week to cry over, children shot going to the wrong address, the shooting in kentucky from last week. president obama shed tears over newtown, absolutely, i can think of those tears and see those. but climate change, targeting rice, the number one food source for half the country. let's starve everyone and cry over climate change. >> it is also the presumption that my little time on the planet can save the planet. this is madness. climate changes, but if we're going to transition to a new way of travel or new way of living, the fact is the electric grid is not powered by elves and fairies, it is powered by gas, coal, and oil.

and i'm sorry. unless you find some alternative, we have to go with what we have. you can't starve people because the interior secretary is crying. i'm sorry. it doesn't make sense to me. >> i think the issue for me is not that she's a female who is emotional, it is that she's emotional without having common sense. i always respect passion, but passion lacking common sense in an appointed position where my tax dollars bay for is an abomination. remember when she failed to answer basic questions at a hearing, end of the year last year when asked is it your policy critical minerals should be sourced from countries that are stewards of the environment like the u.s. or our allies, not china or russia. she responded up, no. it was distributed by the united states and department of interior, report of critical minerals from last december, she said no. this is someone that has

as her religion climate change, and failing to approach it saying giving me common sense options. abandon nuclear energy. let me engage in not performing activism, i agree with you that she means it, but i need substance. i don't need emotion, i need common sense, and an elected official that reads the reports. >> there's a thing happening on the left we have been watching awhile, emotions being used in place of science, covid, facts. i don't know if they realize people that feel the most about it, we don't doubt her feelings, are being manipulated. >> totally manipulated. as we enrich china, they have the lithium reserves, copper reserves, enrich china, marginal co2 gains that will be wiped out by china. >> she was asked are you aware china is the largest emissions distributor. she said i think i read that somewhere. that's what we are dealing with. >> problem. >> that makes me want to cry. >> more "outnumbered" in a moment.

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i say, “so are they.” just one aleve. 12 hours of uninterrupted pain relief. aleve who do you take it for? >> today marks 24 years since the tragic shooting at columbine high school. 12 students and a teacher were killed. we all remember it. rachel joy scott was among the victims, and her father created rachel's challenge. it addresses the root causes of violence and self-harm, they have averted eight school shootings and suicides. her final entry, compassion is the greatest form of love humans have to offer. if one person can go out of their way to show reaction,

people will never know how far kindness can go, on may 2nd, 1998, this will be my last year, lord, have gotten what i can. she lost her life less than a year later, she traced her heft land and said one day my hands will touch the world. you have changed mine. thanks to everyone. "america reports." >> really dangerous. maga republican congressmen threatening to default on the national debt unless i agree to the whacko notion they have. default, it would be worse than totally irresponsible. clear to speaker mccarthy how we should proceed to settle our differences. no one should jeopardize the full faith and credit of the united states of america. >> john: president biden wrapping up rhetoric against kevin mccarthy proposal, claiming they are not looking out for american's interests