>> we have been able to facilitate americans folded into some of the convoys, we will continue to do that and provide the best possible advice to anyone asking for our assistance about conditions about safety. >> john: americans stranded in sudan and hoping for a rescue, instead getting little from the biden administration except the best possible advice. antony blinken explaining it's too dangerous to evacuate

american citizens from the war zone. why are other nations right now successfully evacuating their own citizens by the hundreds. >> sandra: one of the major questions as the pentagon readies for a briefing. picture is up, podium is there, we are waiting for the briefing, and take the news off the top. navy seals pulling off an evacuation of the embassy workers and families but hundreds of americans are still there at this hour as the deadly fighting gets closer and closer. >> john: we will see if the pentagon has a message today for those folks. welcome back as "america reports" rolls into a second hour. i'm john roberts in washington. starting off a new week, sandra. >> sandra: right on into it, john. a lot of people think of war the moment they hear sudan but bloody battles in the past have never been like this. all right, so you are looking live in sudan, thousands of

americans have been left behind and this makes the pentagon briefing that we are waiting any moment now key, john, as we await the news out of that. the americans left behind are hunkered down there, many with their families, hoping for any way out. so, we'll see what reporters have to ask in that room about the urgency of this moment a few moments from now. >> john: and congressman byron donalds is going to join us on the biden administration handling of yet another global crisis. stay tuned for that. but a busy afternoon at the white house, president biden about to take the podium to honor america's top teachers, but the other event on his schedule is creating some controversy. >> sandra: and the meeting between the president and the three tennessee lawmakers who led gun control protests following the horrific school shooting in nashville but has not invited any of the families of the three students and three staff members who were killed. >> john: this comes hours before the president is expected to officially announce his bid for

a second term. a move that a majority of americans don't seem to think is such a good idea for the 80-year-old president. complete coverage now, political panel just moments away on the 2024 race. >> sandra: right to the white house north lawn, we find peter doocy. hello to you. how is the white house right now setting the table for this big announcement that is expected? >> they're not, if you believe that, sandra. they just wrapped up a white house briefing, most of the time was consumed with the national security adviser jake sullivan talking sudan, karine jean-pierre came out a few minutes at the end, questions on the debt ceiling and abortion pill ruling, nothing about 2024, and this rumored video announcement that is supposed to come tomorrow morning. the quiet about this possible re-election go comes as this new poll shows you just had it, 70% of people don't want the president to run again, and of them, age is a huge factor.

for 48%, it's a major reason. for 21% minor reason and it's on the "new york times" editorial board, writing if he runs again, mr. biden will need to provide reassurance to voters, many have seen family members decline rapidly in their 80s. americans are watching what mr. biden says and does just as he is asked them to do. biden's team says he's got a lot to show for his first term, helping ukraine, expanding access to covid shots, adding jobs back but all overshadowed by the number one reason biden backers think he needs another term. just that he's not trump. >> he is going to have an incredibly strong record to run on and steady hand when you look at what's out there right now with donald trump and what we are hearing again. people don't want that chaos back again. >> so the poll numbers are tough for the president, but the

number that may weigh the heaviest on the biden team right now is 80, his age. sandra. >> sandra: all right, as we await another briefing this time at the pentagon, peter doocy at the white house, thank you. john. >> john: sandra, bring in juan williams, fox news senior analyst and david avella. start with you, the announcement is expected tomorrow. the new poll does not have such good news for president biden, when asked if biden should run again, 70% of all people said no. 26% said yes. 69% of people who don't think you should run cite age as a reason and among democrats, 52% of democrats said that he shouldn't run again. those are not exactly the numbers that you want to use to under pin your re-elect announcement. >> no, but the thing is,

remember what he often says, don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative and when democratic voters look, what they see is there is former president trump leading on the republican side and for lots of democrats who may even disapprove of president biden, when he's contrasted with former president trump they say oh, i'll vote for him. and the second thing to say, he has to turn around the age issue. you are on target. it's a major concern, especially for a lot of younger democrats, and so his -- the way that his political strategists can think about this to say listen, he may be older but we need an older, steady hand at a time of such polarization and turbulence in american politics and they could cite ronald reagan and he was up there and making fun of him, what did he do? he in fact played into it and said hey, you know what, slow and steady and capable is me.

and i'm the guy. >> john: also famously said i'm not going to let my opponent's youth and inexperience get in the way. reagan was 69 when first elected, so 74 the oath of office for a second time. biden will be 82. but donald trump would be 79 and he has similar numbers in the nbc news poll as biden did whether or not he should run again, 60% said no, he shouldn't run, 35% said yes. 65% of people who don't think he should run cited the charges against him. so, they both have albatrosses around their neck. >> they have challenges they have to overcome. the good news is for both of them voters only get to choose the candidates that are on the ballot, not the folks they think should or should not be on the ballot. that's the good news. now the bad news for biden is we are seeing 1968 all over again. you have a robert kennedy challenging an incumbent president for the nomination.

we are going back to chicago, the democrats are, for their convention, where the wooly riots were in 1968. >> john: grease up the statue again. >> joe biden has to show america he's going to bring stability, he understands the importance of security, personal and economic for americans, and if he can provide that, it gives him a chance. but also provides a wonderful opening for republicans because many americans don't believe that's happening right now. >> historical reference the last time the democrats in 1996, so maybe chicago plays well for them. speaking of candidates not on the ballot, one of them in tokyo, ron desantis meeting with the japanese prime minister. >> great regard for the japanese people, japanese culture, and really appreciate what a great ally japan has been to the united states over many, many decades, and so we are excited to be here to be able to explore

more relations with florida and japan. >> john: i'm not running, he said, but he is there burnishing his foreign policy credentials. >> good step for him. lots of people are looking for an alternative to former president trump as you and david just outlined. and in the republican party, it seems to me that desantis is clearly the primary alternative. but he's had a series of missteps and lots of people think last week was a bad week for ron desantis. one of those missteps has been when he said about ukraine oh, it's a territorial dispute. and i think lots of people, especially people on the more establishment side of the republican aisle said wait a minute, maybe he's not ready. so for him to take this trip to demonstrate some foreign policy skills is very important. he needs to have a second wind. >> john: put up on the screen, the preferential polling numbers from nbc news, president trump way out in front, desantis narrowing somewhat at 31%.

i asked ronna mcdaniel the question, she would not answer it. does -- is there a root for desantis to beat trump in the nomination? i know he has not declared, that's obviously part of the calculation. >> right now desantis has the opportunity to make his case, but as we saw in 2016, ultimately once you get the front-runner and right now that's president trump, everyone else will get their chance to beat the front-runner. right now that's desantis. and the key for any of these republicans is the poll right there, 46 are for president trump. 54% of republicans want somebody else. that's the republican you have to go fight for and look about trying to get 5 or 10% of the current trump base. it's not trying to outtrump president trump. >> john: at this point in the 2016 race it was going to be jeb bush, at least things change on the president's birthday in june. david, juan, good to have you

in. sorry the segment was moved up. >> we are all here. >> good news. what we should be doing. >> john: sandra. >> sandra: as we await to hear more from the pentagon good getting those americans out of sudan, a live pentagon briefing we are going to dip in at the top and the news, listen. >> potential land routes out of sudan and detect threats and positioning naval assets off the coast of sudan should they be needed. in addition, africa command has established a deconflict cell in germany, good communication among allies and partners. secretary austin continues meetings on the officials in sudan and the state department ongoing efforts. department continues to actively conduct the sent of defense directed comprehensive review of dod security programs, policies and procedures in the wake of recent unauthorized disclosure of documents. toward that end, the dod chief

information officer issued a memo that provides implementing guidance to the dod components and validating compliance with cybersecurity controls and all systems and networks, focusing on access control, auditing capabilities, and user activity monitoring. we will post a copy of the memo to defense.gov later today. and secretary austin and the dod are taking this unauthorized disclosure of documents very seriously and will continue to do so. separately, the secretary concluded a successful trip to sweden where he met with his counterpart to discuss security-related topics shared by our two nations. emphasized sweden's bid to join nato and looking forward to them being the 32nd group. and ramstein air base, essential forum for identification, synchronizing and ensuring the delivery of military

capabilities ukrainians need to defend their homeland against russian aggression. with that, happy to take your questions. first to reuters. >> you mentioned naval assets near sudan. how many naval assets and what are the expectation they would do? would they go into port and help assist people coming out, or what's the plan for that, and then a separate follow-up. >> sure, thanks. right now we have the uss truckston, off the coast of sudan, near port sudan. it will stay there awaiting further orders should it be needed to support. also en route is the u.s.s. polar, so again those capabilities will be there should we -- should we need too use them in support of state department's efforts. >> on the evacuation, does the secretary believe that the state department requested evacuation in a timely manner or does he believe that the request was made sooner, potentially more americans could have been moved

out. >> the secretary has been following the situation very closely ever since violence broke out in sudan. i can tell you that he has been engaged on this daily with the state department and the inner agency, and so again, we moved very quickly, professionally and precisely when called upon to do so. thank you. >> two questions related to sudan. first on the isr capabilities, is that supposed to be 24/7 monitoring, only during the daytime, how long do you anticipate keeping up the capabilities and then on the deconfliction in stuttgart, is that with the warring parties, sudanese and rsf? >> isr is 24/7 capability, and enabling us to support state department efforts in terms of keeping -- maintaining an

understanding of the situation on the ground to look at potential land routes out of sudan. and then in terms of the deconfliction cell, largely speaking, u.s.africom have been in contact with the generals as other dod officials, chairman of the joint chiefs, keeping lines of communication open and so i would imagine that africom will continue to do that. >> can you explain why the air field where some of the other international military airlift planes are land jing and lifting off, the french took 400 out of the air field. why is the u.s. not sending

planes there to get americans out. >> ok, so taking a step back and looking at the operation that we conducted, again, we believe that in our planning we executed the operation in the safest, most effective way possible in terms of evacuating u.s. government personnel. you've heard state department and the white house talk to the situation with americans who may still be in sudan, who wish to leave, we are coordinating the state department i know and i would refer you to them for further details, is making itself available to communicate with those americans wishing to leave to find the best way possible for them to get out of the country. again, from a dod standpoint, we are planning organization, we are going to continue to look at a variety of means and methods should state department call on us for support and we'll continue to do that. >> are you helping the other nations that are sending war planes in to lift their citizens

out? are you helping with that deconfliction, are you helping them so there aren't any incidents? >> our coordination cell out of africom is coordinating with allies and partners in terms of sharing information and maintaining those open lines of communication as it relates to not only their own operations but updated in terms of what the u.s. government is doing. >> sudan and one ukraine question. the extraction force from saturday night, was that part of the standing organization that the pentagon sent up after benghazi, quick reaction forces for the region to prevent what happened in 2012? >> yeah, i don't want to get into the specific units, other than to say they were special operations forces. as you know, we did move some military capabilities into the region last week to be ready should the order be given, which it was, and so i'll just leave it at that. >> it was basically -- they were

not part of the standing force that was in place in rota, spain and then deployed to the region? >> i would say we have capabilities already in the region that obviously assisted with this effort, but we did deploy additional capabilities from outside that area of responsibility to be able to be available for these operations. >> the secretary on friday said the first of the m-1 tanks for training purposes over to ukraine fairly soon. was that one of the tanks off of the lima production line, one of the refurbished hulls and when roughly made the rest of the tanks get over there. timing accelerated? >> so these tanks will be for training purposes only. these will not be the refurbished tanks that eventually go to ukraine. and that is because those refurbished tanks are being produced to ukraine's specifications, and they will be used in actual combat. by providing these training tanks which are not coming from

the active army stocks, these are coming from other sources within the inventory, that will enable us to do the training concurrent with the production of the tanks, which again, refurbishment of the tanks allows us to expedite the timeline to be training on operations on maintenance, on sustainment, then the two -- personnel will marry up with the tanks obviously before the end of the year for delivery to ukraine. >> quick one on training. will they use simulation from fort benning, long distance simulator training via vtc or basically on the ground training with drivers right there. >> yeah, tony, so i don't have an answer to that question right now, certainly in the days ahead we'll have more information. the training will take place in germany and as you know, they use a variety of means to conduct that training. the training that they will be doing in germany will be

actually on the tanks, 31 of them, 31 training tanks provided to ukrainian personnel to train like they are going to fight. so -- thank you. >> thanks, pat. just back on the naval capabilities, can you -- you said the u.s.s. truckston and i did not catch the second one. >> u.s.s. puller. >> and can you say what capabilities they will bring, what types of ships are they and then i'll have a follow-up. >> yeah, the truckston is an early burke class destroyer. and the idea here is to have these capabilities offshore available should we need, for example, to transport citizens to another location, should we need to provide medical care, those kinds of things. so again, positioning assets to be ready if asked and if needed. and so you know, as we move forward, certainly if we are in position to have to employ that

capability we'll keep you updated. >> follow-up, nearest amphibious ships are far away, are you going to use the destroyers in the humanitarian -- >> less as a destroyer and a ship, a capability that comes with it a variety of capabilities to include transport. so again, right now to our knowledge we are not talking large numbers of americans looking to come out of sudan, but again, in the days ahead we'll stay closely coordinated with the state department, they are in the lead and we'll be prepared to support them. back to kaseim here. >> two questions on sudan. secretary blinken today said the united states is going to facilitate american citizens to take part in the convoys travelling from khartoum to port sudan. will the dod provide aid cover to the convoy, because blinken

mentioned also some robberies and looting some of the convoys. >> are you talking about the u.n. convoy? >> u.n. convoy. >> to my knowledge, the u.n. convoy made it to port sudan. my understanding, i would refer you, but my understanding is they largely made it there without incident. we did provide isr overwatch of that and so that's the extent of the support that we provided. >> and also today at the state department during the press conference with secretary blinken, the kenyan foreign minister mentioned some middle east allies partners and also russia specifically citing with the parties to the war in sudan. did you have any visibility on what the russians are doing in the war? are they actively supporting any side in the war, and do you have any visibility to that? >> i really don't. so i would have to refer you to

the mod. i have seen press reports about wagner group potentially reaching out to the rsf but again, just press reports at this point. you've heard our state department, you've heard our white house talk about the fact that we vehemently oppose any outside influences perpetuating the conflict. but again, i have to refer you -- >> quick follow-up to the other partner countries asking help from the dod? >> sandra: you've been watching what is the daily briefing at the pentagon, pat ryder briefing reporters and really addressing the situation that is the evacuation of the u.s. embassy in sudan and the americans and their families stuck in sudan and pressed on what we are doing, jen griffin a few moments ago. >> john: and why some nations are able to get access to the airport to get their citizens out but the u.s. has not seen fit to do that. the embassy staff was brought

out via chinook over the weekend, and why americans are in sudan and no immediate point to get them out. florida republican congressman byron donalds. mary miller from illinois tweeted joe biden has had to evacuate four embassies in four years. adults are back in charge. world has been on fire since their disaster in afghanistan. pray for our country and the 16,000 americans biden left in sudan. echos of afghanistan here. the embassy in khartoum is closed and still thousands of people who might want to get out. >> first of all, my colleague is absolutely correct. she called it right down the middle, like we have seen. four embassies, not even in three years of a presidency and seems every time a story is the same, some stupid form letter goes out from the state

department telling americans abroad hey, just like hunker down, shelter-in-place. meanwhile, we are evacuating state department personnel as opposed to having our military secure our embassy so americans can find safe haven to get out of the hot spots. last time i checked, we don't leave people behind but joe biden has now become an expert of doing this with antony blinken in charge of the state department. >> john: and during the trump administration they vowed they would never let a u.s. embassy fall or be evacuated. and yet this administration has done the same thing four times. it led you, because of what happened in afghanistan to introduce last week the big biden blunder act, seeking accountability for what happened in afghanistan. even before there is any accountability for afghanistan, we should point out no one has been fired for that. here we go again, congressman.

>> you are absolutely right. nobody has been fired from it. listen, we just had an oversight hearing a couple days ago where the inspector general of afghanistan has said in open testimony that the biden administration, the state department, and usaid are not cooperating with the inspector general from afghanistan in violation of federal law. so this administration is breaking the law, they are doing it brazenly, they are ignoring their responsibilities to do business and provide information to the inspector general. we left $85 billion behind in afghanistan that weak and terrible withdrawal and our view actually led to the ukraine invasion because vladimir putin could clearly see that there was nobody at home at 1600 pennsylvania avenue and if american leadership is not going to be firm, it tells our adversaries around the globe that now is the time to push hard, grab territory, be aggressive. the american people cannot

tolerate much more of this because a more aggressive world for china and russia means america is put into a secondary position and unfortunately world history is consistent on this. when america does not lead, it actually leads to the death of more american soldiers across the world because at some point we are going to have to stand firm. >> john: another big issue on the plate, congressman, what to do about the debt ceiling, and where negotiations are going to go when they eventually begin negotiations, they have not yet. last week kevin mccarthy the speaker introduced limit say grow act, allow for one and a half trillion dollar increase in the federal debt limit, but claw back unspent covid-19 relief funds, repeal green tax incentives and more incentives for oil and gas and biden responded verbally calling it whacko and irresponsible, but

nothing from the white house, nobody is talking about this. do they need to? >> they absolutely need to. the only whacko response is the fact joe biden refuses to negotiate. and be very clear with the american people. folks, joe biden wants a conflict on the debt ceiling. he could have increased the debt ceiling when nancy pelosi was speaker of the house six months ago. they passed an omnibus bill basically on christmas eve, they could have done it then, he chose not to on purpose because he wants this fight. what house republicans are doing is saying look, covid is over, even joe biden has acknowledged that, let's get back to precovid spending levels. makes perfect sense. let's have a common sense approach to how government's going to spend money going forward. actually bring back domestic energy production. those things, that will do a couple things. number one, domestic energy production helps to lower inflation. number two, controlling government spending controls inflation. number three, actually putting holds on the bureaucracy and

expanding our production here at home, expands our economy. all common sense stuff. it helps every american. but joe biden does not want to negotiate, what he wants is to spends $7 trillion next year while only receiving about 4.5 trillion in taxes. he wants to have brinksmanship, that's ridiculous. i anticipate we will pass the bill the speaker is putting forward, pass that this week and look at senate democrats and say you want to sit around and do nothing? that is irresponsible. >> john: the president is d dede -- demanding another clean debt ceiling. does not look like he's going to get it. thank you. >> thank you. >> another example of the federal government and the bureaucracy in the deep states stepping in and interfering with elections. we want to know what they base their disinformation on and

whether or not they feel they should be held accountable because this has an impact on a lot of people in the election and the polls have shown that. >> sandra: that was the house oversight chairman james comer, he joined us live last hour, slamming the justice department handling of the hunter biden investigation. attorneys for the president's son are scheduled to meet with the doj officials, fresh off the news of an irs whistleblower and antony blinken's role and 51 that signed a letter saying it was russian disinformation. jonathan, people are watching every bit of this and wondering how did we get here? >> yeah, that's an excellent question. this is a bizarre situation where you've had the son of the president under investigation for five years for crimes that seem well established, at least for the purposes of an

indictment. there are tax problems, there's this gun form charge. but there's also one thing that still remains rather odd. with all the leaks coming out of the justice department of potential criminal charges, they are not mentioning farrah, so not mentioning a possible charge of the president's son for being an unregistered foreign agent. that's the charge the biden white house probably fears the most. it's also the charge that merrick garland would not like to see. and the reason is that if he was a foreign agent involved in influence peddling, his father was the subject of that influence peddling. and so the foreign agent charge would spotlight the role of then vice president biden in attracting this type of influence peddling. the question, though, is this is a department of justice that brought this charge against loads of people, including trump

officials, but it's not even mentioned, it's the charge that cannot be referred to apparently in all of these leaks. >> sandra: wow, that is intriguing and the wall street journal over the weekend writes about joe biden and the 51 spies of 2020, and says intelligence officials have a particular duty not to spread disinformation because they have access to classified information the public can't check. press overwhelmingly went along with the false biden campaign claims because it wanted mr. biden to win. i should add this piece ends with this, jonathan. these 51 officials have done more damage, to damage the credibility of the cia and the fbi than anything trump has said, ditto for the complicit media. this is a pretty serious warning about what has transpired. >> it is indeed. and this is a very familiar pattern, right. in 2016 we saw the russian collusion allegation that was

raised, one of the people that was tied to that was jake sullivan who was later made national security adviser. that was also a false story placed in the media, and then 2020, they put this false story out that this was russian disinformation, the media ran with it. one of the people connected to that is now the secretary of state. and so there's this image of sort of the made men of the biden administration that these are people that are earned their bones by placing some of these stories. these are serious problems for that american people are going to want to know the answer to, you know, were they played for chumps. not once, but twice. >> sandra: which is why i pressed chairman comer where he thinks he's going to get with this, as the american people see the investigations, the hearings but don't see a whole lot of accountability. you mentioned your piece, antony blinken and the made men of the biden administration, you write in any other country this pattern would fit the model of a state media and propaganda

effort. however, there was no need for a central ministry when the media quickly reinforced the narratives. the biden campaign knew -- and the piece, you say once in power blinken was given one of the top cabinet positions, now one of the made men of the administration. you mentioned jake sullivan as well, he was speaking a few moments ago at the white house, jonathan. >> right. the funny, of course, the tragic irony is both of these people were using false intelligence reports for allegedly for political purposes and they were then given high ranking positions dealing with reports. what's troubling here also is that, oh, sorry, but the person that -- that created the letter said it was in part to get biden elected. >> sandra: probably getting that wrap in the ear as i am, too. we are up against a hard break.

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>> sandra: well, as americans continue to grapple with sky high inflation in this country, more evidence it is harder for a family to get ahead in some states than others. as you may imagine. it is harder in blue states than red states. a new study breaks down what you need to know. how much money you have to make to be considered part of the middle class in america. based on where you live. and out of the ten most pricey states, nine have democratic governors. let's bring in our panel who know that is 90% the co-host, brian brenberg and jackie deangelis. it's not us making a political statement but happening across the country. is this something that shocks you or that you would

anticipate, that it's harder for american families to get ahead in these blue states rather than red? >> not shocked at all. if you look at the map, most are in the coastal areas generally more expensive but are policy-driven, too. new york and california, the book ends, two of the most expensive places to live, the most in taxes and getting the littlest return and that's why people fleed from the cities. the irony to me is the fact that joe biden and his party always stand up on the platform and say they are working for the middle class, trying to strengthen the middle class but the policies hurt people. >> you can't even afford to get into the middle class, six figures in the ones we are talking about. and part of the calculation is taxes, property taxes, income taxes and one of the problems in a lot of the cities you say what am i getting for what i'm paying. new york city, paying a lot in taxes what am i getting for

that, and the answer is violent crime, you don't want to be in the cities because of how expensive it is and the cost of living has degraded so much. >> sandra: what is shocking is the disparity between making $100,000 in one state versus another. jackie, we had it up on the screen a second ago, state by state, where it is harder to be in the middle class making a significant amount of money. i mean, washington, california, colorado, but there you go, along the east coast, new hampshire, massachusetts, connecticut, new jersey, maryland, d.c., among the most expensive cities in america. >> they certainly are. >> sandra: states i should say. >> and brian brought up new york city and state, the services we are getting for what people are making here, why they have all gone to florida and they continue to. numbers rise out of the pandemic as a matter of fact, more people are forecast to flee in 2023, even the person that makes $100,000 and saying my buck can go farther, as long as i can work remote, i don't have to be

here. >> the key here, a lot of the states that know they are lower cost of living, know people want to come there, doubling down by cutting taxes, saying ok, if this is the advantage we have and people are looking for a better place, then let's really lean into it. let's cut taxes, make it a great place for business so you have the moment of decision right now among states. what do i do. do i continue to become a more expensive, difficult place to live, or do i change course and right now you are seeing states make that decision. we talked to jared polis on our show, he wants to eliminate the income tax. a democrat wants to eliminate the income tax. why? >> they are catching on because they have seen people leave and then you bring the cost of living up for everybody that's left, too. that's the other thing. >> sandra: but the thing that i can't get over is watching inflation just continue to gobble up wages, as hard as everybody is working, right, and it's one thing to celebrate those wages going up, but if nothing is bringing inflation down which historically it

really never comes back down, you are just -- it's just going right towards the high price of everything. >> you hear a lot of talk of inflation coming down and technically -- >> sandra: where? where? >> even if you look at averages, core inflation rate last month, 5.6%. nobody's wages are keeping up with that. so you can tell me it's coming down a little bit but most people are not feeling that. they are saying i still can't keep up, get me out of here. >> sandra: and causing more and more people to fall behind in saving for retirement. finish with this, inflation battering retirement savings. 25% cut their retirement savings due to inflation. 12% had to stop saving entirely. jackie. >> some people are working longer and saying i don't have enough to retire, i have to stay in the workforce as well, a huge problem for people and to brian's point, stagflation, sticky high persistent inflation mixed with low possibly even

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>> john: we've been reporting on states pushing back against gender ideology passing laws to make it harder for children to get radical surgeries that will last a lifetime. now liberal states like washington and oregon are responding by doubling down. what are parents there saying about this. >> john, a lot of parents are finding out that their rights are being trampled and a lot of

them are angry. we saw protests in the capitol. they're hoping jay insley won't saw the law but he will. children can get the services and there's no obligation for a shelter or the state to note fight parents. every republican voted no. >> if there is no documented case of abuse or neglect, the parent has a right to know where their kids are. it's an established right across societies across the world. >> 16 states are passing laws that ban minors from getting medical services to change genders. oklahoma and montana are poised to follow. oregon is joining washington state. a bill is expected to pass that will require insurance companies to pay for transgender procedures for kids as young as 15 years old.

even without their parents consent. republicans all voted against it. did offer an amendment that said detransition services might be covered. democrats rejected that. democrats are in full control of the state. john? >> john: thanks, dan. the debate continues. that brings monday to a close for us what a day. >> sandra: i'm in for neil at 4:00. good to be with you, john. i'm sandra smith. >> john: you still have miles to go. i'm john roberts. we'll see you tomorrow. "the story" with martha starts right now. >> martha: thanks. good afternoon. i'm martha maccallum on a big day of news. here's "the story." karl rove, markperson -- mark penn and kellyanne conway. new polls as americans seek different options for 2024. president biden expected to roll automati