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>> hello, everyone. this is "outnumbered." i'm kayleigh mcenany here with my co-host emily compagno, also joining us, fox business correspondent and host of "real tough women" gerry willis, tough woman herself. fox nation host and former nfl player and co-founder of "mission cooling" chris foletta. we begin with this, yesterday marked one month since the tragic shooting at a christian school in nashville. and while the fed today, they released a post mortem on the
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failure of silicon valley bank, there's still no explanation, zero for the grieving families of the victims of the covenant school massacre. six innocent lives were claimed that day including three 9-year-old students and three adult staff members. and while tennessee lawmakers have been calling for more details on the shooter's motivations, those calls have mostly fallen on deaf ears. among those pressing for answers, governor bill lee yesterday tweeted this. the covenant shooting was a tragedy beyond comprehension and tennesseans need clarity. he's exactly right. now, nashville police say they're moving to release the shooter's long awaited manifesto but they haven't shared a timeline for the release and it's unclear if the authorities will censor or redact any of those details. along with that manifesto, nashville police found many other items in their investigation. among them are this -- photos marked psych and medical, 20 journals, seven cell phones, five laptops, five yearbooks,
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two memoirs and a suicide note. even with all of that, the public has gotten zero answers on the shooter's motivation. chris, we're not letting this go. we are going to ask repeatedly on this show where is the manifesto? when is it coming? it's so important. svb bank collapses march 20th. we have a post mortem today. where's the post mortem for the six people that lost their lives in the nashville shooting? we need answers and we will hold them accountable for this. >> chris: we need answers. we need to understand if this is a hate crime or other kind of motivation. we need answers. answers will help us down the line in the future. what i want even more than the answers of why that happened is a biassed action on how we prevent this from happening going forward. we all have kids. i have two boys. they're 8 and 10 years old. one in the fourth grade. this hit home for us. they go to the almost identical style school as covenant.
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and to just sit there and complain from the outside is not acceptable to me. we've got to campaign from the inside. our administrators, our principals, our teachers, they're under an enormous amount of pressure and i feel like parents in particular can serve and help reinforce these schools. they can be a village to each other and to the administration. i don't know anything about school security. what i do know is our school has police, parents, military parents. people who do know how to secure perimeters and understand how to breach certain environments and wrt weak points are. i think it's incumbent upon parents to really engage the village in your local school and have an action here. >> kayleigh: our children there are diamonds and we guard the diamonds with armed guards. our children are diamonds and need to be treated as such. tennessee lawmakers, we think of the tennessee three that stormed the capitol. i think of the tennessee lawmakers demanding transparency and putting in public records request and saying we need this
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manifesto. and glenn greenwald is out with this, we've spoken with two major law firms who said they sent retainer letters to represent us suing the nashville p.d. to obtain the manifesto to back out at the last second. political pressures are intense. this goes to basic transparency. american public can decide if they want to read it or not. but answers in order to prevent the next shooting should be key here. >> i have to tell you, i'm a reporter, so i really care deeply about clarity, about having the answers, about getting the documents. it's critical. if you want people to move on, you have to tell them what happened. you have to show them. this is critically important. look, i understand that people out there worry that if the public gets this manifesto, something bad is going to happen. i think something bad is going to happen if they don't get the manifesto. it's absolutely essential that people understand what happened. how are these families ever so supposed to move on if that doesn't happen? >> exactly. and, you know, when we talk about the frustration of the american public, it's really
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crystallized when, you know, we're one month, one day out from the shooting. every other channel has essentially dropped it. we don't talk about it. no laws have changed. and when you look at laws, you know, even if you change gun laws, even if you change mental health laws, nothing changes tomorrow. but the one thing that could change tomorrow, protect our kids at school tomorrow is hardening our schools. it was brought up after uvalde and here is the white house's answer of whether they will protect our children by hardening our schools. >> there's been conversation about hardening schools. that is not something that he believes in. he believes that we should be able to give teachers the resources to be able to do the job that they're meant to do at schools. >> kayleigh: why doesn't the president believe in protecting our children at schools by hardening them? >> you're allowed to have metal detectors. it's that step further. you're saying tiffany's has how many armed guards? it's getting ridiculous. the texas house just passed a bill earlier this week for school security. they're going to have an armed
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security guard at every school. so, you know, this is something that we should move towards. when i drop my son off, it's terrible. when he goes to school some day, but i want to see an armed guard at the door protecting him. i want to have that clarity. and that's horrible that we haven't even have to have this conversation. but we used to train in school for tornado drills. now, you have to teach your kids what to do, you have little evelyn pull the fire alarm. she was so brave. she was trying to help. you know, that's not what i want to teach my kids but you have to and, yes, transparency, answers, we need to know what happened to prepare better. >> kayleigh: no doubt. emily, i've got to tell you, and i know you have some new details. we'll get to that in a moment. as a mom, i can tell you moms are animated about this. i've been to school board meetings and seen it. the passion. mothers want an answer. we want a change at school. we want to send our kids to school and not look at the clock every minute, every hour and wondering if our kids will be next. why can't we just fix our schools? it's tomorrow. something we can do tomorrow.
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>> emily: absolutely. to his point about bias towards action, you don't have to be a mother to feel strongly about this. everyone has a child in their life and everyone sees the unquantityifiable value of our children and how sacred their safety and security are. to your point, the fact that most of us feel confusion first. confusion at why is there lack of action? why did biden not sign that bill that would have put the hardened security in schools? the answer is clear. why aren't we moving towards it? certainly the exposure is an additional slap in the face because while the white house has time to do post mortems on svb and the like, why can't this be articulated for what it was? christian children were murdered. why can't they empathize with the victims? remember when kamala harris went to nashville, she was asked, are you planning on visiting the school? she said we've been in touch with the community. i need more. i need a sentence at a minimum that your hearts broke the same day that you will -- all of ours did. i want to highlight, if i may,
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for the first time since the covenant shooting, the six officers that went in there bravely and neutralized the shooter they have sat together and gave an interview. let's listen to a few things they said. and just to preface in the beginning by saying what was fascinating to me and certainly a god miracle was that one had forgotten a radio. and they were looking for the shooter. they didn't know where the shooter was. in finding the radio, running back to get the radio, they realized as that person was shooting from the second floor that is how they were able to triangulate and locate the shooter. i got chills. the shooter's location and so that enabled them to ultimately neutralize. let's listen to a few thoughts that they have. >> it's always going to be fresh in our minds. i don't think it's ever going to fade out. very traumatic day. very stressful day. seeing the pictures of the victims and knowing what i saw and comparing those two, it will never be the same. >> i can't imagine the sustained trauma and stress that those officers feel. they have said that the precinct
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they said has been amazing. they said that they've all been in counselling. precinct stepped up as did the community. they talked about in the wake of their stress and the wake of their trauma how important the community's support was. certainly, they're not getting it from the white house. they're getting it from nashville. they're getting it from us. let's listen to a moment of that. >> we've had a great amount of support from the community and from our family and from our friends and from each other. >> certainly an overwhelming amount of support, lot of letters being sent to our precinct. >> never seen nothing like it. so it's definitely appreciated on our end. we couldn't go through, you know, all the stuff that's coming into the precinct couldn't go through and write thank you cards for all of it. it's been that overwhelming. >> the support from the department has been amazing for all of us. we've all talked with counselors. we've all taken those steps to prepare ourselves to return back to work. >> emily: and you know, their body cam footage is now being used as training videos. it will be used as training videos for other departments across the country. it was absolutely textbook.
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and for me, to underscore what we are seeing and hearing there are these officers that they are part of a community. their heart broke in that moment also multiple times and it continues to break. and yet, the support of the community rallying around those heroes, remembering their names, that is what is important. that is what will stay and that is what we need in our school districts moving forward. every school. every school with an armed guard and every school with a hardened security. >> kayleigh: i applaud those officers and lawmakers asking for transparency. we will say it today and tomorrow and say it continually where is the manifesto until we get it. vice president kamala harris facing mounting criticism of her time on the job. with 2024 approaching, now a former top white house official is suggesting it may not have to do with her being m.i.a. on the border. it's because of, you named it, sexism and racism. veteran homeowners. inflation is gripping us all. when everything is going up except your income, it's time to cut your monthly expenses.
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>> kamala harris getting a wake-up call from american voters as she braces for 2024. the vice president continues to face fierce criticism from republicans and members of her own party for stumbling in interviews and making minimal, if any, progress on the tasks assigned to her. notably the southern border. but former white house chief of staff is rushing to her defense claiming it's not her fault that people don't seem to like her. watch. >> why do you think sexism and racism are a part of the problem? no question about it. i think that, you know, she just hasn't had the right -- she hasn't gotten the credit for all that she's done. >> emily: what's that? while white house allies try to repair the vice president's image, it seems like the american public isn't buying it.
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the latest fox news polling shows just 41% of voters have a favorable opinion of vice president harris. 57% have an unfavorable opinion of her. and only 43% say they approve of the job she's doing in office. chris, possible 2024 presidential candidate tim scott told fox on wednesday the only thing worst than a joe biden presidency is a kamala harris presidency and it seems like the american people agree. >> chris: he definitely took some shots for sure. you know what? it doesn't, first of all, what she represents for women and minorities in the office is spectacular and we have to acknowledge that. but it's not always about gender and identity. how about just the fact that it could be about leadership and poor leadership at that. and the fact that you have a job you've been trusted by the american people to do something. if you're not doing that job, we have the ability to hold you accountable for that. you're the border czar. i live in a border state of texas. we spend billions of dollars a
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year on border security in the state of texas. where is a plan? where is the plan not only for border security but to maybe fix the broken immigration system that has to do with visas and the fact that nearly half the illegals in this country came legally on a broken system. there's so much that needs to be done. you know, but we also have to acknowledge, it's not her problem. this is our problem. we have forgotten the fact that we are a team in the united states. and team is together each achieves more. and a great team has a great coach. and we put great coaches or at least we've elected coaches that we hope are great. sometimes they're not. and we got to hold them accountable to that because a great coach is a great leader and right now, we're not getting good leadership and i think that's the issue. >> emily: i disagree, simply because she's an utter failure. to me, i don't see her as a representative or role model in any form. i don't believe someone holding an office means anything until they perform. that's a position of service. she has exhibited no form of leadership.
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no form of accomplishment as evidenced, in part, i would say by how many have departed her office. certainly at a minimum, she's not maintaining any type of inspiring environment because a lot of people have been running for the hill the whole time. >> you say she's the border czar. she is tasked to be the coach of that. let's say that. she's tasked to be the coach of her staff. 17 have departed since she took office. i mean, you hear these stories come out, and it's just sad. i mean, let's look at the democratic party. you have these superstars so you want to tackle sexism. you have hillary clinton. you have michelle obama who wasn't an elected official but she is a shining star of the democratic party. you have nancy pelosi. i mean, you can't argue with their accomplishments. and it's just falling flat. and it's unfortunate. >> and interestingly, gerri, to that point, when ron says sexism and racism are part of the problem, he says she hasn't gotten credit for what she's done. the issue is evidenced by the fact that no one is able to articulate what she's done. give me specificity and an
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accomplishment she's done that's bettered america in any one of the, what, six, seven titles that she has? i haven't seen one yet and they haven't either. that's why they're unable to articulate it. don't forget, it's just about her skin or gender. >> to that point, if i were her today, what i would do is call ron and i would call him out and i would say, stop making excuses for me. i am not a victim. you're embarrassing me in front of the entire country. it's not sexism. it's not racism. this isn't what it's about. do you think the c.e.o. of pepsico for 12 years, that's unheard of. the average length of time that people serve is five years. do you think she said, you know, i'm indian, it was racist, i'm a woman, it's sexist. no, she never said that. if you want to lead, look, she has a seat at the table. she is vice president of the united states. she's a heartbeat away from being the leader of the free world.
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you know, you have the keys to the kingdom. move, right. >> chris: lead. >> emily: part of my problem with this administration and specifically with biden and kamala is leadership includes humility. leadership includes acceptance of responsibility, not just inspiring and taking action. and all we get from this administration is blaming others. it's an abject refusal to take responsibility for the consequences of their decisions or lack thereof or everything is trump's fault. let's watch an example of the fact that kamala harris continues to blame trump for the border crisis. >> the prior administration, they essentially dismantled the system and broke it. and we have been, since we came in office, attempting to fix it in a number of ways which includes more judges, more personnel, making sure that we secure the border but that we have also an immigration system that is fair and humane.
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>> kayleigh: it's not just ron who says it's sexism and racism. it's also jen tsaki that said that about kamala harris. it's kamala harris' own staff. harris' allies point out she has faced sexism and racism and argue that the white house has not helped her enough. so they're saying that the white house now, they're blaming each other even within so not just blame trump but blame others in my administration. but also want to point out, we'd be remiss if we didn't mention today, biden is at his historic low in approval. 37% and it comes hand in hand with the economy getting pretty bad marks. 16% say the economy is good. just a word of warning to republicans. it used to be the old adage, you know, it's the economy, stupid. well, it wasn't the economy, stupid in the midterms. the economy had low markings and democrats did very well. we have to come up with a new playbook because the economy being bad, biden being unpopular is not enough to get across the finish line.
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residences." guys, they would even be able to sue for $1,000 if they felt they were being harassed or told to relocate. the measure states a person experiencing homelessness has a privacy interest and reasonable expectation of privacy in any property belonging to the person regardless of whether the property is located in a public space. kayleigh, i can't think of a more irrational, illegal or nonsensical piece of legislature. they don't own that piece of property, first of all and the ideas coming out of these left wing elected officials continue to shock me. when gavin newsom proposes the peoples park, i'm from there. that's the only park around. why does -- it just kills me. >> kayleigh: there's zero common sense, emily. your frustration is echoed here as well. cashless bail, what do you think is going to happen when you do cashless bail? crime is going to go up.
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anyone with half a brain cell can tell you that. when you legalize marijuana, what do you think it happens? you go to new york city and wreaks of weed. you cannot escape the smell in the city. what kind of name is that? you're going to have tent cities all around your city and it's going to increase homelessness. and just a quick guessing game, top 10 cities with homelessness, i'll read them off. let me know if you find a commonality. los angeles, new york city, oakland, sacramento, san francisco, denver, all blue cities. >> all blue cities. you hosted a show on real estate and homes. i remember when i lived in seattle during covid, the tent cities already existed but then massively increased everywhere. in these public preservation parks where a lot of protected wildlife lived like eagles and the like. and yet, these guys had billion dollar lakeside views. i caught my dog eating a raw chicken licking container:the amount of trash, the amount of
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hazardous trash there in portland, the city officials had to don haz-mat suits to clean up one of them because of the amount of feces and needles. for them to frame this like these people need a right to exist on a sidewalk, it just boggles the mind. >> it is so heartbreaking to see. and you feel so such an array of emotions when you see this. my husband played for the padres. we lived in san diego for five years, i was there for three years. it's heartbreaking to see. this it is all around the ballpark. it's one of the most beautiful cities hands down. they want to take 157.8 million dollars, get 412 units in san diego and give homeless people a unit. they said just give them a unit, and it will all turn out -- that's not the case. you're taking out the drug addiction factor. you're taking out if they don't have an income. you know, where does it end? there is no ending. it's just a band-aid. >> such a white wash, too.
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my family lives in and out of portland. it's a whitewash to pretend this is a fantasy land of perfect utopia where people need homes and they can't afford it and that's who is taking over these democrat led cities. it's frankly a lot more insidious with a lot more horrible associations like she was just highlighting than they're presenting. >> chris: it is, and the -- you just brought up the right to rest act. such a strange act. what about my right to walk -- what about my right to walk down the sidewalk with my kid in a stroller or something? like do i have that right? if i have to run over somebody that is in a tent and ask them to move, am i harassing them? is all of a sudden a lawsuit? this is crazy. and giving people a path to progress is key. and this is why it matters for everyone in the united states. this is not just an oregon issue. we have to pay attention to this because a path to progress is what's most important. people need a hand up, not a hand out, right? we've heard that expression before. and a hand up means we help those who can't help themselves. that's important.
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but we don't leave it at that and just give people an out, basically. we've got to tie it to your ability to work, your ability to earn your way out and up and we have the ability as a country to create in the same way we did opportunity zones with infrastructure. we have the same way to create incentives around homelessness and the crises that occur in a lot of these american cities. we have to pay attention because it's going to go city to city to city and it's going to start overtaking everything if we don't pay attention to it. it's really important. oregon's homeless rate is up almost 24% since covid. what is the plan to give people a hand up and not just a handout. >> the plan is just to incentivize them camping on the streets. why should we pay tax? i'm curious, why should i pay taxes in these blue states when all -- it doesn't go to making the streets safer. it doesn't go -- if everyone enjoys the same protections as all of a sudden, i can put a stake in the sidewalk and i own it and get all the privileges and rights.
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why am i paying taxes? it's a slap in the face. >> you make a great point. i would just say that those 400 units are valued at $300,000 each. imagine, if you offer people here, young kids who haven't been able to get housing a place for $300,000, they would jump. if you're going to create housing, create housing for people that are putting together, you know, saving their money for that house. they're doing the right thing. they're trying to grow their net worth at the end of the day. look, i got to say the other problem with this, you know, owning the sidewalk is what about people who have businesses on that sidewalk? because people are not going to go into your shoe store or grocery store, your pharmacy if there's somebody camping out in front of it and they're living there. i mean, you've seen this right here in new york city. >> keep in mind the multimillions of dollars that all of these cities and states are paying on the homeless crisis as they plan to spend more of our money, the homeless
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knowledge while addressing hardship some students may have at home. one administrator in oakland, california defended the move telling "the wall street journal" "classrooms are pressure cookers." they're now able to relax, say, i can have a bad day and spend more time on things. it changes the way the classroom feels." emily, i've given my views to you before about testing. i don't think it captures the whole person. i don't think it captures how to work necessarily because it's hard to prep, let's say for the s.a.t. homework does. this is a direct extension of the work you put in, the time you commit. to eliminate this, i mean, you can't eliminate your job requirements. you have to show up for your job and do your job like these kids need to do their homework. >> emily: exactly. when oakland says it's a pressure in the classroom and we're going to eliminate that. what do you think the real world is? do you think it's stressless? you have got to be kidding me we are applying what should be enjoyed by 3-year-olds and 4-year-olds which is a
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stressless environment and somehow bringing that up through now college and beyond? west virginia university doing away with tests all together because they want to help manage stress? i am shocked at the lack of appreciation for what happens in the real world. when i'm in criminal court, do i want my attorney to say oh, too stressful. oh, too much of a pressure cooker in this court today! what do we feel that surgeon should be prepared for? what do we feel the pilot should be prepared for? there's an absolute disconnect between the coddling we are imparting on these students with the application to the real world lessons they're going to need to learn. i want my students, i want my kids, i want my future fellow colleagues to be able to operate under stress and to know how to pay attention to stuff. >> kayleigh: no doubt. one teacher said they're relying on children having intrinsic motivation. good luck. another student said even in his a.p. classes, there's an apathy that purveyeds the entire classroom. my law school has a system
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that's not grades, pass/fail, there were definitely kids that did not have that intrinsic, i'm good. auto i've a piece of paper that says harvard on it and someone is going to call me. in the spirit of this, i can head out now. you've covered everything. deadline is over. seriously, like summer friday. let's head out. repetition. that's what you're learning. you're knowing multiplication, division, you have to do anything, you're an athlete. if you don't look over the playbook, if you don't work out, you're not going to look good on sunday. you're going to lose! >> chris: no question. it's funny because you actually mentioned it. our coaches used to deliberately make it harder in practice so that the games are easier. and that is, i totally agree with everything you said and when you said it. it's spot on. equity is when everyone has not just the same programs or initiatives.
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it's when they have access to all of those things. you know what's coming. it's like when we run a track and field race, everybody has a different starting point in order for them all to run the exact same distance. but when they start the race, it's up to you and your performance and your ability to take over. and what causes you to win? your determination, your grit, your practice and perseverance and the work that you put in to being the fastest runner on the track. it's no different here. as much as i would have loved not doing my homework when i was in school, of course, i always did all of my homework. always did my homework. >> everyone believes that. >> chris: this is a real issue. by the way, this is an issue we've got to pay attention to as well. we are -- they did a study in 2018 before the pandemic, math, the u.s. is ranked 38th. science we're ranked 18th. reading we're ranked 13th. guess which country is number one. china is number one. russia outranks the united states in math. you know, and our president has
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said, anyone that outeducates out outcompetes us. we're being outcompeted right now and taking homework away from kids is not the answer. give them more homework. >> kayleigh: totally. there's one part of the proposal that i get. it's unfair to give kids extra credit by saying bring in extra supplies and give them extra credit. not every kid can afford to do that. i like that. i've got to believe, to chris' point, it's no accident this is coming post covid. to me, this screams our kids have fallen behind because of leftist democrat shutdown policies and now we'll lower the standards. >> that's absolutely what i was going to say. this is post-covid hangover, right, that's exactly what we're seeing. and i think that these kids not all of them are getting this free pass. in some of the most competitive school districts in the country. a girlfriend called me and said i went to the p.t.a. meeting and the moms are saying that the kindergarteners are needing homework. they don't have any. some places that kids are working really hard. that's who you'll be up against.
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otherwise, we're looking at a work force that's going to be disappointing and not going to be able to execute. won't be able to do the operation or represent the client. i mean, it's really concerning what this next generation will look like. and they are the diamonds. >> kayleigh: yes, i hope my diamond's homework is high to the sky. goes up to here. all right. we'll be right back. in case you missed it is next. at pnc bank, you can find us in big cities and small towns across the us, where our focus is to always support the people who live and work there. because you call these communities home, and we do too. pnc bank. life... doesn't stop for diabetes. be ready for every moment, with glucerna. it's the number one doctor recommended brand that is scientifically designed to help manage your blood sugar.
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>> get more insight into hunter biden's finances after an arkansas judge orders that he appear in court in a child support case. what could this mean for the house republican investigation? congressman mike johnson is here. a new study finds the murder rate soaring in major u.s. cities. what do they have in common? politics plays a role. we've got that story. why is the f.b.i. spending millions on electric vehicles instead of counterterrorism and fighting crime? congressman mike waltz has a few thoughts on priorities at the bureau. and a familiar face on fox news dan hoffman was asked to sign on to that intelligence letter on hunter biden's laptop. why he said no coming up. i'm john roberts. join us at the top of the hour for "america reports."
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♪ that makes you larger than life ♪ ♪ ♪ larger than life ♪ >> all right, guys, welcome back. time for "in case you missed it." animal rights activists in upstate new york are reportedly stealing livestock from local farmers and calling it animal rescue. authorities are trying to track down the barnyard criminals. farmers say their livelihood is at stake. here's the county sheriff on "fox & friends" earlier this week. >> nothing more than teaching people how to go to farms and steal their property. it's a farming community here in niagara county. and certainly, going on to people's property and taking their livestock or attempting to take their livestock is a crime. it's not rescuing. it is a crime. >> i'm sorry, if i was a farmer, meet my doberman, get off my property. >> chris: same, stealing an animal in the name of advocacy
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doesn't make you an advocate. it makes you a criminal. pretty clear, this story is pretty absurd in my opinion. >> emily: they stole on one farm three baby chicks. what good is that going to do? i can't deal with the level of intellect. >> i have nothing. i have nothing. i can't wait to have chickens some day. i have nothing on this at all. i can't. just -- everyone stay in your lane. meet my doberman and gun, stay off my property. if they actually stole more than a baby chick, that's a farmer's livelihood. >> throw away the key. this is trespassing, a number one and to actually steal property, it's not forgivable. i think it's hilarious that they can put forward this idea that, you know, we're here for the animals. and we're keeping them safe. i wonder what their lives are like now. that would be very interesting now. what are they eating? where are they sleeping? >> there are plenty of rescue animals that need homes. >> emily: the bee keeper the
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other week, they were preserving the bees. not damaging. >> i was confused by this story, why they were committing these activism acts or whatever you want to call them. criminal acts. and then i thought this was about climate change. i thought this was like al gore stealing cows because of cow flatulence and how it affects the environment. apparently, i was wrong. >> emily: next up, heroic middle schooler saving the day on a runaway school bus. watch. that amazing surveillance footage from central mass shows the 13-year-old taking control of the bus after the driver passed out behind the wheel for a medical emergency. the seventh grader sprang into action after noticing the driver suffering this medical episode, grabbing the wheel. telling his friends call 911 before safely bringing the bus to a stop. i have chills. nobody was hurt. and the bus driver is recovering at a local hospital. kayleigh, hero indeed. >> kayleigh: dylan reeves is his name. wow, this kid, hero kid and i love what his mom said. his mom said, jesus had
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everything to do with the bravery and swift action dylan displayed today. to dylan it's just another day. he had no idea the amount of people that are so proud of him including us here on "outnumbered." >> exactly. >> absolutely. we've been saying nasty things about young people and their ability to study. this kid is fantastic. >> chris: put dylan on a pedestal and get him from front of the public and be a role model to kids everywhere. that boy is a leader and going places. >> emily: it's smart for the parents. teach your kids call 911 and teach them what to do in those situations. >> you think bus ride, kids are going crazy, chatting and catching up what's going on in their lives. for him to have that foresight and jump into action is beyond his years for sure. >> emily: finally, more americans seem to value a good night's sleep over sleeping with their partner. the new trend known at the sleep divorce is now a hot trend hashtag on social media. the idea is to sleep separately from your significant other to
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avoid distractions like snoring, hogging the covers, sound of their alarm. as i told my partner, i would rather be butchered in my sleep than have a sleep divorce. to me, that seems so unhealthy because you're taking away from the bond. >> sleep divorce equals real divorce. words of affirmation and physical touch. if you're not holding my pinky or something, i'm going to freak out. my husband, if he sleeps on the couch, do you love me? are you ok? i just fell asleep on the couch, ok. i'm fine. >> i could not disagree with you more. >> what? >> i woke up this morning and my husband came in super late. falls asleep. immediately, you know, snoring like -- it was not pleasant! it was not pleasant. you could hardly blame me for getting up that night and going somewhere else. >> chris: i don't know if my wife feels the way she do. i hope she doesn't. it's like this thing, keep the room freezing. she doesn't like it.
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cold feet have to go on my leg. >> doesn't everybody do that? >> chris: it's all good. i can't stand it but sort of like it. it's like this weird -- >> emily: i love your wife lily. whatever she wants. i will say shawn probably agrees with you, gerri, he would probably want to do this. i get yelled at so many times. and i get up and start reading news articles. shut the light off. turn the light off. i'm the problem in this scenario. >> got to be somebody. >> emily: i know. more "outnumbered" in a moment. veteran homeowners, it's time to fight inflation. use the three p's: plan ahead by getting a va cash out home loan from newday. pay off your high rate credit cards. pay yourself cash.
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>> last but not least, casey is hosting a new series scampreunuers, the lives and crimes of con artist that got caught. an mary was a master manipulator, took advantage of anybody she could, especially men. >> carie saw something she was hungry for, eager to have, and she wasn't sure how to get et. they had dubbed her the hipster grifter. >> she is still one of the top ten scams in the world today. >> amazing. reminds me of anna delvi that went viral. >> she is like anna delvi light, she did not go global. she had a rouse, she said she had cancer and wanted money for
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recovery, oh, forgot my atm card, and then elizabeth holmes with theranos and her edison machine and the stanford girl dropped out and used her tuition money, she got 11 years. see if it pans out. and then you have a fake saudi prince, has done it, it's very interesting. i learned so much, fox nation did an unbelievable job. you are an entrepreneur. don't step out of line. >> and seems to be happening like all the time and some of these cases, is the challenge matching the laws to the scam, why is this all of a sudden happening? >> i don't know. i want to say social media, i want to blame it for everything. but in kylie jenner's defense, at least her lipstick works. and you turn 30 and oh, i missed
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forbes, like these people get on it? not fair. >> maybe they don't do the homework. >> upright entrepreneurs like chris. >> there you go. >> we hope you all have a great friday. thanks for joining us this week. do not forget to dvr us. here is "america reports." >> sandra: thank you, team. republican lawmakers could get a deeper look in hunter biden finances as they look at allegations of biden family influence peddling, before a child support hearing in arkansas. >> john: we will learn more about hunter's foreign business dealings and could president biden be implicated. mike johnson will join us on that coming right up. >> sandra: begin on this friday with president biden facing questions for the first time since the cheat sheet scandal, and he had a hard time answering

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