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always dark. will:ed good morning, california. welcome to the fourth you are hour of "fox & friends". pete: when you go out to people, i talk to people and say does anybody watch, it's so early, and there are people that get up real early. will: yes. rachel: they're getting up to go fishing -- will: or they dvr it. a little bit earlier in the show i told pete and rachel and you at home about a little bit of a parental debate that the id had. my son had sort of accepted a dare/bet with his buddies at school to get the haircut called the r9 haircut. he had a huge head of moppy hair and his friends dared him for him the get that haircut. i was, like, i don't want him to learn van i the, i don't want him to the not take himself seriously, but should i let him collect money? long and short is of it, you see the answer. i gave it to him, he did get the haircut, and he has to wear it

for the entire week. so i put it to pete and rachel, did i do the right thing as a parent? pete didn't think it's the right all call -- pete: i'm playing the role of archie bunker here. i think wes rocks it really nice. wisconsinwomen -- will: and rachel said -- rachel: i probably would have said no, but now that i see it, it's just hair. will: exactly. rachel: i think it's going to give him some character. has he had any regrets? will: no. [laughter] rachel: how many days has it been? he did it -- will: he did it on wednesday, ask he's voluntarily keeping it throughout the weekend, because he wants to play soccer games. [laughter] so you the viewers have weighed in. one viewer writes, it's just hair, it'll grow out out. will's son's friends are is tucker -- are the suckers. [laughter] rachel: another one says will

should give pete a haircut -- [laughter] rather shaggy, peter. will: the r9. pete: you want me to do the r9? it's going to take a little bit more than a couple hundred bucks on that one. and brooke writes, boys will bet on anything. just wait until they start up a regular poker night at your house and you're forced to hang in your room. this is your future. [laughter] you'll be responsible to the feed them all. will: this is my -- honestly, brooke -- can. rachel: this is a woman with experience. will: if i'm being real with you, i did do overanalyze this, and i did the think, okay, i just don't want it to be like who's going to drink the beer, who's going to jump off the bridge? west will do it. rachel: they're good kids. it's was hair. before we move on really quick, because you guys say i always blaze over with sports. morning sean sent me a text that last night the avalanche, my nephew's team, won, and my

nephew eric scored a goal, they're playing kraken and are not -- pete: crosswalken? will: kraken, right? [laughter] rachel: even this i screwed up. st the all tied up three games to three games. pete: big game seven coming up. rachel: just there's another piece of news in this, this came, like, not very long ago which means he just woke up, expect kids have been running around. pete: he's watching it, we appreciate that. by the way, the kids in the hegseth this summer had the shows of -- choice of a shaved head or a multi. so i agree with you -- mullet. hair shouldn't be a thing. rachel: i like that idea. pete: all right. governor ron desantis hits big fund raising numbers compared to the republican field even though he's not, as you know, yet announced a bid for the white house, but it's likely. will: but the florida state senate is paving the way way with a major change that would allow him to run.

rachel: alexandria hoff is live in washington with more. >> reporter: good morning. florida law used to require that an elected official had to resign if they qualified as a candidate for another position. the legislature has now made an exception, and governor desantis is wrapping up a global tour, making a final stop mt. if u.k. he maintains that a potential run will not be announced until the state's legislative the session wraps up later next month. the governor has been dealing with a wave of sunshine state endorsements going to his presumed gop opponent, former president trump. but politico notes he already has a major edge when it comes to donor cash. over $110 million. the report compares that to $55 million that the maga inc. superpac backing trump disclosed at the end of '22. president biden is five days into his re-election campaign with polls showing voter concern over the economy and his age. axios pointed to white house officials who have said he's sharp but that he's, his energy has decreased and that's really

limiting his schedule. in the taking a look at that, axios to reports that the president has only held 10 public events before 10 a.m., just a dozen after 6 p.m., and most of those just being dinners and and receptions. there's also been 12 weekends with no public events, and even when public events are held, white house staff, you know, they keep a short leash, we've seen it. democratic congressman ro khanna says he wants to see more authentic moments. >> look, obviously age is going to be a factor in the election. the president's open about it. i think put him out there in a press conference. who cares if someone makes a gaffe? every person makes a gaffe in the conversations. let's see the awe innocent thetic president biden do -- authentic president biden. >> reporter: can a that also feels the president should agree to debate his democratic challengers. will, rachel, pete? will: thank you, alexandria. we all just watched ro khanna, what's he doing? because he is many that quote making almost apologies for

biden, oh, his age isn't that big of a deal, but then he says put him out there, let him be authentic. not good advice. rachel: yet he's the one calling for senator feinstein to step down. there's political reasons for that -- pete: alexandria reported on the desantis fund raising effort, they're big numbers. i'll tell you this, it's like a textbook campaign roll outright now. book tour, check. fund raising, check. world tour to show that we can coforeign policy, check. exploratory committee, check. and the momentum is obvious, right? st the like they saw his massive win in florida, and and i think said this is the moment, right? to the whole point of the moment. except as he's checked all of those boxes, his poll numbers against trump have gone down. so as people see more of him, donors, the basic gladhanding of politicking, he hasn't quite been up to snuff, and so his numbers have gone down. the trump team's obviously

attacking him too. it almost seems like when you get going with consultantses and a campaign, there's almost ineffable momentum -- inevitable momentum, now we have to run -- rachel: but he hasn't announced. pete: no, he has not, but that's a really hard thing to offramp --, but what if the numbers aren't there and you go, whoa, maybe this isn't my note. -- moment. i'm just saying looking at it from the outside there's a lot more factors to be considered thanker okay, i'm going to zoom into this race and hinges will change because i have a big war chest. a lot of candidates that have had big war chests looking good on paper that they went up against the trump behemoth and came out the other side -- rachel: yeah. pete: and i love ron desantis. but this may not be his moment. i wonder if there's people wondering that. will: this story left me buffering earlier. it's concerning. experts are saying, sometimes they're putting a time frame of five years, a.i. will be

companions to humans. we will have relationships, a connection with, essentially, software. this a.i. is getting so so good that we will develop a human connection with them, perhaps romantic relationships -- rachel: gross. will: i'm telling you. rachel: it's so weird and gross. pete: it's where it goes though. will: and it's here. in fact, that's -- when rachel said we don't need technologists, we need theologians, a technologist said already, we need it now, not tomorrow. watch. >> a lot of online conduct that a happens today already even without a.i. being present has been stripped down to some of its most superficial and inhuman aspects. just because there's a human on the other end doesn't mean that you're, you know, dealing with the best part of i humanity. one of the points i make in the

book i just wrote is that these systems tend to reinforce the parts of us that are most computable. so we're already being encouraged to strip ourselves down to a bunch of labels and identifiers and be seen in those terms. a.i.s extend that even further, but the irony, i think, is that we were already headed there. will: so that's what threw me off. pete: rattled your cage. will: this a.i. thing is uncredibly concerning. but what he said there is we're beating a.i. to the punch on stripping ourselves of humanity. we live online so much and what we put online and that trans-- what translates isn't what makes us human. it's our identity, our race, our hi this, our that and even when there's another person on the end of the tweet or the text, are they really being human? pete: an interesting part of humanity, are the 23450u wants in between? that's the depth.

the depth is what's real, and i don't know how you recreate the depth. rachel: what i think is going to to happen, and i'm usually the pessimist with all of this kind of stuff, i'm actually an optimist. i'm concerned about the young people who are, you know, going to grow up in this what's sin nettic, what's authentic, but i think right now there's going to be a reaction that people want things that are real. i'm hearing people saying that they're going back into -- and not just because of a.i., just because sop of what's going on politically seems so out of their control anymore. they don't think, like, one election is going to the make the difference. or they're not even confident in the way these elections go anymore. and so what they say is i just want to be with my family. i hear more people saying i just want to live on a farm. even i'm considering getting chickens at this point, and i don't like chickens. pete: you hate chickens. can we roll that clip? [laughter] rachel: but the idea of just returning to what's real, what i

can feel, dirt on the ground, i think there's a, there's going to be a reaction to this and wanting that human interaction more than ever. will: okay, i lovering thaw -- everything you had to say. rachel: you're not buying that. will: zero chance that you go get an egg from a chicken. zero chance you go in the coop -- rachel: no, but i have the kids to go get the eggs -- will: you sending sean to the coop -- pete: that's okay. rachel: i don't know, i can't even look at them. but i would like to have them. my point is this the, i think people want to return back. will: i agree. rachel: and i think people want to be with their families more. i'm so much more interested in relationships than the i am in technology, and i think there's a lot more people like that the more scary this whole -- pete: there is some of that. s the scary. i actually think that's a sign of a pessimism about the future of the country. st all going in that direction. i don't want any part of it, i'm

going in this direction, and that's certainly the instinct i've had -- rachel: you live on a farm! pete: well, we're not yet farm -- well, kind of but not really. rachel: getting there. pete: if the world's going this way, i want to go this way. and that's a difficult thing to do between phone, between media, between robots -- will: well, this is a story that i know i am fascinated by. i've said i think it's the only story, so i did a deep dive on it on the will cain podcast. i i talked to two a.i. experts, and one of them said within five years you have a.i. concierge at a minimum. pete: where does that concierge live? on your phone? rachel: yes. they're like a robot. will: to be honest, i bet it's integrated. my suspicion, what do i know? you can talk to anything, hey, order me -- you're in your fridge, order more eggs. rachel: and people who don't have real human connections start to attach that connection

to that concierge -- will: you know, we would look in the fridge and go order more egg, and she goes, sean? [laughter] go get the eggs. rachel: that's because i have a phobia of eggs. i mean, chickens. will: you could probably name your a.i. whatever you want. pete: absolutely. to your point, couldn't you say, you know what, sean? let's name our a.i. sean -- [laughter] sean, how you feeling tonight? it gets to the point -- rachel: yeah. we all have souls, we all have bodies, that's what we need to focus on. pete: there we go. turning now to a few additional headlines starting with a fox news alert, a suspect is still on the loose after a shooting in cleveland, texas, last night that's left at least five people dead, tragically, including an 8-year-old child. police say the shooting happened inside a home, and they're looking for a suspect who used an ar-15 rifle. they believe the shooter was

intoxicated. several other people are being treated for injuries. and nearly a year after the draft of the ruling overturning roe v. wade leaked, supreme court justice samuel alito claims he knows who's behind it, telling "the wall street journal" i personally have a pretty good idea who's responsible, but that's different from the level of proof that is needed to name somebody. according to alito, the leak put a target on the justices' backs. he said it was rational for people to believe that they might be able to stop the decision in cobs by killing -- in dobbs by killing one of us. that's how seriously -- rachel: wow. pete: and new york moves to become the first state banning natural gas hook-ups. its latest climate action. according to governor kathy hochul's budget plan, natural gas hook-ups will be banned in small buildings starting in to -- 2025 and large buildings beginning in 2028. this despite 60% of new york households relying on natural

gas for heating. rachel: remember when they said this was a conservative conspiracy, the wasn't happening, that that we were ginning up a lot of fear about -- pete: the electric grid, everything's going to be the fine even though we already have blackouts and is brownouts -- rachel: and not enough electricity. pete: now we're going to get -- it's going to go great, everybody. brought to you by the democrats. and now to the usfl, the birmingham stallions take on the new orleans breakers today, that game's at 12:the 30 this afternoon. and later today the memphis showboats will take on the houston gamblers at 7 p.m. eastern on fox. both teams are looking for their first win of the year, and one of them will get it. will: my favorite usfl logos and names yesterday, just -- pete: you rank them for fun? will: yeah, we went on brian kilmeade's show, he has stickers a after how -- the of all of them. rachel: the things that guys do --

[laughter] pete: it goes all the way back, i found a binder at my parents' house my art or project in seventh grade drawing every nba logo from from 199 91. -- 1991. will: it was because pete and i were waiting to go on to brian's show, one nation, tonight at 8 p.m. along with south dakota governor kristi noem and others. pete: and we watched that joe da veto -- devito interview, funny. will: still ahead, time ticking down to the end of title 42, how is texas preparing for a potential flood of illegal immigrants? our panel of ranchers sounds the alarm next. rachel: plus, twist and shout for national pretzel month. we're going to see who can roll the perfect salty treat, coming up next. ♪ well, shake it up, baby, now. ♪ twist and shout ♪ ♪ ♪

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♪ >> we have been preparing for this transition for more than a year and a half. notwithstanding those preparations, we do expect that encounters at our southern border will increase. let me be clear, our border is not open and will not be open after may 11th. rachel: with just 12 the days away from the end of title 42,

secretary alejandro mayorkas insists the border is not and will not be open come may 11th. this as migrants continue to trek toward the u.s. our next guests have a firsthand look at how texas is preparing for the looming flood of migrants. ranchers join us now. hang to both of you. i'm going to start with you, john. just the last week again alejandro mayorkas, the secretary, said that the border is closed. what do you say to to that? >> well, in polite ways, i don't believe it. it's horrible. it's never ending problem here. we are just battling from every direction, you know, south and west, walking traffic, dropping off lots and lots and and lots of traffic getting dropped off, you know, paid by the cartel for people to drive 'em to a location, drop 'em and walk around the checkpoint, etc.

rachel: and what do you expect to happen, vaughn, when title 42 is lifted? how are you preparing for it, and what do you expect to happen? >> well, i'm not sure what to expect. obviously, there could be essentially an onrush, just a tremendous number of people coming over. most of the ranchers in the area that that have been prepared for this because it's been happening for the last couple years. obviously, we may have greater numbers, but fortunately, we've had a huge outpouring of support from friends and family and even strangers from across the state and really around the nation that are willing to do whatever's necessary to help us out down here. rachel: vaughn, let me just stick with you because you say you're preparing, you're getting help from friends and neighbors, etc. what does that preparation look like? >> well, you know, we all hope that it doesn't come to anything like this, but, i mean, we've had guns and ammunition and dogs and cameras and lights and locks ready for the last couple years.

we are hoping and praying that somebody within either the federal or state government will, will ten in and do what what's right -- step in and do what's right. rachel: yeah are. well, john, i see how vaughn says he's, you know, stocking up on ammo, he's trying to prepare himself, but just this past year we saw a rancher try and defend his elderly wife, and then he got, you know, charged with murder. how does that affect the way you do prepare or even defend your property? >> well, i can tell you that, you know, confrontation is ultimately an everyday problem. but we know with we don't have, we don't have rights anymore. nobody's going to come to our aid. matter of fact, i would think they would persecute us if we did something wrong. you know, that's in the back of your mind every single day. people are here, aggressive people, you know, we're scared

to do anything because we hear of these stories of what people are going through that have done something. so, you know, we're really tied, our hands are tied for the most part, and we're not getting a lot of support from our cbp. you know, if a guy calls in at night and says they're scared of the lightning or scared of the thunder and they call 911, well, they come immediately, call me at 1, 2, 3:00 in the morning, they want to send people out to get 'em. but if i have 10 or 15 guys on the ground, very rarely will they even come help me. rachel: this doesn't sound like america. it's just awful. and shameful of our government to put you through that. thank you for joining us. i think the only thing we can do is tell your stories, and we appreciate you doing that and god bless you. >> yeah. thank you very much. all we can do is keep talking. rachel: we will. yep, we're going to keep talking about that. up next, we're back with our

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♪ pete: well, joe biden announced his re-election bid the week, and there are a number of issues, as you know, plaguing america. we're back now with our voter panel to see what some of their top issues are. not your issues. you keep your issues to yourself. we're going to talk about political issues. st been fun getting to know and talking to you all this morning, appreciate it. we've got a couple of republicans, democrats and independents, so across the spectrum, but we haven't talked that much about foreign policy or national security or america's sand thing on the world teenage. marisa -- stage. marisa, how would you grade or how do you look at biden's foreign policy over two years as a democrat? >> it has not been strong at all, and the dnc kind of touted him as someone that had

experience because of his appearance as a vice president, but that's just not true. he has not cone a good job at making americans feel secure, feel safe. top of my mind, obviously, is china and taiwan and what's going on over there and, of course, what's going on in the ukraine. national security is a huge priority for me, and i want to see how he thinks he's going to get us out of this mess. pete: so let me step back. that's a great answer. for each of you, is national security, foreign policy, is it a top three issue? raise your hand if it's something you really care about. okay, so we've got -- it's pretty important to you as you cast a ballot for a commander in chief. natalia, let me stay with democrats. biden, compared to trump, what's difference? >> [inaudible] i don't know if i can compare him to trump because while it is an important issue, i i was born in the soviet union, so i'm keenly aware of the world outside of new york and outside of the united states. but i think that what biden has done has really been to divide this country in a way that it

hasn't been in my recollection. i came here in 1977, and like him or not, reagan was a great uniter and made everyone feel like he was the president of the people. biden said that he was going to unite this country, but actually as divisive as trump was and as polarizing, i think biden's actually even worse. so i'm concerned because i think that national security starts in the nation, and this nation is divided. pete: you're right. if you don't believe in each other, how do you fight a foreign foe at the same time? frank, i've seen you shaking your head. as another self-identified democrat, your thoughts. >> yes. i believe that biden has been so weak. i think the first failure was afghanistan. we got a defeat there, and we left all our weapons. and after a lot of our soldiers died there there, they are suffering from problems. plus i think that he didn't do enough to prevent the war in

iraq -- if ukraine. he should have do better to prevent that. pete: he voted for the war in iraq ooh. mary, as an independent, what part of america's role in the world, national security concerns you the most? it's very interesting to the see three democrats be very critical of this administration's foreign policy. >> well, we have a leader of a country that a can't even speak. you know, he's not coherent. nothing that comes out of his mouth actually makes sense. i mean, our standing on the world stage is horrific at this point. and then he's led us into war. you've mentioned trump, at least with trump we didn't have any wars. we felt a little safer at home. he hasn't done anything to help us with china, hasn't done anything else to help us with russia and the ukraine situation. it's really scary times right now. and then you see what's going on on the border, we're losing our country, and we really need somebody that's going to unite the country and keep us safe and have a better standing on the

world stage. pete: john, you know, as an independent, it's pretty easy to encapsulate what trump's foreign policy was. it was peace through strength, america first. he was clear about it. how would you describe what a biden foreign policy is? >> well, i may not be able to articulate all that, but i'll say this just to the encapsulate it from my vantage point. i'm a proud american. and i feel like the experience of that has gotten watered down. and and so i'm really looking forward just the some clarity and some strength. and so the security issues and the policies, they intertwine. i want to feel good about my kids going out, i want to feel good about myself going out and traveling and some of the things that we earned over the very course of bidding up this country to the what it was -- building up this country. pete: when you enforce the rule of law and you're big dog the on the block, you can maintain that peace that certainly has eroded. john, from the republican perspective, foreign policy, what the administration has

done. >> i'll give you the john burnett perspective as a person with a wall street background. when you look at the world, there's a huge void of leadership that wasn't there prior to 2020. when you look at china, they're brokering peace in the middle east? that's our job. they're actually coalescing the bric nations, right, to rival the u.s. dollar or? all these things are unraveling. so we have military issues, we have in terms of the global financial system which we once owned, now china and russia and other cohorts are trying to the come against the u.s. so we have a lot of issues in a short amount of time. so we need to actually fix these things through proper leadership, strong leadership, peace through strength at any point between now and now. pete: between now and now. short window there. chris, you were with the one who didn't raise your hand on this being a huge issue for you.

why is it -- i'm sure it is a concern, but why are domestic issues so much more important to you? >> yeah, i think whatever happens on the home front is always most important. and what happens outside of here is always second care. but i definitely echo, we need someone with a show of strength. we need america to not be the place to be messed with. and the person we have in charge now is just,st a very weak figure. so outside of politics, the overall impression of who's in charge now, he's just a very weak person to be in the seat that he's in. pete: certainly what our counterparts around the world are seeing. >> yeah. pete: for sure. let me end with this because you guys have tackled an array of topics with will and rachel and now foreign policy with me. we've got democrats, republicans, independents. i don't know if it'll be rump the, let's just say it is. trump and biden, who votes for joe biden if election day is today? just raise your hand if you do. okay, we've got one really low hand raised. who votes for donald trump?

we got four up, one half and we got a -- sir, neither hand went up. you've got one finger up. okay. [laughter] >> she's got her hand up too -- [laughter] pete: oh, oh, will has observed a secret hand. that is actually quite revealing that might be like -- the invisible hand. well, that's actually -- [inaudible conversations] pete: hold on, what? >> we're going to work on marisa. pete: interesting though, wasn't it that hidden voter in 2016 that maybe did not admit they voted for trump? i'm not saying that was you, but there were some in the back -- can thank you so much. >> -- has his hands in his pockets. [laughter] pete: we're going to the end right there. well done, sir. thank you all very much is. all right, more "fox & friends" in just a moment. out here, you're more than just a landowner.

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rachel: newly released photos show accused murderer brian walsh buying a hacksaw, cleaning supplies and disposing of a trash bag into a dumpster just hours after his wife's disappearance. pete: as new court documents reveal, the mom of three spent thanksgiving in dublin with a boyfriend, and according to prosecutors walsh suspected the affair and had his mom hire a private investigator. anna walsh disappeared on new year 's day, and her body has

not been found. will: retired fbi special agent nicole parker joins us now to the react. of thanks for being with us, nicole. new photos, new information here. what does it tell you about the case against brian walsh? >> as a former special agent, i have conducted investigations into similar cases where the husband has killed the wife. obviously, he is innocent until proven guilty. this is a first-degree murder charge. they will need to prove intent. but the evidence is mounting. it looks very sold for the prosecution. pete: but, nicole, as we read, today haven't found, sadly, they haven't found the body yet. i mean, how much of his defense would be i didn't do it, there's no body and you can't prove it? how much of a hurdle is that for investigators? >> you know, that's always going to be defense's first statement is, oh, you know, there's no body, they're just missing. i can tell you end typically people that go missing in studies performed by the fbi in the past, about 70% of the people that are missing are

found within 24-48 hours. but the no body factor is not something that is going to stop from stop the proving a homicide or a first-degree murder charge in this. it's actually quite common. but when there's ample evidence that proves what he did to dispose of the body which is happening in this case, hen it's the not a hurdle that they cannot overcome. rachel: yeah. i mean, who the heck goes and buys a hacksaw, right? all of the things are there, and hacked be enough, right? it's circumstantial. >> well, you know, there's also something very important that investigators are going to be looking at, and that's behaviors. we're going on the, you know, they're going to be the looking at pre-offense behaviors, offense behaviors and post- offense behavior. is it normal for brian walsh to go buy $400 of cleaning supplies? is it normal for him to be taking a trash bag to a dumpster to dispose of something wearing a mask by himself in the evening hours? i mean, you need to look at the logical, again, pre-offense,

offense, post-offense behaviors, that is critical in this investigation. will: and, nicole, prosecutors put together a picture, right? and it's different than, you know, i think maybe the case that we all have enough to -- in our head. it's completely circumstantial. what you can draw from all these pieces of evidence that don't directly point to the crime, but when you put them all together, here he is buying the supplies, googling allowed to do it, here he is changing his behavior pattern, you don't have a picture that reflects reality. >> oh, absolutely. you're going to be piecing everything together. but, quite frankly, considering cases i've investigates, this is solid. i mean, you've got google searches of how to get rid of a body, how long does it take for a body to smell? why was he using his son's ipad to do the searches? he probably thought the investigateors weren't going to be searching his son's ipad. to me, this is a very, very solid case for the prosecution. was there a life insurance policy, you know? was there a divorce in the

future? the all of those things point to a potential guilty individual here. rachel: wow. it's a sad story. pete: it is. nicole parker, thank you so much for bringing your expertise this morning. >> thank you for having me. rachel: still ahead, coming up on "fox & friends" weekend tomorrow, we have senator josh haw by with -- josh haw hi, maria bartiromo and kurt can knudsen. will: but first, day two of the nfl draft is now in the books. the biggest moments, next. ♪ give me everything tonight ♪ v, and i'm a fitness instructor. i saw myself in a photograph. and we were all smiling, and i looked closer, and i was like that- that's what everybody sees? i'm back, and i got botox® cosmetic. the lines were so prominent it's all i saw in the photograph, so now when i take photos, and i see myself in photos, its- it's me, i just have fewer lines.

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will: a big night for the nfl as the second and third round are of the nfl draft picks unfolded. let's take a look at what happened. all the tension in the first night was around something that didn't happen, and that was university of kentucky's will rev vis didn't get picked in the first round, and cameras stayed on him all night long. well, he was picked. the tennessee titans traded up higher in the second round and took him. michael mayer was also supposed to be a first round pick, many said he was the best tight end in the back. many people compare him to jason witten, he was drafted by the

las vegas raiders. and brian branch from the university of alabama also projected first round pick endee second to the detroit lions. here to react is fox sports report kevin -- kevin, great to see you this morning. i actually love the second and third round of the npr draft. i think it's -- nfl draft. i think it's when people actually get to work, where is the real value. which team do you think had the best draft finding guys in the second and third round? >> i love, will, what the chicago bears were able to do yesterday. you know, in the first round they go out and get protection for justen fields who was sacked 55 times -- justin fields, so the optimum thing was get a protector. and then yesterday in the second and third rounds they loaded up on the defensive side of the football. three defenders for the bears. i think they've had a really solid draft. and coming out of this one, look, we are all assessing this and three or four years down the road we'll know if we were

right. i i a can say, i love what they did, nobody's going to remind me of it in three or four years, but you have to be impressed if you're a bears' fan. they've made moves that could really improve their team. will: yeah, i could do the next three minutes on the cowboys' draft. i recognize this isn't a sports show and i'm not on a sports channel right now, so i'm going to ask a question that was asked the me by rachel campos duffy just a moment ago because i think this is fascinating. why didn't will lev visits go where everybody thought he would go? is that a failure of all the industry analysts and the mock drafts? is it a failure by agents because they didn't have a clear picture of what teams actually intended? how does something like this happen when the projections were so high? >> i think it's a failure of expectations. look, the expectations were set whether by his agent, whether by will himself. of before the draft there were rumors that he was saying to people he was going to be the first overall pick taken.

it really changed how the odds went in the betting side of the nfl draft. and all of a sudden as he fell -- and you knew if he didn't get picked in the first half of the draft, by the tie he got to the second half of the draft the teams that were picking didn't need a quarterback. will: right. >> you weren't going to see kansas city go in there and get a quarterback. they're fine. all of the teams picking in the back half didn't need a quarterback, so once nobody took him in the first half, you kind of had a feeling it was going to be a rough night. he's in a great spot though. he can learn behind ryan tannehill and really develop for the npl. will: we had a big day in the usfl are, the memphis sewboats take on the houston gamblers and the new jersey generals take on the michigan panthers all of thatted today on fox. what do you expect there, kevin? >> showboats and exam brothers, one of those teams is going to get a win, and heir desperate. 0-2 to start the season, frantic to get a win. michigan's one of the surprise

teams right now. they've already matched last year's win total. longtime nfl coach mike nolan, their new head coach, really making waves. will: all right, kevin. thanks. have opinion in rounds four, five, six and seven and in the usfl today. will: still ahead, twisted. it's national pretzel month. who can make the best one? oh, a competition in making pets pretzels, huh in that's coming up. ♪ ♪ ♪ if you're happy and you know it, clap your hands. ♪ ♪ if you're happy and you know it, ride your bike. ♪ ♪ if you're happy and, you know it, then your face will surely show it. ♪ ♪ if you're happy and you know it, smile big and bright. ♪ thousands of kids just like me are happy every day. and it's all because of generous people like you who support shriners hospitals for children every month. all you have to do

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>> april is national soft pretzel month. >> today we brought in experts to teach us how to twist the perfect pretzel. vincent martinelli is the ceo of wetzel's pretzels, the pretzel twister. >> try saying that three times

fast, that's the most impossible. tell us about wetzel's. >> we want to think and to say thank you for inviting us to celebrate national pretzel month with you. as you can imagine this is one of the most exciting times for a pretzel company. we have been doing this for three decades now since 1994. we started in redondo beach california and today we have over 400 bakeries across the country. wonderful. >> what is the secret to making a perfect pretzel. >> i'm glad you asked. we can teach you how to make pretzels today to celebrate. the secret to making the perfect pretzel is a three-step process. it's all about rolling, snapping and twisting. eric here my master roller is going to show you how to do that. roll, snap, twist. >> were almost out of time. we're going to grab a piece of the enrollment out a wingspan, roll and spread.

>> we have to go to the other side rick, that's what they told us to do. the length of your wingspan. i did not get enough rolling time. you going to take your ends, your going to snap it like a lasso, you can flick your wrist, spin it around. after one spin, drop it. >> after one spin, one full complete spin. >> what? >> that is not right rick. >> that's totally right, bring down your feet, tuck it in. there you go, tuck it in. i don't know what tuck it in means. >> i'm just giving this to myself. >> how did you guys do this.

who won? >> i'm going to tell you you cheated, during covid you are doing all that sourdough. >> we also brought you a t-s t-shirt. >> the pretzel roller to rick. then you very much for being with us. >> rick, congratulations your first victory ever. ♪. neil: oh joe troubling news as joe biden jumps into the 2024 race when everyone focuses on his age, new foxhole showing voters top focus is their own wallets. nearly eight in ten say the economy is doing only fair or poor with seven and ten saying it's getting worse. they could be right, reports out saying said regulators are scrambling to find a buyer for another bank that is collapsing. this time firs