priorities is just bad faith. >> all right. we'll watch it closely. senator tillis, good to see you again. >> you too. >> this could drag on for months, but time is running out. so is mine on this show. here comes "the five." ♪ ♪ >> hello, everyone. i'm dana perino w. it's 5:00 in new york city. this is "the five." >> fox news alert. jesse is back at the table. his wife gave birth to their new daughter. gigi makes jesse a girl dad

times three. good news he's wearing the suit. who knows what could be on that after all the baby holding he's been doing. jesse, being a new dad is tough. jesse is going over the show with the producers. >> just the best way to disseminate important information in an efficient way, right? >> jesse's twins are excited to have a little sister. looks like jesse jr. is already chipping in. >> i think that's enough, jess. nope. that's good. she has a lot of goldfish. very good sharing. good sharing, jess. that was really nice. one more and we're done. oops. you missed. one more. give her one more. nice. good job. high-five. >> wow. giving up goldfish is a big deal. jesse, what's it like now you

have little gigi in your life? >> it's great. i'm not that tired. that's gigi. a little controversial. i've been spelling the girl's name wrong. >> okay. >> is it g-i-g-i or capital g lowercase i capital g lowercase i? >> you have to tell us. >> i don't know. i don't know if she knows either. >> a baby nurse, and you sleep then? >> the baby nurse does the nights so we can get some rest. >> you have a baby, and we're the ones tuckered out? >> so to speak. you've had a couple weeks, haven't you? >> you do the handcuff tonight, check the monitor. >> i shouldn't wing it? >> yeah, don't wing it. >> i'll see what i can do. it's been a great two weeks. i thought about extending my

paternity. i'm legally entitled to six weeks. i didn't have to come back today. >> so why did you choose to? >> because i missed you, judge. >> i don't believe him. >> isn't it weird that it's called gigi -- i'm sorry -- she's called gigi? >> it's not about you. >> somebody that should be the godfather is in this room, and it might be gigi. >> because you guys are almost the same size? that's why. the first day we announced emma was pregnant, we didn't have the name yet, you mentioned the fact that george foreman had an ego, and named all of his children after himself. you said georgina. >> exactly. >> we just happened to name her georgina. she was six three at birth. they lose weight in the hospital. i bet you didn't know that.

>> did you put her on ozempic? >> what about jesse jr.? how did that transition go? >> don't transition him. >> he's fine. he's still identifying as male. he's been a great older brother. usually i ignore him and prep for "the five." >> right. >> are you laughing that i prep for "the five"? very funny. >> how did you arrive on post as a middle name? >> post is a family name on emma's side. great-grandmother. it just flows really well. georgina post watters. we were thinking about emma jr. or jessica, but we went with georgina post. >> what's post? >> a family name. you weren't listening. >> right.

>> your brain changes and grows when you develop a new skill, taking care of a baby, for example. >> oh, i don't know if you could measure by brain going. there's a lot of room. it's hard to tell. i don't have baby brain. do the men get the baby brain? >> you have to read the package. >> i was changing diapers. i've actually changed two diapers. that's the thing with having a nurse or the nurses at the hospital. when the baby goes to the bathroom, and the nurse is there, you kind of want to give the nurse a look like maybe could you get this one, but you also don't want to look like a bad father. so you are guilted into the changing the diaper. i've changed a few. >> oh, you're winning hearts across america. >> i am. >> just like dr. jill. >> baby in the car seat.

>> i have to have emma's mother install it in the car, because i got frustrated and walked away. now it's fine. she's in the car seat. >> all right. so then what about the dog? the dog is still. >> the dog was fine in the beginning, got rowdy, and started eating everything. the dog is at emma's parents. >> for how long? >> when it stops raining so much. they'll be reunited with the family. we don't know yet. >> how long does the baby sleep at night? >> i don't know. because i'm sleeping. well is what i'm told. >> the baby nurse is great? >> the baby nurse is great. we love judith. she introduced us to "family feud" with steve harvey. have you seen it? >> oh, yes. >> never seen it. >> greg and i wanted to go against "the view" for charity. >> that's a great show.

we would crush them. >> yes, we would. >> you're telling me you just heard of "family feud" now? >> i just watched "family feud." i don't watch tv all day like you. >> do you like "family feud"? >> yes. it's a good show. except some answers are ridiculous, but that makes it so funny. then steve harvey's reaction to these crazy family members is gold. when i get fired from fox, i want to host "family feud." >> you will be. >> can i ask you a question, bigger picture, just for people out there who are thinking about committing and getting married, having a family, becoming a dad, becoming part of something bigger than yourself, being the head of the family, a big thought. >> something serious? >> i don't know. you don't have to be serious. >> with baby brain here. >> it was really nice these last two weeks with paternity, because you spend a lot of quality time with the family. good one-on-one time with the son. i did change more diapers than

i'm giving myself credit for. emma has been spectacular. she's lost almost all the baby weight. >> i saw a picture. she looks gorgeous. >> we don't think she's human. we're sending her for tests. now i have three weddings to pay for. that's why i can't get fired from fox. the weddings are a lot of money. >> keep holding my hand. we're glad that you're back. coming up, hunter biden in court reporter for a child support battle that could expose how he makes his money. ♪ ♪

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♪ ♪ >> hunter biden's corrupt house of cards could soon be crumbling down. the first son appearing in court today in arkansas, facing off against the mother of his 4-year-old love child, a little girl that hunter hasn't even met, and that president biden refuses to even acknowledge. hunter wants to lower his child support payments. the mother is accusing hunter of lying about his income, and wants the judge to throw him in jail till he comes clean about how much he makes. so this isn't just your ordinary child support fight. the case could blow the lid off where the biden family gets all the cash from, and whether the big guy is getting his cut. the judge just ordered hunter to answer additional questions about his investments, art sales, and other financial transactions. james comer says the developments could be key to his investigation. >> we want to know how much

money he's made and who the buyers are. that's the most important part, who the buyers of this artwork are. we want to know if hunter biden has offshore accounts. we're learning more every day about the complex scheme that the biden family had to try to disguise the source of the revenue. so i think this court case has a lot of potential to help assist us in our investigation. >> what kind of things would hunter answer to these written questions that could help james comer's investigation? >> the amazing part of this, is you've got the department of justice, the fbi, the irs, congressional oversight, and they will not be able to get anywhere near what a family court judge in arkansas will get in this case. this family court judge is a straight shooter based on everything that i've been reading about her. she's requiring she answer additional questionnaires and she's criticizing his lawyers

for overly redacting disclosures and finances. she's ordered that hunter testify in june in a deposition, and that they go to trial in july. now, what this does, it blows the whole thing open, because hunter -- by the way, you know who started this? hunter. he's such a cheapskate. he went in for a reduction of child support himself. the mother says my little girl has never seen her mother. she's acknowledged by her grandfather, who's the president of the united states. they put stockings on the -- up for christmas for the dog and every other grandc grand child,t this grandchild, and i want my daughter to use the biden name. he outrageously says, oh, it's a terrible thing, it will destroy her if she use my name. the truth is he's sold and made fortunes on his name. he wants to deny his daughter.

we're seeing an articling settlement of $2.5 million. he's paid 750 allegedly. that's according to the lawyer. everyone take it with a grain of salt. this judge is going to force him to follow through on that financial settlement. if he shows that he doesn't have the money, she's going to keep digging. this is a judge who's going to go in with a forensic accountant and make sure that hunter biden and his family as a result of the connections cannot hide the money this baby is entitled to. think about the psychological, the emotional damage that this child will go through when she realizes how embarrassed they were, how they tried to hide a little girl. shame on them. >> are democrats, jessica, embarrassed? >> writ large? no. >> are you? a little. >> i'm embarrassed that anyone would deny a child like this, whoever they are. i think it's an awful story. the fact that it's now playing out all over our tv screens, in our papers, makes it even worse. things like this go on every

day. the judge was saying she sat as a family court judge for a while and seen this, that this is something that goes on. obviously this is on another level, because it involves the president of the united states. it doesn't seem particularly in line with the kind of ethos of this family, or what they have projected as the ethos. i do think that if the judge's assessment is right, this family court judge will blow the lid off the whole thing, that's good for all of us, to finally know what the financials, if there's a connection to the big guy. hopefully this girl will get her $2.5 million settlement in full. most of all, i'd like jim comer to stop going on tv and say, got this, got this, and then he says, if this, if that. just draw the connection, the straight line, and we can all go home. >> he did draw the straight line from china to biden to the bank account.

>> dana? >> a lot of people might say, well, this money is money hungry, money-grubbing. no. she has a child she has to scare for -- care for. probably has to have security. never met her father, her grandfather or grandmother, jill biden. the bidens say we're a loving family, a great family, and forgive our son hunter for all of his transgressions that he had, his addiction, and we're so proud of him overcoming the addiction. to me this is a matter of character for all of them. at what point does the president say, son, let's do the right thing. make she has the financial means. i want to know her -- when i was growing up, my grandfather on my dad's side, the rancher, he was an important influence in my life. when i think back to men in my life, who have been the most helpful to me, and shaping me and helping me have confidence,

being able to be who i am today, it was my grandfather that i look to, that i remember so fondly. a lot of women feel that way. this girl, as the judge said, she will always know she completely ignored her. for what? for politics. when actually the politics would have been better if they said, hunter, just do the right thing. london, you are welcome to our beach house. i know, hunter, you have a new wife. deal with it. she'll get to know her cousins, her stepbrother, stepsister. it really does break my heart. again, this is not the right winning coming up with this story. hunter biden had the affair, denied paternity, fought it every step of the way. this jungle is out to help the

child. we should follow it that way. >> the president has money. he could loan hunter some coin to help her out. >> or maybe start selling his paintings, right? that could pay for whatever he owes, because he does paint like a 4-year-old. it seems only fitting. it is amazing, too, the original denial. do you know what his denial is? he doesn't remember. if only we could say that about everything. i don't remember. he said he had so much sex he doesn't remember. still, i do think it is a mistake to let the hunter's human failings become the story, because that could be separated. you know, his human failings didn't bury the laptop. we need to get to the real story of influence peddling on behalf of the big guy. that matters more. still you have to think about this is the granddaughter of the president of the united states. he ignores her. i mean, she earned that place. her mother slept with hunter

biden. think about that. that's like sleeping with foursquare blocks of squid -- skid row. that's worse than going into war. darker, scarier risk. i believe president joe is confused by all of this, because in the old days they probably handled this differently. you know, this person went away. how many politicians back in the old days had illegitimate kids, and they just disappeared, and then you'd hear rumors, what happened to them. >> or you just paid the woman off, like most politicians. >> right. >> he won't even do that. >> donald trump, he slept with porn star, but he paid them. >> can i just mention one other thing, look, this reporter -- this isn't a knock on the reporter, but at the white house correspondents' dinner, there's a "washington post" reporter, honored for his job. he does a good job. what they awarded him for, how

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>> the democrats are continuing uncle when it comes to biden border crisis. lori lightfoot is pleading for greg abbott to stop sending her migrants. >> we are completely tapped out. we have no more space. no more resources.

frankly we're already in a surge. we've been seeing over the last week 200-plus people coming to chicago every single day. the borders are themselves overwhelmed, but you don't solve that problem by simply sticking people on buses to a city that they condition ask to come to for an uncertain future. now we are literally full. >> white lightfoot makes a stink, turns out the number of migrants being bussed to chicago is only half a percentage point of what texas has dealt with. in classic biden administration fashion they're changing the definition of words. like what is a border? >> what's the definition of a secure border to you? >> it is, in the context in which we are working, it is maximizing the resources that we have available to us to deliver the most effective results. our apprehension rates at our southern border are consistent with the apprehension rates in

the prior administration. why is that? it is because of the extraordinary -- and extraordinarily heroic work -- of our united states border patrol. but the challenge is enormous. >> so jesse, chuck todd didn't know how to define a woman. now he doesn't know what a secure border is. what is it when they're in trouble, they always seek either redefine or negate the feeling of words? >> that's what men do when they're married. it's a tried and true tactic. you can't get away with as a politician. johnny looked at the apprehension rate. same as trump? he lied. todd wasn't able to fact-check him. the story of chicago, a couple years ago they were a sanctuary city. come on, come all. trump wanted to do i.c.e. raids there, because there were bad hombres, and they said, stay out of chicago, we'll give them sanctuary. now they're begging i i.c.e. toi

come.c back and deport these k people. it's about money. they don't want to pay their own money to take care of the migrants. they want federal tax dollars. if they have to pay, there's t less money to skimo off the to. right? t in chicago has gotten smaller, because the businessesb arece leaving, the rich people e living, and now t they have to take of the migrants and give them hotel rooms and sandwiches. they don't want to show people where the money is going, because it's going in their bac pocketth. the welfare state, you have ae bunch of people inwe chicago tho don't work, that are asking for money. all these people coming from latin america want to work, and they're getting thwoe money.in g that's humiliating. biden was supposed to have an app that was supposed to fix the border. remember open table for illegals? you were supposed to make a

reservation and wait at the rio grande, and then they'd send you in. i don't like where this is going, because every single -- whether it's it's the vineyard, new york, philly, now chicago -- they've all said send them home. it's the same thing texas has been saying. >> exactly. >> we can't take care of them. we're stretched too thin. it's joe biden trying to turn texas blue. >> jesse stumbled into the truth, like he often does. the argument for paying more taxes is pay your fair share, you have to pay your fair share, but they cannot shoulder the burdens of a policy of illegal immigrants. shouldn't they be, quote, paying their fair share by taking migrants in. >> or send tax dollars to texas and say thank you very much for dealing with this. i find it incredible that no democrat is willing to go after

the biden administration for the problems hurting their cities? this is not governor abbott's fault. recently polling shows a vast majority of americans blame the federal government, not the state government, for the immigration problems. it is a federal problem. which is curious, by mayorkas goes on tv, saying we did the right thing on day one, we introduced legislation, and congress never did anything, so therefore he can't do anything either? jessica tweeted this weekend, which i pointed out as well, it's graduation season, they're graduating as a doctor, a girl here illegally for a long time, studied oncology, wants to be a farmepharmacist, no, you have t, deporting her. biden put migrants on planes in the middle of the night to fly them around the country.

abbott is saying, they're going around the country. she's crying uncle. she should call uncle biden. >> judge, what are your thoughts? >> you know what's so amazing, the arrogance of a mayor to say how dare you governor abbott to send these people to chicago. she's pleading, it's not fair. they'll have an uncertain future if they come to chicago. is that an admission that you'll be a crime victim because chicago is overridden with criminals? >> it's the height of arrogance, better the southern states be overrun. when i hear lightfoot use the word "surge," we're completely tapped out, there's no room, there's a surge, remember two years ago when we used the word "surge," we were racist, a horrible thing, it was a lie. she can use it and it's all fine. the irony here is that mayorkas is saying thanks to the work of

the border patrol, they are the best. wait a minute. last year they were the dirtbags with the reins they were beating people with. you never admitted you were lying about that allegation. and so they declare a state of emergency. even the new york city mayor has declared a state of emergency. i think eric adams is the only one who's even kind of come close to saying, joe biden, we've had enough, you pay for it, because we can't. >> i'm always perplexed when they talk about the apprehension numbers. every fraction you need a denominator. it's meaningless without saying out of what, right? you're a woman. i assume you're good at math. i love the glasses. >> do you like my hair, though? i'm doing it different. >> i think it's fantastic, but i'm not allowed to say that. yeah. it's great. >> i am good at math, by the way. yes, denominators matter.

they do matter as well when you're talking about fentanyl seizures and all that. mostly americans that are trafficking fentanyl across the border, and we should talk to that. to the point about the big city mayors, eric adams did full bore criticize the administration about it, saying it's going to cost us $2.4 billion to deal with the migrant crisis here, and the administration owes us money for that. if these are the policies, this is going to end up happening, give us money. new york city has already spent $1.2 billion this year in accommodating what's going on with the migrants that have been sent here. the federal government should help sanctuary cities accommodate these people. they are people who want to come here for a better life, want to work, and -- >> wait a minute. what about violence? >> because. can't get a job at home and -- >> so why are they going to chicago? >> stop it. yeah, stop it. there was a horrific this

shooting in texas. >> that's right. >> an illegal immigrant was deported four times. neighbors asked him not to shoot the gun in the front yard. we have babies trying to sleep. he came in and killed five people, including an 8-year-old. it sound like one of the most horrifying crimes, with dead women on top protecting children and all of it. i think it has the opportunity to galvanize us around this issue of making sure people who have been deported are out of here, like the woman who was murdered in san francisco and -- >> i wish you were right. i really do. >> me too, because it obviously looks better for my track record if i'm right. there's something going on the way we're talking about everyone. greg abbott issued a statement, 50k reward for the guy who killed five illegal immigrants. the blow-back on the phrasing of that, why it matter they were illegal? only four of five.

one was a permanent resident. people know that illegal immigrants especially in border states are wonderful people, they're your neighbors, go to school, and when you demonize people with language -- all that matters is the guy that killed them, that he was illegal, and how did he get that gun? >> wr i don't think it's dehumanizing. >> why it matter if dead innocents are trying to get their baby to sleep? >> i think they're describing -- >> how does that describe? >> do you want me to answer or not? >> thanks for the spirited debate. ahead, elon musk is warning bill march about the woke virus and why it's important to stop. your yard is your sanctuary. where you should feel free.

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>> elon musk is taking a stand against what he calls the woke mind virus. the twitter ceo explaining to bill march just how dangerous the left's attempts at censorship have become, and why he thinks it's important to battle it head on. >> you know, those are two aspects that are very dangerous, anti-democratic. you can't question things, even questioning is bad. we must protect free speech. free speech only matters -- it's only relevant when it's someone you don't like saying something you don't like. obviously when speech is something you like it's easy. >> when elon musk did this interview, one of the things he says, he's not a conservative, that he really bought twitter, because he felt that free speech was so important, and he was tired of them suppressing conservative voices.

it's amazing to hear someone from that moderate place speaking. >> i lived my whole career in and around politics, so i very much understand left versus right, liberal versus conservative, etc., and there's and i thinkthere's a continuum,e should more, a little bit of this, a little bit of that. he considers him a moderate. a free speech sa absolutist. hollywood really wanted the woke left to help them beat president trump. now they're, like,, oh, jeez, the hockey lef woke left has ta. when you think what kind of art is not being created because people are afraid, or what kind of new innovations are being held back, because people think it might not be inclusive enough, we could be at a point where we are stalling progress rather than -- what the

progressives want, which is more progress. >> you know, greg, when elon musk bought twitter, dorsey said, you know, he was a light of consciousness, and he was, you know, the best thing that could happen to twitter. now a year later, dorsey, who apparently has an interest in blueski, is saying, it was a mistake, never should have paid a billion dollars, and he's openly critical of musk. why do you think that is? i don't know. i can't read their mind. it could be the beard. i don't know. the bill march talking about this, it's not so much about elon musk. there's evidence that we're turning a corner on wokism, which is scary, because the left always comes up with something worse. because wokism is so absurd, the most per savesive critics are progressives, people on the left actually are the people that everybody is believing, because they're going, wow, these guys

are destroying us. when this bubbles up, you see it in real time and elsewhere, i give it another six months before it's gone. >> the interesting thing, jesse, he's basically saying censorship at some point will turn on, exactly what musk is saying. >> greg makes a great point. it's like a mind virus. if you've caught it, you have your antibodies. that's why you need the democrats to help slow the spread, because this thing is transmissible. and if you have people like a musk or like a marr bill the left to knock it off, that's who they're going to listen to. they're not going to listen to jesse watters. you only kill the virus if the republicans and democrats unite to kill it. >> a two-week lockdown.

>> that will do it. that will do it for sure. >> elon musk says ai, the woke mind virus in particular, will push us toward an a an a an ac end. >> on the woke mind virus front, i was disappointed there wasn't more discussions of practical examples, because i think those are the most important way to convey the truth about this. greg loves it when i talk about book bannings. i'm going to do it again. i have example, a good one. >> two boys having sex? >> no. so in martin county, florida,

republican district, there's a moms for liberty activist, julie marshall, the only person who has taken issue with nora roberts' novels, eight of them taken off the shelf. i think it was pedophilia or incest, rape, anything like that. >> you just called yourself out. you're choosing an example that studiously avoids the problem that they're targeting. >> no. >> you've got an exception. exception proves the rule. i just proved my point. >> that's not true. this is an example of the right being -- >> first you said one person. and nora roberts? >> everyone reads her. and judy blume, her novel about a teenage couple deciding if they want to have sex was taken off the shelf. this is low-level people getting up to governor desantis and saying make all of this happen. >> to a second grader? >> it's not in a second grader.

it's in a library where high school students were. >> yeah. >> didn't you read judy blume? >> governors taking desperate issues as residents flee crime-ridden cities.

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>> democrats getting creative to stop residents from fleeing from their cities as the irs data reveals a blue state exodos. new york, illinois and california are hemorrhaging high-earning residents to red states. greg, did eric adams offer you a job? >> no. would have been worse if he was begging for change, though. the irony it's the citizens begging for change. >> oh, i see what you did there. >> our politicians walk right by us and go not our problem, not our problem. can we all just move? can we just pick up and leave this state? please. i'll pay for the -- i'll pay for the u-hauls. >> and the houses? >> my dogs? >> yes. >> i just think, i admire eric

adams is not somebody who sits back and doesn't go and try to meet the people and do something. however, if your pitch is come to a place where you can't use gas stoves, we want to ban you from eating meat, and here's a free apple air tag to put in your car because when it's stolen we'll help you get it back. >> i can't say it better than that. the fact is blue states are losing people, tax dollars, and the red states are gaining them. i think he needs to understand, giving someone an air tag is not the answer to the problems we have in new york city and new york state. it just isn't. >> your thoughts, or if you want to tell everyone the fact jacket on judy blume is going? >> a mother in a county in florida got one jingle judy blume book banned from the library. >> from the library. >> all you care about is that. you didn't say anything when the

president of the united states was censored, or when millions of americans were censored over the lab leak or masks or judy blume. what about a million of americans banned from using their first amendment rights? >> yes. >> where were you then, jessica? >> yeah, okay. so good to have you back. "one more thing" is up next.

many. >> dana: before we get to one more thing. don't miss "special report" tonight right after "the five" benjamin hall has an exclusive interview with secretary of state antony blinken. i want to give a big shout-out to cousins of mine. first of all, quinton perino in new castle, wyoming. this kid is amazing a senior in high school. he won a state star farmer award

future farmers of america comp tilings in wyoming that's a big deal. they traveled to cheyenne to see him do that very proud of his achievements he will graduate next week and tell it b.j. this is another cousin also won an ffa star on agricultural placement. he works on the family ranch. he is going to figure out a way to go to college to rope. which i will explain to you, jesse, in the commercial break and return home to continue working on the ranch. congratulations, also, new podcast downloaded today it's with lauren fritz, just for you, greg. and it's actually your turn, greg. >> greg: you know what they say don't quint and tell. emily compagno, kat timpf, jason. we will cover the white house correspondents dinner. cover this quickly. ♪ animals are great ♪ animals are great ♪ >> here is sound of a puppy that

doesn't want to go to bed. >> time to go to sleep. >> stop. >> no more. >> what did i tell you? >> it's amazing. what that is what a french poodle does. they know -- they sound like an alien. >> dana: jesse, what do you have? >> jesse: ever since greg has been kind enough to sponsor the twins volleyball team on a hot streak. there is ellie serving up a big time ace. in the playoffs. undefeated. thank you again for your extreme generosity. >> greg: my pleasure. >> jesse: we have tonight "jesse watters primetime" johnny is up to the same old type of shenanigans. sent him to miami to ask a few questions. do we have a sneak peek? you are in florida what is the capital of florida? >> oh my gosh, you are making me feel stupid.

>> jesse: capital of florida is tallahassee, lady. >> dana: you are back. jessica? >> jessica: self-care transcends 9 human species. humpback whale spa day. australia recorded the giant mammals flipping on back in shallows area and using the sandy ocean floor to exfoliate their skin. nothing like scratching away that barnacle build up. >> dana: that's it for us. "special report" is up next. >> bret: we are all dealing with barnacle build up these days. good evening, welcome to "special report," i'm bret baier. breaking tonight president biden will negotiate after all. late this afternoon he invited the top four congressional leaders to talk about the debt ceiling and budget negotiations. this reverses his promise that he would never negotiate on that. it comes as his treasury secretary says the government could default on its debt as soon as one month from today. also tonight federal regulators have taken over