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are protesting the death of a homeless man who was placed in a choke hold by a former u.s. marine on a subway. the incident all caught on camera we have to warn you this video is disturbing. eye witnesses say a 30-year-old jordan nearly burst into an aggressive tirade during the train ride screaming and whipping garbage at several people before being put in the choke hold. police also confirmed that he had more than 40 prior arrests. the man who put him in a choke hold or was later taken into custody and eventually released without charges. the city's medical examiner has ruled neely's death as a homicide after he was subdued in the choke hold. alvin bragg was investigating the death and growing calls to charge a man with murder. far left democrat lawmakers are with rhetoric.

alexandria across jo cortez tweeting "he was murdered" another democrat declared that "another black man has been publicly executed. "in massachusetts ayanna pressley called his quote death a lynching. they were chanting "black lives matter" and justin's for jordan neely, and this. leap the police >> [bleep] the police! >> al sharpton is asking for this to be murder. he says the national charges of murder he says the national action network demands district attorney and police investigate this horrific incident as a potential case of manslaughter, if not murder. he brings up 30 years ago i fought the bernard goetz case

and we cannot end up back in a place where vigilantism is tolerable. it was not acceptable then and it cannot be acceptable now. a horrific incident that some argue is nothing like the situation. >> harris: i don't listen to anything they said you know why? tomorrow they'll be right back backing this soft on crime d.a. they all love. which will it be? will it be the black men killed the homeless on the subway that you support one day, 57-year-old black woman on the stairs who got her brains beaten out of her with a hammer hit 57 times but nobody says anything about that? there is no pressure on alvin bragg on certain things and a lot of pressure on the other. and then the mayor of the city. mayor adams, i just had on "the focus" we were talking about this, the mayor of the city, jason and i were talking then has the audacity to say oh, well, you know he calls his far left people wrong. he says to aoc it's

irresponsible to call this murder. i mean, they can't even get it together. i don't listen to any of them because they don't mean what they say. the pressure ought to just be on this d.a. to do his job. emily, you know better than anybody. doing your job means you take a look at this case. it's been rolled death by homicide and you move forward appropriately to get justice. those four people could stand on that platform forever and not see justice. the men who will adjudicate, who will decide how it will be adjudicated isn't getting pressure. coming, the mayor, i don't like how it is but of course he all things we are having a perceptional crime problem. >> emily: harris brings up just some of the horribly violent attacks in instances we have seen that have been caught on camera in the subway. where was the outrage then by the democrats? where was the outrage done by the left? why the outrage now? we all watched as this

33-year-old woman, elizabeth combs, was brutally beaten by homeless ex-con also in multiple recidivist as we see play out day after day. she is now blind in her right eye for the attack. we are member the horrific images of a time model after leaving a concert in november brutally attacked also in the subway after 44 prior arrests. no outrage then, why outrage n now? >> for alexandria ocasio-cortez she never passes up the chance to clean the spotlight for herself. she never misses the opportunity to use a tragedy for her own self promotion. this is no different. i will note that the met gallo was on monday. she, not in attendance because she got into ethics trouble for attending the one back in 2021. so, there in may be her

motivation here for standing and calling this murder. but she has run into problems before saying the shoplifting was because impoverished mothers were stealing baby formula. that is a lie too. this is organized crime. she has constantly not stood up for law-abiding citizens. where has she been in the past in standing up for these victims or the goldman sachs worker who was murdered on a subway car going to brunch? on a sunday. i live in new york city and these are dangerously mentally ill people who you encounter in broad daylight on the street every weekend. i have to run away from these individuals coming up across the street and dodge them because they will attack you. unprovoked for no reason. but, sitting in a subway car, you are doing this, looking down. do you move? you are trapped. but what has happened, there has

been a breakdown in the rule of law. for the last three years. it has been a free-for-all. the first duty of government is to protect the people. the people in new york state in new york city do not do that. so there has been a rise in vigilantism. this is what happens because people are not protected. and the reason these people are on the street, the dangerously mentally ill and the drug and alcohol addicted is because there are no beds for the mentally ill. since the mid-50s, the number of state hospital beds has fallen by 97%. they have to be hospitalized and they are not. until they start putting people in lockup and treated, this will never improve. >> emily: contrast aoc's comments now with what she said november, watch. >> subway crime is up, but let's also note that subway crime is up after they committed so many more officers to the subway

system. that tells us from a policy perspective adding more cops to the subway isn't solving the problem. there are other things i can solve this problem. >> emily: it seems it is not a solved problem, david. again, why the outrage now? >> david: your background and the justice area tells you personal security is a basic human value. when americans or humans don't feel safe they will take action themselves. as much as the governor and the mayor are trying to put money into more police on the subway they are not putting enough. and whatever else they are spending money on here in new york they ought to think about putting it more into keeping people safe. harris hit a very key point. if we are going to have justice in this particular situation and just across the board, we have to have public prosecutors that don't want to prosecute in public. they want to find out all the details and get to the bottom of it.

that's what lays at alvin bragg's feet right now is he has to be a prosecutor looking to enforce the law. >> emily: without that, kay kaylee, it rings out this outreach. protest on the streets where were protests on behalf of elizabeth combs and that poor model and countless others we don't have time for to list? there is knee-jerk outrage now in silence before what are your thoughts? >> kayleigh: your right to to point out that disparity that exists, it's a tragedy any time a is lost. jordan really had a lot of tragedy in his own life, his mom was murdered and her body found in a suitcase on the side of the bronze highways a lot of human tragedy all the way around here. we have to look at the facts any time a case like this happens. here are the facts, it was multiple passengers restraining the individual and aoc says and describes jordan neely as house list and crying for food. she leaves out the other part of the comment that was allegedly said which was i don't mind going to jail or getting life in prison, i'm ready to die. at this point these are the only

facts we know. it really is the height of irresponsibility for anyone to come out and use the word "murderer" before we know all the facts. i applaud mayor adams, it will be very easy for him to feed into this narrative and he chose not to and basically said you know i will quote him directly he said "i don't think that's very responsible at a time we are still invest getting the situation" and he referred to the d.a. and said they will come to the determination. in this country we rely on the justice system to handle a sad situation like this because it is sad. we rely on having fair-minded people determine the result of the case. in alvin bragg's new york city i don't trust the district attorney to get addresses. this is someone who locked up a 61-year-old man, dad of three, bodega worker who acted in lawful self-defense and he put him in rikers island. i do not trust district attorney to get to the fact here and that is sad when we don't have a justice system we can rely on a new york city. >> do know who knows that? the mayor. it would be nice if the

democrats did because as kayleigh just told us human lives are at stake. >> emily: absolutely. coming up hunter may not be the only biden that needs to be concerned about criminal charges. a new whistle-blower and what they have to say about the president, that is next.

>> kayleigh: as they wonder whether or not to charge hunter biden, there may be more. there is proof apparently that biden accepted bribes as vice president. "new york post" says a clock is ticking for joe briben.

they want to see the fbi documents that they say "describes an alleged criminal scheme involving then vice president biden in a foreign national relating to the exchange of money for policy decisions." it is been alleged the document includes how the scheme was employed as well as the purposes. the council office is firing back saying this, we are going on five years now are republicans and congress have been lobbying on unfounded unproven politically motivated and taxed against the president and his family without offering evidence for the claims or evidence of decisions influenced by anything other than what was interesting. when it comes to president biden's personal finances anyone could take a look, he has offered an unprecedented level of transparency, they say. releasing a total of 25 years of tax returns to the american public. harris, that statement from the white house goes on to say a separate statement not from the counsel's office for the press

office, they say this is like floating anonymous innuendo to which i respond this document exists, it's at the fbi, okay, release the document, very simple. of its just innuendo shows the document. very simple. >> harris: i had a democrat on my part panel yesterday who said release what you've got, subpoena people and i said even the president? yeah, sipping everybody. this is hurting joe biden now. he may have to stay in the basement perpetuity. so it's time for everybody to see what there is to see. ft 1023 is a document. that form shows who was being interviewed by the fbi and whether or not there are some things we ought to know in there. that's what they are asking for. they wanted in six days from now i believe. so just put it out there, christopher wray, director of the fbi, how hard is that? by the way are republicans are saying it's not classified. so we will know what is in it eventually anyway. let's do it in a timely fashion.

democrats are also feeling the pressure of this drip, drip, drip. biden's numbers 37% approval rate, they do every morning. that's not good come after 20 days on the road talking about the economy. that's the answer, so he doesn't need this on top of that along with the new whistle-blower who, by the way, we don't know the identity but we know it's not the same as the irs whistle-blower we just heard from last month against biden. >> that's right. and emily, this would be explosive, a breakthrough moment because we have heard so far is basically the big guy, we've heard a lot about trump, the big guy, james gilliard said the big guy was supposed to get a 10% cut, told me bob linsky also said the big guy is joe biden, we know there is a grand jury testament that says that but it's all in hunter biden's finances. this allegation is a direct link if it turns out to be the watershed document they think it is between biden accepting money for a political favor.

if that is the case, that is a big breaker. >> emily: that's entirely right in this allegedly was during his vice presidency so he doesn't enjoy the immunity that for example people like to throw around when things are discussed or a legend about the last two years. i want to point out as well how important this is for all of us as american citizens that congressional oversight. so obviously they have subpoenaed the fbi, this document they say is in your hands. they say it includes as you said a precise description of how exactly this criminal act occurred. all of the details about it. and senator grassley said what we don't know is if anything the fbi did anything to verify these claims or investigate further. he went on to say the fbi's recent history of botching politically charged investigations demands close congressional oversight. so i think, for all of us were hoping that regardless of the outcome it is a fair and thorough investigation, that is what we can rely on finally with

the g.o.p. in control of congress that not the ends to a means will be justified but there will be a complete dedication to uncovering the full truth. i can say right now it doesn't look good for biden. >> kayleigh: i will say comber and grassley have said, and they have not seen the documents but they do trust the credibility of the whistle-blower. they are relying on this really secondhand information from a third party. >> dagen: and i know senator grassley said he hopes this document does not become classified. >> harris: can they do that? >> emily: mike >> kayleigh: yes. >> harris: or they could be stonewalling. >> dagen: christopher wray could say this is part of an ongoing investigation. and i was texting with andy mccarthy and he said if the fbi says they can't reveal

this document, the critical thing is for congressman comer to keep pushing and pushing and pushing and pushing. to illustrate to the american people that there is stonewalling going on. and that they are on top of t this. but, as andy has said time and again, and it keeps coming up about potential crimes, crime is not what's important here when it comes to joe biden. its corruption. you don't have to prove a crime. and to move the focus away from the criminal activity, just the idea all along is andy mccarthy has said the one barack obama as president put joe biden in a main role as a point man for america foreign policy to certain regimes, people around those regimes suddenly thought it was expedient to their interest to pay millions of dollars to the biden family, to hunter biden in

the biden family members, what did they think they were buying? that's the issue and that is the corruption and that was the direct quote from andy. >> kayleigh: i think that it's brilliantly said. it's about the corruption. returning to the hunter biden investigation, "the washington post" saying their decision-making in the near future on this. they previously reported the attacks violation could be lying on a gun form for instance, but that irs whistle-blower you mention, his testimony pertained to the hunter biden investigation. he saying the administration has interfered in his process. >> david: may i represent the steele dossier as exhibit a that verify is very important, we must verify these facts even though whistle-blower facts. if there is something there that needs to be prosecuted, but how does this particularly impact the biden administration? the more you have to focus on scandal, the less you are focusing on the border. the less you are focusing on all

of what we are facing because white house gets consumed with protecting the boss and that's where this is right now. >> kayleigh: that's right and while republicans say this is important to focus on we still need to make those cases on the economy, the border, and the american public at a very important election next november. coming up america's adversaries set their sights on expanding fleets, the navy is looking to a drag queen to boost recruitment numbers, that's next. ♪ ♪ homeowners to combat today's rising prices. lower your monthly payments with the three c's: pay down your credit cards, pay off your car loan, consolidate your debt with a va home loan from from newday. ♪ ♪ - why are these so bad? - if i would've used kayak to book our car, we could have saved on our trip instead of during our trip.

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♪ ♪ >> harris: friday eve, people, come on. the u.s. navy is facing backlash over its decision to use a drag queen influencer to help

attract young recruits. he is a sailor that goes by the stage main happy daniels and holds the name of the first digital ambassador. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ who is she ♪ ♪ ♪ >> harris: apparently it's harpy daniels. anyway, america's adversaries including china are expanding their fleets, the naval forces ramped up with drills over those shipping lanes and over that country. one china, member that. david, your reaction? >> david: if you come from a strong military family would not one of your family members ever got in the army because there anything other than patriots who wanted to protect this country. imago win wars. that's a part of the military.

you get trained to win wars and defeat the enemy. when the message gets skewed from that you are ultimately getting folks for all the wrong reasons. or when they get into a battle there was a really quickly with the military is about. >> harris: let's dig deeper, what message does is put out? i'm confused. is the message that you too can do a smoky eye? what is the message here? were they talking to a question mark >> david: i'm not sure anyone in the battlefield will be dressed like that as they prepare. >> harris: they will get shot. he had to in camel. >> david: it's missing the point. the biden demonstration is doubling down saying you don't have to be a robot to be in the military. all you have to be a fighter. >> harris: amen to that. dagan. >> dagen: this isn't about the person, this is about the navy and our military. and the bigger problem. it kind of exemplifies why recruitment is down.

because the military has become about the individual and self-expression. not about individual submission. to the larger goal. and the sacrifice. and the giving in to a higher cause. it has been turned on its head. that's why the faith, have faith in the military is down. if you look at what our army has become, all of the training vignettes, they are teaching commanders in the military in the army how to discuss with a service man his newly confirmed pregnancy. you can go through all of these training modules, i'm not making this. i just raise the issue with the navy, what is the new slogan here? find the me in team? that's really what it is. that's the broader problem. >> harris: we are really

easily destroyed when focus on ourselves and not winning the war as you said, david. are never seen that look on your face. [laughter] >> emily: abject confusion paired i'm a navy military brat. this breaks my heart because to dagan's point and yours in missing the point and also discarding essentially every single person that is in the navy faithfully that is trying to do their job so well to the best of their abilities and yet keep getting distracted by it, ignored by, prioritized over things like this. right? this woke attachment that absolutely pierces any type of readiness. and the u.s. navy has recently been through a lot of issues. we all remember that lieutenant alcon a situation that was highlighted by biden himself at a state of the union. given that navy recruitment is down so low given our readiness has been questioned, the fate has been undermined reflected and pulls across the country

certainly without help from the far left i think it would behoove the u.s. navy to ramp up their messaging and why we should join why should we should support why they are the number one navy in the whole globe. rather than here is how you do a smoky eye. >> harris: do you remember that ship that was taken and they made a statue out of our men in a capitulated guns drawn position? i think it w was a rainy and forces, dear member that? this was only a couple of years ago. they had taken our ship, our men were told to get on their knees and then on short and around they made the statue. we cannot capitulate. we cannot voluntarily and even not talking about an enemy holding a gun to our heads, we are not, we are just giving up. >> kayleigh: this drag queen, i guess harpy is the name. >> harris: harpy daniels. >> kayleigh: he says he is not

had any harassment except in an air force base there were supposed to be a drag show and it caused an uproar too many conservatives and christian extremists is what the drag queen said. this is 1 of 6 people who have been chosen to be a digital ambassador. 70% of our military according to an article i read in the national journal of medicine identifies as christian. so the person you are choosing to be ambassador talks about the military as conservative and christian extremists? that 70% of the military so this person is not representative of what the military stands for. not only that i point to the joint chiefs with evidence of the drag shows, matt gaetz did it and millie said i was unaware of these drag shows occurring and went on to say i don't agree with those events. i think those events should not be happening. is millie a christian extremists? none of this makes sense, none of it. >> harris: are they listening to him? no. where they listening to? coming up some of hollywood's

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the report identified the beverly hills based climate emergency fund as a major donor for many extreme climate coalitions. including the group responsible for tossing soup over a priceless van gogh painting. and the protesters who stopped a busy highway in rome. as well as protesters who disrupted last year's tennis french open by gluing their hands to the court's net, make sense, right? the examiner report claims the climate emergency fund isn't just a small-time charity but actually being backed a loaded field of left-wing donors and hollywood stars. some of those donors reportedly include jeremy strong, and comedian chelsea handler among others. dagan, do you think these hot celebs are not flying on their private jets as they fund radical climate extremism? >> dagen: they are trying to hide it, clearly, because maybe something goes wrong and someone gets hurt with one of these little cutesy stunts.

at some point they don't want their money trail leading back to them potentially. but they are elitist climate crusading bigots. to use the language of the left. what they are doing from a position of power and prosperity is racist. let me finish. it's straight to john kerry. they are worried about the climate warming by a couple of degrees by 2100. but they are telling all of sub sahara africa you are not allowed to develop fossil fuels. you need to live in abject poverty. they don't have clean water to drink. they are telling people in sub-saharan africa straight from john kerry you are not allowed to develop your own fossil fu fuels, you are not allowed to

essentially turn the lights on and move into the modern world. you need to stay impoverished and end of dark. that by its very definition is elitist, it's bigoted, it's racist, and it's immoral. that's what they stand for, all of them. i would try to hide my money too but they are doing it here. >> harris: no gas so everyone has to do it electric and the people that get caught up are in democrat led urban cities. i mean, think about the people you pointed this out with the whole thing with rice, we can't eat as much rice well what about all of those asian restaurants? again, with the gas stoves? cooking with an open flame. >> kayleigh: what about half of the world's population? when you are talking about rights, i just want to applaud the "washington examiner," they called us a coordinated campaign and they literally lay out every climate organization in these

extremist actions and get the money back to this one entity. a lot of times they watch these things happen and it's like how is this happening so widespread? to extract on another issue like how are all of these books and libraries across the nation how our parents being shut out in states like florida all the way to california? the coordinated aspect i really applaud them for getting to the bottom i wish they would look at other issues. >> david: most americans would take the protest over the policies and harris mention one, getting rid of gas stoves, and minnesota and rhode island they are talking about getting rid of gas powered lawn mowers. we now have the military that wants to go to electric vehicles. to transport troops. those policies are pretty destructive but you know, the shocker about all of this? what was brought up that we would get rid of gas stoves they were like no! you are all being silly we will never get rid of gas stoves. and yet new york state just yesterday passed a bill to get rid of gas stoves. >> kayleigh: and emily they are also making a policy

different because one of these youth led organizations that was funded was responsible for the protest at joe manchin's boat that led to him changing his vote you could argue. did that have an effect? i don't know only he could answer that but it's having policy effect. >> kayleigh: that's important point to make because i think we seen drastically a foray into that so it used to be to that point which is brilliant that there is a luxury essentially that a lot of these people had by being able o bankroll these extremist organizations by calling for no gas stoves and no cars and no rice but if you care about or want to do something to affect it legislatively rather than under bidding to destruction of society and being able to just throw dollar bills and something? to your point is having an effect, this radicalization has absolutely permeated policy as well. that's why impart it so frightening. hypocrisy is alive and well, harris, to your point when the majority say the far left are

experiencing in this globe starvation and food insecurity, rice is one of the main foodstuffs to combat that, and they say no rice? it also begs a question for coordination. every time you see mass protests it's always coordinated. therefore ask yourself where the funding coming from? you talked about heaven forbid if an entry happens, what about sean tillman? minnesota defense fund, that was an accused murderer who was released. every time we see policies and money surging toward something important politically, that has potentially dire consequences, you can bet on the other side there is the super wealthy, drastically radical, coke leftists. >> kayleigh: that's right and you see this in red states where you have governors against it. coming up we have been warned artificial intelligence could harm society, leave to this information and take our jobs, and our say ai systems can read your mind. scary, more on that next.

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white house press session. a lot of big items could be coming up, we will listen and plus another bank in major trouble after the president and the federal reserve chair about the banking system in this country is safe and sound, so what is going on? charles payne and hit, carrie kudlow will come in and a pentagon briefing as well as the top of the 2:00 hour as russian claims the u.s. is behind the throne attack. former defense secretary and jack keane will join us live. come join us america reports top of the hour. ♪ ♪ ♪ barracuda ♪ >> harris: happening, ai is starting to read our minds. researchers at the university of texas at austin have created an artificial intelligence system which can translate a person's

brain activity into plain readable language. it relies on mri machines to read someone's brain waves. the ai cannot develop a word for word translation yet, but it can capture the gist of your thoughts. so now, kayleigh, i can't even be thinking about somebody, neighbor, whatever because somebody will be able to tell that we don't like them? just a hypothetical. >> kayleigh: if only you knew what i thought about you during the day. kidding. [laughter] our thoughts are no longer private, no, i love you guys. but it's interesting to me it supposed to be used on stroke victims or people who cannot speak and that's a good purpose but imagine what this would mean for criminal law and the presumption of innocence, just read someone's thoughts for the battlefield, capturing the hostile soldier and the fact you can read their mind and get intelligence. or like an authoritarian state you can just put this on your citizens and you know what they are thinking about for your resume like in china. scary. >> harris: so in china it's

band. >> emily: i thought it was so fascinating is the gist already sounds rudimentary but it's really accurate. they had in this study someone who was thinking i don't know my driver's license yet and the extrapolation was i'm not yet ready to drive. it's remarkably close, but the devil is in the details. to all of those points, kayleigh, what if it is slightly off? in criminal court and what if it is like i didn't do it but it's slightly similar like all the vagueness that is frightening to enter your point, harris, i can't imagine if the machine operator was like emily what you think about this and i was like nice pants or whatever. [laughter] i'm sorry, i'm sorry! >> harris: david? >> david: my wife is been reading my thoughts for years. this will not be new to me. although, on the serious side, all of this ai is talking about how dramatically different life is going to be. gears and the change that is about to occur. government being able to keep up

as they set guardrails and policies every day. it seems like we are learning something new. >> harris: is so big and bloated now i can even do anything simplistic like a tech to border. government is something very different. >> david: in a lot of ways we are still in the 1990s of the 1950s. for the change that has to happen for the advancement that has to happen we really do need leaders that are forward thinking and are working with the tech community to make sure we are putting in place the guardrails to take all the advantages that ai brings, but yet protect us from the bad. >> harris: will you run? >> david: absolutely not. [laughter] >> harris: dagan? >> dagen: that brings up elon musk came out and said we need all of a sudden who was in favor of regulation, because him getting involved in regulation and benefits him he is behind in

artificial intelligence. and getting the regulators involved and him putting his hands and it will let him catch up to a google. and a microsoft. and i digress. but i love this story because this highlights despite the headlines being like a i read your mind is actually about health care. is about the advancements that could let people who are paralyzed say even who have lou gehrig's disease would be able to speak and communicate directly with people. because i look at ai through the prism and the lens of all of the incredible things that artificial intelligence is doing right now. like genetic testing on brain cancer within 90 seconds, which killed my brother-in-law. so advancements there i cheer them. >> harris: amazing, i'm sorry. >> dagen: it's all right.

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music, a verdict reached in the ed sheeran trial. we don't know yet what the verdict is, jurors were deliberating when the pop star copied music chords from the classical marvin gaye "let's get it on" with his song "thinking out loud." it took two and a half hours to reach the verdict and we have a producer in the courtroom, so we'll continue to get updates and as we do, we'll bring them to you. but in the meantime, emily, tell me about the case. i understand that the plaintiffs are alleging differences between the chord progression, the harmonic rhythm and certain melodies, in two songs. >> emily: that's right, and sheeran's legal team argued there was enough difference to beat the copyright infringement allegation and common elements found in a lot of pop songs.

i want viewers to understand as well this is the marvin gaye family, the estate, they also sued successfully, remember, robin thicke and pharrell williams in 2018 and resulted in a $5 million judgment upheld after they appealed. so that song, however, was against -- that was a different song "got to give it up," but here, it's "let's get it on." so dagen, the why because marvin gaye's family protects the copyright. >> copyright and trademark law, correct me if i'm wrong, you have to continue to try to protect copyrights and trademarks. if you don't, later on someone can say you didn't stand up and protect it and you let people use it. you can't then after the fact come after someone. >> harris: it's got to be

exhausting, how many chords there are. >> kayleigh: ed sheeran said in the song writing community, everyone knows four chords primarily used and eight notes and we work with that, we've got to. interesting perspective from ed sheeran. >> harris: hard to defend either side. ed sheeran, we should know shortly what the verdict is going to do. thanks, "america reports" now. >> john: harris, thank you. begin with the continuing fox news alert, a verdict reached in the ed sheeran copyright case, at issue "thinking out loud" and similarities to "let's get it on." >> sandra: we do not have the verdict, we know it's in. as soon as we know, we will bring it to you. >> john: fox news alert to kick us off this thursday, stocks sliding as fears grow over more regional banks on the brink of