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place to go. you can plan your visit. plan the tours of churchill downs. love to have you come and explore. so much more to explore about this amazing horse. >> janice: happy oaks day. derby tomorrow. we will be covering it of course for "fox & friends." we will be outside for the next hour. got more interviews, more mint juleps and lillys, all sorts of fun. you know i love the fashion and you all look wonderful in new york. back to you. >> brian: great job. i'm just checking my watch. second hour of "fox & friends" starts right now. ♪ ♪ on the throne ♪ we will pop champagne ♪ and raise a toast ♪ to all of the queens along
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♪ baby, you're not dancing on your own ♪ >> rachel: good morning, this is a live shot from london. it's 12:00 p.m. over there across the pond. but it is 7:00 here in new york city. and good to be here with both of you. we're going to bring in our colleague martha mccallum who is going to give us more information about what's happening in london. she is going to be there all weekend. we're going to have her covering the coronation tomorrow during the morning hours as well. martha, good morning. >> martha: good morning, guys. good to be with you. >> rachel: good to be with you. what can we expect to see? >> well, you know, this is the first time that this has happened in 70 years. i know there have been three big royal events over the course of this year. we had the jubilee and then very kind of unexpectedly the funeral just a few months after that of queen elizabeth. now we have the coronation of king charles iii which is going to happen here tomorrow at
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westminster, abby. he was just four years old when he witnessed his mother's own coronation. so he has been waiting for this job for 70 long years. and there's a lot of drama in between then and now, including the fact that now queen camilla will be at his side after everyone remembers the fairy tale wedding to diana and birth of their two boys and fairy tale split wide open. they are trying to put it all back together and get the royal family on the right page tomorrow and hope that they can allow this all monarchy to continue here. >> brian: i know you are going monarchy crazy there i don't know how much hunter biden talk is over there in london. [laughter] >> brian: it hit hyper speed a little bit, martha, as we find find out now about the recruitment letter. michael morell that put out, for example, to john brennan and it's pretty amazing considering the impact of it how simple it was. simply said -- by the way, he simply said this: we want to give the v.p. a talking point to
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use in response. and what is he talking about the debate that was coming up, the story about the laptop, they wanted to tell everyone it was not legitimate. and he says and john breneman's retort was sign me up. so then suddenly joe biden says 51 intel agents say the laptop is classic russian disinformation. you remember that debate. what kind of effect did that 51 intel agents have on that debate on that point? >> i sure do remember that night. i was in the room. and it was a big moment because everybody was wondering what kind of impact hunter biden's laptop might have on the coming election. and it's really stunning, brian and rachel and lawrence. when you look back at this and you read these documents. you look at these emails and you see this coordination going on and the reason it's so stunning is because these former cia directors and the rest of these officials basically did this on a hunch, right? and a desire to, quote, help biden win in the election. remember at the same time,
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remember, in october of 2020 you had john ratcliffe the current director of national intelligence saying that there was no indication that there was anything on that laptop that was russian information. he believed that it was exactly what it appeared to be the laptop full of images and emails and things that were quite sand luz for the president's obviously troubled son. will. >> lawrence: martha, what does this mean for the press? they took them at their word. there was curiosity to dig into the story. they actually suppressed the story and took these talking points as well. >> martha: yeah, think back to the "new york post" who broke this story, and it was taken down in coordination on social media feeding into russian disinformation notion. did they want to be part of' mike morell called a campaign he didn't use that campaign but
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effort, i think, is fair to help president biden, to help vice president biden become president biden. and i think it just -- you know, you see why it even here we see people wondering about institutions and the faith they have in them. clearly that's a huge issue at home in the united states there is a story hit people hard acceptance that really officials that we consider to be prestigious willing to sign on to something when they really didn't have any evidence that it pointed in the direction of russian disinformation. >> rachel: martha, they said this letter was to help joe biden. there's a lot of polling that shows that if people had known about this when they went to the ballot box, or had known it was true, they would not have voted for joe biden. and i think it says something like 14% it could have changed the election, many people would argue, based on that polling. but, i guess the question i have is why would 51 intelligence
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officers want joe biden to win and not donald trump? why were they so interested in helping joe biden vs. trump? i think that's a question that needs to be answered. and the other one, martha, is, you know, what is the impact on our faith in institutions? i mean, i know f for myself, i don't trust our intelligence agencies anymore. i'm done with them. > >> martha: well, you know, it's a very serious breach. and you would think these individuals would feel so strongly about their own reputations that they would never put them on the line if they didn't have a very strong sense. now, they can pick apart this letter and say well, we thought it had all the earmarks of russian disinformation and maybe they can seek to distance themselves with some sentences in there that make it sound like they weren't 100 percent sure. but the impact is clear. the impact that they were handing him this talking point on the debate stage and the impact as you say of voters who say, gee, i might have thought
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differently about it. when you look at it. presidential elections in the u.s. these days come down to 100,000 plus votes in a few states. >> brian: martha, he knew it was a lie when he said it. he knew it was son's laptop. he knew those emails were his. they knew they were his own. he knew everything on that was real. they knew about all the addiction, the photos, everything that took place. he had no problem looking in the camera and telling the american people worldwide audience that 51 intel agents session this is russian disinformation when it wasn't. a side note, it also poisons the relations further poisons the relations between the u.s. and russian. because you know who else knew it wasn't russian disinformation in the russians. so, we don't want to let foreign policy play a role in this or anything. buff let's talk about why you are there. we have a newly unearthed got that shows 1953, a young future king kind of bored at his mom's coronation.
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how did they hold this back so long? >> i think that's been out there. he was, you know, i think he was not quite 5 years old at that point. so, very young to be sitting -- it was a four hour ceremony. kids will get a little bit of a break this time along. only two hours. i think it's kind of a cute picture. because, you know, it's definitely human needs charles, which there has been a lot of effort to do over the last several years and sort of show the, you know, more human, softer side of now king charles. so i think it's a funny picture. george, obviously, william and kate's son is going to participate in this. he is 9 years old. quite mature. and i would imagine that, you know, we may get a few faces and moments of photos of those kids from as well tomorrow. all children get bored at these things eventually. >> brian: what i just found out they just informed him at that moment he will have to wait 70 years to be king so he was a little upset. [laughter] >> martha: who knew, brian, you
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are such an insider. that's a great scoop. way to go. >> brian: i'm sure i had a second source. [laughter] >> lawrence: so martha, you, ainsley and piers are going to be doing special coverage of the coronation 5:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. eastern time. thanks so much, martha. >> martha: looking forward to it. great to be with you guys. >> brian: martha always wanted to host a morning show and she finally will. >> martha: you know that about me, brian, right? i don't like it that early. >> brian: last time your husband warned me whatever happens i don't want my wife doing a morning show it's too early. >> you don't want to see her before coffee. it's not a good thing. >> brian: thanks, martha, appreciate it. >> you guys are awesome. thanks so much. bye-bye. >> rachel: we are really looking forward tomorrow being with you. >> brian: bret baier had a great interview last night with jim harbaugh the head coach of michigan. surprised at the topic but hearing him talk how committed he was. always focus on the big sports
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stars and big signing day and go to a big school and exciting even if you are a stupidity. what about those who choose the skills and the trade and to have a major coach. maybe the most famous coach in college football, top 5, go ahead and emphasize signing day for those signing up for skillings and the trades. that was so important last night. almost stuff you see mike rowe doing. and if you don't want to say anything i will toss to the soundbite. >> lawrence: i was waiting. >> brian: let's listen. >> my dad always told my brother john and myself, you know, when it comes to 18 years old, you're going to be off the books. so, you need something after high school. you need education after high school, whether it's 2 year college, 4 year college, trade school, or the military. one of those four, you two boys will be going into when you are 18 or have graduated from high school because you're not going to be on the books here anymore.
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that's really when i was speaking to the students about today. the importance of grit, tenacity, hard work and how that's going to benefit them now and for the rest of their lives. same thing that i tell our football players on the football field. >> rachel: financial independence is very important. my father, when he graduated from high school was told you can go into the military, can you go work in the mines, he lived in a town where a lot of people went and worked in the copper mines, he chose the military. but, as a minority family, financial independence is especially important because there are a lot of forces trying to control you and make you part of their system. part of the democrat party. financial independence is the secret to the american dream. and it's really great to see people talking about it. >> lawrence: also, college just isn't for everyone. it's just not. i don't understand why some people get these social science degrees and they get in so much debt and they are never going to be able to pay it back.
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>> rachel: yeah. >> lawrence: i think this is a smart move. back home in garland, texas where i'm from right outside of dallas. a lot of the high schools now are offering trades. so the kids that don't want to go college, they can be auto body tech. they can be hair and beauty. nails and all that type of stuff. i think it's great for society. >> brian: right. i love because the perception was well, if you can't go -- if your grades aren't good go to the trades. we have to change that perception that if you don't go college maybe the parents feel they aren't successful parents because they want their kids to aspire and go to the next level. now with the money they are paying and perception changing, mike rowe for the first time who had the same message as jim harbaugh i feel optimistic people are recognizing the trades again, because he is able to give out his scholarships for those kids who want to be able to use their hands. >> rachel: you know, brian, when sean was in congress. he came from a manufacturing town, which is where we lived at the time. and part of the effort to recruit young people was you have got to talk to the parents because of exactly what you said. it's usually the parents who are
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nervous about letting their kids go into the trades because they feel like it's not press tinge just enough or might not make enough money. i have been thinking a lot how this administration is trying to transition our entire economy, which is totally unrerealistic o electric. we don't have enough electricians right now let alone for a transition. >> brian: we don't have enough mechanics. no more using your instinct and going in there and figuring it out. because if you don't go to training, every six weeks, you come back to the dealership and you don't even know what you are doing on these new cars. >> lawrence: so true. >> brian: they can't get people to do it. they say for every five plumbers that retire, only one goes back in the workforce. >> rachel: i believe that. >> brian: let's go up to ashley strohmier who will not be a plumber. we are glad that she is a news person. >> ashley: i don't even know how to respond to that. >> lawrence: what a toss.
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>> rachel: you know what you are doing that is more important than a newscaster you are growing a baby human. we're happy for you. >> ashley: i am growing a child. thank you so much. i'm not going to be a plumber. i don't know that that would be my thing, brian. thank you. we are going to start your headlines with this. protesters taking over the streets of new york city last night. they are calling on manhattan d.a. alvin bragg to prosecute the marine veteran involved in the chokehold death of a homeless man on a subway train. new york city mayor eric adams is calling for calm as authorities investigate but congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez was quick to label the death of jordan neely, a, quote, public murder. apple co-founder steve wozniak is sounding the alarm about the possible dangers of a.i. watch this. >> artificial intelligence is only going to be at the perusal of humans. now, there are bad actors in the human world that try to trick us. a.i. can construct content but it also has horrible problems. some like hallucinations. takes a side we know is totally
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inaccurate. >> ashley: he warns that a.i. could further divide our country and more harmful than potential impact on jobs and the economy. april jobs report comes out in just over an hour. experts are predicting a rise in the unemployment rate to 3.6%. forecasts show hiring is set to increase by 180,000. that's down from 236,000 in march. job growth has fallen every month since the start of the year. and it is cinco de mayo. the annual holiday commemorates mexico's 1862 victory in the battle of pen blah over the second french empire second day parades, all night parties and mariachi bands. let's hit it, guys. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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war. if he really wants to see security there on the continent, he could have his troops pull out of ukraine right now and end this thing all together. >> brian: what they are referring to is the fact that the u.s. gets blamed for that attack on a flag pole. the kremlin claims the u.s. coordinated the drone attack in moscow. there are no leads this morning on who was behind the strike. the ukrainians deny it, too. let's bring in the four star general himself, fox news general strategic analyst, of course, general jack keane. general, how significant was that drone attack and do you think it could be a false flag operation? >> yeah, well, we have looked at the institute for the study of war and, first of all, no one knows who did this. so, we're left to do some analysis on what facts are in front of us. and when you look at it, it looks like the russians created this event, a so-called false flag operation. and, why is that? well the pattern of behavior here in terms of what took place, doesn't fit, ukrainian
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playbook. they seek damage. and there's no real damage here. this is done by drones that are commercially available as well as being slightly armed to inflict minimal damage. second, it is so well-framed for filming, brian, and look at it, i mean, you couldn't create anything better than this. and the russians came out relatively quickly to say that this was an assassination attempt on putin and everybody knows that putin doesn't sleep in the pentagon, except if he has got a crisis going on. obviously he is going to stay there going on during the night. the other thing is the ukrainians never comment and accept accountability for attacks that have been made in russia or in crimea. and they didn't even accept responsibility for the kentucky the kershbridge. they have denied being involved in this right from the
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beginning. so, that's kind of what we think the russians created. why are they creating it what happened this w. this may 19th intradges coming up. their victory over the nazi germany in world war ii. the harsh reality is russia has failed miserably in ukraine with ground forces and air campaign as we begin to look towards the ukrainian gathering momentum now and starting their offensive operation how close are they to having the armments and strategy to move forward on the counteroffensive that we expected this spring? do they have enough tanks and munitions? what have the europeans done? >> the ukrainians will tell you they never have enough but they got -- they got a fair amount of what they wanted. they wanted 300 tanks. they got 250. they got about 1500-plus armored
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vehicles that are not tanks. and most of that has come from the europeans. and that's commendable. in terms of that and, actually, the training of tens of thousands of ukrainians in preparation for this, while the united states did some strange of ukrainians, the europeans did most of it. and while we continue to harp on the fact that the united states is the only country really providing significant aid to the ukrainians, it just isn't true. i mean when you look at the percentage of g.d.p. there is about five or so countries that provide more support as a percentage of the wealth that's available in a country than the united states. so it's an unfair characterize to say to europeans aren't in this. they are really in it. and they understand fully that russia russia needs to be defeated in ukraine now. >> brian: bring to you this quote with 20 seconds left. our dni director avril haines stated the russian portions are
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unable to likely conduct a significant offensive in all of 2023. does the institute of the study of war believe that, too? >> yes, based on the facts that we have had, which is pretty alarming. putin mobilized about 300,000 con scripts and reservists. trained them up in belarus and then put them into existing forces. some of his very best forces to be frank they conducted an offensive over the last two and a half months. that offensive was designed to take the donbas. this is the second time they have tried to take it. they tried to do it at the end of last year and failed. they have failed. in that mission. we don't see them being able to generate any significant osceola capability. even if they mobilize more forces to do so. why is that? because they are putting those forces into units that are poorly led. they have low morale. they are not -- and not properly trained. we don't have the will to fight.
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that is an element of success. when you lack that, it's very hard to succeed. >> brian: general jack skeen thanks so much. should be a good spring tort ukrainians. we are pulling for it. thank you. >> have great weekend you and the team. >> brian: such a perfect transition to what is happening this weekend. coming up at 8:00 at 8:00 p.m. saturday night please join she will herd leading the a.i. push and the security needed. richard dreyfus. legendary actor on set with me. douglas murray put everything in perspective that we have been going over. especially this cases in new york with the subway and homeless person that lost his life along with pat i can't you think garr sar gone. joe matchy, one of the key. we will find out what greg get if you would still ahead on this show he hiding gender transition from parents.
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>> ashley: we are back with your headlines are starting with this. a suspect in custody in connection with with the murder of a 29-year-old woman hold body was found on hiking trail in phoenix over the weekend. lauren hikey was attacked from behind on friday. police found the suspect after releasing the surveillance video. he was arrested at this apartment located just one mile from the trail. lauren hikey was only 2 # years old. jp morgan chase ceo jamie dimon larry page will be deposed at the end of the month over alleged links to jeffrey epstein. the depositions are expected to last for two days. epstein allegedly trying to recruit page client of jp morgan. u.s. vir jirn islands where epstein owned an island is suing for unspecified damages. they are accusing the firm of benefiting from sex trafficking by the late financier
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massachusetts college banning the world field from programs. smith college for social work changed the name of their offers of field education to the office of patrol car couple learning. the college says the move is intended to represent their commitment to anti-racist work. putting out this statement sfw center live historical experiences of black indigenous and other communities of color. we recognize that language is powerful and that phrases such as going into the field or field work may hold negative associations. and those are your headlines. >> lawrence: oh, stop it. thanks, ashley. >> ashley: you're welcome. >> lawrence: a former california teacher is suing her district over claims she was fired for refusing to hide kids' gender transition from their parent. jessica top i can't says she was
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discriminated against for her christian beliefs and warned that what happened to her can happen to anybody. jessica top i can't joins us along with vice president and legal council for advocates for free and freedom mariah gun deer. thank you so much for joining the program comes down no teacher should have to lie to parents about anything no teacher should have to fly students about anything. and no teacher should have to lie to themselves and deny own beliefs and morals to safe save their salary they fired you as a result of this. what did they say? >> they essentially presented me with three directives that i
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voiced to them i could not comply with because they were against my beliefs. that's when they said well, then we will hold a religious accommodation meeting and see if and how we can accommodate you. i went through the meeting. they questioned me up and down left and right on my faith. and at the end of that, they decided we cannot accommodate your religious beliefs; therefore, we are releasing you from employment. >> lawrence: unbelievable. mariah, what is the legal case here? >> well, this is a very strong violation of the free exercise clause as well as is the free speech clause. we have a clear religious discrimination here because they retaliated against her because she would not agree to policies that violated her religious right as well as policies will beliefs such as pronouns as well
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as violating her viewpoint. you know, encouraging other teachers encouraging other viewpoints in classrooms and on their social media. but discriminating against ms. at that point i can't for expressing her viewpoints the schools the school's ideology. this is what this case is about. it's about discrimination. >> lawrence: mariah, do you worry that you will get a fair shake in court considering it's california? that's a good question. the constitution is very clear. you cannot discriminate against individuals because of their religious beliefs. and we have facts that are clearly outlined in the complaint that show that they retaliated against her for her
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beliefs but did not do so with other teachers for expressing their viewpoints. and the supreme court has also been very clear when it comes to the free exercise of religion. and so, i am always skeptical with california but the reality is they have to follow the united states supreme court. and we feel confident the supreme court supports our case. >> lawrence: yeah. so we reached out to the school district. her iewp pa unified school district. it has not been served with a lawsuit from ms. tapia the district will defend itself against any lawsuit filed jessica, mariah, we will be following this case. hopefully they do the right thing. if not thank you so much for joining us this morning. >> thank you. >> lawrence: you got it. has anyone heard from amber herd. the actress quit hollywood after
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her infamous defamation trial with johnny depp, where she is heading next. first the april jobs report will be released in one hour in madison alworth is talking to the people about the state of the economy. what's coming up, madison? >> hey, good morning. yes. while we await those job numbers i'm hearing from everyday americans what jobs are like. what the economy is like and how far is inflation is getting their breakfast budget. i'm going to bring you some of those voices after this. ♪ ♪ made in the u.s.a. ♪
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yeah. we want to come out here to talk to folks because what we see from our fox news polling is that by far the economy and inflation is that number one issue. so i'm going to put my coffee down and swing over here to talk to john. >> hi. >> good morning, john. >> good morning how are you? >> we were talking about the economy. what is your read. how far is your paycheck going. >> it doesn't go as far as as we hope it does. like robbing peter to pay paul all the time. it's horrible. because now i'm trying to like -- i have a 12-year-old growing up and it's just-i can't even explain it sometimes. >> yeah. you told me you work in sanitation. >> yes, i do. >> what do you do with that paycheck? how far do you stretch it? do you make adjustments. >> i have to make adjustments. have to cut. more what my child wants than what i want. more about giving to them. and just about, you know, trying to basically like i said, robbing peter to pay paul to make things happen. that's the only way we can do it in this economy. >> once get the report out, there will be some reaction to it. what is your assessment right
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now? is the economy strong? do you feel like. >> no, absolutely not. it's not strong. it is weak. and pretty much what i have to say. >> all right. john. thank you so much. i will squeeze through this way. all right. there we go. and i'm going to talk to rod and maureen. good morning, guys. >> good morning. >> maureen, you said you are a mom of four. the kids are out of the house and that helps. >> oh, yeah. because i don't have to feed them. i couldn't. >> tell me about your grocery budget, what do you guys do in terms of making things work now? >> we do it with a lot of -- we don't buy everything that we used. to say like my husband said, we try to keep the budget under $200 at one time. now it's under $300. >> per week. >> rod, we were talking about the banking crisis. what would you say about the state of the economy today. is it going to impact your vote? >> not really. i mean, because i have always voted the same way. i voted against the democrats. you know, their policies are
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insane. the biden and anti-inflation bill is only causing more inflation. we have had three of the largest bank failures in u.s. history in the last couple of months. and, you know, there are probably more coming down the line. >> all right. well, thank you so much. sorry for interrupting your breakfast. thank you guys for sharing your time with me. there you have it. when you talk to voters, when you talk to people that are spending those paychecks, it just doesn't go as far. rachel send it back to you. >> rachel: thanks, madison. it's true. people are hurting. we are going to turn now to your headlines in washington senate majority leader chuck schumer is taking heat over new york's push to do away with gas stoves. back in february, schumer tweeted nobody is taking away your gas stove. that statement came just months before new york city banned gas stoves. and earlier this week, state lawmakers added language to the budget to ban gas stoves in new buildings. congressman bill high xanga says how many things can schumer get
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wrong in one tweet? good tweet, congressman forget spilling the incumbency new jersey resident found 500 pounds spaghetti and macaroni. city officials cleaned up the noodles. how it all got there is still a mystery. those are your headlines. up next, we'll go back out to churchill downs where janice dean is catching up with the trainer hoping to score his first kentucky derby win.
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that fox nation special. now this story. actress carrie fisher who died in 2016 receiving a star on the hollywood walk of fame. happened yesterday the occasion nothing following on may the 4th also known as "star wars" day actress known aspirin says lay a. >> somebody save us kids. >> brian: fisher played princess leia in the initial "star wars" trilogy 1987. i have yet to watch one "star wars." >> lawrence: are you serious? >> brian: i should have told you in the beginning i knew it would upset you, lawrence. moving overseas the actress is said to be moving to spain with her daughter. we will follow that story with our spanish bureau. the decision comes on the heels of the defamation trial with her x johnny depp dismiss a
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$10 million judgment. i keep watching that trial every day instantly entertaining. only thing i have in the news. now this. >> rachel: 149th kentucky derby is set to take place this weekend in chicago based colt 2 fill is going for the glory. >> brian: if he succeeds, first derby win for trainer larry ravelli. >> lawrence: janice dean is catching up with larry this morning along with two of owners anthony sagan and anthony phil sagan. >> right, and the horse. named after. that was your toss. [laughter] >> janice: thank you so much. that was beautiful. just set me up for this opening to talk to one of the phils here. phil, tell me about your horse. >> my horse is named two phils after myself and my son's friend's father and it's like a rockie story. we have one horse and lo and behold we are in the derby.
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>> that's crazy. has that ever happened. >> i'm sure it has happened somewhere along the line but i'm not sure when it's happened. >> janice: this is your first derby what are you doing. >> enjoying it all. >> janice: where is the other phil. >> he is on his way. >> janice: if you guys win the other phil has to come. >> he will be here. >> janice: listen, larry is the trainer, what is it about this horse? >> special horse from day one since i got him. he was telling me a little bit earlier his mindset has got a really good mind. he all the crowd and everything today or tomorrow, i'm sorry, will not bother him at all. >> janice: what are you doing today with the horse? >> just walking. just going to take it easy. >> how crazy is it that they have never owned horses before and one of them is in the derby. >> i have been doing this 30 years and unheard of for sure. >> janice: what are the odds right now. >> 12 to 1. >> janice: not a long shot. >> no, might be a little bit less. i'm guessing 8 to 1 when the bell rings. >> janice: maybe after this
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interview it will go up further. >> or down. >> janice: so tell me about this horse. you say that better in the mud and it's supposed to be sunny all day. >> we were kind of hoping for rain. he won on this track in a pretty tough race similar to this and not quite as tough and it rained all day and the track was muddy. >> janice: you are talking to the right person. >> anything you can do? >> janice: so, listen, tell me the story about your wife and how this all happened. >> well, my wife passed away the day after christmas. her nickname was butchy girl. she is up there watching over my son and this is dedicated to her. >> janice: oh my goodness. show me the hat two phils, i'm won of them. >> janice: and the other one is coming. >> the other one is on his way what are you going to do to prepare? >> relaxes an take it all in race at churchill but never been to the derby before. >> listen, good luck. i am a betting woman and i think i'm going to bet on your
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anything in preparation to do? >> take it easy. going to walk get out of the barn and walk. a day off before the big game. >> janice: wonderful. god bless you all. thank you for being here today. >> thanks for having us. >> janice: are you going to bet today? >> sure. >> you are. >> absolutely. >> i'm just -- you know, i'm a bystander. >> janice: you are here for the fun. >> yes. >> janice: thank you. god bless you. >> thank you. >> janice: good luck to the two phils, back to you in new york. >> brian: can you guys ask how much the jockey weighs? >> janice: brian kilmeade asks these questions sometimes. he wants to know how much the jockey weighs. >> 120 pounds. 118, but i think everybody runs 126. >> janice: that might give him a leg up? >> nobody everybody is even. they put weights in the saddles to make it all evening.
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