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gold. your strategic advantage. >> sandra: all new at 2:00, chaotic withdrawal that left our afghan allies behind gets the hollywood treatment. a new movie showing the american troops and their translators and the debt we owe them. >> you think if i could be shot of this debt i wouldn't be. you think if i could just go through the usual channels i wouldn't. that is not how this debt works. >> john: the story behind that movie actually goes back even further, all the way back to 2007. inspired by one marine's fight to save his iraqi interpreter when the american government failed to do it. that marine joins us all new at

2:00. >> sandra: looking forward to that. we could as "america reports" rolls into a second hour. i'm sandra smith on this friday, john. john fri-yay. >> and waiting to hear from homeland secretary mayorkas, live on the border and this showing migrants on raft crossing the rio grande was shot last night in the very town where secretary mayorkas will speak. we'll see if he stands by his initial assessment. >> sandra: and we have this fox news alert. another d.a. from the george soros dream team bites the dust. kim gardner is quitting after critics accused her policies of making st. louis less safe. >> john: one of the final cases

is heartbreaking. she turned a blind eye on a career criminal free on bond, then caused a crash that left a 17-year-old volleyball player critically injured, losing both of her legs. >> sandra: mike. >> elected in 2017 with the wave of liberal prosecutors who promised to rebuild public trust with a judicial system, now gardner, the st. louis circuit attorney is retiring, an exclusion list of police officers from whom she would not take cases. held in contempt for failing to not show up for court cases. and reprimanded for mishandling evidence, and court calling the attorney's office a rudderless

ship of chaos. the case that -- daniel riley caused a car crash that resulted in a teenager visiting st. louis to lose both of her legs. andrew bailey leading the charge to remove gardner from office. >> criminal justice system in st. louis has ceased to function. and people are suffering from her refusal to do the job. >> gardner cited -- the first black female prosecutors in the state people have targeted me to advance their goals and the fundamental rights of the city's voters. by stepping down she will keep the office in control of the voters. her resignation is effective june 1st, but the attorney general says it's not fast enough, the public is at risk

and wants her out of office immediately. >> sandra: mike, thank you. john. >> john: sandra, kim gardner is not the only soros' backed prosecutor, a mother in texas is slamming d.a. garza for failing to put charges on a man who killed her son. she says she is stunned by his decision, saying "your decision has forever broken my trust in the county district attorney. ashamed to say the rest of my life i will have to try and understand and explain to family and friends how this decision happened and how he received no punishment for this crime, involuntary manslaughter."

>> sandra: and manhattan d.a. alvin bragg is facing growing calls to charge a former marine with the death of a homeless man on a subway train this week, but some are saying incidents are far too common because the city is allowing known mentally ill individuals to harass people on the subway. bring in martha, i know that you've been watching this story so closely from afar, but where do you see all this going next? the mayor's reaction here in new york city has been really interesting to all of this. >> martha: i think that, you know, that the mayor understands that people feel unsafe in a large way in new york city and you know, it does remind me in many ways when you go back to the 90s and look at the bernie getz case, the subway vigilante,

he went after four black men in that case, three survived and one survived with critical injuries, but that was also a very violent time in new york and in the subway system. and bill batten came in with broken windows policy and went after low level crimes and it changed things, turned it around, and kim gardner promised people they would be in a safer environment by lowering the number of people who were prosecuted and alvin bragg did the same thing in new york city. it's a travesty this killing of this young man, obviously deeply troubled and the governor has spoken out about how weak the state has become on mental health issues, that's where this system has fallen apart in so many cases, has left the people

feeling very unsafe and i think you see this kind of reaction. the justice system has to play out, we'll see what actually happened and how this is handled. but very interesting you have a ton of progressive focus on this, and not the other 27 cases that happened before it. >> sandra: that is the point. the mayor adams, he's actually facing criticism and backlash in the city by his voters for saying let the process follow course, let the investigation play out, right, martha. you mentioned governor hochul stepping in, she said this on the death. >> i do want to acknowledge how horrific it was to view a video of jordan being killed for being a passenger on our subway trains. >> sandra: to your point, where were they before on this? for everyone else who has been killed on the subway, "the new york post" op-ed, jordan matters. but where were progressives when

27 others were killed on the subway, martha. >> martha: yeah, i mean, michelle, the story, the man, and that piece that you refer to, he was failed on every level as well because he fell through the cracks of the system, he shouldn't have been wandering around homeless in new york city in the condition that he was in, and it is a tragedy on every level. but when, you know, eric adams is a former police officer, so he's right to say let's see where this process goes, right. everybody wants to jump the gun, alexandria ocasio-cortez wants to jump the gun and she was not outspoken on the other cases. so, people want things to be dealt with in a just way, regardless of skin color and want the subways to be safe and people who are ill to be cared for, not tossed around from one

subway car to another until something terrible happens. i would urge everyone to use caution and let the process play out. but when governor hochul says he was killed for riding the subway, there is so much more to the story than that, and so much we need to recognize if you want to make the city streets safer. >> sandra: well said, martha. and i cannot let you go without hearing about the big day tomorrow. your coronation coverage will begin tomorrow morning 5:00 a.m., bright and early. we will be all waking up to watch this. can you give a preview? >> martha: i know you are going to be up, set the coffee maker for the morning. keep your pajamas on, turn on the tv. this is an extraordinary moment. 70 years in the making, king charles iii longer than any monarch in history. a lot of helicopters buzzing and cars whizzing around us, kate

and william were on the street a little while ago shaking hands with king charles as well, all in a good mood as they look ahead to tomorrow. it's going to be a very interesting service, like the religious part of the service and i think charles is trying t blend modernity with tradition here. see how successful they are tomorrow. but quite something to witness and piers and ainsley and i will be out there excited to cover it with lots of background and history to share with you. >> sandra: looking forward to it and i know how exciting the streets can be there and the people, they start lining the streets days before the events happen and the energy is amazing. we can't wait. thanks so much for joining us here. >> martha: thank you, good to be with you. thanks so much. >> this would be about the fourth or fifth situation within the fbi where there's been a

cover-up on behalf of joe biden. what makes this particular allegation different and stronger is that it involves joe biden himself. allegation is there was a bribery in return for some sort of policy decision. >> john: miranda sounding off on the troubling allegation from a whistleblower that president biden may have accepted a bribe while serving as vice president, a claim the white house says is totally unfounded and part of a larger pattern of republican motivated attacks against the president. peter doocy is live on the north lawn. can the white house so easily explain away the allegation, peter? >> john, nobody at the white house has seen the document so until it's out there, the republicans putting it forward are focussing on the credibility of their whistleblower. >> had determined the whistleblower is extremely credible.

we take this whistleblower claim very seriously. we know it exists. we know the fbi has the document. as senator grassley said, it is not classified so we want that do you want in our possession and we also want to know what the fbi did to verify the claim of the whistleblower. >> president biden and vice president harris spent part of their cinco de mayo buying tacos in d.c. after he boosted the line about the debt limit, that china and russia will use a default to their advantage. >> you know this is becoming an issue in other countries. what's the united states going to do. are they really fooling around with not paying their debts? >> and then this, president biden tried to skirt shouted questions by promising to take more time with reporters later on today. >> you know, i think we have a lot of work to do and i'm doing

a major press conference this afternoon so i love y'all but i would like to ask you to leave so we can get down to business. >> but there is no major press conference this afternoon. he has an interviewed scheduled that will air later, but q & a with the open press is going to have to wait, john. >> john: another statement from the president that did not have the added benefit of being true. peter doocy for us at the white house, thank you. >> sandra: dhs secretary mayorkas set to speak very shortly from now on the southern border where they are bracing for more chaos and confusion in the final days before title 42 is lifted. >> john: some lawmakers are causing a headache for president biden. >> the crisis goes away by enforcing the laws on the books and instead of waiting years for a person to get the case heard it needs to be days and you do

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>> sandra: and brand-new video just into us on the border crisis. it is hitting all the way up in the city of chicago. scenes like this in another police precinct swamped with migrants sleeping on the floor, this is happening at multiple police stations across the city. some are sick and need medical attention. outgoing mayor lori lightfoot is calling on the federal government to send more resources, but border agents are bracing for next week when title 42 is lifted. there are more than 2 million cases waiting in limbo.

the justice department is hiring more judges but critics say it's little more than a band aid. how will the immigration judges handle this? >> with fingers crossed, and won't be easy. backlog of 2.1 million cases yet to be heard. around 600 judges, 600 judges for 2.1 million cases in the backlog system, that's only going to get worse with the lifting of title 42. right now some believe the backlog is 5 to 7 years, the immigration court watchers and that's before people even get before a judge. at the end of title 42, it will make the number swell. includes cases from 200 countries around the globe. the judges fall under the umbrella of the department of justice, and depend on doj to make more of them. doj hired 104 judges in 2022.

total now 634. as you say, more judges will be hired and brought up to speed. i spoke with a retired judge who last year predicted chaos for his fellow judges next week. >> overworked and often suffered the strains of, i would say even post-traumatic stress disorder. >> about a year ago i reported a backlog of 1.5 million cases, that has grown by more than half a million. multiple immigration judges have warned ending title 42 will put a tremendous burden on the court system. sandra, john, i spoke to one who was retired for several years, came out of retirement, back on the bench to help and the migrant housing program is already at full capacity here in

washington, d.c. ahead of the lift of title 42 next week. >> sandra: david, thank you. >> john: meanwhile here in washington, a bipartisan group of senators are pitching legislation to allow the u.s. to expell migrants for another two years. mayorkas is at the border and expected to speak soon. we will see if he has anything to say about the new proposal. but the meantime, we have fox news sunday anchor and news correspondent shannon bream with us. something put forward jointly by sinema, manchin and tillis to provide now expulsion authority for two years after title 42 is off. a plan in place to secure the border, protect arizona communities on the front lines of the crisis and ensure

migrants are treated fairly and humanely. need 60 votes to get through the senate, it may take some time what a slap in the face to bind. >> you have more and more democrats publicly coming out saying we have begged this white house for help, it's not a partisan issue, especially those who have the border districts that they represent and say we have real life people impacted by this all the tiechlt the fact is that we have cartels, we have human smuggling, drug smuggling, what we hear from border patrol, a majority of their time is spent on administrative duties, we think that's what the troops will do as well, and that means they are not finding the bad abbing -- actors. and a number of communities, especially beyond the border are saying we are overwhelmed. chicago, new york, saying we didn't do it.

>> john: as expected, if all hell breaks lose when title 42 is complete, what's the political down side for biden? >> you have to own it. when you look at the numbers, over the last 25 months record high numbers of people coming here. administration is bracing, they know title 42 is not going to be good for them. lifting of it. they have at times been ok with it staying in place, whether you liked president trump's border policies or not, numbers were down and this is one of the tools they used. >> john: not sure how far down the road biden will go to owning it, we see brownsville and mayorkas says the border is closed and clearly that's not the case. and another potential liability for joe biden heading into re-election, we are now being told by the washington examiner that the former acting director of the cia put this letter out

there discrediting the laptop story as russian disinformation to give biden a talking point. now, this now has all of the ear marks of a political operation that has been thoroughly discredited. so, what's the potential down side for biden there? >> the washington examiner said that, and he did, it worked well according to plan, but the weaponization committee in the house, of course controlled by republicans now, is calling forth a number of these people who signed on to it, top heavy hitters what it was. did you think it was helpful for the vice president, or you think it was russian disinformation, a lot of questions. but there are very few people who thinks anything sticks. and accountability for it. >> john: history has proven. one of the people who got the email was our own dan hoffman,

the former cia station chief in moscow. what he told us. >> i got the letter october 18, 2020, and at first glance it seemed natural to lay the blame at the kremlin's doorstep but at the same time there was no evidence and the letter noted there was no evidence. >> john: he didn't sign on to it, he was not going to sign without checking it out. >> exclusively, greg abbott is with us, and congressman henry cuellar, and jodi arrington. see you sunday. >> sandra: thank you, and up next, brand-new video showing bryan kohberger with police a month before those students were murdered in idaho. >> there is a hook in me.

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deposition? it seems trump is pretty insensed sitting down for this. >> the deposition happened in october of 2022, she accuses president trump raping her in the 1990s. a lawyer was questioning in mar-a-lago, it was shown to an anonymous jury of nine here in new york late wednesday and yesterday, so the jury was able to see clips of this deposition that was taken in october. now remember, this is a civil case. this jury will have to unanimously find, did they find former president trump is culpable here, it's not guilt or not guilt, but more likely than not that the former president did in fact rape e. jean carroll in a department store in 1996.

a case that's been ongoing and i've been told just now, this is one of the sots in which look, the former president has denied and dismissed the allegations from the get-go, even said he doesn't even know who e.jean carroll is. here is a portion of the deposition. >> i didn't have to reach out to anybody because it didn't happen. and by the way, if it did happen, it would have been reported within minutes. talking about going to a major floor, probably i assume the most important floor, a major floor in a major department store that's a very busy store, by the way, and checkout counters and everything else, and i would be in there, i mean, it's the most ridiculous -- ridiculous disgusting story, it's just made up. >> e. jean carroll has accused

him of raping her inside the lingerie department of a dressing room, and she says she voluntarily went into the dressing room, she walked out of the department store and the former president had asked her if, you know, he can get some help or advice on what to choose, and that's where she accuses the former president of raping her and pulling down her tights and what the former president is alluding to and saying is this never happened and this -- what carroll is accusing it happened in the middle of a very busy department store and what trump's attorneys have said in this case and argued, look, there was no yelling or screaming, there was no witnesses to this, so this should be completely -- that this is completely made up. and you know, for e. jean carroll, john, 11 witnesses take the stand, including two of her best friends who corroborate her story in the moments after the alleged rape happened, she

called them and told them all about it. carroll has had others come up and have testified in this case, including two other women who are unrelated to this case who say that the former president also forcibly kissed them and touched them incompletely unrelated incidents, and they actually also played portions of the "access hollywood" tape, the infamous tape, a big cornerstone of the 2016 election, and played that in this trial. so, closing arguments are expected on monday, john. this has been -- from the former president, you obviously have his deposition tape here, but he has chosen not to testify in person. >> john: bryan, somehow i have lost you, i don't know how. i've been looking through the president's deposition and the language is quite incendiary. he's defending his self, calling it a hoax and lie, like all the other hoaxes played on me,

dismissive of carroll, a nut job, he threatens to sue her when this is all over, also threatens to sue the -- also threatens to sue the attorneys who are representing her and then goes after the attorneys on one page saying you are a political operative also, you are a disgrace and repeats several times what he has maintained all along that "she's not my type." i mean -- this -- i don't think i've ever read a deposition quite like this. >> and this is a civil case and she's accusing him of battery, but also defamation. she believes these statements from the former president which he laid out in his deposition and has laid out in the public before have ruined her career and caused her emotional trauma. see what the jury decides on monday, john. >> john: we look forward to the verdict. >> sandra: live to brownsville

where secretary mayorkas as we were expecting, he is now speaking there as he is touring the border facilities there. listen in here. >> see our planning for the end of title 42 in action. the i met with border patrol agents, i have met with our extraordinary office of field operations personnel of u.s. customs and border protection. i met at port isabelle with immigration and customs enforcement personnel. with local community leaders, law enforcement leaders, with non-profit organizations as well. as chief chavez said, this requires a community response to a challenge to our communities. and that is indeed what we are bringing. a community response. it is no different across the entire region, across the entire western hemisphere. this is a regional challenge that requires regional solutions. it is not unique to the southern

border of the united states and i've spoken about this before. and therefore, three weeks ago i was in panama to meet with our partners, and we agreed to surge enforcement operations to prevent individuals from entering the very dangerous and treacherous area at the hands of ruthless smugglers. earlier this week the president's homeland security adviser met with the president of mexico and agreed upon an enforcement surge in the south of mexico to prevent individuals from being exploited by smugglers as those vulnerable individuals are misinformed by the smugglers and brought to the southern border only to be returned. a regional challenge requires a regional solution. let me give you a brief overview of our approach. as we indicated last week, we

are building lawful pathways that will provide a safe and orderly way for individuals who qualify for relief under united states law to reach the united states safely. we are building on the success of our parole processes that we announced on january 5th for cubans, haitians, nicaragua and venezuelans. 95% drop of those at the southern border because we built lawful pathways to access and that is the model we are building upon. last thursday secretary of state tony blinken and i announced the development of regional processing centers in different parts of south and central america to enable individuals to access lawful pathways from those regional processing centers, whether they qualify for refugee processing, qualify

for our existing and expanding family reunification programs, whether they present acute vulnerabilities that may qualify them for humanitarian parole on a case by case basis. we are reaching to people where they are. it is not only our security obligation, it is our humanitarian responsibility to cut the smugglers out and that is indeed what we are doing. we are building pathways. at the same time, at the same time we will deliver consequences for individuals who arrive at our southern border irregularly. that is our commitment and obligation as a way of cutting the smugglers out and taking care of the safety and needs of individuals who qualify for relief. in a post title 42 environment we will be using our expedited removal authorities under title 8 of the united states code.

that allows us to remove individuals very quickly. we will, by may 11, finalize the rule that we published in a proposed format that provides individuals who not access the lawful pathways will be presumed to be ineligible for asylum and will have a higher burden of proof to overcome that presumption of ineligibility. we are building lawful pathways and we are delivering consequences for those who do not use those meaningfully accessible pathways. the message is very clear. we are coming with the relief that our laws provide to the individuals in need. the border is not open. it has not been open, and it will not be open subsequent to may 11. and the smugglers who exploit vulnerable migrants are spreading misinformation, they

are spreading false information, lies in a way to lure vulnerable people to the southern border and those individuals will only be returned. to the individuals themselves who are thinking of migrating, do not believe the smugglers. please access the official government publications. please access the official government information on the department of homeland security website for accurate information because you are being deceived. and you are risking your lives and your life savings only to meet a consequence that you do not expect at our southern border. to meet our objectives, we have been and continue to surge resources, personnel, transportation capabilities, airplanes, to effect a greater number of removals every week.

additional facilities, remarkable facility that the united states border patrol set up here in collaboration with the community of brownsville. this was set up in just 72 hours. we are surging resources. earlier today we also announced the distribution of additional funds to border communities, non-profit organizations, and several interior cities to meet their needs in their partnership with us to address the situation at our border and to address the humanitarian needs of migrants. we distributed approximately 330 million more dollars today for the benefit of those organizations. we have a plan, we are executing on that plan. i have come to mcallen and brownsville to see firsthand that plan in action. fundamentally, however, fundamentally we are working in

a broken immigration system that for decades has been in dire need of reform. that is a fact about which everyone agrees. and we urge congress to fix our broken immigration system. and until then we will do everything that we can within our authorities to provide an orderly and safe pathway for individuals who qualify for relief under the laws of the united states of america. thank you, and with that, i will turn it over to deputy commissioner from customs and border protection. >> thank you, secretary. >> sandra: quite a remarkable moment there, john, listening to secretary mayorkas. remember, there are multiple calls from members of congress for his resignation, looking to impeach him for his efforts at the border or lack thereof, doubling down on a border that he claims is secure, is closed, john. as you just heard, he said the

border is not open and it has not been open. as we were running pictures, video from today, from yesterday, the day before, of migrant after migrant making that dangerous journey, and the long lines of migrants that are pouring into this country, john, and it is -- it is quite a remarkable moment to see the dhs secretary insisting this border is closed. >> john: what's really extraordinary is the split screen we had up where you see that line-up of folks that griff jenkins has been showing us all day long in brownsville, not far from where mayorkas is standing, which looks like the orderly border crossing port of entry something like san ysidro or in hidalgo, texas where day workers come across the border to do jobs in various towns and cities, and then back at night but these are illegal immigrants. i imagine he did not have the

benefit of the split screen in front of him if he had the benefit of that. >> sandra: and the entire point, a week before title 42, the trump era policy is lifted, which allows them to turn the migrants around at the border, no longer the case. we are already seeing surge, the democratic mayor of el paso has declared a state of emergency. they cannot deal with this. they are out of resources. so this is just a week before title 42 is lifted we are latching the secretary in -- insist it is closed. >> john: and insisting biden was not shown the village version of what's going on in el paso, even though all the migrant camps had been cleaned up and a lot had been moved out of the city of el

paso. el paso is back to the way it was in the month before president biden's visit there, with so many people on the streets and then we also had the former mayor of el paso telling us yesterday that a lot of so-called, he believes a lot of so-called got-away, maybe up to 2,000 of them, have mixed in with the people who were released with notices to appear in the city of el paso, and so the numbers have swollen, we don't know who those people are, don't know what their intentions are, but they are living on the streets of el paso now. >> sandra: and i was asking our team if we could tee up a video in chicago, one of our reporters -- we are talking about the problems in the border towns and on the border itself, i mean, we are talking a problem that is so far-reaching, the city of chicago, this is brand-new video, that you are only seeing here, this is a chicago police station where they are taking migrants in, and this is happening throughout the city, the democratic outgoing

mayor, lori lightfoot, is calling for federal help, these are migrants in the police stations, reporters noting many are showing up sick, some vomiting, requiring medical attention and the police are saying we can't take in any more, there is no more room. >> john: and i recall back in 2014 when i was covering the border crisis in the obama administration, i got access through jay johnson, then the department of homeland security secretary to see a border patrol station west of mcallen, and one of the big concerns is the spread of scabies among the migrant population and other tick and flea-borne diseases. so the migrants are dealing with hardships, and then the cities they are sent to deal with expanded hardships as well, and the strain on social services. >> sandra: your heart breaks when you see the people, children, incredibly difficult

situation all over the country for so many. and now this. >> john, approaching. >> still don't remember a thing. >> i don't remember any of it. i only remember the interpreter. >> sandra: powerful new movie in theaters about the bond between american soldiers and their interpreters, and the debt we owe them as a nation. jake gyllenhaal stars as a u.s. army veteran in guy richie's "the covenant," he goes to afghanistan to rescue his former interpreter from the taliban. he was motivated from the true story of zachary iskil, he joins us on set now. great to have you here. >> great to be here. >> sandra: thanks for your

service. >> thank you for telling the story and the film. >> sandra: a moment in 2007 you testified to the importance of this issue. >> in iraq, moussa entered the ranks of the proud few who have wore the uniform in combat. the marine corps uniform in combat. they are refugees. >> the war is not over for millions in afghanistan and the u.s. i see the faces we cannot find. i wonder if they fled to safety or killed by the taliban. >> sandra: you have an incredible story. why is this issue something you want front and center? >> number one, the first thing you learn in the military, rule number one, you never leave anyone behind. and the interpreters, translators, these are folks we have developed remarkable

relationships with, owe our lives to them, eyes and ears during missions, overseas even do this day. we owe them a debt not just of gratitude but obligation to make sure they are safe, for the sacrifice they have made and i think it's keeping that promise we don't leave anyone behind and this film that my friend jake made -- >> sandra: it looks incredible. >> it's about the translator, the interpreter not leaving the soldier behind and the work he's doing, and it's a dramatization, a bit, but a story so true for so many of us, how they have -- they do so much for us, sacrifice their families, put their lives in danger and the lengths that so many of my fellow veterans and service members go to to try and bring them here. >> sandra: and the second part was from march 8, 2023, who speak out, and the interpreters themselves, a former afghan

interpreter on the u.s. withdrawal, he heard a former interpreter flipped and was hunting him. >> i have no words to explain it. it was really chaotic and hopeless time for me. i was not afraid of myself, the only fear that i had was it was about my children, every time i look at my daughters and my sons and my heart broke into pieces for them. >> sandra: your heart breaks when you see what so many of these interpreters go through. >> the story is repeated again and again and again it's almost a timeless story of the last 20 years we have been at word. my translator, aboud, he was like a second father to me, and insurgents left the severed head of a dog on his door and said you are next, and to bring them to the united states, two are

cops here in new york city. >> sandra: family to you. >> they are my family. but you meet -- talk to a veteran, a service member, fought in iraq and afghanistan, they will talk about the relationship with the translator, interpreter, talk about what they owe to them and the obligation we have to bring them here. >> sandra: if i could just finally get your reaction to this, because as chaotic as that withdrawal was, and we all witnessed it, reported on it, our reporters were in it, this is john kirby last month on that withdrawal saying that it was not chaos. listen. >> and so for all this talk of chaos, i just didn't see it, not from my perch. at one point during the evacuation there was an aircraft taking off full of people, americans and afghans alike, every 48 minutes and not one single mission was missed. i don't buy chaos. >> sandra: the point of we leave

no one behind and to have him say it's not a chaotic withdrawal, and we know what happened in the days and weeks and months that followed, your reaction when you heard that. >> what i recall is during that period of time there were veterans who started organizing across the united states, veterans traveled on their own dollar to afghanistan who were on the ground working with the troops on the ground to identify translators, family members, people who had served alongside us to help rescue them and pull them out and there was a remarkable effort in amongst the chaos of the men and women on the ground trying to save lives. and unfortunately we lost 13 amazing u.s. service members who were giving their lives mainly to wade into the crowd to find and identify some of the folks we needed to bring out. >> sandra: amazing story. really looking forward to the film and thank you for all of your effort and your service. so important to get that story out there. >> i encourage everybody to see the movie, shouldn't walk, they

should run to see the film. >> sandra: and say hi to your friend jake gyllenhaal. >> i'll tell him you said hello. >> john: looking forward to the movie. meantime, a live look at london ahead of king charles' coronation, pomp and circumstance and family drama and history in the making. royal contributor, christopher andersen, something we have not seen in 70 years. quite a spectacle tomorrow. >> it will, absolutely. and we have seen royal marriages, royal weddings, royal funerals, royal jubilees, but not the biggy, and that's coronation. a once in a lifetime event. >> john: what can we expect tomorrow? >> well, you know, it's going to be as has been pointed out in the walk up to this, somewhat paired down. i mean, the new king is all about sustainability and those things, so 2,000 guests in

westminster abbey instead of 8,000, the parade route is shortened, and told not to wear the collared robes but business attire, however he has to deliver the goods in terms of pageantry, and plenty of that. the crown jewels alone will blow everybody away, they are worth about $12 billion, by the way, the last estimate. so everybody is very excited here and yeah, it's fantastic. >> john: we are looking forward to it and your coverage along with martha. at the same time, this grand pageantry underscored by family drama, and apparently camilla is furious at harry for what he wrote in the book "spare," intimating that she was the source of the leaks that gave him so much heartache. >> he came out and called her the villian, and i think it's very important to remember.

diana's ghost really looms large still. poll after poll says the british people don't want camilla to have the title queen. when she married charles, he promised his mother and the nation that she would be princess consort, camilla is going to be queen, when the invitation to the coronation went out, it was to the coronation of king charles and queen camilla, and i think it rubs a lot of people in the country, rather seeing diana crowned instead of camilla. it's a long, as we all know, long and drawn out family saga over the last 40 years. culminating now. >> john: and of course harry thought camilla was responsible for breaking up his mother's marriage and maybe she would not have been in the tunnel in paris had the marriage continued and now we hear the queen thinks meghan markle is evil and the courtship between her and harry was a complete catastrophe.

apart from all that, expecting fabulous pageantry tomorrow. >> everything's fine, that's the fun, you know. i -- ok. >> john: we have to jump, we will hear lots of you tomorrow, christopher, thanks for joining us. sandra, you going to be up early to watch? >> sandra: absolutely, i will be up, i love it, i love it. and happy fri-yay, john. >> john: i'm john roberts. "the story" with >> martha: thanks. we want to go straight to the border. griff jenkins is asking a question of alejandro mayorkas. let's listen in. >> five-year bar from admission in to the united states. the consequence will be more severe. what we will do is remove individuals that do not qualify for relief under the standard that will be set by the rule