>> all right straight to a fox news alert. eight people are killed and seven others are hurt after shooting at an outlet mall in alan, texas, yesterday. [sound of gunfire] >> the gunman was shot and killed by a police officer who happened to be nearby. while responding to an unrelated call. >> alexandria joins us now.

alexandria. >> good morning medical city health care is treating the victims and over and over again is their first thought is please let there not be any kids whorm hurt. the ages of those injured rages from 61 to five years old. no information has been released on the individuals who died on the scene as of yet 2378 >> rescue task force teams found seven desees individuals on scene. we transported nine individuals to the hospital to area trauma facilities. of those that we transported, two have since died three are in critical surgery and four are stable. >> so this all started after 3:30 yesterday a male shootser described as heavy set and wearing all black open fire at the alan premium outlets 30 miles west of dallas and dozen shots reported as employees and

shoppers scramble for safety. >> unrelated call he heard gunshots located the gunshot, located the shootser, neutralized shooter neutralized the threat. we believe at this point that the shooter acted alone. >> yeah. >> we spoke to dominic he rushed to outlets knowing that his sister-in-law was there. >> i heard a gunshot, and we just all rush to the back. we're all freaking out like what's going on and i had to go back to front lock the door that's when i saw cops all coming in. helicopter coming in s.w.a.t. team going on what's going on and then happen, down a second time and this time for real we're in the back gots safe. >> at the shooting at the time let's also try to hear from dominic to see how he felt trying to rush to the scene to find his sister-in-law. >> my wife and i actually went

over there immediately and by picked her up and i just saw guess a thousand to 2,000 people that were standing in the hot sun. it was 92 degrees. it was, i mean, people just crying, hugging being reunited with their loved ones something i will never forget. >> there was a statement from texas governor greg abbott released as well that says our hearts are with the -- with the people of alan, texas tonight during unspeakable tragedy i've been in contact with mayor and state and local leaders and offer full support of the state of texas to local official tones sure that all smans and resources are swiftly deployed once again you heard police there had neutralized this suspect. that means he was killed on site. no possible motive in this has been released at this time. will rachel, pete. rachel: thank you alexandria thank god there was a police officer who happened to be on

the scene not called for that reason. but there armed ready to help i can't imagine how worse this could have gotten. >> i made mistake of seeing videos who are risk of -- whowho are description of the shooter not from our community. this outdoor -- this alan jot let mall is outdoor it is huge, very big, you know, geographic area. and the reason i bring that up is you know, i've seen some of the video of kind of how this took place where the shooter was. and he had -- it appears that he had assault rifle if a police officer just happened to be in the area he was articled with nothing but a side arm and to take him down in a wide open space not easy to approach him -- you know, and to take him down with a service revolver or service weapon. >> whatever he's got.

quite a feat. to the point of size of this. it is a big outdoor shopping mall so just because he was on location dupght mean he was necessarily nearby so you hear shots going off on the video. it is a lot of shots going off in short period of time. whoever -- >> shooter is wearing body armor whoever responded had to get there then approach -- probably outgunned do you wait, that's where you get into as you wait for him to reload and shootser try to go inside and always outside? and again i think this morning we all have the inclination to go back to motive not that this person deserves to be understood but want to understand how they got access to whatever they got access to hopefully we get that information sooner rather than later. rachel: the public needs that information and need to be forthright because we don't want more of this to happen again. where they're from, toxicology, family history, we need it all

that's the way to deal with this. >> texas i believe it is a constitutional carry site so presumably could have been armed services nearby. will: no doubt. >> that leads to our next story which was a citizen who took action, and maybe that wasn't the case in this example. but we -- this news comes after the news of what happened in the new york city subway this week where there was a -- an unruly passenger on the subway system who had multiple previous arrests. his name is jordan neely and a marine veteran you know the story you've seen it. subdued him on the ground with a choke hold unfortunately neely was ultimately -- died because of it. but now the question is, does this marine vet yet prosecuted for that and the protest happening in new york city not because of what happened per se

but pointing out that victim here is the homeless person who was harassing and potentially assaulting people on the train. and the criminal is the one who stepped in to do something. rachel: that's increasingly what we see happening these days where the people who are the victims and in this case -- maybe even a hero. is now the bad guy. will: what is on the screen is protesters took over a new york city subway system they were on the tracks stopped a train car, and then when the train sort of halfway made its way into the station, they blocked the subway doors and wouldn't let anyone off of the train cars. the interaction you saw a moment ago was people trying to get off the train cars saying i need to get got to get to work and protesters saying too bad. you know, find another -- that's it right there. the black man inside the train is saying hey you have to let me out i have to get to work and all of these people on outside are yelling at him and shovings him back into the train so you see the protest -- pete: doing nothing. will: and protesters you know i

don't know if attacked got physical with the cops. shoving them back, the mob shoving back the cops. you know, and to your point peter what you brought up the story has been turned into a race story because marines white and neely is black and that leads people like -- alexandria cortez to just feed that fire, feed flames of that tension with tweets like the following -- watching media give the brock turner treatment if you'll remember the stanford swimmer a rape case. i don't know -- five plus years ago. so he's getting the brock turner treatment aoc says for killing of a homeless man that's been nos yachting with a record does not excuse killing them neither does being poor, sick or homeless and we are closer to being in neely shoes than we think and our country will make it impossible to afford rent on minimum wage job and when

wealthy break the law they rarely get records they can afford to be treated favorably while most of us cannot. by the way, the most ridiculous part of what she had to say was in that tweet she's on numerous occasions said this was murder. smored a very specific term it means something. it's not just -- homicide is a different tomorrow. murder is the implication that what happened here was the intentional killing of a human being. and aoc has no way of knowing that and totally tearing at the fabric of america by jumping beyond what she could possibly know to try to divide us once again on the basis of race. ming that's what she's best at we're going get more details on what happened here and she said -- any of us could be jordan neely well any of us could be passengers who felt threatened in that subway car and whining whining -- when i go up here and try to look at the cultural implication of what we're seeing happen here

is we're encouraging people who could potentially protect, defend, other people courageous young men, we're encourage them not to step forward because if you step forward and if you protect those who were more vulnerable, this is what happens. i was in madrid once with my husband. and a member of congress friend of his, and we were robbed you know, and in our hotel lobby. and my husband's instant reaction ran after the guy got back what the guy stole and when he did that he pulled jacket and guy escaped by escaping his jacket. we had his jacket, and inside was his wallet so we knew what it was and went to hotel people and said this is who it is, and they said this was i don't know ten years ago. they said oh don't bother no one to arrest here this is what we're devolving into because nothing happens to criminals and those who step in and try to fill that gap are ones who are now turned into criminals and i

think it has huge implications for -- for those of us who like women who are vulnerable in situations like. pete: the defense that daniel the marine corps. veteran will use you want to know this and stepped in and used a hold he was trained to use and didn't want to keel him and meant to subdue him and went too far that is a pretty common defense of someone taking action you're right there's such a -- disincentive against that makes everyone's lives -- rachel: insenive it is to film and do nothing and film on your phone. pete: walk away. i think i saw -- rachel: with the cop in the subway car he was filming as well and instead of subduing so yeah. pete: bring in fox news anchor and chief spongt shannon bream let's set aside hyperbole the legal merts how this will be handled. what do you think? >> what's hard is listening to

people past each other. jordan neely was failed by the system he was 14 when his mother was murdered by all accounts that's when he started devolving into real trouble with mental illness homelessness and people tracking him said he became a heavy drug user he was clearly struggling but you can also put that on the plate along with fact that this retired marine was trying to do what he thought was the right thring with no intention to end jordan neely's life all of those things can be actually true whether this goes to grand jury and what alvin bragg decides to do we have to watch and wait. you see a video and part of the story there had to be many other witnesses i imagine that police talked or to or will try to talk to legal part of this case. but you know like rachel, i have been on the receiving end of this behavior and it is frightening very first day i was internal in college a young woman here in washington, i had a similar situation on the subway with a guy sitting next

to me who was saying i'm going to take out people on this train i'm going to kick this person in the face he's muttering things i'm trying to be grownup i can handle this but my first day on the subway here in washington i was terrified looking around to see if anybody was going help me and when we got to next stop a group of people pushed him off the train to get rid of him. luckily no physical encouragement other than that but i looked around and almost burst into tears thanking these people because i thought am i by myself as a young woman with no one to help me i know what that el toos like as a woman. but i don't know what jordan neely's life was like i don't know what he was going through but certainly there's got to be room for conversation compassion for him. but also compassion for this marine who thought he was driengt thing and trying to protect other people. will: you're right shannon and it's pretty shocking that aoc would be dismissive of an experience that you described that while terrifying for you is

unfortunately not unique to your life anyone who has lived in new york has had that -- every day that experience happens all of the time i lived here 15 years you get on the train you almost become a little to it someone will get on and they're going say really threatening things and make like this car is about to spill into violence. >> you just don't know and most will rye to not make eye contact. try to just get to the next stop. it is a regular occurrence as you said there in new york. rachel: we need to live in a country where we raise boys to be brave and courageous and protectors and i think this situation, however, this unfolds and whatever happens to the young marine is going to set a powerful message not just to men who might possibly help but to mommas raising them saying do i want to raise my kid to be that protecter or present him from being thrown in jail for doing the right thing very fascinating question shannon. >> we know you have to be to go fox news sunday who is at 2:00?

>> governor greg abbott with us to talk about title 42 and in wake of the shooting in texas we'll talk about this with him as well. also congressman henry democrat there down along border and talking debt ceiling showdown that meeting at the white house. >> all right shannon looking forward to it. meanwhile bag to politics, there's a report that governor ron desantis of florida will not announce an exploratory committee ahead of what's expected to be an official announcement in june that he will run for president. this is coming as a new poll shows hypothetical matchup between desantis and biden. let me see it shows matchup trump being ahead so -- >> a little confusing. if it were trump there you go 38% would definitely vote republican. 32% which desantis overturns

the argument a lot of desantis supporters are making which says he's more elect nbl a general. that number would say no that talking point isn't at this point accurate. it is really interesting that they're moving this up. i think it is -- a response to the fact that the quasicampaign numbers have tanked in the process from the book tour to touring early states. to the ads on tv, i mean, they're to the response to trump's indictment it has not gone well for the noncampaign campaign of ron desantis as trump numbers go up so looks like speeding it up so he can go be a full on candidate. >> is that what's happening? >> that is what this says skip the exploratory committee and a signal to run instead announce in june to run. man, it surprises me i'll be

honest i thought it was inevitable for him to run now five months in it feels like a lot of headwinds and downside trump is running very strong remains very popular. and their train is not yet off on the tracks. maybe it will in june but a trump train too i don't know how you handle that. has risen a little bit in the polls and in a small way by talking almost all positively about trump desantis camp can't do that. campaign ads have a trump sticker and then a desantis sticker on top of it trying to come after him without teching off trump supporters i don't know how you thread that needle. >> i don't know if he could choose if he done the way which is acknowledge what went -- fabulous in the trump administration things he did well. in fact, some through that a little later as well as larry elders but one he said is here's

a list of all i'll do on day one. reminded me of donald trump saying here are the, you know, pro-life justices i'm going to put in something people thought you couldn't do. back then you couldn't show your hand leak that and trump certainly did for the pro-life community because he he knew he needed to have them onboard. will: all right turn down to additional headlines with crisis at the southern bode joe biden defends sending 1500 army troops to assist border patrol agents in texas ahead of the expected migrant surge. free up border agents that need to be on the border. troops will apparently hep with data entry and warehouse support. this is overwhelm border cities anticipate thousands of migrants to pour in with title 42 ending in just days. a new study find cell phones are linked to higher blood pressure a major cause of heart attack and strokes. southern medical university finds people who spent 30 minutes week talking on the

phone even hands free were 12% more prone to hypertension. the study also shows six hours of chatting on the week raise a risk 25.. those are your headlines everybody talks more than 30 minutes week. >> a lot less talking on the phone a lot more texting. 30 minutes a week -- >> i do because i call my mom and my sister every day but most young people only talk -- i agree. there are weeks where i talk under 30 minutes -- total on thes phone. >> i don't believe that. on the phone do you sit on the phone and tiewk people. >> i put ear buds in and do laundry. >> i see you in the green room -- >> i guess that does count but nonspouse communications. >> that's not what the study says. [laughter] >> fair. fair.

rachel: pete -- >> that doesn't cause hypertension. california is closer to graduating reparation gop presidential candidate larry elder on how this proposal is driving more people to flee his state. of california --

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>> as you know we're four days away from title 42 ending that covid era rule at the border which has already led to a flood. the last two years have already been a flood. and unflirnght it is about to get worse. biden says they're sending national guard 1500 troops but as you've point of pointed out l helped to facilitate more of that transferring than anywhere else and you've done a great interview with wives to share with viewers again who are only edge because it's been bachelor's degree and getting worse how much worse could it get. here are those wives on the pral earlier. >> we already have thousands ofs people gathering on the mexican side, and unfortunately as we see every evening and every morning, there's already thousands of illegals comes in.

there's not enough agents so if there is a crisis and an agent is in need of help, it can tack very long time because a lot of the agents are processing, you know, the thousands of people that are coming over. so the main concern for me is safety. for my husband -- >> what happens when one of the citizens or one of the neighbors needs an ambulance all of those resources are tied up somewhere else on our highway assisting illegals and a smuggler that have wrecked that are breaking our laws. i have to worry every single time i say good-bye to my kids and put them on the school bus because we have purr sues on one highway to get to and from their school i shopght have to live like that. >> you're attempted to say that chaos that will soon ensue once the lift of title 42 is going to be immeasurable but started to be measured in the fact that we have tens of thousands come across border in anticipation of

the lift title 42 i did seek biden administration is looking to implement a new rule about asylum seekers that if you didn't rule is -- in seis sense if you didn't claim asylum to american border then you can't claim asylum in the u.s. which oink the surface sounds good and logical and right like let's say coming from venezuela and county claim in el salvador and mexico you can't get to united states and claim it but i don't know how you prove that. rachel: that's a great point ofi was struck by the desperation and voices of the women they are border patrol wives but a also just wives and mothers as she said they're every day there are pursuits bailouts, you know, that are potential for crashes and and deaths on the highway. but also we're seeing the cartels are richer than ever. they're coming across the

border. there's more crime, it's -- it's just unbelievable that you could have this policy and not provide resources to these communities to handle it. they want their border closed but if you're going open it, at least give them enough ambulances if someone had a heart attack -- you know. tax paying citizens in need can't get help because it is tied up with illegal or a street with high speed chases all of the tile because smuggler and cartels that's no way to live. >> no. so unfair. that's exactly right. back it our fox news alert eight victims killed at a texas mall as we've learned more about gunman who opened fire while wearing all black s.w.a.t. gear. our next guest work at the outlet and where this happened and they feared for their lives. >> i'm --

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>> gunman was also killed when a nearby police officer stepped in. pete: dan have been following this story and dan what's the latest? >> well good morning hearts are heavy across north texas this morning as a gunman as you mentioned killed eight people and wounded seven others here at the allen premium outlet mall 25 miles north of dallas. it happened about 3:30 yesterday afternoon while there were lots of shoppers here many making purchases for mother's day which, of course, is coming up. police say the gunman was kilted by a police officer who happened to be in the area on an unrelated call. video posted online showed gunman getting out of a car and opening fire on shoppers who were on the sidewalk. investigators believe the shootser acted alone. the victims range in age from 5 to 61 years old.

among the wounded, three are listed in critical condition, no names have been released yet. the people who were kill ready injured were all outside of the stores when they were shot. the attack sent many shoppers running to safety away from the mall property. but for others as well as store employees remaining inside shops, behind locked doors, was the only safe option. those people waited for at least a couple of hours in those it dozens of lock stores before they got the all clear from law enforcement on the scene. those officers had gone door to door in every single store to make sure there wasn't a second gunman. the mall today, of course, is closed, and we'll see what happens regarding that moving forward. live in allen, texas dan godwin back to you. rachel: thank you dan.

>> both at work inside one of the store when is shots rang out. brothers max and jerry gum join us now. max, jerry thanks for being with us you were both at work at pretzels that day. give us a little sense of where you were when pretzels is the store you were inside, and where the shooting was taking place. so what you experienced yesterday afternoon. >> well good morning, guys. good morning. >> so pretzels it is kind of like the main entrance just like at the corner kind of, and it was pretty close to where i think the shooter got taken out. >> h&m is right around the corner so we were yeah pretty close. will: so did you hear shots fired and what kind of commotion did you see and what were people doing? >> so at first i didn't really

assume they were gunshots, of course, right i just thought maybe a nearbying store dropped few glasses or something like that. right it wasn't until a bunch of families ran to the back of the store while i was doing dishes when i realized something bad was actually going on. >> yeah. rachel: so you're in the back doing dishes -- customers or people who were in the mall are rushing back to where you were at is that right? >> yeah. >> what did you do then and hunker down with them and figure out what was beginning on what was your reaction at that point? >> so my first reaction was to just go through the back to the big hallway that is usually used as like a tornado shelter i assumed that would be the best spot i think that's what a bunch of other stores thought would be a good idea too because back there 2 or 300 at that point we found out as late as you could that there was an active shooter

going on. >> how long were you hunkered down before you were cleared and everything was safe? >> we were actually probably in there the last time we were in there probably for two, two and a half hours or something like that. and then first time it was probably ten minutes. >> how long before you called your mom? because i'm sure she was hearing anything about what was beginning on she must have been terrified having two young boys working there. >> i said i think i texted like group chat with my family in it. probably about six minutes after to my first thought was to get on all of my social medias tell everybody that i know not to come to the outlet mall. because i know that it's like a good place to shop. right i don't any of my friends or anything going there now especially if i don't know if there are going to be cops there any time soon toipght get

everybody far away from there as possible. >> do you have a protocol for the store for active shooter something that you know? >> no. nothing really. no idea what to do. >> i know you guys were in back hunkered down do you have any sense of how long this went on from when it first broke out until shooter subdued do you have any sense how long that was? >> i really didn't think it was a big shooting i really thought a store got robbed or shots fired but i didn't think that it was like this huge thing until halfway through when people were sending me -- videos of like everything hunkered down and being top story on fox yesterday. i was like, that's when it finally hit me this is actually really like big deal. >> yeah. >> jerry -- you've had some time now you and your brother to kind of process

this at least a little bit. how are you feeling? what are your thoughts? >> so far i'm feeling pretty good. i don't know, it's kind of a lot to take in. because you read or you see it on the news all of the time about shootings -- you never think it is going to happen to you it's kind of crazy for it to -- yeah. slaps you in the face with reality. it's pretty crazy. >> max what was it like to go through this with your brother? >> well at the beginning we were kind of split up. because i took like the first group to the back and he kind of stayed in the store to help more people that were running in. and -- i, it was really superscary because at one point while we were in the back -- there's a bunch of commotion going on from one side. i think at some point someone thought that they saw the

shooter i don't think anything like that actually happened. but one side of where we were at just started running as fast as they could to the other side so that's when i thought we were completely doomed because there was nowhere to hide so i was -- it was crazy. because i was basically hopeless pretty much. >> emotions like doom and hopelessness whether it was happening you knew those will stay with you we appreciate you sharing your story. >> you guys are safe two good kids working hard at pretzels your parents should be proud god bless you we are praying for your community and all of those affected this morning. thank you both. >> thank you. >> yeah. kids doing the right thing working on the weeds this kind of stuff happens. it is terrible. >> all right california one step closer to granting 1.2 million dollars in reparations for each individual that qualifies. but activist say nope that's not enough.

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>> equivocal number from 1860s for 40 acres today is 200 million dollars for each and every african-american. california democrats applauding the move that takes them one step closer to giving more than a million dollars to each black resident despite activist saying it's stilt not enough gop presidential candidate larry elder ran for governor of california, and he joins us now. larry, we've been talking about this story all morning long is this for real could this really happen could they really give reparations to black people in california? >> rachel thank you very much for having me that's the problem i ran for governor i'm familiar with the state budget because 300 billion dollars this would be 600 billion dollars give or attack twice with state budget is. there's a $20 billion deficit, and there's a 1.5 trillion t as

in tyrannosaurus unintentional liability from where is the money going to come? they're going to have the tax people and by the way, most enemy california aren't white they're people of color even if you accept the premise here. now reparations is the money from people who are never slave owners to be given to people who are never slaves and california was admitted as a free state so task force doesn't matter it is about mass incarceration red lights and over policing. that allegedly explains a racial gap really how do you explain then this act that japanese americans have a higher household income than white dos even though in california there were laws that for bad japanese owns farm land how do you explain the fact that chinese americans have a higher household income than do white american when is they were laws in the bay area that chinese from participating in laundry business. there are lots of people

discriminated against you want to -- assign the racial gap to all of that stuff? the real gap rachel that they don't talk about is a fatherlessness gap. when i was a kid virtually everyone and my friends had a mother and father in the home now that is rare. 70% enter the world without a marriage in the mother there's not more racism than there was when i was born. rachel: no one wants to talk about fatherlessness and government complicity in encouraging these kinds of arrangements and the lack of family formation. so yeah you're absolutely right. really quick what is the message that this sengdz to black children in california? >> it says that you are a victim and this is all about buying votes. they don't care whether or not their money is there what they want is for black people because afterall democrats more likely to support reparations than republicans. one more thing discrepancy, 75% rachel of black boys in california cannot read at grade

proficiency 80% of blacks not do mat at grade proficiency and more money than ever before. we ought to be talking about those kinds of racial disparities but they're not. >> yeah amen to that. okay so joe biden -- has just tied his last year lowest approval rate which was 36%. it crept up a little bit he's now -- back to 36% approval, 56 disapprove. what do you make of this and somebody who announce two weeks ago that you're running for president what does this say for america? >> by the way my website elder for president.com throw something in the tip jar help me get to the it debate which is in august in milwaukee what it says is that people feel hurt. inflation is eating up wage growth l a gasoline prices are hire people don't like what's going on with the borders people feel they're worse off than they

were two and a half years ago it is quite that simple and when i offer is an alternative. i think people love donald trump. and also fear that donald trump, donald trump derangement syndrome would not vote for anymore he walked on water. if you like policies that gave us a strongest border probably in our history, but you want somebody who you think can get elected because of the swing voters that don't like donald trump. i'm your man. >> larry there is competition on the right there are people fighting and scrapping although donald trump certainly has a quite a large advantage. on the left, on the democrat side, no debate. so that i think shows they're pretty satisfied with how things are going for them on the democrat side. well anyway, larry great having you good luck with your race we're going to be following it closely here. >> thank you about by appreciate it. coming up, griff jenkins joins us live from the border ahead of title 42 eetionened in four days

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>> well birming ham stall yons take on maulers at 6 p.m. eastern time tonight on fs1 here to preview week four matchup are head coaches skip of the stallions and ray of the mallers i've got them side by side weech other i don't know shall i put them in most uncomfortable position i'm sure they'll tell me the truth. tell me what your most worried about coach horton's twheem do you have to stop? >> well, i mean, you look at right now the quarterback is kind of a two headed monster a little bit with the things that he can do and playing really well and ray has done a great job with his team but they're built on defense. the talk around league is this is the most improved team from a year ago. i think they're playing really well they've had a couple of close losses but this is going to be a competitive game and terminology everybody talks about is like everybody has

talent in this league. it is just who does best job of coaching that weekend and we have a great challenge this week and playing pittsburgh. >> okay coach horton he said it's all going to come down to coaching so when you're in the film room talking about the guys what takes up the most minute when is you're looking at birmingham and the way coach and who are you focused on? >> right. i talk about skip all of the tool he's the envy of the league when he walks in women go wow look at that gorgeous coach and men go wow he's got the trophy so we are envious of what skip has and we want it. this is a big game and great challenge because we get to defend champions. will: he killed you with kindness like i'm not worried about the last thing he's going to do is tell you he's worried about your quarterback like you did. talk about how good looking you are. let me ask both of you this. i'm curious we're in second season now so it's -- you know, you have first you

what's the biggest difference coaching us of l versus everywhere you've coached? >> i think it's about the roups it is about the ropes with these relationships and how to figure outs their why and what nair doing and it is a league where all of these players they're in the game because they love ball. they love football they're nots ever paid they're not getting extraordinary amounts of money. they're here because they want to play football and the camaraderie and building it. i've loved it and fox has done an unbelievable job putting this league together. there's always issues as there's in startup league but i think they've been very minimal but the relationship with the players is what's it's been about. will: fascinating that you guys were talking about it. but you tiewk players about they're why, what is the main why? >> a 100 by 53 same dimensions and they love football as coach

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straight to a fox news alert, eight people were killed, seven hurt after a shooting at an outlet mall in allen, texas yesterday. rachel: the gunman was shot and killed by a police officer would was nearby. >> alexandria hoff joins us with the latest. >> reporter: witnesses have described the shooter as a heavyset man who was wearing all black, potentially body armor, who was casually walking down the sidewalk while