because my mom and i were in johnson and murphy's shopping. out of nowhere heard tenant pops to go look to the customer next to me i said was that gun shots? he no probably construction or something. then 10 or 15 more shots go off. so iran to the front of the store and i said no that is shooting. we see this guy dressed in all black wearing a vest with an assault rifle he is shooting at people. steve another eyewitness recounting terrifying motor

moments of courage and yet another mass shooting. this time at a sprawling outlet mall in texas yesterday. police say a man pulled into the parking lot and a dallas suburb and started firing at random. eight people killed, seven wounded three critically before the godman was also killed. hello welcome to fox news like i am molly line in for arthel neville. eric: hello molly, i am eric shawn a thank you for joining us everyone pretty has yet happen again this time police in allen, texas sales are the police officers who was responding to an unrelated call at that shopping center when he heard the gunman fired those shots that it's in the police officer rushed over and opened fire on that suspect killing him. witnesses say the man was dressed in all black. he wore what looked like body armor and had an ar-15 style rifle. the five texas attorney general ken paxton joined us in moment senior correspondent live in

allen, texas with the latest on the investigation. to you. >> hey molly, eric good to see you. this outlet back here would normally be very, very busy on a beautiful sunday afternoon. but today it is still a crime scene. the police have it all sealed off. a bystander also catching the terrifying moments when things went down yesterday. a warning this video is disturbing. [background noises] i am here, hate. [background noises] >> 3:30 6:00 p.m. this gunshots right out. before it's all said and done police said the gunman killed eight innocent people the names of everybody involved the victim and the shooter himself being withheld by police for now. but hundreds and hundreds of frightened shoppers and store employees hid, it ran as the

allen premium outlets was quickly evacuated. part of the police tried to click clear a very chaotic sc scene. >> we were probably in there the last time we were in there was probably for two or two and half hours. >> i just got nicole she was there shopping. that she was safe and was hiding in one of the stores. >> now today, police tell seven victims remain hospitalized. three are in critical condition, for stable. although while while a search for a motive continues. sources say the fbi was at the gunman's home last night. he reportedly is in his 30s and lives with his parents. there is a search of the property last night. that is all we know. meantime president biden has directed the flag not only at the white house but it other federal offices to be flown at half staff through the mid part of next week.

the case eat thank you so much, eric. eric: is becoming all-too-familiar sadly. shoppers murdered at the mall slaughtered in our schools the dallas morning news this morning 20th amasa shooting so far this year in our country. how can we stop this car in it? you know americans do not want to put texas attorney general ken paxton joined us now but mrd on the investigation for the name not being released, what can you tell us about what happened who he is potentially what the motive could be? >> is not released by the local authorities right now we get the local police, it got the fbi, got state police involved in the investigation. they are withholding the name right now they've also withheld the victim's names as well. we will get all of that probably today or tomorrow. we will know everything about this that we need to know. eric: you have a gut at all about a possible motive or why someone on a lovely saturday walk to the mall and open fire? >> it is hard. this guy is dead so we may never

really know the motive. but as it's hard to understand anybody who would kill innocent people for reason only known to him. it is sad. obviously scott was killed that said we will never know why he did it. that's part of what happens in shootings. many of the people killed at the scene. support that could be potentially be manifestoes on social media perhaps are going to the background of these people, what can law-enforcement do the a top law enforcement official in a lone star state, what can they do to perk try to prevent these? >> look i think in the end if there are bad people have bad motives they are not going to follow murder loss. if you cannot ultimately stop all of these. i think you train your police just like we trained our police and the state. alan police officer did an amazing job. had he not been here, had he not interceded more quickly i think we would have had a lot more people dead but also the idea of law-abiding citizens being

trained and armed and having more security people is also another good idea that could help. i don't think there's any way tubbs would prevent all gun violence. it happens at all kinds of cities across america where the of strict gun laws or they don't have gun laws it is unfortunate but it is a reality of life. eric: republicans let the assault weapons ban lapse back in 2004 that was passed in 1994. you think if that was imposed that potentially could prevent these type of incidents? what did this was that interested in following laws. i don't think following a gun law efforts willing to kill eight people and likely if he couldn't kill him or he would've killed more. so passing a law for somebody willing to kill people that relates to god does not seem to make a lot of sense to me. i would rather have law-abiding citizens that have the ability to carry so they can respond as well they needed to. eric: there is a built 21 bills after the state legislature that deal with this that democrats have proposed. the call for 21 there names for

the victim. raise the age to buy a semi automatic to 18 to 2100 limit the sale of ammunition to minors. waiting. thirty days of your under 21 that was some cannot go in and buy something angry. or matt or mentally ill. the band expanding bulletins or bolts expand keep a locked container in the vehicle for closing gun show loophole's here is a democratic state senator is on that at a press conference with some of the surviving family members, take a listen. >> is no limit to how many ar-15's you can buy from a so-called hobbyist. this is a real deal happening in america right now. what would it say today if republicans and democrats got together and said we are going to close this crazy thing because this is a circus. stover would you say to the center the other democrats in the state legislature who are proposing these laws? >> i'm not had a chance to read

those laws are not the legislators do not but on those things. i wish passing the nonsense of the problems in many cities in america, washington d.c., detroit, chicago have very strict gun laws, california and yet we still see lots of murders we see loss of gun crime. it does not change. the best thing a think we can do is have armed police officers trained have security officers trained and allow law-abiding citizens to protect themselves if they have to for somebody that is crazy and is willing to kill people. eric: sadly that did not happen in this case you got a big mall potentially there are security guards there and thankfully i took a local police officer who just happened to be there on an unrelated call to take this guy down. you can only what would've happened if that officer wasn't there there would be more victims that we would be morning this morning. quick seven no doubt this guy saved countless lives but we will never know what this guy did.

he is a true hero he honestly rushed into a scene that was dangerous for him while other people were running. i have to give him a lot of credit. i've given a lot of credit to the allen police department. this guy did his job and thank god for him being there. support with support law enforcement here and we thank him. finally mr. attorney general, what sense do you have? is there a sense of anything that republicans and democrats can get together about? what would you like to see happen to try and stem these and stop these in the country whether it is a gun measures, whether his mental illness, whether it's looking at social media. will find out more about what this guy was when he is identified. from your heart and your gut. what can we do to stop this? or thing. i do think we can be employed with the protector schools bear this a real effort in texas to protect schools and create safer point of entry. as a private entry of something that needs to be done make sure

our children are safe but you cannot protect against every possible act of violence. know whether you eliminate guns or you allow people that are safe and law-abiding to carry. the reality is with evil people in the world. i would rather have people that are trained law enforcement as well as law-abiding citizens are trying to protect themselves so we lessen the number of people injured or killed and some the things happen. sue for it is texas attorney kenna paxson mr. attorney general thank you for joining us our hearts go out to you and the fellow citizens of your state. >> thank you. >> the border is not open. i'd has not been open and will not be open. the five then security secretary mayorkas sinister in a message as officials brace for a bigger search of migrants under southern border bird we are now just four days away from the

trump air at 42 asylum limits ending. already at cep agents and border cities are being overwhelmed. the numbers speak for themselves. according to this border patrol chief in the past week there were nearly 55000 apprehensions. more than 18000 got a ways. as well as 200721 pounds of meth and 183 pounds of fentanyl seized. let's get to griffith jenkins he is all too familiar with the challenges there on the border and today he is reporting from brownell, texas. okay molly. clear audit in invective investigation scene. you talk about those numbers a surge in migrants coming in unprecedented numbers. we are a few miles of the actual border near a migrant shelter run by an ngo. we have had an incident around 8:30 a.m. local there is a fatal car accident. seven confirmed dead multiple injured it is unclear exactly

how many were migrants but a vehicle struck a group of individuals standing outside of the homeless shelter. we are now the brownsville police department investigator march and as we are standing in front of the scene, investigator list? do we know how many of these are migrants? >> right now 8:30 a.m. in the morning we received a call the major traffic accident for the driver of the vehicle ran over several individuals seven are confirmed that we have approximately four -- six people hospital route now ranging from minor injuries to major injuries the middle checked the mail drivers apprehended the time and receiving medical attention he is a hispanic mail who is driving his land rover. the actual accident happened in front of the center which is a homeless shelter. we are trying to get identification to confirm to see if they are migrants or regular citizens. >> he heard investigator from multiple witnesses that migrants are among the group that were

struck. and some up by standard help to detain the driver can you tell us anything about that? >> set us up early what witnesses were stated there were migrants there as far as a confirmation from us we have to make sure we can confirm them, notify the appropriate consulate and then we confirm their actual migrants. it is a good possibility it might be migrants we do not know and we cannot confirm until we get that confirmation. the people they are for helping the people out and some people did detain the drivers we arrived. >> do we have any indication this early juncture as to what was the driver possibly impaired? or under the influence? or anything like that? we are covering all of our bases we are doing what we call our testing her blood testing and everything to see if there's any forms of intoxication on the driver if there is those charges will be added for right now he is under our custody for reckless driving. of course our detectives and work in the scene right others possibly going to be more charges coming soon. >> just to give for our national

audience to understand, brownsville is a small city here in the shelter they have been growing numbers of migrants coming in this area. because of such a large group coming to the border now in recent weeks. is that possibly making a more dangerous situation have large groups of people like that on busy roads at the road they were on. it's always a dangerous situation when there's a large group of people. right now the homeless shelter here is helping us out by providing some type of shelter for the migrants as they get here and a couple of days ago after the final destination. it's very common right now to see several migrants along the area. which is very unusual for us were trying to the best we can to help them out to the travels. >> just lastly as you work to confirm who tragically is among these victims, whether they were injured or fatalities, if they are migrants they likely would have been screened and processed by border patrol when they cross

so you would know what way or another whether they are citizens or recent arrival migrants? >> it is correct. once we get there fingerprints or any such dna evidence border patrol should have a record of than they bargain process through them. that should make the identification process a little easier and hopefully faster that way we can identify them and let the appropriate people know. >> lastly, houses migrant crisis with the surging numbers in a strain if you will or added to the limited resources you have is a police department? >> is firstly deplete police department regular patrol duties are still functioning as normal. we have officers coming in on their days off but going into top border patrol which is going out of a federal grant. a lot of people are wondering how is it the city can afford this? it off the federal government off grants we have in place are shifted to help a border patrol situation. what do you know you're busy thank you for your time to help

clarify very, very go, molly, to recap the details of a fatal incident. driver is in custody trying to determine whether or not the individual struck here migrants for our georgian investigator it is believed to many are because of what witnesses told them. and of course the fact this happened right in front of where the majority of them migrants going to the shelter here. this is that location but will bring you more as we get it this is a developing story will send back to you. if i developing and heartbreaking grip you've done an incredible job covering the human toll that we see there down the border. you talk about the surging numbers that we have already seen in recent days, expected to get even bigger's 42 valley does have the sunset. your thoughts as that's our time of this happening in front of a homeless shelter the crowding and the efforts of the multitude of communities along the border as we are facing even greater numbers in the days and weeks ahead. well, that is a great question,

molly. again, all these border communities are having to deal with major uptick in migrant numbers. ultimately if they are being released with notices to appear which has been the process for the better part of the last year or year end a half, they have got to go somewhere. all the people you see from our drone footage and thousands coming across, they ultimately have to be encountered initially, screened, processed, and openings transported somewhere. many go far away. many go to different cities but some are released here at shelters. they are released after being processed to bus stations. so they add to the number of individuals in these communities and in an incident like this should improve and be confirmed migrants are among the deceased year or the injured and is going to speak to the fact this large increase in numbers is difficult for border communities to deal with. as far as to rethink those

numbers are going. i talked to the border patrol chief this weekend. he says he thanks these numbers are going to climb even higher than what we have seen. just that one processing site for border patrol's bid or we have been always long they have processed more than 30,000 migrants just in that one area in the middle of april 3 molly will send it back to you. steamer gripped jacob thank you so much for your ongoing report of the border we appreciated. we have a republican senator joni ernst standing by to weigh in on the by administration deployed 1500 troops to the border to help with this crisis, that coming up. stay for joni ernst on the situation predicting what will happen when title 42 ends on thursday. meanwhile california reparations for african-americans there could be coming. the state task force voted last night to recommend official state policy and reparation payments for slavery for the golden state's two and a half million black residents. if the state legislature gives

the okay on this the payments can range from hundreds of thousands of dollars, to millions of dollars per person. the plan is estimated to cost sacramento more than $500 billion. matt finn live in los angeles with the very latest on this controversial move, hate match. >> hi eric. for now that task force recommendation of payments is just that, a recommendation. thereto we are setting without a california lawmakers who would ultimately decide on any potential payments. during the meeting here in california some the black speakers outright said their vote is for sale to whoever it will grant there ask including those payments. >> reparations is now. pay the debt, cut the check or no reparations no vote in 2024. but if you are running for office do not think you're going to win your election if you do not have a concrete plan for reparations.

biden, do not seek a second term unless it is accompanied by an executive order for reparations for descendents of american chattel slavery. see nine person committee approved their final report that includes 95 recommendations to essentially repay black americans who feel slavery and subsequent racist policies to real them from the same freedoms, healthcare, housing and job opportunities as other americans. the committee recommends each person could receive anywhere from a few hundred thousand dollars to more than a million dollars based on how many years they lived in california. the task force previously set reparations too total $800 billion. that is $5 billion more than california's annual budget. the committee since determining who is eligible for any of these payments are the most important tasks. the committee members presented the possibility that every california citizen who wants to

can trace their lineage back to slavery because important lessons are changed. before president biden sending 1500 troops to the southern border. i had in the end of title 42 on thursday. this test tens of thousands of migrants are waiting in mexico to cross over the border to come here. so many are asking why haven't the biden policies worked to protect our border? mckesson armed services committee member centered joni ernst of iowa next on what the president needs to do and how she says republicans have the m answeris. muscle, bone, and heart health. yaaay! woo hoo! ensure with 25 vitamins and minerals and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ cat purrs ] [ phone vibrates ] introducing astepro allergy. steroid-free allergy relief that starts working in 30 minutes,

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for forgiving tabs margin the latest in texas for reports of seven people are killed in a car accident potentially needs were migrants walking near a migrant center brew by the very latest on that. of course also the very latest on the search for more information on the gunman who killed the people opening fire at the mall just north of dallas last night. post two major stories occurring right at this moment. we'll have an update in this hour, molly. molly: you're sitting 1500

troops to the border. people on the left to criticize and say it is humane. people on the right say you're not putting american priorities first. have you given up on congress doing anything? and if so is it anything you can do to address this? >> yes the first bill introduced was to reform the system we have for immigration. number two, we are in a situation now this 15 her people the border are not there to enforce the law they are there to free up the border agents who need to be on the border. if i president biden defending his decision to send 1500 active-duty troops to the border as officials there braced for an influx of migrants when title 42 the asylum limit ends on thursday. is it too little too late? well spring i'll republican senator joni ernst member of the senate armed services committee. thank you so much for giving us a little bit of your sunday afternoon. we really appreciate it. you had a chance to get a little

clip of president biden in the interview talks about reform. which has been elusive we can say that is also touting 1500 troops that will essentially be tasked with administrative tasks to free a border patrol agency also notes the additional asylum judges which are part of the effort to move things along. what do you make of these measures being undertaken right now? >> your absolute right, molly. it is a little too late. i do support allowing those 1500 active-duty troops to go to the border. but that does not solve the problem it is not a permanent solution. we absolutely need a border patrol agents. we need more k-9 units at our ports of entry to search for fentanyl. we need enter agency task force to combat the fentanyl and illicit drug trafficking that is coming into the united states. do you need to reform the immigration system.

but how can we do that with assurances unless we actually secure our border first. so we need to finish building the wall i'm reintroducing might build that act which would allow the materials the federal government has already purchased to be taken by our states and allowing the states to continue the border wall. it is just a simple solution commonsense solution. there are so many things we actually can do and a president biden refuses to move on any of them. molly: before move on from that i want to ask about the build out law. throughout the course of recent years have shown relate some materials of baking in the southern sun. in theory when construction was positivist when the biden assertion came in. so if the states want to use these goods, how exactly would that work a question at how quickly could they be turned over? are they still good? can the stuff that has been

sitting there in texas, wherever it's been laying in the sun can still be used? >> absolutely can. the amazing part of this is we are paying $50 million a year for contractors to babysit those unused materials that are lying out there in the desert. yes they can be used. and so the states would apply it to the federal government and they would take possession of this materials and be able to complete to the border wall where it absolutely makes sense. i have flown over the materials. we need to transfer those to the states that want to complete the job that was started in the trump administration. again it is common sense we already purchase the materials we might as well see them put to use. molly: so much of the responsibility for these enormous amounts of numbers of people coming across the southern border have fallen to the states. and many of the border towns are

also overwhelmed griff jenkins reporting just this morning outside of one of the migrant shelters there was a horrific accident a number people were killed in a car accident personal learning the information about. and now her sink storage and numbers underway this new rule. when title 42 expires there is a new rule expected to kick in the united states to begin denying asylum to migrants who were caught illegally crossing the united states/mexico border if they reach another country to reach the united states without first requesting protection there. that is per homeland security secretary mayorkas. why now this rule question rickets expected to be finalized on thursday the sunset for title 42 has been a looming large for quite some time, your thoughts? >> yes. they recognize we have gone from crisis during the biden administration with a 5.5 million illegal immigrants entry into the united states over the course of the past two years we've gone from that

crisis to absolute catastrophe. as the end of title 42 is rapidly approaching. the biden administration has waited far too long to implement some of these rules that could have helped early on. but the fact of the matter is here we are now. what are we going to do about it? we have the solutions we'd love to have biden implement those. c5 i was senator joni ernst thank you so much for joining us a sunday afternoon we appreciate it. the latest on the hunter investigation coming up. stay with us. and contains high quality protein to help manage hunger and support muscle health. try boost® today. you ever try cashbacking? it's earning 3% at drugstores with chase freedom unlimited. so i can save on something special for a first date? wait! that's all for a first date? whoa. alright, c'mon. earn big with chase freedom unlimited with no annual fee.

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it was happening here just in front of a shelter that largely houses of migrants. that is why there's so much concern here. let me step out the way light looked on the river a few miles of actual border. at this busy intersection on the left side of your screen is a building that houses about 100 -- 200 migrants. obviously it is at capacity right now the surge of migrants coming to brownsville we have been showing you all week long. there are 8:30 a.m. this morning a vehicle drove up on the curb on the other side of the street there is a bus stop. a lot of migrants were gathered out there migrants regularly take the laln head to the other places in the country where they're going 200 multiple witnesses that saw him or migrants told us there were migrants among the deceased. seven have been confirmed dead. there are multiple injured were waiting to fight off the local brownsville pd we spoke about half hour go to the

investigators, he said they are trying to actively determine exactly what the situation is with the driver but he is in custody. there was one individual, a hispanic mail them and drawing his blood we are told to determine whether or not he may have been under the influence or try to determine why he crashed. again just to recap the vehicle drove up on the curb in front of a bus stop where a group of individuals believed to be migrants were for that's a tragic incident. they were so many among the victims because apparently the vehicle a great land rover we are told from officials rolled once and went up on the curb and had pretty wide spray across what was a large group of individuals believed many of them to possibly be migrants. very fluid here it speaks molly to the fact these border communities have migrants gathering in various parts of the city. in this case the shelter which is not a migrant shelter it

wasn't a homeless shelter it was largely overrun with the migrants because of the situation here at the border. as we hear from border officials the numbers are going to go even higher print these are the concerns of local law enforcement agencies. we will get you more it's just developing here right now will send it back to you. molly: heartbreaking situation and thank you for bringing us the update we appreciate it. what's why do you think your polling is where it is? >> by the way every major who won reelection. >> pulling aside that sentiment in this country despite all of these is not very good progress all they have heard is negative news for three years. everything is negative i am not been critical the press. you turn on the television until we are going to it hit if there's something negative. eric: president biden blaming and negative media as you heard first poor poll numbers new "washington post" abc poll today

shows 56% of voters disapproved of how he is handling the presidency. this is in washington all eyes on a possible debt ceiling deal with house speaker kevin mccarthy later this week. lucas and tomlinson live at white house with more with the president says about the abuse of americans for his tenure. hi lucas. >> will start the debt ceiling bill passed to the republican-controlled house it raises the debt limit by $1.5 trillion. house budget committee chairman spoke earlier on "fox news sunday". >> will pay our bills object faith and credit of the united states but we are not going to give any politician including the president a blank check to continue to bankrupt the country. >> back to the abc poll showing biden's rating following to an all-time low 36% per what really got people's attention this morning, 50% to 36 of americans say donald trump that a better

job handling the economy when he was president than biden. then there is this comic trumpet beats and biden in a head-to-head rematch in 2024 according to this poll 44 -- 38%. florida governor desantis with the republican nominee 42% said they would vote for him versus 37% provided to trump or desantis beats biden. then there's the question of the president the president went to church last night here he is 63% the oldest president in u.s. history does not have a mental sharpness to serve effectively as president. 62% say biden is not in good enough physical health to be an effective leader. back to the debt sugg republican senator mike lee says he now has 43 gop votes against raising the debt limit without the spending cuts pretty spoke earlier and spent "sunday morning futures". >> this would bring about a massive period of economic growth if we pass this because there be fewer regulations

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some were told of fighting with police all protesting the chokehold death of a disturbed subway passenger jordan neely. law enforcement tell randy a jury could begin weighing charges and is a 24-year-old marine daniel penny has said he acted in self-defense because neely is frightening to passengers by yelling, screaming acting irrationally subway car this is now touched off a about self-defense crime, mental illness, ventilated she is in. criminal offense attorney joining us now. doug and penny is on the train car and apparently neely is screaming and yelling sick i want to die i do not care if i die i do not care if i go to jail. alarming people, frightening people they wrestle him to the ground. they put him in a chokehold apparently. because of this. and he dies.

do you anticipate criminal charges against penny, they marine? what self-defense is about propriety agenda you can defend yourself or a third person using force that is commensurate equal with the force being presented that's going to be the issue. here it can get a little problematic for the potential defendant essay the selection of the chokehold versus a nether manner to restrain the victim. and two, how long it went on. obviously we do not prejudge anything there were five emergency calls that went in. those are going to be studied carefully they are going to interview all of the people as best they can that were there. but again if they are going to charge and it would be in my view either involuntary manslaughter, which is an unintentional killing with recklessness. criminally negligent homicide.

eric: penny's lawyer said they did not mean to harm them to hold him until police arrived but reports say it was 15 minutes past -- to that time. could he argue then obviously could that be a successful attempts to get off the hook in this case? >> no, not. the point is criminal law teaches us the intent is the intent to do the action you did. so in this case is the intent is to put the chokehold on i knew did that intentionally not by accident. i did not intend to hurt him is legally pretty much irrelevant. but again you cannot prejudge a case like this. their cultural discussions and protest one side say he is a hero the other side says he's a criminal. legally it's all going to come down to self-defense case what was the force being presented against the ex- marine and the other passengers?

what was the force being applied to the victim? was it proportional to be a broken record. eric: this is because such a debate in new york and the country. neely was a michael jackson a person had a sad and troubled life. homeless they say arrested about 40 times or so for a minor incidents to punching a woman in the face and breaking her nose on the subway. punching a man in the face on the nose on the subway for this all stemming from the murder of his mother, he found her body stuffed in a suitcase back in 2007. that doesn't also show a complete failure of the mental health services of progressive criminal prosecutions in the city and elsewhere that these people who so desperately need the help so often do not get the help they need. that leaves the rest of us, the

law-abiding citizen sitting in a subway or wherever falling prey to the situations. >> is no question about that. it goes beyond that legal analysis which we cover. the point is this is a tragic tragic situation of an individual to life spiraled it was a very popular michael jackson impersonator as you said we had a lot of fans and people watch them it's really sad what happened his mother i believe was murdered in his 14 years o old. there are a lot of reports that had a devastating impact on them so and so forth. the point is there's an issue for mental health authorities, social work and someone be on the legal part of the discussion your absolute right. eric: it neely in his impersonation outfit for this with the criminal justice system will sue happens this week but raises larger questions about society and how these people are handled. thank you.

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molly: first jewel in the triple crown overshadowed by the death of the seven horse@churchill downs days and hours leading up

to the big race nate foy has more. >> a molly of the seven horses that died five of them were euthanized after suffering various injuries. the circumstances training death of two horses remain a mystery. they share the same trainer take a look his name joseph junior. he is indefinitely suspended rabbi churchill downs of pending an investigation is to horses all told parents pride and chasing. they died in the weekly up to the race. he claims he is confused as anybody listen to them here. >> all the blood work came back five are going thriving trying to figure out what was the recent right now we have no answers. when you have no answers to something shakes you. at roxy because as i said different the horse getting hurt and getting injured that something you could say this happened twice is something that doesn't happen. plexus comes, molly, new anti- doping and medication control program is set to take effect in

a couple of weeks. this time to start on may 22. that is just two days after the race which is the second leg of horse racing's triple crown back out here live. those seven horse deaths date back to april 27. about a week and a half five list deaths happened in the past week to have them happen in the hours leading up to yesterday's big race will send back to you. nate foy thank you very much were back at 4:00 p.m. eastern keep it right here for more news next from washington. eric: it is interesting by the way, with the horse and death cepeda is now actually calling for the closing of churchill downs because of this of course there will be an investigation. as it rose really sucks that it does require an investigation there such a beautiful animal such a wonderful sport. molly: 's reign to reign in any kind of doping in that sport. more news coming up.

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