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tomorrow, remember, the white house, trying to deal with debt, unlikely to come to an agreement but it is a start. what comes of it is anyone's guess. our big issue tomorrow not only on fox business but fox news. in the meantime, taking you to "the five." thank you. ♪♪ >> here we go. i'm greg gutfeld along with judge jeanine pirro, jesse watters and dana perino, "the five." ♪♪ >> i have acquired a hell of a lot of wisdom and i know more than the vast majority of people and more experienced than anyone who has run for the office and i think i have proven myself to be honorable and effective. >> wow. that's joe's pitch.
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the voters think it is time to ditch. biden making the case for re-election with qualifications of being an old fart and knowing a lot of stuff. a new poll shows the president's approval rating at just 36%, a new all time low. democrats don't want the guy either, 58% would rather vote for somebody else. and hemorrhaging support from black hispanic women and he's losing to republican rivals donald trump and to a lesser extent, ron desantis. it's a brutal bunch of numbers, right george? >> this is brutal for president biden. >> absolutely george. you talked about the record low approval rating is six points down since february and it goes deep into the party.
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>> i was told i couldn't send the poll out until after midnight. they are fragmented and should concern them. >> that is not a good number for president biden. two thirds of people say he's not sharp enough to be president. >> he knows just who to blame. >> all they have heard is negative news for three years. everything is negative. i'm not critical of the press but you turn on the television and the only way you get a hit, something negative. anyway, that is number one. number two, i in a situation where you have much of what we were able to do going to come into play now. >> you know, jesse, a lot of -- everybody complains about the press, but how can he do that when he has most of the mainstream media behind him and basically says something about half of the country every chance he gets. he basically says half of the
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people are unsaveable. >> right. this is like the girl you say you hate but when she looks at you and smiles, you fall in love. i love this poll from the bottom of my heart. this tells me two things. i have been highly effective and able to persuade the american people. now two thirds of the country agrees with me that joe biden is an unhealthy half whit making their lives miserable and it tells me the biden protection rack racket is failing. they have tried everything and it's not working. that gives me hope. sometimes as a republican you get a little down, you look at the numbers and feel like you are under siege and you're like here we go again. i see a poll like this and i get excited. that thrill just went down my leg. the last time we all have to remember how lucky joe biden got. he had covid, he had big tech and the c.i.a., f.b.i., he had
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everything going for him and it had to work out perfectly. are they going to be able to pull that off again? i mean, if he's at 36% now, with a summer of high gas prices, the economy, bank records that are about to explode and spring offensive in ukraine that could go side ways and title 42 ending, it could only go lower. i had a dream last night, i often don't tell people my dreams, but this is so good i have to share. i had a dream on saturday night, the elders of the democratic party sat joe biden down and wheeled him out in front of the american people and said it is time to go. i'm not going to read into it anything more than that. i always had a dream i could dunk. but this is a powerful and symbolic dream. the fact that he said he's honorable after denying responsibility for the ill
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legitimate granddaughter and he called half of the country neo-nazis and then says effective. effective at what. he broke the border, prices are up, wages are down. the stock market is only up 7% since being in office. that is not a good record. i want to thank abc "washington post" for not juicing their own poll. it looks like they forgot. thank you. >> good to see you. >> really good to see you, too. >> within that, there was something he said that was really important, it was the democrats might love the poll because maybe it is the excuse they need to push him out and then they like the poll because trump is doing so well, in their heads, the preferable match-up will be non biden and a trump. is that fair to say, they might like this poll? >> and the fact that he could dunk in his dream as well.
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i don't disagree, you have to be alarmed in the white house with these numbers. the head to head match up with donald trump, they'll argue that the democrats will come back to him. but the democrats should be there now and that number is alarming. two, 58% of democrats want to see someone else run. we differ a bit on this, he's not a serious candidate for president which means a democrat as a sitting governor or congress person or elected official -- >> what if they're standing. >> standing or sitting as long as they're in office, maybe it is time to think about this. if you look at the 30%, the two of them combine, kennedy and williamson are polling at, the judge and i had a disagreement with this, four to 10 weeks, because you're getting closer to when you have to decide to do something serious. whenever you face a difficult
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primary, carter, kennedy, they had good candidates run against them, this is a recipe for a loss. if i'm in the white house, you have to get him talking about the things and seeing the same polling, border, debt ceiling. get dealing with it and claim victory. show up at the border in the middle of the night and take the vice president with you and commit to doing something over the next few weeks, working with democrats and republicans in congress. if you are serious about winning and i think if you are serious about doing what is right for the country. it is may 8th, a day before an important birthday and three days before mine. november 2024 election, in the midterms, the republicans we thought they were going to sweep the house and senate, this is not to degrade or diminish this poll, this is something that the democrats in the white house should be alarmed about. this is not a one-off. these polls have been trending
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this way for a while. i hope the one thing that is different, he's losing to trump in a head to head. this is reason to be serious about this democrats, as we head into the summer. >> can i say something, judge, the thing i like -- that was helpful but kind of zoned out. it was a rough weekend. there's a positive thing in here i found about the hispanics and women and blacks taking a major hit. could that be a sign that maybe identity politics has gotten worn out. >> great point. >> thank you. >> he can pander but won't bring the public along with you. what happens, when you have more jobs like blacks did under the trump administration, women and chinese and minorities. i think americans are like -- they're sensitive to the fact that they're trying to sell themselves to them and they're not buying it anymore.
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look, the president has spent the last two weeks on the road and guess what happened? his numbers went down. you can tell that what this administration is going to do, they're going to keep him in the white house and can't keep doing that. this guy made a promise in 2020. he said i'm going to be the adult in the room. i'm going to restore america to its moral standing and make historic role as a safe haven. what do we have? we have five million illegals and one million got aways. restoring our moral standing after afghanistan and what we saw there is an embarrassment and the truth is, he comes out today, he has a press conference on-air travel. nobody cares joe. and you know what he says at the press conference, he says pete buttigeig, i want to compliment him on his leadership and says
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kamala harris is doing a great job. >> do you think they're going to hide him again? the joe show doesn't work. >> it reminds me of the movie when eddie murphy was going to run for senate and had the same name as the white guy. distinguished gentleman and drove around in a truck that said his name. we didn't know that was the guy. sometimes you can hide and your numbers will be better. harold said something i had written down, it is only a matter of time they start floating trial balloons above their name. i think in the white house they're in more of a panic than leading on. the dog sitting in the room and there's fire and the caption is
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this is fine. that is literally the oval office at the moment. i feel he had this problem focused on things people don't care about, like a game of telephone. american people called the white house and said okay, we are concerned about immigration, crime and inflation. and joe biden heard okay, you want me to double the size of the irs and you want me to give rich people deals on electric vehicles and you want me to figure out a way to debase america's standing in the world. got it. that is what has happened. i think they're starting to see erosion from the people who said fine, i will never vote for trump and only for a democrat no matter who it is. i think it is going to start happening and that is showing up in the poll. >> you gave me an idea, dana describes memes. we have a large blind audience and you can't braille a meme. >> i just had the idea.
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>> yeah, he's rude. just kidding. >> i found that really helpful when you explained a meme. >> was that helpful to you? >> and i can see. barely. i am legally blind. >> ahead, did joe biden just tell the doj to layoff hunter? what the president said next. ♪♪ [♪] if you have diabetes, it's important to have confidence in the nutritional drink you choose. try boost glucose control®. it's clinically shown to help manage blood sugar levels and contains high quality protein to help manage hunger and support muscle health. try boost® today. want to stop lower body pain before it starts? there's a dr. scholl's for that. new dr. scholl's prevent pain insoles are the only ones clinically proven to prevent pain from muscle-induced joint stiffness and strain. so you can stay pain free.
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personal affecting you, your son could be charged by your department of justice. how would that impact your presidency? >> i trust my son and i have faith in him and my presidency making me feel proud of him. >> biden's warning shot comes as the white house preps for a fall out of a potential hunter biden indictment. people close to the president still worry about the personal toll it could take. the u.s. attorney investigating hunter reportedly close to deciding whether or not to bring charges but top house republican is asking the prosecutor to hold off. >> my message to the department of justice is very loud and clear, do not indict hunter biden before wednesday, when you had the opportunity to see the
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evidence that the house oversight committee will produce. this is not just about the president's son. this is about the entire biden family, what they're looking at charging hunter biden on is a slap on the wrist, a drop in the bucket. wednesday will be a very big day for the american people in getting the facts presented to them. >> dana, how did you think that question was posed to the president? >> i didn't like the way the question was posed and remember last week, we were talking about how biden doesn't do interviews. the white house was like quick, let's do an interview with msnbc and bury it on a friday night. and the only thing it makes news on is hunter. and part of the reason, when we have the hunter clip, you see the full question and the american people get it. i don't like saying the american people. viewers that saw it will understand what she did was led the witness. i'm pretty good at leading the witness. she is basically signalling, i
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know that you have nothing to do with anything that went wrong with your son -- so i'm going to set that up and give you the out before you have to say it yourself and tee you up with a nice ball. >> i know greg doesn't put lifts in his shoes but you do really have a very strong stance. >> i don't know what i'm doing here anymore. joe is pretty sneaky too. he says hunter has done nothing wrong. he pulled that amazing trick of having you think past the story to a conclusion, it's just hunter and not the big man. let's say i make a crude analogy that gets me in trouble on "the five" and i'm at hr and i say look, jesse has done nothing wrong. i can't stress that enough. harold in rare fashion made a great point. i had to go back like a year to find it. but you suggested that hunter and joe could have gone head
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first into the fentanyl because as a former addict he knows the turf. >> i think it was me. >> jesse, amazing. it could have saved hunter if he had done that. as a business man, he probably could have made a headway into finding out who all the players are if he doesn't take all the drugs, now could be rfk junior, if he turns his past into a plus, and fights the fentanyl war, he could get a lot of votes, includie mine. >> do you have any points on this? >> i don't think there's anything wrong with the president saying his son has done nothing wrong. i have been on this show and others saying president trump is innocent until before the court unless proven otherwise. if he's going to say or some are
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going to say the president was out of line, then he is out of line. congress appropriates, sets the budget and appropriates the money for federal agencies. if he's telling the agency not to do his job, that's not lost on me the political advantage but if they have information, give it to the justice department. that's what the justice department does and not the committee to bring charges. this story has exhausted me. i have been dismayed why it has taken a u.s. attorney and may be a special council looking at hunter. if he's done something, make the charges and let him confront the charges and he's going to plead innocent to the charges from what his father, the president says. the country doesn't deserve to have to go through all this. present the case and let's move on. >> judge, you might have a different opinion about that.
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>> i just can't believe that look, the presumption of innocence applies to a defendant in a criminal court. in the court of public opinion. prosecutors who have evidence and have seen the evidence don't put their head in the sand and say he's innocent and then bring him to court because they think he's innocent. having said that, joe biden knows just like everyone else, he lied on the pistol permit application. joe biden, the man who wants to make sure none of us have guns think it is okay for his son who was a drug addict to get a gun, then throw it away in a garbage can near school. let's beyond that. saying you have to wait for wednesday and you are saying you know what, the truth is that if they have the evidence, they should go forward with it. they have the evidence, that's why there's been two whistleblowers. one from october 2022 and one
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last month. whistleblowers who have documents and evidence because they are not being allowed to come forward and testify because whenever your boss says my son is innocent, he is not guilty, you think garland is going to say forget about what joe says. this is long standing because of all of the problems and all of the hurdles they are trying to get over. joe biden has lied to us about his son over and over again. he lied when he said he knew nothing about his son's oversea business dealings and his son's laptop when he went on a presidential debate to interfere with a presidential election and say 51 intelligent agents say it is disinformation. that white house orchestrated that letter. so joe biden is just as complicit as his son, especially because they are sharing the money. one more thing on the personal
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level, hunter has a child he won't recognize and biden won't recognize his granddaughter. that is the legacy they are not focusing on. >> i like how you didn't keep it personal for the first two minutes. far left agitators shutting down the subway and demanding charges against the marine putting a homeless man in a deadly chokehold. >> tech: when you have auto glass damage, trust safelite. we'll replace your windshield, and recalibrate your advanced safety system. so automatic emergency braking and lane departure warning work properly.
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hold. the agitators not only blocking the tracks but stopping people from getting off the train. >> let me talk. it is a crime what he did. people have to go to work. >> at least 12 people were arrested during the dangerous display. a grand jury could decide as early as this week if the marine could face charges. the marine claims he never intended to harm jordan neely. you have people saying you don't understand the racism perpetrated on the train. >> i look at all those people and i say to myself, why don't they protest on behalf of the mentally ill in the city, mentally ill like neely on i
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think a top 50 list of people who were in desperate need of hospitalization and urgent care based upon his level of mental illness. he was a schizophrenic and ptsd. most of the time i think people protesting don't know what they're protesting about, whether they want to stop traffic for environmental crimes or destroy paintings, they do it to fight about something and it is disappointing. the problem in this case, i don't want to get into the facts again, but when a guy says he's ready to die, if you're a cop or in the military, it has special meaning to you, especially if he's threatening people and five people made phone calls. i wish people understood more than the surface level of what was going on. >> i was going to ask greg about that. what you found out, something
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that happens after the choke hold. >> he was placed in the recovery position somebody looking out for him that put him in the restraint and two other men, one of them not white. i don't know where you get the racist assumption there. it is easy, these people are idiots. they don't work, they have the time to interfere with other people's jobs. these people have nothing to do and this story is such a good story because it reveals that the variables don't matter to them. they want to make this into another george floyd, but this guy actually attacks people and was a danger to himself and a danger to others. we can talk -- by the way, we can talk about this and no one can counter us, we have been talking about mental health on this show while the rest of those jackasses you're looking at there, ignored the problems on the street. everybody here talked about it. we talked about it passionately, we wanted something done.
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we pleaded with de blasio, anybody to please help us. when these people talk about compassion, they're full of crap and i said this a couple days ago, once you are a danger to others, you are a danger to yourself. unless you are on a subway with those cowards. then you can get away with murder. these people wouldn't lift a finger to help you. i'm surprised -- if i was still a journalist, my headline in usa today, beloved street performer, heros protect horrified people. >> he was a charming michael jackson impersonator and in addition to that, there were other problems. >> 43 arrests. "the new york times" did a great piece on this, about 3,000 words on neely and the marine didn't find a thing on the marine. if "the new york times" does a
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deep find on your life and doesn't find a tweet to call you a racist about, the guy is clean. they asked the question at the top, was this a citizen trying to stop someone from hurting others or overreaction to a common new york encounter to a person in new york with a mental illness and they answer the question, he was trying to protect others, not only was he on a top 50 list. do you know how hard it is to be on a top 50 list in new york city, 8 million people? that is really difficult. he was involuntarily committed to mental institutions numerous times. he was a heavy drug abuser. he had four incidents of punching people on the face. two of them on the subway. and he threatened to kill a subway worker. >> the kidnapping. >> the kidnapping of the
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seven-year old and this, breaks this woman's eye socket and nose, gets in front of the judge, cuomo appointee, on the alternative to incarceration court, where they take violent fell f felons and go to rehab. so she cooks up a deal with another liberal white woman, the prosecutor, probably a brag lady and they make this guy go to rehab. in 13 days he abandons the facility and then catch up with him and he starts peeing on everybody and then another time, police have to kick him out of the subway and then a third time and this is what the outreach worker said, he was aggressive, incoherent and could be a harm to himself and others. a couple days later, this is what happens. he was not moon walking on the subway, he was imminent danger to other people. >> threatening.
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>> harold ford, anything you want to say here? >> i'm struck by the families -- you have the deceased family saying it was admission of guilt because of what the marine said, he never intended to harm. i would have to think he didn't do that and i don't think it was admission of guilt. i'm reminded of the families in south carolina with the horrible shooting a decade ago, and the families immediately for gave the young man who came and shot during the prayer service. i think a lot of people around the table may not have forgiven so quickly, something like that happening. two, we need to know all the facts here. i think at the very beginning, judge, i'm going to agree with you, but let me get to the point. there was a reaction from some, especially the protesters somehow know this young man, a reaction greater than the force. the law reads clearly, if you
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have an actual perceived threat, you are allowed to respond proportion nate to the threat. i don't know what the young man jordan neely thought on the train, there are those who said it took 15 minutes to respond to cops and only took them six minutes. i want all of the facts before rushing to judgment. the protesters are embarrassing in a lot of ways and they don't know the facts and blocking people getting off the train going about their lives, working and taking care of their kids and their lives, that is not the right way to do this. i hope we have a flooding of facts more quickly than not and we're able to react more responsibly. >> just one more thing. these protesters were fighting with the police. you know, the police were there in six minutes. and what i don't understand is how they're so ready to fight with the police, the police had nothing to do with his death. it's just this automatic hate the cops. >> right. good talk everyone. coming up, richard dreyfuss says
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>> he fought the shark in jaws and now taking on an even bigger, america's woke insanity. richard dreyfuss is bashing the rules for the oscars, including a certain percentage of actors or crews to be nominated for best picture. >> they make me vomit. >> why? >> because this is an art form. no one should be telling me as an artist that i have to give in
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to the latest most current idea of what morality is. >> okay. i didn't hear what you were saying. now they're saying, you know, that you have to include members of unrepresented groups. what if historically -- it's not honest. it's not an honest representation. are they trying to rewrite history? >> first of all, there's also the sexual orientation part of this. that means you have to find out on your staff -- >> who is trans. >> who is sleeping with who. it is nobody's business. but he's right and wrong. actor's life is pretending you are appropriating other people's lives. that is what so many actresses and actresses are so boring if you talk to them. they are essentially a blank slate. you don't have to get a serial
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killer to play a serial killer. however, the tradition of great white actors playing black roles, that was a necessity due to the scarcity of black actors because hollywood was racist. i don't think you should preserve a tradition if you can get black actors to play -- i don't remember what he was, but he was -- he was talking about lawrence olivia going in black face -- anyway, i'm done now. i'll see myself out. >> okay. it was a good answer, though. >> thank you. >> coming full circle now, isn't it dana, where hollywood gets to experience the fruit of their activism, what they have been telling us to do for years, now they have to do it and he's not so happy. >> i like -- the thing is, he's old enough and respected enough and wealthy enough, like the bulk of his career is behind him. he has the power to say these
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things. how much younger hollywood is listening to him, i don't know. i appreciate an angle he took about the cost. what are we losing in terms of entertainment and ideas and creativity because hollywood is being held hostage by gen z lunatics and i west personally more fraser in the office. >> it won't kill anybody but will in the airline industry if you operate this way. >> yeah. >> did you want to finish that for her? >> no, i'm thinking of a meme i can describe for this. come back to me. i'm working on a meme. >> dog in a house on fire. >> this is fine. >> jesse, what about a movie like by someone like tyler perry, does it apply to him as well? >> no, that's fine, blacks are under represented so you can have all black films.
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>> butn in that. >> trans is done then. >> just like eddie murphy did. >> matilda? he is in that? >> i don't know. >> let's say i'm a director -- this is important. say i'm a director and i want to make a ski romance thriller set in aspen in the 1970s. >> jamie foxx. >> are there going to be asian and hispanic and african american skiers? >> no hawaiians. >> what about the stage hands and lighting people -- they all have to be represented then? what if they don't want to film in 30° weather in the middle of aspen. my art is going to suffer. >> okay. harold. what makes hollywood different than any other industry. you want the most qualified at
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the er or do you need the representation. >> i don't accept because you broaden the representation, you are compromising the quality of what you're going to get, i think we have done that by one group for a long time. but your point is not lost on me. i'm not one to believe there are mandates. you find the best actor. if you find denzel washington or jamie foxx play the best in the setting you outline -- >> skiing in the 70s in aspen. >> but i don't think -- but if you go out and you're not able to cast but you cast this great movie and tell a great story, you shouldn't be discriminated against for being considered for recognition. i'm not afraid of other thought. i think the most important dynamic in a functioning and enduring democracy. but in our world it makes us
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>> welcome back. first up, don't you believe in multi tasking, experts say we're lying to ourselves if we think we can handle 50 billion different things at once because our brains are not wired to juggle that much and can only do one cognitively demanding thing at a time. as someone who is that statement, jesse, how do you feel about that? >> women expect men to multi task. what men are good at, focusing on one thing at a time. >> that's right, you can't. >> and then we move -- but once we're in that zone, we're all in. we can't be doing -- (laughter) i'm talking about around the house. >> of course you are. then you get to the house and can't multi task. >> i have the garbage and dish
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washer situation. >> judge, can you juggle a lot of things at once? >> every woman jungles a lot of things, work in the background, cooking dinner, the dogs want to go outside and you're thinking about the morning and you have the laundry going and it stopped and get it in the dryer before getting wrinkled. give me a break. >> do you agree with jesse? >> the guy who says you can't multi task is stupid, he's a guy. >> i think there are certain things you can do, although i will say that lately one thing i can't do is read the journal page at 7:00 every night so my morning is smoother. trying to watch the shows at the same time and i don't know what just happened and peter will say -- pushes pause, do you need me to remind it. yes, because there are certain things you can multi task and others you can't. >> i feel the same way teaching french to the orphans.
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it is like i try to get through it, but sometimes i think i do too much for other people. you know when you talk about the multi tasking, the real problem is the multi tasking is actually this linear interruption. say you're walking down the hallway, i'm going to get something to eat and picked up the sock and you forget what you're going to do and go to the laundry basket but there's a dish in the bedroom and then you walk over, i'm going to put it in the kitchen and you see the letter you were supposed to mail and you still forget finishing everything else and then you see oh my god, look, i dropped the envelope and you look down, there's a dead body under your couch because you forgot you murdered this person and then you're in tijuana doing porn. >> but listening to a podcast the whole time. >> about orphans. >> let me multi task right now. one more thing is up next. ♪♪
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preorder the new book. that's right. an actual mother's day card. that's it for me. all right. who is next? judge? right? >> judge jeanine: tom cruise has reached new heights in mtv award speech this weekend. take a look. >> thank you, again. for letting me entertain you, it's an absolute privilege. we'll see you at the movies. >> judge jeanine: so cruise actually piloted the plane in honor of pete maverick mitchell from top gun maverick. talk about a high-flying achievement. >> greg: he crashed and died slightly after that video. >> judge jeanine: no he didn't. >> greg: our hearts and minds go out to his families. >> jesse: sixers became friends of one of the michigan mass shootings and invited this guy to the game, john howell, and he said i'm going to dedicate this game to you.
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hit the winning three pointer against the celtics. and then gave the guy signed shoes after the game. really really great moment. >> judge jeanine: bravo. i love. this. >> jesse: r.f.k. jr. says the cia killed his uncle. is he not on the show i think he is on hannity. i think it looks like he is on the show. >> judge jeanine: that's great story. >> dana: podcast with trey gowdy everything will be okay. check it out wherever you get podcasts. >> greg: that's it for us. "special report" suspect next. hi, bret. >> bret: everything will be okay. historically low poll numbers for president biden. brit hume will break it down for us. california takes a major step towards paying billions in slavery rap par rations. we will take you there live. but, first, breaking tonight with just days to go before the end of pandemic-related asylum rules at the southern border. there arar
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