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i have a wonderful family, terrific friends and very fulfilling work. i love working here at fox news. feel like i'm surrounded by family. >> bill: a really great partner. >> dana: great to be here and thank you for all the well wishes. i appreciate it. mom, thank you, mom. that's a picture she sent for dana reads sports. i was three in my cousin's football uniform. harris faulkner is up next. here she is. >> harris: we begin with a fox news alert. title 42 gone in two days. fox exclusive video shows a massive camp of people waiting inside mexico to get into our nation. the border patrol is telling us at fox news this is a quote, the dam is about to break. i'm harris faulkner and you are in "the faulkner focus." yesterday the department of homeland security publicly announced it was launching a law enforcement operation in el paso, texas. the border patrol union is furious saying that the feds
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sabotaged that operation, put those agents in danger potentially. that operation was set to begin and the feds pub politicly announced it. why would they do that? border states are now taking matters into their own hands. texas governor greg abbott deploying a tactical border force of more than 500 troops. abbott getting right to the point saying texas is responding to the chaos caused by biden ending title 42. he sent 1500 men and women from the military to the border to do paperwork. i deployed elite trained soldiers to defend texas. he posted this video showing barbed wire installed across gaps in the border wall where a massive group of illegals tried to cross just a few days ago. what did he tweet?
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wired shut. this hour yesterday we broke the news on the monster-size surge happening even before title 42 expires. more than 26,000 people, nearly 7,500 of them gotaways, which means they are making their way in and we have no idea who at least 7500 people were thereabouts. that happened in three days of this week. watch. >> i'm afraid this horror will not end until joe biden is out of office. >> anybody hotels you the border is under control has lost their mind or is lying. >> they've sent more people to the border to process quickly, release quickly, because they care about the optics. >> harris: in "focus" now brandon judd, national border patrol council president and he
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is actually in the center of that battle with the dhs. we'll get to that. first let's go to bill melugin live at the border in brownsville, texas. an area of extreme activity right now. >> good morning to you. i'm hearing from several very frustrated border patrol and ice contacts hotel me they're flabbergasted that dhs and cbp put out a press release last night announcing this enforcement operation in el paso today targeting these gotaways camped on city streets. sources say they gave up the element of surprise. here is what dhs announced last night in part putting out a press release gaining may 9cbp agents and officers and law enforcement officers from ice will conduct a targeted enforcement operation in el paso, texas. ice and cbp will not taken forcement action in or near a location that would restrain people's access to essential
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services or engagement in essential activities to the fullest extent possible. you just mentioned the border patrol union not happy about this. here is what they tweeted. nothing like publicly announcing that dangerous people will be arrested while warning them ahead of time exactly where to run and hide to avoid arrest. this entire operation is a sad joke. another pandering p.r. stunt. serious law enforcement leaders don't behave this way. in the meantime, we're talking about why we're expecting such big numbers at the border come thursday. take a look at the stunning drone footage. this is video we shot in mexico showing one of the huge migrant camps that have popped up across the river with thousands of migrants inside of it waiting for thursday. waiting until title 42 drops to cross over illegally. this isn't even the only camp. look at the second piece of video down by the river in mexico, another more unofficial
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camp of tentt up in trees, shrubs. they are all along the mexican border as migrants wait until thursday before they cross illegally into the united states. governor greg abbott trying to stop it. he tweeted this video from here in brownsville showing layers of barbed wire they set up in popular crossing areas. they plugged up this particular spot. he knows other spots are going to pop up as well and he says they will block those with razor wire as well. harris, back out here live, multiple cbp sources tell me that last night a decision was made between border patrol and cbp leadership to authorize all border patrol sectors along the southern border to begin mass street releases of migrants to city streets if ngos no longer have capacity. so we can keep an eye out in the next few days or that as i'm told as of this morning there are more than 27,000 migrants in federal custody.
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the highest number i've ever seen. we'll send it back to you. >> harris: massive street releases. that is unbelievable. great reporting as always, bill melugin, thank you. you set it up for us in "focus." national border patrol president brandon judd. let's start with why in the world would the federal government expose your men and women by sabotaging an operation to catch illegal immigrants right before title 42 expires? >> please forgive me. i'm extremely upset right now. this is when activism takes over law enforcement. it should never happen. we should always be able to protect the american people and always be able to protect ourselves in law enforcement operations. you do not give up to criminals where an operation is going to take place before it happens. if you do that, the criminals know all they have to do is flee. if we're truly targeting those individuals that might be here illegally that also have a criminal record, you cannot let them know ahead of time we are going to come and get them.
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we have to do this in secret and we have to do it in a way they don't understand. we also have to protect our men and women because if you send that out to the public, then the public knows where it will happen and if you have people that want to do harm to law enforcement like we've been seeing in this country, then they will also be there. this was absolute pandering to an open border activist base when activism takes over law enforcement and it should never happen. >> harris: flee or worse, i would say. i have stood in parts of your great state in the rio grande sector where people are coming across in camo, the cartels are also arming them. yes, they might flee with a tip from the federal government that your men and women are watching that area and ready to deal with illegal immigrants or they might do something worse. that's why this is so dangerous. >> and it is dangerous to the american people. that's what law enforcement is
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about. laws make us free, not restrict our freedoms. if we follow the rule of law all this chaos we're seeing doesn't happen. we can protect lives if we believe in the rule of law. but any time that you have a white house that wants to pander to activism just look at the west wing. look at all of the political appointees in the west wing come from activist backgrounds. look at dhs. they come from activist backgrounds. they don't come from backgrounds that want to do right by the american people. when it spills to law enforcement this is the chaos we get. we have to recognize laws are about keeping the american people safe. that's what we want to do and we can't do that right now. every single time we put on that uniform we recognize we are doing an impossible job because this administration does not want to support the american people. >> harris: we're grateful and you never have to apologize for bringing your passion and everything you have to the job and the leadership that you give
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at the border patrol council. never, ever. you have support here. look, i have to say this, those mass street releases took my breath away. that's basically what we've had since biden took office. you mean it will get worse? >> so what we try to do is we try to process people under title # and put them into removal proceedings. it doesn't mean they'll be removed and what is frustrating about the message that commissioner miller sent out when he said they will be removed. that's not true. yes, we'll process them for removal proceedings but ultimately they will be released to the united states but release them -- transfer them to ice or give them to the ngos. not release them into streets. that's what we see now. because we're so overwhelmed we don't have the resources. we have the capacity to hold 10,000 people in custody. right now we're approaching 30,000 people. when title 42 goes away it will surge to even more and that's
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what will require the street releases. when you release them into the street, that's what makes the american public less safe. then the burden falls on all these cities on yuma, sierra vista, brownsville, mcallen. el paso. we can't do that. that's not proper enforcement nor is it right by the american people to expect them to shoulder this burden. this is the federal government's job. this is biden's job and he is failing to do that job. >> harris: real quickly i know in the state of arizona, you mentioned some arizona area that will really be influenced by the fact that this dam is about to break from a border patrol source like yourself. senators kelly and sinema in arizona sent a combined letter to homeland security secretary mayokas asking for money to do all the things that you are talking about so some of those ngos can also take part in what's about to happen. they got some of that cash.
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it sound like it hasn't been enough across the states. i just wanted to infuse that. what's going on in capitol hill now could play a big role if democrats will come along as well.act. they are preparing the bill today for a planned vote thursday as title 42 would be expiring. the white house already says the president will veto it. watch. >> it would lead to more unlawful migration by blocking off lawful pathways to protection. instead of providing the needed resources for more border security technology and asylum officers and judges it would waste taxpayer dollars on an ineffective wall. if the president were presented with hr2 he would veto it. >> harris: what wall isn't effective? even the vice president comes from a state where there was a wall. maybe that's why they shouldn't have made her the border czar.
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she didn't get it. >> that's the activism and law enforcement is not being considered. we could stop this tomorrow. we don't need more money. we don't need the taxpayer to shoulder this burden. just put proper policies in place. you can claim asylum. that's a legal right for anybody to claim asylum but you won't be released into the united states. if we stop releasing people into the united states they will stop coming. it is proven time and time again. if we went back to policies like remain in mexico this would end tomorrow. they don't want it to end. >> harris: i have to be quick here. you have to go protect the nation. the sovereignty of this country. what's at stake on thursday if mayokas and the rest really got this wrong? >> cartels will control our complete border. right now they control portions of the border. when this dam breaks cartels will control everything, fentanyl will pour into the country. more lives will be loss in the
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united states and that's what the outcome of this. >> harris: brandon judd leading the border patrol union. the federal government targeting your own operations to catch illegal immigrants. it's unreal. stay safe. thank you. >> thank you. appreciate it. >> harris: high stakes today at the white house as if the crisis at the border weren't already making it so. this is even more. president biden is finally meeting with the house speaker kevin mccarthy on the debt crisis that would cripple the entire country. the president still says he is not going to negotiate. he will just sit with them. if nothing gives our nation defaults in three weeks. house republicans are vowing they will hold the biden family accountable to the law of the land in that investigation. watch. >> no one is above the law. put your money where your mouth is and have this family investigated to the fullest extent of the law. d.o.j. and f.b.i. won't do it.
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we'll do it for them. >> harris: the committee chair says he has a big reveal coming tomorrow calling it judgment day. senator ron johnson in "focus" next. ♪ this is going to be great. taking the shawl off. ok i did it. is he looking at my hairline? is plaque psoriasis making you rethink your everyday choices? otezla is a pill, not a cream or injection that can help people with plaque psoriasis achieve clearer skin. and no routine blood tests required.
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capitol hill at this point. they have to find a solution. republicans did their job and put a deal on the table led by spending cuts. the white house wants the debt ceiling raised without any conditions. no cuts, nothing. and it is accusing republicans of manufacturing a crisis. here is senator tom cotton of arkansas. >> the idea that always increase the debt ceiling with no spending reforms or any other measures included. that is ahistorical. it is saying we shouldn't have a debt ceiling. every time the debt ceiling is coming up we'll lift it. what joe biden will have to sit down with speaker mccarthy and reached a responsible solution that increases the debt ceiling but addresses our runaway spending. >> harris: a new op-ed argues no, the constitution cost not let biden spend at will, compromise on the debt ceiling already. in "focus" now senator ron johnson. republican of wisconsin.
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member of the homeland security budget and finance committees. great to have you in "focus." first of all, what needs to happen at this meeting with the president of the united states? >> what should happen, as you mentioned, the house passed a more than reasonable package of spending restraint. the pro-growth elements. and also increase the debt ceiling to avert a fake crisis. no way with responsible treasury secretary and responsible president we would ever default. this is a phony crisis but that's what happens in washington. they should pass the house bill. it could be over and we could start responsibly passing appropriation bills. restore some function to congress. but again this place is so unbelievably dysfunctional and the mainstream media continues to prop up the biden administration and talking about it turning into a crisis. it doesn't have to be so.
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>> harris: the crisis is quite real if the president doesn't get his act together and do what he has to do. how can they say they'll veto something from the white house when i'm not even convinced everybody has read it? >> well, first of all has to be passed by the senate. taken up by chuck schumer. understand how reasonable this is. senate were working with conservatives in the house urging them to come up with things we could attach to the debt ceiling to increase the debt ceiling and institute fiscal control. house conservatives were reasonable in passing what they passed. we made more than enough concession. i would like to return to a baseline based on pre-pandemic levels. we spent 4.4 trillion prior to the pandemic recession. during the recession over 6 trillion. we returned in this bill to a
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baseline of 2022. it is better than what biden wants to do but a long way from where we need to go. what should happen here is the senate should pass the house bill and president should sign it and we would be done with this. >> harris: it is quite convincing when you see democrats also putting some pressure on this president. they can see this president actually taking us right up to the brink and they don't want that to happen. they don't want a manufactured crisis to become a real one. but then you have the president who has already said he won't negotiate and that's why i wonder if he has even read it. everybody has something that they would say when someone puts a bill on the table, even a 14-page outline that aoc put on for green energy. everybody had something to say about it. this is longer than that, of course. the president once again insisting his son has done nothing wrong. ahead of possible federal criminal charges for hunter
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biden. constitutional scholar jonathan turley said joe biden says hunter has done nothing wrong, really? he lays out a host of evidence pointing to criminal acts. argues the tax and gun charges, federal prosecutors have been investigating, are only the beginning. house oversight chairman james comer said he and his colleagues plan to drop a bombshell. some evidence against hunter and the biden family tomorrow. let's watch. >> it will be judgment day tomorrow for the white house. we are going to present the american people with the facts. the facts about what the biden family has been doing. we'll present bank records tomorrow. we'll also talk about the different people that they were taking money from. their ties to foreign nationals in some of the worst countries on the planet. and i think the american people will have a lot of questions for joe biden. >> harris: the u.s. attorney investigating that tax and gun
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case is expected at any point to announce whether he will file charges. senator johnson, i'm hearing it from both sides of the aisle. if you've got something, start subpoenaing people. the democrats especially because the president's approval rating is so low. how can they run him if they can't move forward? what is your thought, will ahead and bring forth and subpoena people? >> senator grassley and i laid out as much evidence as anybody would need to lay out that the biden family is corrupt, president biden would be highly compromised. the corrupt media censored it and reelected president biden. here we are. one thing we don't talk enough about. i know president biden is so proud of his son. we have the evidence that hunter biden paid for -- paid tens of thousands of dollars for prostitutes that were sex trafficked through an international sex trafficking ring. yes, ick.
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president biden offered to pay for $1 hundred thousand of hunter biden's bills when he was spending tens of thousands of dollars on these women who are sex trafficked. now, that is at a minimum morally reprehensible and wrong. the president is defending? >> harris: wouldn't that be a felony if you do business with a sex trafficking ring? that's more than ethically offensive. >> it is grotesque but the media doesn't concentrate on it. we had it in our report. we had the financial transactions proofing it. james comer does the same thing. it is so icky people don't want to talk about it. it is galling to hear the president talk about how proud he is of hunter. he enables this. he enables it by propping up his son both in terms of those types of words as well as financially. it a pretty sick. >> harris: the irony in what you
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shared. the president's son wanted to fight his child support because the family doesn't want to recognize that child as legitimate. the irony would be is what if that child -- you said prostitutes paid for by hunter biden, that going through a sex trafficking ring, so how does the family not know about that if they are denying a baby that potentially came from that very source? i know -- we don't know what we don't know but that was quite a bombshell you just dropped and you are right. people aren't reading deep enough. when they do, they don't report it. we will definitely do that. it is very icky but those are the facts. >> it moves again how morally bankrupt the biden family is and president biden. i have grandchildren. regardless how they were conceived if it was proven i had a grandchild i would do everything i could to have a relationship with that grandchild to make sure they were taken care of. president biden just wants to
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completely ignore the existence of a grandchild. morally bankrupt. >> harris: senator johnson from wisconsin. thank you for being in "focus" today. the latest batch of polling could spell even more trouble for the president. it is only tuesday. it hasn't been a good week. biden's approval rating has hit a dismal new low as he loses big time with one of his largest voting blocks. plus the white house choosing when it comes to press access to the president. cherry picking. the "new york post" banned from an event just yesterday. one post columnist says it is just not okay. >> it is appalling. obviously we have hit a nerve with the biden administration. it is not their press room, it is not joe biden's press room. it's the people's press room. uh... here i'll take that. ensure max protein with 30 grams of protein,
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white house for reportedly barring several reporters from president biden's only daytime public event yesterday. the president and transportation secretary pete buttigieg were talking about airline policies. the president didn't take any questions. that's not a shocker. one of those journalists who was banned was from the "new york post." that outlet was closely -- has closely covered the biden family's business dealings and investigations. columnist miranda devine. >> it's not joe biden's press room. it's the people's press room. for an administration that is probably the most untransparent of any in recent memory and the most opaque and the president, who is the least accessible, to do this should be causing an outrage with the rest of the media. they should boycott that press room. i think they're quite happy to
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be -- >> harris: the "new york post" fired back in typical fashion with today's front page, . guesses including the staff wanting to shield the president about questions about hunter or maybe he will blow up if asked about the border for debt ceiling. we wonder if they think he can't handle reporters, just what duties are they trusting him with? power panel now, david avella, richard fowler. david, i come to you first. that headline and those remarks from the "new york post" saying a lot. >> keep in mind president biden has told us he is smarter than the vast majority of americans. that might include me and you, maybe not richard. he might be smarter than president biden. but he is missing an opportunity to tell americans why he believes his ideas that we
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should get rid of gas stoves, washing machines should use less water, why a million americans coming across the border in the next two days are all to americans' benefit. ultimately he is missing an opportunity. but i suspect when you think you are smarter than most people you don't have to tell people why you are doing what you do. you should just accept it. and that is the approach this white house takes. and certainly as you look throughout his cabinet the approach the cabinet takes. >> harris: richard, i will come to you on what's happened with barring reporters. i want to add this to the mix. a "washington post" opinion article notes that president biden has yet to hold solo news conference in 2023. it calls it lack of press conferences unacceptable. here is a quote. taking questions from the media promotes public accountability and instills confidence that he can do the job. it is widely known that mr. biden is gaffe prone but as he runs for a second term, he should be eager to show he can
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handle all aspects of the job. one more, the president says if you want to see if he can do the job, watch me. well, we're watching. richard. >> i tend agree with it. he should hold a press conference and answer questions of the media. >> harris: why do you think he doesn't? >> ask him and the press team. i disagree with david, yesterday the president was announcing new regulation and airlines who treat customers terribly. that didn't need any question. >> harris: are you saying that a room full of reporters don't have good questions about the topic that the head of transportation -- >> that's not what i said. >> harris: you said it didn't need any questions about airline policies. i can think of plenty. >> we can all agree that airlines treat customers pretty terribly these days. i give you southwest airlines. but where the "new york post"
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headline is incorrect is the new white house guidelines that are put out for journalists is a simple one. before you can get a hard pass to come in and out of the white house as you please as a press person you have to be credentialed with another branch of government. the supreme court or the u.s. congress. if you aren't credentialed there you need a letter from a reputable news outlet to say you are qualified to get a hard pass. >> harris: do you think the "new york post" reporter would have had that? >> he was not banned from the press room. they were not allowed to attend an event that was an event open to the public. >> harris: to other media with 20 empty seats. >> it wasn't a press event. >> harris: i don't know how many days you've spent as a journalist. >> many days and have a degree in journalism. >> harris: it was an he event open to other media and 20 empty
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seats. >> but you also know as a journalist -- >> harris: we'll move on. david, i come to you first. president biden as job approval hitting a historic low for the first time. we dig in. the top line number now, or bottom line. the president just 36% approval. a new poll this week, americans are sounding off on. >> i would say c, c minus. >> below an f rating. i don't think he should be running again. he is doing the best he can with what he has. >> no way he can turn it around. it's a mess. >> harris: another new poll shows president biden bleeding support with one of his critical voting blocks, his approval among black voters is now at 58%. down from 90% during his first few months in office. and fewer than half now say they want him to run again. maybe moments like this are
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playing into those feelings. >> president biden: my name is joe biden. [laughter] >> president biden: i've never won an academy award. [laughter] >> president biden: i can't act, can't sing, can't dance. can't do much of anything. >> harris: david. >> the coalition that elected the president in 2020 is falling apart. so the question is as we look to those battlegrounds of wisconsin and michigan and pennsylvania, what will this white house and this campaign do to try to get those voter blocks to come back? are we going to allow randi weingarten to push education policy in the country and see worker freedom diminished by the white house deciding they are against right to work? this becomes a very dangerous white house in that as they try to put voter groups together to get him reelected, the policies that will come out of this white house are going to be pretty
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dramatic in moving our country in the wrong direction, which is why you see so many americans opposed to his policies. >> harris: you know, i know, richard and other democrats are quick to talk about president trump. i will jump the shark here and in a positive way for black voters. we saw the lowest unemployment in this country in 50 years under president trump. unfortunately we saw the coronavirus pandemic. the drop from 90% approval rating to 58% in the black community can only speak to what's happening if their lives under this president. and what would that be, richard? >> look, i think david once again there he goes ago, i don't know how we got to talking about. i'll answer your question. i don't know how we got to talk about randi weingarten. you are right. if this race was happening today it would be a race between joe biden and donald trump and i think if you talk to black voters, a lot of them would say
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maybe we don't like either of the candidates but if it's a toss-up between joe biden >> harris: can you answer my question about why joe biden has gone from 90 to 58% approval rating? we don't stère all the time in the world. go. >> i don't deny this. i think you have to look at this the voters are going to the ballot box picking two candidates. black voters are frustrated because if it's him versus donald trump they will likely vote for him over donald trump for a myriad of reasons. i can list them. >> to clarify for richard, the reason why he is going after randi weingarten he needs the teachers union and the reason he is going after right to work policy to get the labor union support. it is about putting coalitions together and why what the white house will do in the next year. >> harris: it's a big gap 90 to
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58%. you even upset south carolina jumping over other states to try to get black voters and biden is bleeding them. great to see you both. always a great conversation and i love the purple ties. they are so handsome. the biden green team is at it again. first it was your gas stoves and air conditioners, now they are cracking down on another key appliance. the new rules that could end up costing you more of your hard-earned cash. plus the battle continues when it comes to parental rights. >> we're having these ridiculous conversations that are not front and center to what our children need right now, schools, transparency for parents and making sure that parents have more control, not less. >> harris: two families are taking legal action over what they say is a secret school club that pushes gender transition on students. middle schoolers. one of those parents who filed
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the amount of water it can use. the department of energy says the new rules will save people money. however, manufacturers say the changes may force you to run your dishwasher more often and that will be just to get the dishes clean. that, of course, would end up costing you more money, using more water, which i guess for green people you would think that would be a thing. joe concha with this hot take. >> if i go to a restaurant then guess who will pay for this ultimately? the person eating the food, right? everybody is already stretched too thin as it is. priorities are all out of whack. there is a war on home grown energy in this country and yet they are trying to pass all these rules. it is 31 flavors of stupid and insanity. >> harris: i feel bad for the small businesses. they are short on time getting stuff done already and now rewash their dishes. gerri willis live at an appliance store in new york city. gerri. >> that's right.
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biden is now focusing on your dishwasher, right, for these new green reforms. in 2027 the department of energy's new rules will go into effect and they require more stringent use of energy and water. so at the end of the day you will be using 27% less energy, 34% less water. that means let me show you a dishwasher like this would only be able to use three ton two gallons of water versus the five gallons it can use now. the owner of the appliance store didn't know about the rules. who do you think will pay for this? you said it before, the american consumer. listen. >> the department of energy claims that these efficiency standards save consumers money on their utility bills. the problem is they can raise the upfront cost, the cost of buying these appliances so much
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you may never earn back the upfront cost in terms of savings. >> the department of energy claims people will pay $15 more per unit for the new dishwashers and say you will save $3 billion with smaller utility bills over 30 years. this is one of the cheapest units on the entire showroom floor. $529. it uses five gallons of water. unless they change this baby they'll have to put this on the store shelf and never sell it. harris, back to you. >> harris: gerri willis, thank you very much. >> there is a lot of displays in almost every classroom kind of encouraging students to accept a certain point of view rather than focusing on learning. >> i want to teach
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shakespeare's. >> no teacher should have to lie to parents about anything. >> harris: even some teachers are against the policies that shred parental rights when it comes to gender transitioning. some are telling their staffs or should or have to keep a student's gender choice from the parents. two parents are suing a school district. our team reached out to the school district for comment and waiting to hear back. erin lee is the mom of one of those girls in the secret club and here with pam bondi, the former florida attorney general representing the families in this case. great to have you both. what did your child tell you was going on in this club? >> so she was new to school. a shy, introverted kid. one tuesday her art teacher asked her to stay after school for art club. we gave our consent for her to
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attend art club that day. when she got there she quickly learned it was actually gender and sexuality awareness club. not just that, but the art teacher had invited in an outside presenter into the classroom that day and this woman did unthinkable things with the kids. she used flags to describe umbrella terms telling the kids they aren't fully comfortable in their biological sex it means they're transgender. queer is a term to use while still figuring out your sexuality. she talked about polley -- the new labels they just adopted made them more likely to commit suicide and talked about suicide. she talked to them about puberty blockers and cross section hormones. she said that their parents might not be safe. they don't have to tell parents where they are not just for this meeting but for future meetings she holds in the community. she runs an organization called skittles for kids 5-11 to
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discuss gender and sexuality. the art teacher pulled my daughter aside as she was leaving and said remember, you don't have to tell your parents. >> harris: you don't have to. is there a shouldn't that is attached to that? >> as we later found out. as multiple families have come forward, their daughters followed the rules. the number one rule is what you hear in here stay in here. many parents didn't even know their children was attending the club for a year without their knowledge. >> harris: talk to me about the legality. >> we're so proud to represent these families. we have to demand accountability and transparency in our education system. these are taxpayer-funded teachers who are doing this. we want to send a nationwide message to these school systems, these parents and school boards that parents govern their children, not these teachers. and we are going to give them
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the tools that they need, our parents, to protect them against indoctrination and all these crazy things they're doing. it is hard enough to raise a child in this world. they don't need to be talked about a sex change in an after school program. >> harris: in a secret club. i will bring you back. i want an update as it goes forward. erin and pam. thank you. "outnumbered" after the break. veteran homeowners, have you looked at the interest rates on your credit cards
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