right now it is not effective management at all. you ask anybody, they will tell you the same thing. >> neil: sheriff, thank you. you always spell it out black-and-white for us. we need to hear that give in the meantime, keep you updated on this meeting still going on at the white house. democrats and republicans trying to find a way to keep the government lights off and pay first when we presumably run out of money. "the five" is next. ♪ ♪ >> jeanine: hello, everyone. i'm judge jeanine pirro along with harold ford jr., jesse watters, dana perino, and greg gutfeld. it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five." ♪ ♪ fox news alert. former president trump says he will appeal and calls the verdict "a disgrace" after a jury finds him liable of

sexual battery and defamation. e. jean carroll claims the former president attacked her in a department store in the 1990s. trump ordered to pay her $5 million. bryan llenas is following the breaking news. >> judge, good evening. and less than three hours of deliberations, a jury of mine unanimously found former president trump liable of sexual battery, specifically finding he sexually abused and forcibly touched e. jean carroll in a department store in 1996. they also found him liable for defamation, finding he maliciously smeared carroll's reputation and must pay carroll $5 million in damages. the jury did not find trump liable for rape, which was the central claim from carroll. trump told fox news digital he will appeal this decision. to post on truth social, trump wrote "is a very unfair trial" and said "i have absolutely no idea who this woman is." this verdict is a disgrace, a continuation of the greatest witch hunt of all time."

this was a civil case, which means the burden of proof was lower than a criminal case. carroll did not have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that this happened to her, only that it was more likely than not that it did. carroll says any chance encounter at the luxury department store bergdorf goodman in 1996, trump us to help her buy a gift for a woman and she voluntarily went into into the dressing room where she said trump attacked her. carroll took the stand, as did two other friends who corroborated her story, and two other women who were allowed to testify of their allegations of being broke and forcibly kissed fear of also the excess hollywood tape in 2005 i caught him saying "when you are a star, you can do anything" to women. trump chose not to testify in this case but he did give a video deposition that was played for the jury. >kamala he wants attorneys used that deposition and his decision not to testify against him. judge? >> jeanine: brian, thanks so much. now let's turn to this.

the empty podium president is getting called out as a coward by the liberal media. it's no secret that the white house likes to keep biden on a tight leash. the big guy has not held a solo news conference yet this year. and now, "the washington post" is shaming him with this scathing headline: "biden no longer does press conferences. that's not acceptable." ouch. it goes on to say "president biden has not dropped the microphone, he appears to have lost it. mr. biden is turning into a news media evade or, and it is harmful to his presidency and te nation." and when he is not dodging questions come he's outright banning outlets. "the new york post" says a reporter was barred from an event at the white house. and watch as joe's team had to come to the rescue during a softball interview. >> you talk about fighting for the soul of america. but can we level set in terms of the soul of america right now?

hate crimes are on the rise, random acts of gun violence, women are under attack -- mr. president. >> the answer is yes because that is why we can't let -- we cannot let this election be one where the same man who is the president four years ago becomes president again. >> jeanine: okay. you know, dana, he started to say obama, and then he clearly couldn't remember who was president four years agos not ag press conferences. his staff won't let him. >> dana: well, it's interesting. it is a tale as old as time. every press person knows you never do that, you never interrupt come in a live interview, your principal. that makes you look terrible, makes the team looked terrible, most important it makes the president of the united states look awful. when you do an interview, there is a risk to it. but if the president of the united states can do a friendly

interview where she was asking him about the soul of america, that has been his stump speech. that is what he has been talking about, and they think he can't answer it, to the point where they interrupt an interview with a family reporter? i honestly can't believe it. it gives me a lot of heartburn to think about it. on "the washington post" editorial, reporters do not like it when there is no access. i couldn't believe it is may and he is still not done any solo news conferences and half a year and the rest of the press corps has not said anything. when it comes down to biden or any republican, the -- of the other thing is on "the new york post," the white house could say there is several outlets that couldn't go in, et cetera, but just be a little smarter. if you have a huge story that you know is coming down the pike regarding the president's son and you are going to go after the paper that has led the way and others have had to follow

them, if you ban them from coming to a silly event about the transportation sector, where the president does not even taking questions, you will take a ton of heat, even if it is needless. so they should be a little bit smarter on that, too. >> jeanine: okay, jesse, you know, the truth is they excluded "the post." how different is this than eliminating freedom of the press? because if you recall, "the post" was the one that have a story on hunter biden, that the fbi and big tech colluded to make sure the info did not get out. it is like they want to shut down their first amendment freedom of the press rights. >> jesse: yeah, they do. imagine having nukes. imagine having a body guy next to you to squirt parole in your hand after you shake hands. imagine having a chef, secret service, anything, and being scared of our very own stupid peter doocy. or new "new york post" reporter.

the president of the message is scared because we are about to find out what his family have been up to for a very long time here not only that, he is physically and mentally unfit. and the country has caught onto that. i asked peter doocy how often the president on air force one ever comes back and speaks to the press in the back. he said he can only remember one time in two and half years, and it was off the record. that is why they say, you know, president biden has given less press conferences than all of these other presidents in the last 100 years except nixon and reagan. then i look back, nixon used to go and talk to the press. nixon did tv interviews, print interviews. reagan was constantly talking to the media. biden does not do it ever, and even when he does a gaggle in front of marine one, it is yes, no, haven't decided yet. when you talk about interviews he does, he doesn't sit down with real reporters. he sits down with jason bateman.

no offense to jason bateman. >> greg: he's a good actor. >> jesse: if i could look like any other person besides myself, i would look like jason bateman. but jason bateman is not going to ask him anything. and he's got al roker, and he's got drew barrymore, and they are checking those as interviews off the list. so, biden is in a catch-22 peter if he hides like last time, he loses. but if they let him loose, and he is exposed, he also -- he might actually lose worse. so the safer play might be to let him stay and hide and the fact "the washington post" said this is unacceptable, that is about as strong as a statement as you'll get from "the washington post" against a democrat. >> jeanine: all right, greg, so biden walks off, i think we are more familiar with the back of his head then the front of his face. >> greg: what are you saying? >> jeanine: you know exactly what i'm saying. put his foot in his mouth, can't remember trump's name and substitute obama's name, even before he was clueless, even

before a cognitive decline, the guy was always stealing other people's thoughts and words. the truth is he was a plagiarist. so now, we have a plagiarist in cognitive decline and can't come up with anything. >> greg: it sucks when you are a plagiarist and in cognitive decline because you are losing other people's memories. [laughter] but in his defense, they can't have him talk to the press because the bright lights come he just keeps walking toward them. >> jesse: i mean, can't get any better. >> greg: they should replace his chief of staff with a visiting angel. [laughter] you know what is funny about the press? they lamented this lack of access, but when it is granted to them, they pull a stephanie rule almost every time an answer the tough questions for him because really it is not as of they want to speak truth to power, they just want the optics and extra new pay to on the wikipedia page, like when you go out with somebody in the order and expense of dinner and don't eat it, that is the press. they just want to sit there and take a picture of the meal.

remember when the rnc 2012, clint eastwood came out and talk to an anti-chair? he was off by about, almost eight years or so. joe is an empty chair. actually an empty space because if you look at the leadership, look at crime, the economy, fentanyl, china, immigration, he is a vacuum. that is the emblem of this administration and this is why they did not want any primary debates because rfk jr., who is he going to debate? who will he debate? this is quite a time to be alive where we have no idea who is running the country. it is not that guy. it is not him. it is somebody else. he even admitted it. we played that tape when he said, a second of rare clarity from biden when he says, i don't give orders, i just take them. so, there you go. >> jeanine: all right, harold. you know what, this vacuum that greg is talking about also applies to his press secretary, karine jean-pierre. she gets out there and starts

talking about airlines. and there is a question that comes in focusing on the economy, border, the debt ceiling, and they say, well, how can you possibly talk about airlines? she says memorial day is coming up. that is what americans are worried about. are they that clueless? >> harold: there is a lot there. i would not have led with the memorial day thing. [laughter] i'll say this. happy birthday, coming up on a minute, jesse, you dream about dunking. jason bateman. this is great material here. >> jesse: chew up that time, harold. [laughter] >> harold: i call balls and strikes. i criticized desantis for not going on "the view." i like the lead in, give me -- i think the president is wrong not to do these press conferences, and he is wrong, he should be mindful of the fact "the post" is saying what they are saying. not told put him out and let him begin this campaign on his own footing and the earnest and positive way he wants. i think you have to lay out a reason why we should give you four more years. the country.

i am a democrat, i am inclined to be there for you would give us the reason for the four years. you can wrap that in what we have done over the last two or three years, including on infrastructure and the chips act and things you have done to bring the country together. admit where you have not been successful. i think the country likes that humility. these are the kind of things i think you should be doing. >> jeanine: why is he and capable? >> harold: i don't know if he is incapable, he is just not doing it. >> jeanine: why? is he lazy or incapable? >> harold: he is the president of united states, but be careful. >> jeanine: oh, i am careful. >> harold: he beat somebody, he beat a guy you guys know. >> jeanine: why isn't he talking to the american people? >> harold: i don't know the answer. i think it should be doing that, judge, and i agree with you. he is the president and not doing the job he should be doing getting ready for reelection. i agree with you. i don't agree with some of the other premises but he should be doing better and not dodging the press, i agree with that absolutely. >> jeanine: we agree. okay come up next, liberal california moving ahead with a reparations plan that comes with a staggering price tag.

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♪ ♪ >> dana: california governor gavin newsom is so far silent as the reparations debate heats up in his state. task force have approved a plan that can make cash payments to certain black residents up to $1.2 million per person, total price tag an estimated $800 billion. that is more than two and half times the state's entire budget. activists sounding off at a hearing. >> do not think you are going to win your election if you don't have a concrete plan for reparation. >> the equivocal number from

1860s, for 40 acres today, is $200 million, for each and every african american. >> no reparations, no vote. >> pay the debt, cut the check, or no reparations, no vote, 2024. >> dana: all right, harold, what is the message governor newsom can take away from that? >> harold: came to me first on this one. i think a couple of things. one, the state doesn't have the money to do the kind of things, at least i have read and some of the reports, unless you have a different packet than me, i read through the numbers here. it looks as if they could be upwards near a trillion dollars. i think we should recognize there was a harm done. and the question is, how do you make up for that harm? i thought, greg, when we spoke about this weeks ago if not months ago, you laid out, i thought, a pretty thoughtful and smart and really impactful going

forward way to deal with this. how do we invest more? we talk about in education and job opportunities and economic empowerment and broadband in these communities. this might be an opportunity for governor newsom and the legislators there to think long and hard about what can we do going forward within our means here? i hear the political talk, and maybe there are those who will not support democrats or support republicans, for that matter, anyone who does not support reparations bureau i'm not convinced. i've never seen that platform or agenda win. what i could see people wrapping around and the governor rallying around a something that a smart. rich kids have tutors. kids and some of these neighborhoods should have tutors. we should create an education platform it gives people 24 access like my kids and your kids are blessed to have and your kids were blessed to have. these are the things we can do, to have a longer term impact. as much as i like this idea, the idea of people being -- it is unrealistic to think it is going to happen. i would think it is better to have something than nothing and i think you gave a great start for that. >> dana: would you like to

expand on your great idea? >> greg: to is tougher harold, you are biracial so you're going to take money from one pocket and put it in the other. [laughter] >> jesse: he pays himself reparations? >> greg: this could be an amazing strategy on the governor's part. the end is so hysterical, there is nothing you can do about it, and then just kind of push it off, so nothing happens. there is no way this is happening. it's not possible. is not possible. first, you have to calculate, blacks who came here after slavery, blacks who might have descended of blacks who sold and what about the whites who came after? this is not possible, instead realize the argument itself hurts blacks by dangling this false reward, false promise that cements a victim complex, instead making education free and certain parts of education compulsory. if you decide you want reparations, okay, getting a tutor whether you like it or not. you are getting four years of college whether you like it or not. this is probably why joe is losing blacks and minorities in

general, because of this obsession on race and turning everybody into a victim. doesn't help them. the better message is work hard, go to school, stay out of trouble. if you are a minority, dude, you are going to own us. you are going to be ceos. you are going to be running businesses. i feel like the white left has lied to blacks for so long about these things that it's doing them no good. after obama was president, the idea of how racist this country was was very low, until the media decided to repeat the phrases and the phrase ends, thousands of phrases until finally, now only democrats, a majority of democrats, think everything is racist. they have done this to blacks, they do this to trans, they do this to hispanics. i'm sorry, you are not going to get millions of dollars per person. trans kids is not a thing. latinx is not a thing. these are lies created by white

progs, that's it. >> dana: that's an interesting point. it made me think, judge come about people having the expectations raised so high that they think they're going to get a million dollars or $2 million. >> jeanine: this is another divide that is being created, where you convince a segment of the population that they are victims, that they are owed something, you get them all fired up, and if they don't get it, then they revolt or they hate or, you know, violence leads to, you know, retaliation, and it goes on and on, community unrest. that is what hate is, violence, retaliation, unrest. the thing is -- and i'm trying to figure this out -- like, who pays? if i am a payer, is it unfair to me of my family wasn't even in the country in the 1800s or the 1860s? and then california never had. and then, what dna test do we do to decide if your family was in georgia and really was a slave. this is just delusional

nonsense. and the upshot of it is, it is all about pandering. california already $22 billion in debt, and you know what? gavin newsom owns it. he signed the bill that created this task force. it is an all-black task force. i think there was one japanese person on it or one asian person on it. and you know what? you sign up, you pay them now. you are the one who made the promise vehicle in the end, we talked about this yesterday, all of the pandering that biden has done to the minorities is not paying off your the blacks on with him come hispanics out with them, the numbers are going off among women and moderates. this is nothing more than a divisive effort to keep people to hate one another and think they are owed something. >> dana: how would this affect gavin newsom if he really did want to run for president? is a probably a 10/90 issue. >> jesse: you mean they are going to hate him? there is an episode of

"the office" where michael scott promises to pay college tuition for an entire class of black students. gavin scott is michael newsom. gets everyone riled up for a big payday, there is no payday. $100 million surplus in california, now in debt. to pull this off you have to raise taxes on each person in california $25,000. there is no money to make this work, so it is not even worth talking about. plus, talk about how divisive this is, 75% of blacks want reparations, just 25% of whites want it. majority of the country's white. think about how that is going to go. a lot of pro-whites not happy, and a lot of angry white women even unhappier. >> dana: yesterday we set i would do a segment describing beings and i think jesse could do one describing scenes from the office of "the friends," ane

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for these open drug areas, and then what they saw was an increase not only in the amount of drug users, but in the death, a spiraling increase in the deaths, i think a 5-year-old dying of fentanyl is really what made it unpalatable for them any longer. so they are criminalizing what they decriminalized. i mean, shocked, the decriminalization didn't work. the curious part of the whole thing is the biden administration has what they call harm reduction strategy where biden is putting out $5 million to create safe injection sites, and the two areas where they're going to do it is outside of nyu in new york city and brown in providence, rhode island, okay, so what is going to happen there is there going to have a home of these open air drug sites and people are going to be dying at fornicating and defecating just like they do on the streets and they're going to say, gee, that isn't a good idea. in the end, i think what they need to do is recognize we have a real problem in this country.

china does not have the problem. china, in fact, setting a lot of its fentanyl over to mexico and then to us. you know it is a death penalty crime in china to be involved in drug trafficking, and they are similarly harsh when it comes to drug use. and the drug use, they end up sending you to an isolation camp for two years. you know, the last thing we need to do is decriminalize anything. and maybe do what china is doing, not the death penalty, but we've got to get rid -- we have to get rid of some of this. >> harold: criminalize -- undo these decriminalization laws here in america around use of cannabis and others? >> jesse: oh, is greg going to take it on the chin again? >> greg: what do you mean? >> jesse: every once in a while, this is one of those moments -- >> greg: use your facts, jesse. >> jesse: we did this story last year when portland did the same thing, and oregon, and that

all of these over deaths, this explosion -- >> greg: what caused that? >> jesse: another town in washington -- >> greg: what caused that? >> jesse: an explosion of overdoses and everyone dying on drugs. >> greg: what caused it? >> jesse: would you come america, like to live in a city run by judge jeanine and her chinese antidrug cohorts? or would you like to live in portlandia with greg gutfeld as mayor, where everybody just piles of dead on the streets, but everybody is having a good time? >> greg: this is the problem with cable tv. >> jesse: i don't want to live in either of those places bureau i want to live in a normal place, like new jersey. >> greg: there is no drugs in jersey. you guys are conflating decriminalization with legalization. i am not for decriminalization. i am for legalization. the criminalization has no effect on the supply. hence the overdoses. the person who mistakes one pill

for another, the heroin that is mixed with fentanyl, that is due to the fact that the drugs are unsafe. legalizing creates a commercial safe product. what was the statistic from a 50,000 people died during prohibition because they were mixing industrial alcohol to make drinks. that went away what it once it was legalized vehicle you are conflating a legal with legal, you'd be really mad if we did that with firearms, wouldn't we? get those illegal drugs off the street, get illegal drug know my guns off the street, now we're talking about distinctions. >> jesse: 11 overdose reports and one day. >> greg: you are making my point. you just made my point. there would not be overdoses if it was a commercially safe product. >> jesse: every time they go down the road you want to go to -- >> greg: you are talking about -- >> jesse: it is -- >> jeanine: a black market and

make money. there will always be those people. >> greg: that's what you make a real market. >> harold: dana? >> dana: in this town of bellingham, 223 people died in three months, two under the age of five, so imagine in your local news you wake up every day, in three months, 223 people have died and we have to do something. while this debate is interesting and we have been having it for 12 years, and long before that, so while we are having this debate, fentanyl debts are drawing every year. if it goes like that, your communities spiraling out of control, i don't how to help my son, daughter, kate, brother, they are out on the street and communities are having a fight of paper, and communities are spiraling, i don't know what the answer is, i just know if you have fentanyl deaths doubling like this, people are going to want answers quickly, and one of the first things i want to do, we should criminalize, thing about legalization, i could see it actually making sense.

this could work. but then look what california and new york did on cannabis, they screwed it up and only went 75% of the way there. now the black market is still underway and you cannot use any sort of credit card there so it is all cash and all of those businesses -- >> greg: how do you know that, dana? >> dana: i read it in "the wall street journal." >> jesse: greg, with respect, your argument reminds me of what the communists say. communism has never been tried yet. it was only tried -- >> greg: actually, legalization has been tried. it's called alcohol, and you drink a lot of it. >> jesse: i have as many rounds as i want, i still am alive. >> harold: i wish we had these guys are going for reparations. coming up next, president biden had his sights on your dishwasher in order to save the planet. ♪ ♪

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>> greg: he's the dishwasher squasher. president biden once again invite invite himself in your house with a new rule that would dramatically cut water use per cycle in dishwashers. hailed, something like dishwashers, 30% less power, soe food that stuck to your plate would be squeaky clean and edible. [laughter] >> harold: look, if this is going to make things better and safer and more efficient and still cleans our dishes, i'm for it. my daughter is a big, big proponent of us using less water in our household. >> greg: oh, then maybe she should run for governor. [laughter] because if you are not going to run. dana, it just occurred to me that liberals want to get rid of mechanical dishwashers and returned to the humankind, hence there race for cheap, illegal labor. who needs to buy when you can get someone from columbia?

>> dana: it's true. do you remember when president trump talked about this? it was one of the most bipartisan things he ever said because everyone agrees, there is not enough power in the dishwasher and there is no reason a dishwasher should have to run for two and a half hours, and then if you have to run it twice because your dishes are clean, that's five hours on your electricity bill goes up, as does your electric stove electricity bill. they are going around and around and biting themselves in the butt >> greg: watch your mouth be up jesse come have you ever e washed a single dish? you know the kitchen looks like? >> jesse: i am a big fan of soaking. a messy pot, put some soap in there, leave it for the wife to handle. >> jeanine: that is disgusting. >> jesse: you are supposed to have a little food on the plate when you put it in the dishwasher because both soap from the dishwasher reacts to the food and cleans -- >> jeanine: really? >> jesse: more effectively. >> jeanine: who told you that?

>> jesse: one of the other cohost on a friday when you weren't here. and that is why you are not supposed to get all of the little food particles off by hand before putting it in pw are supposed to put it in dirty. >> greg: judge? >> jesse: less work. >> jeanine: they are going to reduce the performance. it is going to cost you more money. then it is not going to be as clean and you have to wash it anyway. reduce water by 30%. now you have to keep washing -- i don't want to wash it a second time. >> jesse: i don't want to "warsh" it. >> greg: fill up the landfills. >> jeanine: it is going to cost more, move factories out of the country and make them somewhere else. the only people who lose are the wives and the women, and it's not right. >> harold: i clean in my house, but what if they make it stronger? >> jeanine: how with lower energy? they have less energy. >> harold: think about how small they are and much

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♪ ♪ >> jesse: the most popular band of her. grab your party hats, america, because we have some birthdays to celebrate. dana's is today and harold is on thursday. we have two tortoises here at the table. it is the perfect sign for both of you. never shy away from hard work, dependable, extremely patient. you can be stubborn, that surprises me. >> dana: really? i will not fold! >> jesse: what is peter doing for your birthday? >> dana: tiny get together. last year was a significant birthday last year, won't tell anyone what that number is, so this is chill. >> jesse: it is a chill birthday. what about you? big plans for your birthday? >> harold: i only do it with my kids. i have a couple buddies who come and into town the next day or so. >> jeanine: i got to tell you,

you are both dependable, both are sorry -- sorry, greg -- both dependable, perfect for tor tortoise. >> harold: you are nice to everybody at your birthday. >> greg: shock you with this thing. take -- they would not take -- harold ford jr.'s face on it. so many things. >> jeanine: okay. >> jesse: so many things to celebrate. we are going to play a game here i have some unique facts and we will have to guess which one is harold or dana. i don't know the answers come i swear. used to do "beavis and butthead" impressions. i'm going to go with... >> jeanine: what's the answer? >> dana: it's me. >> jeanine: dana? >> dana: yes. my college roommate --

>> greg: she was hot. >> dana: she is still hot. i'm going to see her this weekend at the csu -- >> greg: give her my best and tell her eye still have her picture. >> jesse: works every time. which host has already read ten books this year and gets ideas from "the wall street journal" review section? >> greg: please. >> jesse: come on! it is so easy. >> harold: this might be -- >> jesse: it's harold! >> jeanine: "wall street journal"? >> harold: the review section of "the wall street journal" is my favorite part of the newspaper, i look forward to it every saturday. >> greg: racism. >> jesse: that was a trick question, by the way. which host us to give away their dog because a college breakup? >> greg: that's a tough one. >> jesse: the answer is dana. >> dana: yeah, no, i had this boyfriend who totally dumped me but but before -- before he

dumped me he got me a dog, like a puppy that i named sugar, which was a very nice thing to get, and then i snuck the dog into the dorm room, and i don't know why i thought i could take care of a puppy in a dorm room, you can't. it got sick with the same thing, find the vet, did not have enough money, had to find a home for sugar. >> jeanine: do you find a good home? >> dana: i hope so. never heard -- >> harold: sugar was your first dog? >> dana: i had dogs growing up. >> greg: what happened to the x? >> dana: he dumped me, married somebody -- i never heard from him again. i got the flu. it was awful. >> greg: he is probably watching "the five" and going "boy, did i screw up." >> jesse: seriously, probably homeless and drug addicted in portland, oregon. [laughter] number four, which host used to perform songs with her neighborhood friends at their parents party. definitely harold -- >> dana: that is so obvious. what would you sing? >> harold: we used to sing earth wind fire.

we were very good. we thought we were good, paid money to do it. >> jeanine: who paid you? >> harold: the people who hired us. hosting the dinner parties. my parents basically reimbursed everybody. >> jesse: i did not know you could sing and dance. >> jeanine: don't. >> jesse: i didn't know! >> harold: it does not scream out at you? >> jesse: never in front of me. number five, which host watches countless hours of "law & order" when it is raining outside. i know that is harold ford because dana reads when it ra rains. >> dana: that's true. >> harold: and i know you. >> jeanine: really come "law & order?" >> harold: i watched every franchise they have -- >> jeanine: did you see me on one of them? >> greg: like law and order because the w billing is always >> jesse: last question, which host went a whole year only speaking to their friend in

haiku? day now. >> jeanine: day now. >> jesse: so dana. >> dana: true. >> greg: who was that? >> dana: my friend in high school. i instituted at the white house in 2008 and karl rove got in on it, he is very good at it. it is a good way to communicate, you have to keep it short beard >> greg: that is a good little trick. >> jeanine: haiku. >> greg: haiku. >> harold: we should try it. >> jesse: almost assault with a deadly paddle. "one more thing" is up next. ♪ ♪ if your business kept on employees through the pandemic, getrefunds.com can see if it may qualify for a payroll tax refund of up to $26,000 per employee, even if it received ppp, and all it takes is eight minutes to get started. then we'll work with you to fill out your forms and submit the application; that easy. and if your business doesn't get paid, we don't get paid. getrefunds.com has helped businesses like yours claim over $2 billion but it's only available for a limited time.

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australian woman named lillian set out for a vacation but car got stuck in remote part of the wilderness. trapped and alone with no cell service. family alerted police. finally found her after five days. she said she was stranded without water. the only thing she had to sustain herself for the entire time was a bottle of wine and some candy. she says she doesn't usually drink but when police finally got her to safety she asked for water and guess what else, judge? a cigarette? and she survived. >> judge jeanine: good for her. >> greg: i'm not going to comment on that. i think it's true. it's just i'm dying to say something. do you know what was on tonight? harold ford jr. big jay oakerson first time on. kat timpf, jamie lissow. going to be a great show. listen to this. >> judge jeanine: i love the music. >> greg: so bad. go to little italy, stars of the movie out there having pasta al

dente or is it al fresco. i'm not sure which one of the gerbils she is but, you know, she is enjoying herself. doesn't mind being photographed, tasty, huh? angel hair pasta. >> judge jeanine: okay. harold? >> harold: i want the band back in d.c. the judge wants us to come perform some weekend. >> judge jeanine: i do. i will have a dinner party and can you come. >> harold: taking this outpouring of support shown after on field collapse in january the buffalo bills defensive back and paying it forward literally. sense recovered buffalo bills safety announced he will use the $10 million raised online to fund his own nonprofit the chasing m's foundation. m as in mary. chasing m's foundation. mission to champion youth and community aspirations through sports and education while also teaching cpr and how to do it and that kinds of training. congratulations to him.

what a blessing he is and how prayers come to life. congratulations to that young man. >> jesse: a lot of people don't know this but greg and hamlin have a lot in common they both have died on the field c block. >> judge jeanine: all right. an 11-year-old talk boy from chicago came up he created a hoodie with a fleece lining on the inside with strings attached that can be played with. the textures inside help self-sooth in overstimulating environments instead of needing to carry a fidget around. he wants others to feel good in their clothes and is hoping to make those with autism less embarrassed by self-soothing in public. an 11-year-old boy. isn't that great? >> greg: great story. >> judge jeanine: incredible autistic boy. >> greg: that's not funny. why are you laughing? >> judge jeanine: jesse, go.

>> jesse: i'm not going to say anything just like you with that first story. i want to. >> greg: i don't know what you mean but i'm not. >> jesse: let's do the promo instead. tonight, "jesse watters primetime" we have an actual whistleblower from the department of justice who is going to be blowing a whistle figuratively on my show 7:00 giving me the exclusive. >> judge jeanine: that's it for us tonight. "special report" is up next. hey, gillian. >> gillian: hi, judge. thanks, guys. >> gillian: good evening from washington. i'm gillian turner in for bret baier. breaking tonight we are following several breaking news stories this hour we have a verdict in the civil trial of former president donald trump. new york jurors have found him liable for sexually assaulting then defaming writer e. jean carroll back in the mid 1990s. plus, this chaos at the nation's southern border is mounting tonight as the end of pandemic related asylum rules is now less than two days away. first up, president biden who has long insisted he will not negotiate with republicans on the debt ceiling met with top lawmakers just now a