>> harris: stunning, exclusive live video from our fox news drone at the southern border with mexico. the trump era covid driven title 42 measure is set to expire in a matter of hours. a potential border breaking surge anticipated now. the illegal crossings at the highest levels ever recorded. this is "outnumbered."

i am harris faulkner with emily compagno, kayleigh mcenany, also known as "washington examiner" deputy editor of restoring america, kayleigh mcgee white is here. welcome. and ben ferguson, host of the ben ferguson pod cast. several cities have declared states of emergency. the overwhelmed border communities of brownsville, laredo, brownsville, texas. emergency orders have been ordered in a deep blue sanctuary city of chicago. the state of new york and even denver, colorado. this new video out of el paso shows border agents apprehended several people for illegally entering the country. and now we are being told to at least one of them is already back on american soil. actually, then, that isn't the jarring park today. the jarring part was watching the federal government through a memo acknowledge it.

>> ben: they know what's happening to these kids and i think everyone needs to have a moment where you understand this was done by design. this wasn't an accident. this wasn't a crisis at any point to this administration. they designed this deliberately to happen. what you are seeing today with these drone pictures was designed by the biden administration's. they said we are going to open up the border, we are going to allow for chaos, and what they are not being held accountable for the part that makes me angry is that human trafficking and the sex trafficking of children. they knew there was going to be sex trafficking. i'm not truly understood just how bad it was going to be. you had multiple children now are they found more than 100 different dnas on that child. they mean 100 -- that means 100 people got their hands on that child. people don't want to talk about this but that's what's happening in texas right now. this administration has not --

known about it. mayorkas has said the border is secure. he's a liar. he deserves to be impeached for that. the president is saying we are going to do rapid release. the policy of this administration is we know an onslaught is coming so as fast as you get them, rapidly release them so it doesn't look like a crisis within texas and border states. what that means to the rest the country's get ready. you're about to have a rapid influx of illegal immigrants were going to be shipped in and out. >> harris: let's talk about that. the rapid release doesn't come with the plan on the flip side so-called sanctuary cities, look here in new york, they are telling people, americans who are in shelters, we don't have room for you and the people about to come in, they are going to have to make some tough choices. now it's not mandatory. for the shelters to take you no matter what your citizenship is. that's not quite right. >> emily: it's not. i will not parse out the

instructions and policy. the reality. the ones being shipped out, they say, the administration says are being paroled with conditions. that means they have to show up at a later court date. your point there is no tracking mechanism whatsoever. the reality, despite the instructions that say each paroled illegal immigrant will be screened for their immigration, criminal history, and assessed by agents on a case-by-case basis. they should request use paroled conditions either if holding capacity is 125% or if they have apprehended 7,000 migrants per day for more than 72 hours or of migrants are spending an average of 60 hours or more. that's the instructions and that's what people like karine jean-pierre. the reality is because of this surge which we are now twice historical records, twice the numbers that have blown our header back before. they will start releasing them by the thousands. senior homeland security -- a senior homeland security

officer who spoke on condition of anonymity said this memorandum describes this policy. there's absolutely no way that we are going to release them with any type of condition, any type of care. it has nothing to do with that. the policies pale in comparison to drinking from a firehouse. he said just know everyone is going to be released. >> harris: i'm so astonished at how quickly we got to this point. i'm absolutely not surprised that we have arrived. >> you know it must be really bad if president joe biden admitting there's chaos of the southern border. he won't call it a crisis but he's admitting there is chaos. the problem is the biden administration doesn't want to admit what they could fix this entire crisis within two week span if they reimplemented the trump era immigration policies that he repealed on day one. remain in mexico.

the end of the catch and release parole program. these programs worked. significantly decrease the number of illegal immigrants crossing the southern border. all biden has to do is redeployment those policies and a lot of this would be taken care of but it's one thing he won't do. >> harris: no because it involves the former president. >> kayleigh: exactly. i reached out to my former colleague stephen miller and i said what has been undone. he's a real authority on this issue. he mentioned micro protection particles. remain in mexico. save thirds agreement where we would send migrants to safe third-party countries applying for asylum rather than america taken them all at once. a list of things totally wiped away by president biden. i can't help but stare at these images. this is lawlessness and carelessness. chaos. i had chad wilfong me with me.

you pointed out joe biden cleaned out those streets in el paso before the one time he went to the border. they are astroturf seeing this. using the word effective. where doing are doing is effective, mayorkas said yesterday. >> harris: the category that mayorkas finally was clear about and transparent about, yes it's been better among certain groups of people. they have been able -- they can opt to fly in. if you are from certain countries like nicaragua, venezuela, haiti. the line in front of them is massive. i want to know, are you just letting people flow in until you find the cherry picked one you can put on the government sheet that says you followed the directions. let in and asylum-seekers probably qualify. we do with these people in this country, there anticipation as

they will have food and shelter. >> they are being lied to. what's the solution for mayorkas? a digital ad campaign. are you kidding me? kids are being traffic. >> ben: they see an opportunity. as a father does make me genuinely angry to watch this because they see desperation, the seat mothers are desperate, young girls are desperate, children are desperate. they're going to at some point need survival. what do they do? go find them and put them into child labor. they put them into labor. they abuse them. many of them you may never find mercy again. they will grow up in the shadows the democrats -- they were talking about coming out from the shadows. they are creating dungeons of for people coming in. the democratic party, they did this on purpose. they designed it, their policy, they knew this was the end game,

this was the reward. there trying to change america. >> harris: eagle pass, texas, we saw one of those shadows. when you follow the trail of excrement and the personal garments and everyone is dumping in the river. coming into mexico from the united states across the rio grande. you follow that trail you find people trying to hide until they can get to the interior of the city and they look scared. they look worried. they look brokenhearted. they've been lied to. lose the ones that are okay with you seeing them. imagine who is coming into our country, the ones who don't want us to see them. this is a problem. it's quite dangerous. i asked border patrol president of the union last hour, do we have a country? his answer is the same as it was in september when i was down there with him. "i don't know." coming up liberals turn against cnn for hosting a town hall with former president trump.

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>> emily: liberal journalists and democrats are blasting cnn for giving the voters the opportunities he heard from a presidential candidate. but you know this former president trump so. alexandria ocasio-cortez says cnn should be ashamed of themselves, creator of the 1619 project called it unbelievable. political commentator amanda carpenter tweeted "trump did not deserve this forum." he was not entitled to a major media network rolling out the

red carpet for prime time event." the liberal media didn't hold back either. watch great >> i always thought town halls were meant for us to get to know the candidate and what they stand for. so what is the point of this new town hall that he's doing? >> that's when i am so disgusted by. again, when someone shows you who they are, you believe them. >> this is not journalism. this is entertainment. in journalism, you actually will control the questions on the answers. you have some sort of filter. for misinformation. >> it feels to me like this is a pretty open attempt by cnn to push itself to the right and make itself attractive and show its belly to maga and conservatives hoping they'll tune in. >> no surprises and yet it was a disgraceful performance. it was disgraceful on every level. >> scathing rebukes for hosting an open town hall where the

former president took audience questions and was questioned by cnn's own host, caitlin collins. apparently the problem however is simply giving him a microphone to have a presidential candidate give his views. >> this is amazing. donald trump is leading in every single national poll you'll get. double-digit's. he is the leading front runner for the republican nomination right now. the thought that he wouldn't deserve a voice in american politics, what is wrong with these people? people's pictures, the people watching in those clips, they exist in an echo chamber of d.c., new york city. when's the last time joe scarborough went to mississippi? when is the last time joe scarborough -- maybe i'm wrong. correct me if i am wrong, joe. when's the last time you talk to real american voters across the country. thankfully we live in a country where the people decide who the president is, not the media. how scary it is when social media, the former president was banned, media and corporate america come together to try to push a specific

viewpoint here we start with hunter biden. now we are seeing it with president trump. we sat with stacey abrams when she's had a baby doesn't have a heart beat. they colluded to change the science. it's a scary time when you have media folks talking like that when you have a platform. >> emily: given what kayleigh just said, this is someone who we will likely see on the debate stage. this is echoed throughout the left media's concerns. "the daily beast" columnist says cnn failed journalism. the american public, and its own employees. i don't understand what that failure is if the point of journalism is to report what a presidential candidate is saying to give forum to american voices who were present at that town forum. >> harris: may i add one more tweet. i came across this. jamele hill, sportscaster, really good on espn, kind of outspoken so she's not there anymore. here's what she tweets.

"seen and got exactly what it wanted out of the trump town hall, ratings, bows, and a bad signal to conservative viewers that their views are more welcome. it's heartbreaking and instructive for journalism and democracy but it was a win for the network in every way." i'm not digging through comments but i can tell you that a couple of them echo that. people on the left do feel like that was just too much of a platform for donald trump. that platform is dwarfed compared to fox news or even some others. i can understand why cnn might want to stop there but may be the also wanted to get some other voices. >> ben: i don't think so. to be. it could be. we could think positively about it. >> ben: tgc how angry jake tapper was pure here's what he did! >> harris: caitlin collins looked pretty frustrated and angry. >> ben: it was a bad night for her. your job is not supposed to be debating the person on the town hall. your job is to ask questions.

but this i think comes back to a bigger plan for 2024 by democrats. this is how they think they're going to win. put some of the other like donald trump and then you give all the reasons why you are justified in silence and centering him which is that exactly what they did last time. this is a prerequisite for msnbc saying we're not going to do a debate with donald trump. he doesn't deserve it. for the record, i don't care who you are, if you are former president of any country, it's not ruling out the red carpet if somebody sends a tweet. have a former president of any country on tv, past normal. they are trying to say donald trump isn't normal. therefore silence and censor him. shut him up. shut down debate. shut down presidential debates in general. part of this goes back to a democrats want. they do not want any republican on stage with joe biden because they know it would destroy joe biden. this is the prerequisite to get you there say they don't deserve a say.

>> harris: look at what trump did last night. caitlin collins did her job. she was trying to fact-check. she was doing those things. she got frustrated and angry. it was on display. they went back and forth. can you imagine joe biden during that same thing with somebody? >> emily: goodness no. back to the point about the media, people arguing they should not have a platform. sainted jake tapper, i'm not going to pretend like it was easy for me to see him get this forum tonight. that's what fact-checking is for. it is certain point the role of the media is to host neutrally presidential candidates voice and if you have issue with policies put forth or facts argued that in fact-check them after but to call the concept of a townhome with american public interacting with a former president and a presidential candidate, how could that be a joke? >> kaylee: i don't think democrats are necessarily upset the trump was given a platform on cnn. i think they are upset that during the platform people

cheered for trump. unlike what he had to say. that's the real threat here because the entire point of censorship, the motivation behind it is the idea that people are too stupid to think for themselves. to make their own conclusions about what trump has to say and to weigh in on that and i am from michigan. i am from the midwest and you're right it is a very elitist attitude to talk down, to midwestern voters who voted for trump in 2016 who voted for him again in 2020, who might vote again for him in 2024 and tell them no, actually don't get to hear the former president. you don't get to decide for yourself what you think about him. that's the democrats attitude. >> emily: coming up, republicans hold a shocking is that of other new revelations surrounding that ayden families business dealings. but if you weren't watching fox, you probably didn't hear anything about it. the media silence on this story predictably is next.

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>> fox news alert. live look at the seven border crisis. now with m less than 12 hours until the end of title 42. officials preparing for an explosion of illegal migrants unlike we have ever seen before. stunning new drone video shows a migrant making the life-threatening swim across the river. this migrant just one of many who have taken that or nothing swim in an attempt to illegally enter the united states. there you see him. harris, we often see these journeys. we know border patrol, their lives are at risk, saving individuals. this is treacherous and many lose their lives doing it. >> harris: they were giving people flotation devices on the mexican side and that doesn't mean it's beneficial but

something to float. he must have something underneath him. the current, you can see it. look at the bottom of the screen. dhs secretary mayorkas is going to join the press briefing today and we squeezed him to the picture with karine jean-pierre. that will be interesting. >> kayleigh: sure to get not a lot of answers, like yesterday. the bombshell news conference yesterday, top republicans laid out evidence that the biden family and their business associates used web of complicated and suspicious networks to enrich themselves to the tune of $10 million. it's pretty big deal. anyone would think so. 20 llcs. big story. the legacy media ignored it all. not 1 of 3 network evening newscasts covered the news conference or the allegations in any way. 0 minutes. clearly the press is simply uninterested. emily, it's crazy to me, they all lead with george santos.

a freshman congressman is the network news focus, not a sitting president with this explosive allegation. >> emily: it's preposterous to recover the fbi was to turn over the document, the deadline was noon. during the hour yesterday we talked about if they would comply and supply it during that hour would cover it. they didn't. instead the fbi responded with a seven-page letter. what i want viewers to understand, the showdown occurring because the fbi and doj have not denied the existence, they have not denied that there is a whistle-blower that raise these alarming principles that we have just the tip of the iceberg on but they say it could harm investigations, prejudice prosecutions or judicial proceedings, unfairly violate privacy or greatness impressions in the public. that was their primary argument why they are denying or refusing to comply with the legal and legitimate subpoena. look for that s showdown.

on my true crime podcast i had the former part of the colombo crime company. he said federal racketeering cases, state racketeering cases and i was a member of a criminal enterprise. i know this system and scheme all too well. he went to prison for it. he said that biden family is that criminal enterprise. shell companies are set up to launder money. it's a rico investigation if i've ever seen one and i've seen more than one." to your point, kayleigh, to the left, crickets. >> kayleigh: two foreign countries in the near times headline, house republican report finds no evidence of wrongdoing by president biden. where is the investigative journalism. ben: still trying to figure out what the biden family did to get millions of dollars? if you had to say --

>> kayleigh: the grandchildren. >> ben: the white house answered a question. what did the biden family -- tens of millions. can use plan would just? >> harris: six letters. access. >> ben: its money laundering because there's not an actual business. this is what you do when you launder. this is what happens when you have a criminal enterprise. it's not about -- the chinese do this well. jim jordan talked about this. he was like, they do something really well. they give money to family members. something that was shocking there was also what someone else said the other night here at f fox. chinese individuals understood if you want to get money to families to give it to the aunts, uncles, grandparents and they would find money in bank accounts. people in nursing homes with 20, 30, 40, $50 million.

this is how you funnel it. in essence joe biden would walk off the stairs of air force to or air force one and the family and the money was walking out the back stairs. that's how this enterprise work. >> kayleigh: maybe the corrupt romanian, the company may be just like hunter's artwork. >> harris: the child custody hearing with hunter biden. hhe said he wasn't making money off his artwork so why not see the list of people who bought it. why don't you show proof? i'm sure that judge is going to ask for that proof because he's going to have to decide how much child custody he's going to owe and whether he believes the story that when his father went to ireland and they flew on air force one that he had to sleep on a cot in the hotel room because he didn't have any money. it is sneeze able but it's real. it's not acceptable. >> kayleigh: biden does a

gaggle on the tarmac, not one question from a reporter. >> kaylee: the media silence is ridiculous considering the national security implications of whether the president has been compromised by our biggest adversary. looking to see if they had shared this report, none. msnbc, none. you know they were tweeting about yesterday? george santos. "washington post" had two tweets on santos, "new york times" three msnbc to abc three. these are their priorities. it shouldn't be a surprise considering the media has actively worked to support us this story about joe biden's family for the past several years. it's distressing, it really is and it's a disservice to the public. >> kayleigh: they won't touch it because we have an election in 18 months. coming up, should you have to take a civics test to vote? should the voting age be raised to 25? we'll debated next.

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saying if you want to vote as an 18-year-old, between the ages of 18 to 25 you need to either do your civic duty through civic to the country, six months of service in either military service or a first responder. or else you have to pass the same civics test that an immigrant has to has to fastener to become a naturalized citizen who can vote in this country. at age 25, that falls away. what we are proposing is a constitutional amendment to raise the voting age to 25. >> kayleigh: apparently he'd been mulling this over for a while. i got a really positive reception to suggesting it from a law in the immigrant community who came up to him and apparently it sealed the deal. >> kaylee: would have just scraped by by the age requirements of this had been in place. i understand the concerns about younger americans not being familiar with even basics about u.s. history. we saw a recent scores which were distressing.

i don't support this. i think it's because we expect a lot out of our young adults. we say that they can join the military as young as 18. i guess he's trying to make up for that in one way. i think there's a much easier solution which is to fix the american education system and really bolster the teaching of civics and history in the united states. that's clearly very needed based on some of these scores. this has been a problem for years now. in 2010 the scores revealed eighth graders couldn't even display a basic proficiency on history to the point where they didn't know why abraham lincoln was an important figure. they didn't know what brown v.board of education was. these are bad results. it would go a long way toward solving what vivek is talking about. >> kayleigh: it would take a constitutional amendment to the 26th amendment lowered the voting age from 21 to 18 so it's quite heavy left. >> ben: i bet -- i know a lot of older adults

that are really stupid so i don't like having the idea of having younger people have to pass "what do you know are don't know." i also don't trust the government not to abuse this down the road and decide to put know." more requirements on people to vote or more things to pick and choose. the principal here if you're an american citizen and all i care about is you get to show who you are. are you who you say you are when you go to vote. i want to protect the vote but outside that i don't trust our government not -- to all -- to all of a sudden start adding new things, changing ages, changing requirements, it's a slippery slope i don't want in this country because i promise you politicians will figure out a way to rig the system. >> kayleigh: nikki haley, the inverse of what she was saying, competency test on older people. >> harris: part of the

criticism for her even on the right has been, why 75. why not across the board question like that might be fair. people are thinking that because we are watching biden in slow times. it's difficult to watch. what i'm concerned, the add-ons, the exceptions. we are making a lot of exceptions right now at the border. if you check certain boxes you can come through in those boxes seem to be what we look like and how we love and all those things. if you do that with voting we could go backwards. women have only had the right to vote for 100 years in this country. love somebody decides that women would be the exception if blah, blah, blah. once you start to tinker. >> ben: what if you lose an election by one year and then you say the party would do better if we make it 28. >> kayleigh: vivek's argument, my response, the objective is not to stop people from voting, it's to value voting itself. >> emily: of course. we understand his arguments coming from a good place.

a well-informed place. to me however voting is absolutely sacred. it is sacrosanct in this cou country. your right to vote comes irrespective of your i.q. irrespective of your education. in perspective of anything because as an american citizen, everything that happens around you impacts you. i believe the answer is not conditional voting. i'm an advocate for restoring voting rights to felons. that's important. it's a lost voice. the amount of growing veterans in the population and single mothers in the light, they should absolutely have a say in our criminal justice system. his point is very true one that the educational system here is woefully inadequate. our youth are woefully undereducated and over indoctrinated especially by the left. i also love his idea about the civic engagement and actually department of transportation secretary pete buttigieg argued for the same. i love that. i love the concept of furthering

and requiring engagement surgically in this country but the condition of vote on that absolutely not. >> kayleigh: i can tell you one condition i support: identification card. coming up, the left's push to cancel the classics and we write books have gone so far that liberal actor tom hanks is speaking out. his response coming up. at t-mobile, your business will save over $1000. what are you going to do with it? i could use a new sign. with t-mobile for business, save more than $1000 versus verizon. and with our price lock guarantee, we'll never raise your rate plan. ever.

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close would see you. ♪ ♪ >> emily: and other hollywood heavyweight coming out against the censorship of classic stories. oscar winner tom hanks wading debate over the current woke trend of altering books for modern audiences. in an interview hank says "i'm of the opinion we are all grown-ups. let's have faith in our own sensibilities as opposed to having someone else decide what we may or may not be offended by. let me decide what i am offended by what i'm not offended by. i would be against reading any books from any era that says "abridged due to modern sensitivities." harris, what a common sense, refreshing approach. >> harris: it's necessary. he doesn't want his own work tampered with. i totally get back. who wants to work as hard as tom hanks' work of his career and then have an asterisk by

everything people think don't fit current sensibilities. they are going to be different 50 years from now. that's called evolution. i like looking at we are based on the past and measuring our progress. please don't touch it. our history is our history and we measure that progress and we can talk about it and celebrate it but then you have to accept the fact that we are exceptional. there are some in this country who don't want to celebrate that time with him. we are adults in this. by the way, we are not asking people to completely take things away and -- oh, but sometimes we are. i'm being facetious. statues, the whole. leave it up. put a footnote if you want to. >> ben: have a great debate. >> emily: all of us on this counter talked about the posthumous, which to me is sort of a punch to the gut. rules all. little house on the prairie, dr. seuss, there's no book that's had a formative impact on

many youth that has since after death been deemed unacceptable in some format or fashion and then altered. at the end of the day it's art and therefore it's that person's truth. what if the woke left understood that argument. >> kayleigh: it's everything. splash mountain. sleeping beauty. cancel culture, altering culture has permeated all society. tom hanks says i'm an adult. i can handle it. i want to stay with happening with editing books is entirely different than what's happening in schools k through three classrooms removing inappropriate books from the eyes of children. there is a distinction. sometimes they get conflated. new pulley came out that was buried by "the washington post" conducted in march. 77% agree that k through three kids should not be learning about gender. so they agree with the governor in florida after all. >> emily: they do. comes on the heels of stephen pispielberg saying i regret

editing et. how many more celebrities, influential figures will come out before the left woke sees that what they are arguing is frankly acceptable. his other than the older they get. these guys are getting older. they are saying maybe we don't like this idea. they could be forgotten, their work could be erased. i love tom hanks saying this. folks like bill maher who were pretty liberal, may be need to dial it down. not like of their life's work disappear but the opportunities that they have fuller life work made his fear for their kids and their grandkids in the next generation. if you're having to be an artist of any genre and you've got to worry about wokeism, your entire career and maybe i don't take that risk or do that movie or make that thing or that statement because it might cost me my entire future, that's not a fun place for an artist to be

and i'm glad they are saying it. they should. welcome to the club. steve have the whole point he's making is i don't want to be told how to think or feel or decide by the woke left mob though that's what exactly the woke left mob argues. >> kaylee: the heart of cancel culture, the nanny state tendency to micromanage people's feelings and thoughts about certain subjects. i think there is a generational divide were older americans see the ramifications. my generation does not. on college campuses, you see protests against speakers who hold views different than their own, you see these more radical left as being militantly trained on college campuses. they are different and they are going to be a threat to the future of the country. >> ha>> emily: all right, guys. more "outnumbered" in just a moment.

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geniuses now? >> this makes me want to rethink capitalism, and the first unionized apple store, it's not a coincidence. but you are right, average cost of a mac laptop is about $1,000. if you are tipping 20%, which is what someone suggested, that's $200 on top of your $1,000 laptop. >> plus tax. >> you are making apple products even more unaffordable and inaccessible. >> so true. so who do they see the customer out there so willing to part with the cash? >> typical silicon valley resident that makes 10 million a year. tipping is elective, so they can try to have everyone tip, but i will decline to tip on a product charge that i'm already being unfairly and disproportionately upcharged by all of the rules and regulations coming out of this administration. i liken this, i was trying to think what other big costs to you tip on, hair extensions, the actual hair extensions can cost like $1,000 or something, i tip

on the labor, because the whole point is the product is not a service, the labor is. so you choose to tip on the service of which someone talented skilled and ex pending their labor on your behalf but the product, no, i'm getting taxed for. >> ben, what do you think about this? >> i think it sucks. i'm sick and tired of corporations trying t figure out how to get us to pay for their employees when they should pay them more, pay them more. but don't put it on me and make it be awkward when i'm spending $1,000 with an awkward moment now some dude is like you are a cheap, know, no, i'm not, i'm spending a grand in your store and if you are mad you are not making enough money, talk to the multi-billion dollar corporation. i'm giving them more than enough money to pay you more. >> ben led me into my point here. i'm worried if you don't tip, they will get a bad computer for you. >> i lived in england a year, i

loved it, they don't tip. i hate the pressure, should i tip or not tip. >> all figured out. >> i like the freedom. i like people to know i had to think about it. who knows what could happen. see you tonight at 8:00 p.m. >> four hours from title 42 expiring. >> a few hours from kayleigh. i'll see you on "america reports," we'll be watching. >> sandra: thank you, ladies. awaiting an update on the biden administration response to the end of title 42 as "outnumbered" mentioned, hours from now, time is ticking down to the midnight deadline. hello, well come everyone, sandra smith on this thursday afternoon in new york. hi, john. >> john: big news day, sandra, no doubt about it. john roberts in washington and this is "america reports". less than 11 hours from now, tens o