and i have some pictures of my mom. my mom here on the left. your mom on the right. she is with you at a wedding, i believe. that's my mom with her amazing cake by eat cake. >> bill: happy mom's day. there is my mom. >> dana: you are looking good. harris faulkner is a mother as well. another beautiful woman. here she is. >> harris: thank you so much. dana and bill. have a great weekend. we begin our hour with this fox news alert. the family of jordan neely is set to hold a news conference any moment now. he died last month after witnesses say he was acting erratically in a subway. a u.s. marine veteran said he got ahold of him. neely died in a choke hold on the subway. this morning that military veteran daniel penny turned himself in. liberal manhattan d.a. alvin

brag decided to charge him with manslaughter. penny's attorney said his client risked his own life to protect others when neely was are hasing passengers. jordan neely has quite a long rap sheet criminal pass and mental health struggles. controversy around his killing sparked ten days of protests in the new york city some of it turning violent. when the neely family speaks, we'll bring it to you live. border agents, cities, towns, the entire nation ready for a siege of a surge. a tidal wave of illegal immigrants. title 42 is done. the administration facing overwhelming criticism. a federal judge has dealt a serious blow to what looked like a plan from the biden administration. the fox flight team over brownsville, texas right now. this is live showing what officials are up against. a steady stream. tens of thousands of people massed along the border and now

they are beginning to cross in in numbers we've never seen. i'm harris faulkner and you are in "the faulkner focus." title 42, you know was the trump-era policy that allowed the quick expulsion of many illegals without an asylum hearing. a reason to be here. they will now be allowed to stay in america while they await a hearing. and we know some of those appointments don't happen until 2026. the current appointments they are getting are years away from now. a federal judge last night blocked the biden administration's plan for mass street releases of illegals. that's a punch in the gut for biden. because now that can't happen. it would have let people holding in centers that were overcapacity for those people to go free with no set court date. no way to track them, nothing. they would just flow into the country. just an agreement to turn themselves in to an immigration office within 60 days to be

screened for asylum. daily records smashed all this week. more than 10,000 illegal crossings each day. far more, including those who got away. texas senator ted cruz an some colleagues during the border last night. choice words for president biden appeared his failure to prevent this predictable crisis. >> we are witnessing a travesty. i have to say i'm angry because this is deliberate. we're witnessing modern-day slavery. and maddening will what the biden administration has decided they want more. this is an invasion and they want the numbers to go up. >> harris: the "new york post" with a sad cover. surrender. dhs secretary mayokas with a familiar warning that is falling on deaf ears. >> i want to be very clear. our borders are not open.

people who cross our border unlawfully and without a legal basis to remain will be promptly processed and removed. if anyone arrives at our southern border after midnight tonight, they will be presumed ineligible for asylum. >> harris: clearly he is talking to the people coming here. are they listening to them? they can't even make the app work. who knows if they can hear him? total fox team coverage. nate foye is in new york city where official eaves are bracing for the arrival of more than 1,000 people a day. matt finn in el paso, texas. let's go to bill melugin in brownsville, texas. bill. >> good morning to you. cbp sources tell me yesterday was the first day in several days that border patrol dipped under 10,000 migrant apprehensions. still historically high numbers. we were out here at midnight last night when title 42 dropped and we did not see a huge rush of migrants materialize. here is what we did see.

we were out with four republican senators getting a tour of the big hot spot here in brownsville with the border patrol union. they took us down to the river ears edge where thousands of people are crossing in recent days. down where the national guard has been deploying razor wires. we were there at midnight and did not see any illegal crossings. migrant camps on the other side of the river with campfires and music playing. here is what senator cruz said. >> there are 22,000 illegal immigrants right on the other side in matamoros. they have fires going, music going. partying. in a couple of hours title 42 is ending and all 22,000 will invade this country. they will take them to every city in america. >> the huge rush of migrants that was predicted did not end up materializing last night. but that doesn't mean it won't to at some point. you can see the video we shot.

this is what we saw last night. sent a camera to matamoros. what migrants saw on the u.s. was resistance from the national guard. texas soldiers yelling at them not to cross. some people got in the water and they gave it a try but it turned into a stand-off last night as some people considered it but the texas national guard blocked it on the u.s. side. and take a look at this last piece of video and why there are still concerns there could be a huge rush at some point today, tonight or coming days. a migrant shelter in a border city across from mcallen, texas, thousands of migrants in the shelter like thousands of migrants and camps and shelters along northern mexico right now. the migrants appear to be in a holding pattern. title 42 is gone and they wait to see what they are going to do. will they cross or going to stay in mexico? we're waiting to find that out as well. back out here live cbp sources

tell me as of this morning, even though there was no big rush last night, cbp has 25,000 migrants in federal custody. it is still well over capacity and i'm told there are multiple border patrol sectors still over capacity this morning and mass releases have been taking place. we'll send it back to you. >> harris: they haven't finished counting people and curious how the 1500 men and women from the military are able to help this process, too. great reporting. thank you. to el paso, texas now. one of many border communities issuing emergency declarations. the flood of illegal immigrants overwhelming the city long before the trump-era title 42 was lifted last night. headlines highlighting the dire situation. here is one. the madness of biden's beyond sur real border mess will grow. the growing crisis proves biden's only priority is to

admit them all. admit them all. >> i would grade him an f. >> i give him an f on everything. >> if you let them in here for a better opportunity. make sure it is being done right. >> he has no grasp of the idea of how serious it is. >> has he done anything since he has been elected? no. i don't believe that he is going to help. >> harris: some people from el paso giving a report card to the president of the united states. matt finn is live for us from el paso. matt, i was reading. the mayor has been giving news conference after news conference where you are. they are inundated at this point. >> yeah, harris, spotlight has been shined on el paso over the past couple years mainly because of so many migrants downtown overwhelming the shelters. we witness a scene that we have witnessed over and over again. hundreds or thousands of tiles along the southern border. more migrants arriving right now at this moment.

systematically placed in a single file and put on large white buses and taken away to be processed. notably this morning all the migrants appear to be single adult men. some said they are from guatemala guatemala. cbp is seeing 2,000 migrants per day crossing into the united states here in el paso. so far from where we're standing, at least this morning we aren't seeing a major rush or uptick. which might make sense as perhaps migrants try to make it into the u.s. before title 42 expired last night. the el paso sector has been very active with more than 265,000 migrant encounters so far this fiscal year. you may recall a lot of the viral video coming from el paso where migrants were camped downtown and overwhelming the sacred heart shelter which has risen to become a critical layer of the immigration crisis in el paso. the big question is what the entire border will look like over the next couple days since

title 42 expired. we'll keep you updated. >> harris: 2,000 crossing in el paso, 9,000 in brownsville. more than 11,000 for the day just yesterday alone. great reporting as always, matt finn. thank you very much. as promised we'll go to the news conference now. the family of jordan neely, the former marine who says that he reacted to jordan neely in the subway. he died and his attorney and family at the lectern. let's listen to his attorney. >> this is who jordan was and then tragedy struck. you can look at this photo and see any of us in this picture. there is people in middle school and elementary school who remember jordan this way. his mother was taken from him and her body was dumped in a suitcase on the highway.

and it changed jordan's mentality forever. he tried to deal with it as best as possible. to deal with it, he made other people smile. he sang, he danced, he entertained. even though he couldn't smile, he made other people smile. that's who jordan was. that's what everyone needs to know before we talk about charges, before we talk about the person who took his life, we need to know who he was and who he had with him. that's who jordan neely was. so we want to thank everybody that jordan represented, he was one of us. but there are a lot of people dealing with mental illness and they could be in the same situation. there are a lot of families who cared for those people but they can't find them right now. they may be walking the subways. they may be houseless on the streets. and those families are wondering

what will happen to my loved one because i can't reach them. that's why it's important to have services available, that's why it's important for the mayor to be talking about what we can do to address mental health in our communities. we want to think the people who represent the homeless and houseless communities, we want to thank them. we could all be 1 or 2 paychecks from that happening to us or one tragedy away from that happening to us. how are we to look at someone and say they were houseless and they must be a bad person. they must have been about to attack us. they must have been about to hurt us so we had the right to take his life. our life matters more. that's not the situation we want to live in. it's not the community we want to have. we don't want it where you can kill someone because you thought there was a possibility they could do something to you.

there was no attack. mr. neely did not attack anyone. he did not touch anyone or hit anyone. he was choked to death and that can't stand. that can't be what we represent. his father andre lost a son. his aunt mildred lost someone she cared for very much. she tells the stories about how he would come to her house on the good days and ask her to take a shower and for food. and she would provide that for him. but when he had bad days he didn't want to be around people he know loved them because he didn't want to disappoint them because he was at a low point. he didn't want to be judged and lose maybe the love that he had even though they would have never lost that love. this is really what we're dealing with. we have to care about people.

we're all human beings that are trying the best we can in this life. and we need each other. no one on that train asked jordan what's wrong? how can i help you? he was choked to death instead. so for everybody saying i've been on the train and afraid before and i can't tell you what i would have done in that situation, i'm going to tell you, ask how you can help. please. don't attack, don't choke, don't kill, don't take someone's life, don't take someone's loved one from them because they are in a bad place. no one on that train said you started out by saying i'm hungry, i need food. i'm done with it. i don't know where to get food. i don't care if i die or go to jail. >> harris: you are watching the case that the district attorney, i would imagine, would try to

put on from the attorney of the jordan neely family. which i guess in some ways makes a lot of sense because they are working together on this. but at the same time, the story that is not being told is part of the fact checking that my first guest is going to do with us here. we'll dip back in with information on this but we'll watch this and monitor it from fox news. wanted to show you some of the attorney daunte mills for the deceased jordan neely. today that former u.s. marine has turned himself in to face a liberal d.a.'s charges against him. raymond arroyo, fox news contributor. i know you aren't practicing law now. you have it in your background and bloodstream. tell me what was true and what you were fact checking there. >> first of all you have an attorney here trying to turn this situation around on the victim, making the victim the perpetrator here. why is it the responsibility of

harris faulkner or anyone else walking on the streets of new york to the end to the mental health of everyone they encounter. if you see people acting out on a subway reach on and help them. when you are being threatened. and we've been in the position. when you are threatened on the street, your self-defense mechanism is back off, give me a moment or intervene when you see otheresque attacked. this is absurd tee what we're hearing today. >> harris: it is complicated by the fact that in terms of where we would try to position ourselves away. we wouldn't try to rescue everybody with a cape. i'm not a u.s. marine. it is a crowded subway. erratic individual. you don't know. he said he is desperate, hungry. there are services around in eric adams' city of new york city. there is supposedly help around in alvin bragg's district d.a.

domain of manhattan. in fact, let me get to this. so bragg promised to cut prosecutions and downgrade charges. i ask our team to keep going there. >> half of every felony case he has demoted to a misdemeanor in his jurisdiction. half of them. so he has great kindness and charity, generosity for perpetrators. he doesn't show that same kindness and generosity to victims. we saw it in the bodega case. he is attacked and pulls out a knife. alvin bragg sent him to ryker's island until he was cleared. there is a pattern. in this case alvin bragg is trying to turn this subway sad tragedy into murder on the orient express when it is self-defense on the f train. >> harris: he is setting citizens against each other. people have a heart for someone

who is hungry and hurting. they have a heart for that. what they don't have the is to sit in a crowded subway car and unpredictability. they didn't know he had the criminal past he had. people have enough instincts to know we're in trouble as potential victims here. we can't get out of the subway car. we can't get out. somebody steps up. we don't know what we don't know of that situation because we weren't there. but legally what you are saying, we popped up some numbers and give it to the benefit of our audience to make sense of what they saw. i was going to go on and say alvin bragg promised to -- can we put that back up, please? promised to downgrade charges and he delivered. felony stats from before he took over in 2022, felony convictions down 17%. felonies declined to prosecute up by nearly 300 cases. felonies downgraded to misdemeanors up 13%.

exactly what you are talking about. if you change the rules and call stuff not a crime suddenly crime goes down but the people suffer. >> there is no penalty for threatening people in public places, even in subways. i have been on subways with my son recently. there are crazy people wandering around. some have mental distress and need help. some are drug addicts. others are just looking to threaten and bully people out of whatever they have. i'm sorry, i've seen it with my own eyes. in this case the people who helped daniel penny restrain mr. neely here, they testified that he was threatening people on the train and he was fighting and resisting the entire time. we'll get to the bottom of this but this looks like self-defense. >> dana: there are always cell phones around. look at that one. we get a perspective from almost every angle. police will have to do their jobs via the prosecutor if he lets police do their jobs and we'll see some of those

different angles. here is daniel penny's attorney today after his client turned himself in at the request of d.a. bragg. >> daniel penny surrendered at the fifth precinct after. he did so voluntarily and with the dignity that is characteristic of his history of service to this grateful nation. he is dealing with the situation, like i said, with the sort of integrity and honor that is characteristic of who he is & honorable service in the united states marine corps and he has his head held up. >> this is a city trying to scapegoat a person who had military training and intervened when he saw other citizens under attack. they are trying to scapegoat their own responsibility. new york city is at fault here

for allowing drug use, lawlessness and a disregard for the mental health of their citizens to run wild and it is catching up with them. we'll see more of these situations sadly. unless prosecutions catch up and public safety and public welfare is foremost in the minds of not only the d.a. but the mayor of this city, i weep for what will happen in new york, a once great metropolis. >> harris: glad you were here. thank you. moving on to politics now. president biden may be facing yet another challenger in the democratic primary field. oh oh. perhaps moderate senator joe manchin could jump in. axios reporting manchin met with several iowa democratic power brokers this week and repeatedly dodgeed questions on 2024 but not ruling it out. >> can a president manchin better influence that conversation? >> you know, everybody is

worried about who is running for what and who will be this. my main concern can we start a dialogue. >> are you consider running for president? >> a movement going on that people want to bring the extremes back to the sensible and reasonable and responsible middle. i will make my political decision in december. i won't take anything off the table. >> harris: that might punch biden in the gut, right? by the way, robert f. kennedy junior and marianne williamson already have nearly a third of would be democrat voters. they already have their backing right now. poll after poll showing a majority of democrat voters don't want it to be biden. anybody but biden. they also think biden lacks the mental and physical fitness to serve. op-ed warns it could be trouble for biden arguing in a race against any non-trump republican he suffers terribly from the age difference. that alone might defeat him in a race against trump he suffers

although less so from the age problem. but he is on the losing end of what is likely to be the most -- the race's most important matter, the economy. marc thiessen, fox news contributor, "washington post" columnist and former speech writer. sum it up for us. >> it is very likely joe manchin will run for president. not as a democrat, more likely as a no labels candidate. the reason is as a third party condition because he has no path forward to keep his senate seat. if he hadn't voted for the inflation reduction act he would be okay in west virginia. but he is now in the worst of both worlds because democrats hate him for blocking the biden agenda and republicans who like him feel betrayed by the inflation reduction act and jim justice is in the race and he wouldn't stand a chance against him. so the best thing to do is run for president.

and the best way to run for president for him and the best chance he has to be to run as a third party candidate to give safe harbor to people in the republican and democrat party uncomfortable with the two nominees. >> harris: tell me about biden for a second. i mentioned rfk junior and marianne williamson. democrats told me from former lawmakers to strategists, neither one of them is a serious candidate. they are the stay at home candidate combined. if a third of the vote is gone because people don't like the person who is running, they might not vote for them but might sit home which helps the republican side. >> you are absolutely right, harris. rfk junior has a famous name but a nobody. never held elective office or any major position of authority. and he is already getting 20% of the vote. a third of the democrats are looking for somebody else. imagine if a real candidate got in.

rfk junior is far left and mary anne williamson is to the left. people would wish that bernie sanders was the nominee. they aren't likely to go for joe manchin as the alternative. the opposite of bernie sanders. more likely he would run and challenge both trump and biden as a no-label candidate. think about this. if you are a republican who doesn't like donald trump as your nominee, 27% of the republican party said they aren't considering trump. joe biden gives you no safe harbor. the party has gone so far left. it isn't the party of big clinton. there is no safe place to go. if you are a republican who doesn't like -- if you are a democrat who doesn't like biden you won't vote for trump. there is an opening there. if we get the rematch that most americans say they don't want, for somebody to come in and particularly let's say he ran as a no-label candidate and picked a republican vice president. all of a signed you have a viable third party candidate. >> harris: that's really

interesting. republican presidential candidate ramaswamy announced an ambitious constitutional amendment he would like to see raising the u.s. voting age from 18 to 25. under his plan 18-year-olds could vote if they either serve for six months in the military or as a first responder. they could also pass the u.s. citizenship test and that would be one of the qualifications, too. ramaswamy made the case for it last night. watch. >> we can't just be a country you inherit. we have to become a country that we all have a stake in creating, in building together. we don't live in a direct democracy. we live in a constitutional republic and that means something. >> harris: democrats quick to push back on that proposal. the party has broad support among young voters. some comparing it to jim crow laws. first your response to that. >> i'm so sick of the jim crow

analogies. give me a break. let's stop. no more analogies like that for anything. his critique is right but his solution is a non-starter. if you are a military brat or old enough to go and risk your life to defend our freedoms you are old enough to exercise the freedoms in the ballot box, full stop unless we raise the military age to 25. then we won't raise the voting age to 25. there is a "wall street journal" poll the other day that showed that the importance of patriotism has declined dramatically since 1998. today only 34% and young people today 23%. a crisis for our country. the answer is not to raise the voting acknowledge. it is to stop the woke indoctrination in our schools and teaching kids to be patriots and good, upstanding citizens.

>> harris: getting them ready for life and understanding history so we have a better future. always good to see you, marc, thank you. >> take care. >> harris: we are living through day one with no title 42. it had meant to keep people south of the border or expel them during the trump-era covid-driven. it held back 3 million people, pushed them back across the border and now it's gone. the biden administration has no plan for all the illegal immigrants now going to stay here. republicans, however, passed a bill to stem the tide. one the president already said he would veto on-site. the great unveiling of the biden family corruption shocking even democrats and independents. >> joe biden lied about his receiving money from china. obviously this money was coming

as a result of the big guy of joe biden. >> harris: florida republican congressman mike waltz in "focus" next.

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maintaining our borders. >> the big lie of 2023 is that the border is secure. secretary mayokas knows it. >> harris: tempers running hot all the way to the top. former official telling the "washington post" when biden would have explosions, he did have a bunch of them, he would say -- this is a quote, damn it, you haven't told me anything different than what you did last week. ten minutes later he would say i'm sorry, i know everybody is trying. florida congressman mike waltz sits on several committees and also a former green beret. great to have you in "focus", congressman. first of all, i don't have any doubt the president is vacillating on this. there is no clear-cut way to fix it for him apparently. >> well, yeah. my question is where is the border czar? where is the vice president

harris? we are passing legislation, title 42 is ending, the border is completely out of control, and nothing, silence, from the border czar. we know the solutions. we know that barriers work. we know that we have technology to monitor our border. we know that the remain in mexico has worked and would work again as a deterrent. where are the even broader, bigger out of the box ideas? harris and biden talk about getting at the root caution. how about take a portion of the $4 billion they want to pour into central america, let's create incentives to pull manufacturing out of china to central america and now securing our supply chains in the western hemisphere and creating jobs. a lot of workers and think tanks tell you 20 to 40% of every

dollar that goes to aid money in central america is taken by corrupt government officials and strengthen the cartels before it helps anybody. let's talk about supply chains and incentives and incentivizing direct investment and secondly, we have to go after the cartels. we dismantled cartels in columbia with military assets. not boots on the ground but intel, drones, surveillance and other things. we can do the same thing in mexico right on our border. we have to put the cartels on their back foot. i'm thrilled that speaker mccarthy has just announced a cartel task force to do just that. >> harris: look, you have a bevy of ideas and when democrats come to the table, they don't seem to have any ideas, at least not even a federal judge would let them flow with their idea of mass release. i mean, that would be an

epidemic of humanitarian crisis on the streets of america. federal judge yesterday said no to that. that idea of spending some of that $4 billion going to central america is brilliant. because you know part of what they are spending it on, mayokas told us in a news conference a couple of days ago. digital advertising in central and south america. and then one of my guests said well, they are coming many of them from villages where they don't have wifi. they aren't going to be able to be in places where they would set up to get the app to work, the asylum wouldn't work, no wifi and your digital. how will they see them? they don't put them in villages. what did you just say? >> they don't even have water. these are some of the most destitute, difficult and crime-ridden because the cartels are -- have completely taken over whole swaths of mexico and central america. at the end of the day these people need jobs. think how desperate they are and how desperate you would have to

be to hand your child to a smuggler just to get out of the situation. >> harris: or over a wall or into the rio grande to drown. all the things we've seen. >> the only way that you are going to get at the root causes are going to get at manufacturing, jobs, direct investment and creating an environment where those things can thrive. instead you do what the left does. print more money and throw it at the problem and only makes the problem worse. >> harris: let's see if this house bill that just passed can get through the senate and the president's desk. it gets hard to veto it if stuff has more support. great job, too, republicans for getting the job done to put something that makes the other side push back. you celebrate when anybody does that. that means you care. >> we're ready to talk solutions any day. thank you. >> harris: it is not just republicans and conservatives

stunned and upset over all the new revelations on the biden family financial schemes. independent and democrat voters aren't too thrilled, either. >> it's completely unethical. you have foreign nationals funneling money into an llc, then being disbursed to the biden family. i mean, it's basically unethical. >> i don't think you rise to that level of power without having skeletons in your closet on either side. why is america okay? why is that an okay that this person is corrupt and nothing will change? >> harris: we know we had the chairman of oversight who really drove all this this week with his 90-minute news conference and leadership among gop in the house telling us what they're uncovering with new bank subpoenas and the like. my big question now is how to tie it all together? show the american people.

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>> harris: students at a suburban kansas city high school are calling for a teacher to be fired. she has been on the job a long time. they are angry over her comments criticizing her school's diversity curriculum. we'll put diversity in quotes. the teacher wrote an op-ed saying educators are manipulated

and intimidated by a divisive woke ideology. christina coleman is on the story live with details. great to see you, christina. >> some kansas students are demanding long-time english teacher lose her job over criticism of the district diversity training and she says they are not academically focused. she said we're being manipulated and intimidated by a device rev woke ideology creating a culture of contempt and disrespect going on to say there is repeated white shaming and preoccupation with white people as the oppressor including staff field trips with a focus on systemic -- it is so condescending at meetings that many minorities and other staff members have stopped attending. she shared her sentiment on fox business. >> the divisiveness of the dei

message is prompting just a culture of contempt in the building that is intolerable for many of us who work there and have worked there for a long time. >> some protestors are now calling sullivan racist and claim that she refuses to refer to transgender students by their preferred pronouns. a number of students walked out of class wednesday in protest over this teacher's comments. >> everybody is entitled to their own opinion but if it is so controversial like that it could be hurtful or uncomfortable especially if you are a teacher. >> they were met with counter protestors in support of sullivan. a spokesperson said that her online article doesn't represent the belief or experience of the vast majority of the high school staff. they also say the article misrepresents the work they are doing around diversity, equity and inclusion. sullivan maintains she has a right to her own opinion and she

has not lost her job. >> harris: she does have a right to her own opinion. kristin, thank you very much. raymond arroyo with an encore performance today. we couldn't do these cultural topics without you. you have dug in with multiple colored cards and you are ready. >> diversity, equity and inclusion, the mandates of that are oppressive in an educational environment. that's what this teacher is talking about. interesting, the students protesting her right to free speech, her objection to these codes. they say she is being hurtful and making the me uncomfortable therefore the teacher should be fired. part of this democratic experience is listening and hearing everyone out including those who disagree with made up codes of diversity, inclusion and equity. i'm sorry, people need compassion, generosity,

kindness, civic duty. those are the things we should be stressing in the classroom and out or we'll get more sad situations. i think she will keep her job. if they are smart, she will. you want an independent thinking teacher. >> harris: you get the parents involved and know what everybody thinks about us, especially the d.o.j. we've seen it before. president biden's department of homeland security going after regular citizens. they considered training videos targeting what they called radicalization suspects. one of them a suburban pro-life mom. one scenario involved her behavior in a prayer group discussion. the foundation for freedom calls these so-called suspects are not violent terrorists or extremists, typical everyday americans with everyday opinions. collusion there, parent and faith. >> that's a toxic brew according to the government. what you really have here is the

federal government once again labeling a pro-life mother here as the beginning of an isis cell. that's what they are talking about. when you read the description, the foul, the red flag they found is after her mother's death she became a devout believer. it is her faith that makes her the target of the federal government and they are targeting her as a domestic terrorist. there is an allegiance and belief apart from the state. that makes her dangerous. the f.b.i. targeting conservative catholic churches where they perform a latin mass. they are independent thinkers devoted to their family and faith. that makes them a threat. this is like china. this is what china does. their greatest fear in china is free-thinking people with a faith and allegiance apart from the state. that's what we deal with here. turning americans into spies which is what this is really

about. tuning us to look among our co-workers and see how many radicals are we en courtering today? >> harris: they would be looking at me. i would be targeted because i say be bold with your faith. >> we'll be in the gulag together. >> harris: england's first babies with three parents each were born. the babies have dna from three people. experts say it could help prevent genetic disorders but it is an ethical slippery slope to designer babies and basically playing god. >> i want you to meet frankenstein, junior. this is really a problem. i tell you why. the u.k. have decided to bless and legalize this technology, which is basically taking the egg, pulling the nucleus out of it and getting another embryo egg and inserting that.

it takes three donors to make this happen. it is to screen out germs and diseases. okay. the problem is you have to kill an embryo to make it happen. you have to take another life, a fertilized embryo and kill it to make this process happen. there is ethical and more all problems here. we're on the path to designer babies. >> harris: we both did reading for this to be up on it. a lot of the scientific was at the bottom of the article. they are basically marketing the idea, if you will, of more participation for a perfect population. >> i don't like this idea. it is our im perfections and perceived problems and special needs that the world sees that often create the greatest human possibilities. people i know, a woman born with spinal defects. that made her turn to god and

created the largest religious network in the world. again sometimes the im perfections of the world are the ways god moves you in a new direction. how dare any of us try to screen those out or flatten them. i worry about this. it won't end well as you get more and more partners involved in one child's birth. >> harris: that was so beautifully said and very, very important for us to hear. we aren't meant to be perfect in any way. you know what? you could fix all the genetics and the physicality you want. the lord can put a divine assignment on you and the only thing that will matter is what you can do for another. >> i agree. >> harris: those who offer you nothing more than your company. you can share your love. >> a child with down syndrome or extra chromosome. you see the love it draws out of the family and the love they give. they are gifts of god. how dare we try to screen that out or block them. it is a stupid idea.

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