question. how was your mother's day. of all of the things could you ask watters, why -- i see what you did there. >> haze jesse sorry about your sixers, you've got to finish, as they say, there's always next year. >> you do got to finish. i would agree with that. thanks for bringing that up, though. now i'm not doing the signoff. will cain's up next. just going to go like this. ♪ >> hello and welcome to fox news tonight. i'm will cain. the advice i've gotten as i sit down in this seat tonight is to smile and be myself. ly be myself, i make you that promise. i can't be anything but myself and as part of that i commit to telling you the truth. but i'm going to find it hard tonight to smile. because this is a night where it's confirmed that the fbi worked to rig the outcome of an american presidential election. look, we already knew that

crossfire hurricane, the investigation into russia conclusion with trump was fairy dust, it was fake, it was nothing. as matthew month con hey said in wolf of wall street it was a few gazey, it was nothing. but what we learned today with the long anticipated relief of the durham report is the fbi worked as a disinformation shop for hillary clinton, and the democratic national committee. special counsel john durham's report shows us the same people that lecture us today about threats to democracy nearly destroyed it by using the intelligence agencies by targeting the then nominee for president and then later sitting president donald trump. story begins not by rigging the election with donald trump though it starts with rigging an election in support of hillary clinton. just weeks before the fbi launched the crossfire hurricane investigation, wicky lease released tens of thousands of e-mails proving the democratic

national committee rigged its 2016 primary in favor of hillary clinton. the victims here, democratic voters and bernie sanders. the dnc and hillary clinton herself knew that that primary was rigged. they knew those e-mails were real. so together they immediately worked to discredit the leaks, they immediately worked to discredit the idea that they rigged that democratic primary. and their plan to do so, dismiss it all as the contents of russian propaganda and lay it there at the feet of donald trump. hillary clinton, in my estimation, in the first smoking gun of the night, personally approved a proposal from one of her foreign policy advisors to, quote, vilify donald trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by russian security services. there you have the plan. there you have the motive. now then you go on, according to durham's report to see u.s. intelligence agencies knew, in fact, what hillary was trying to do. almost immediately senior

members of our intelligence committee began acting on those allegations treating them as fact. here's familiar names, how about cia director john brennan who briefed then president barack obama, his then vice-president, joe biden and fbi director james comey and the attorney general briefed them all on hillary's conspiracy theory to tie trump to the dnc act. she acteded by bringing her allegations to highest levels of the u.s. government and he wasn't the only one. the same summer the real plan begins to unfold. the clinton campaign and the dnc, through a firm called fusion gps, paid a former british spy named christopher steele to compile intelligence to tie trump to russia. but the intelligence that foougs gps put together was a series of scandalous, salacious nothing burgers. what became known as the steele dossier gave you one of the most absurd claims we heard over the

last five years, that donald trump once urinate order russian hookers and boy did the media eat up that story. >> the day began with clips of james comey former fbi director all over television telling abc news that he cannot rule out that the infamous pee tape mentioned in the steele dossier was real. >> honestly never thought these words would come out of my mouth but i don't know whether the current president of the united states with prostitutes puig each other in moscow in 2013, it's possible but i don't know. >> the pee tape has credibility. >> everybody likes saying pee tape. the durham report shows us today that allegation is debunked. not only debunked but that a clinton ally named charles dolan was likely behind the pee tape. dolan previously worked on both of bill clinton's presidential campaigns and was advisor to hillary in 28, a dnc operative was in moscow at the same time

steele's main source a man named igor danchenko, the source inside the steele dossier for intel based upon youtube videos that he had watched. i guess while he was watching mr. bees or dude perfect he stumbled upon russian connection toss donald trump. and then third is the absurd alpha bank lie. three months into trump's presidency the fbi began investing odd computer links between a russian bank and the trump organization. the theory was that a back channel had been discovered between the russian government and trump. now, the alpha bank lie was created by, again, hillary clinton's law firm. they put together data under the directive of "create a narrative linking donald trump to russia". they began to spread this narrative everywhere. the media, and to the fbi. now, let's be clear. what became clear today is that all of this was false.

and yet the fbi ate it up with a spoon. they did not investigate. they did not look into it. they did not look for corroboration, they abandon all of their normal practices and ate up each false allegation with a spoon. we could easily explain this away as incompetence. you would be forgiven if you were to think that the highest levels of the american government are incompetent but we know it wasn't simply incompetence. we know the fbi wanted to believe these false hoods. we know that because we have text exchanges between, for example, fbi agent counter intel lead peter strzok, and carter paige, for example. in august of 2016, paige asked struck whether trump could really become president. struck responded confidently, and this to me, in my humble summation is smoking gun number two. saying, no, no. he's not going to be president. we'll stop it. now despite the smoking guns in

many ways durham's findings today that we read 300 pages worth that lead the news cycle are six years too late because the hoax worked. an entire presidency was derailed. the democratic party succeeded in demonizing russia making them our primary enemy not the chinese party and bringing us on the brink of nuclear war as we create a proxy war in ukraine. an entire three years of presidency was derailed, the country pitted against itself and everyone now has bought into lies and disinformation while pretending they are the warriors against disinformation. and in the end, after all of that, not only has no one been held accountable but this, i think, would be the the third smoking god in the dead body that is the trust in the united states institutions. not only were they not held accountable, they were so emboldened by the entire story that they did the same thing again in 2020 with hunter

biden's laptop. sean davis is the ceo of the federalist and he joins us now. sean great to see you this evening. pretty stunning information. i do wonder, sean, will it break through as the public sees this information, will anyone finally see the light and will anyone be held accountable? >> unfortunately, i don't think anyone will be held accountable because this is the end of the process conducted by john durham, not the beginning. he indicted who he was going to indict. the matter now is in the hands of congress and how they plan to do oversight. but you raise a really good question. will people see this? and i worry that, for many people, they won't because the news media, the corporate media, seems to believe that their job is to cover stories with a pillow until they stop breathing, a line taken from my friend iowa hawk. and if you made me put an over/under on the amount of time that the news networks are going

to give this tonight i would set it at zero and i would take the under unfortunately. >> sean i'm a little disheartened even with the initial reporting of this story the headline seems to be, even in platforms on platforms, even in channels where it's discovered that there was absolutely no evidence for the crossfire hurricane investigation, but to me, as i look at this, it's not about there being a lack of evidence but the total creation of evidence. it's a fake story. it's a hoax in which, not just was it perpetuated by the media and the dnc, but the fbi. >> you nailed it, and that's the worst thing here. you kind of expect a political campaign to do dirty tricks. you kind of expect, anymore, the corrupt media to pull dirty tricks. you don't expect it from your government. and what happened here was our own government, our own federal law enforcement agency, perpetrated a hoax directed at conning and gas lighting the american people. and i think the most important

thing you can gather from this report is that the fbi's a domestic terror organization. they use their power, they use their influence to try and lie, try to gas light the american people to try and rig an election. and i have a hard time looking at this and coming to any other conclusion than that the fbi had to be defunded. this wasn't one or two rogue agents, this happened from the very top. this was directed from the very top all the way down and it was a lie and a coup against our government, against our democracy, a term democrats love to use, perpetrated by our own government. >> sean i would say this, i would agree the fbi should be held accountable, culpable and at a minimum election interference. sean davis tfederalist has been all over this and we appreciate that. thank you for being with us tonight. >> thank you. >> jonathan turley is a george washington university law professor and he joins us now with more reaction to the durham report. jonathan, you know, when you hear this story laid out, and we

hope that we did an adequate job of laying it out. what amounts to a very complicated and long story but nonetheless so important, what's your biggest take away? >> well, it's complicated but it is also tragically simple. you know, the amazing thing about this report is to see the origin of this false story. you know, durham went on the issues like the salacious hotel story and found that there was no, sir source there. in fact, the people who apparently started the stories as you noted said that they had no basis for it. they often conflicted in their memory as to how it came about. and yet when that story was given to steele, three days later it was in the steele dossier. and that shows really what sort of a clown show this was. but this is also why clowns are pretty scary at times. that, you know, you had a

terribly salacious and damaging story put into the report by a group that was funded by the clinton campaign, and that then took off. and as you noted, it succeeded. but it's also the details. you know, this whole operationally was hidden in legal funding by mark eli as, the general counsel of the clinton campaign. reporters have said that they asked the clinton campaign, did you fund the steele dossier and the clinton campaign lied and said that they did not. and they later admitted that, in fact, they did fund it. later the campaign was sanctioned by the fec for hiding the money in that budget by elias. but you really get the granular detail here as to how this came about. but as you note, you know, all of these people are advocates of fighting disinformation because it's a danger to democracy. well, this is that danger. you actually used disinformation

against an elected president. >> i think we've learned the value of projection over the last several years, usually those casting the stones are guilty of the exact sin of which they accuse. here's the thing and i know this can get confusing for the viewer jonathan. it's almost, what is it, a seven year saga with characters from igor danchenko to mark sussmann. the key as you pointed out and clear in the durham report. the democratic party and hillary clinton not just funded but seeded these false stories, they created them with shady characters and no backing and then peddled it out to the media but, more importantly, because we know the media's full of buffoons, willing buffoons, to the fbi, and the big question i think is, why did the fbi just accept all of this without investigation? are we to now assume that the fbi, like the media, is simply a bunch of partisan hacks willing to engage in disinformation for accomplish a political outcome? >> well, some of them clearly

were. the fact is that comey, when comey said i never that you had i'd say these words about that hotel scene, he has no defense other than saying i really am not very good at what i do. either he was bias or the most pitiful excuse of an fbi director in the history of that bureau. because early on american intelligence threw a red flag on the steele dossier and said it actually might be russian disinformation. he could have picked up a phone and found out the same information and didn't. he went and did interviews. >> it's absolutely stunning. i said it can be complicated, you said in the tend it is simple and it is simple. it is, that lies were peddled to the american public to swing a presidential -- which failed but disrupted a presidency and really honestly our country's paid the price now for seven years. professor jonathan turley thank you so much. >> thank you will. >> so the do you remember am report didn't just throw the country into chaos it also

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♪ >> will: we're going to dig a little deeper and stick with the durham report a little bit longer tonight because i think it's pretty important when you understand that the highest levels of the american government undermined the voice of the people of america. now, what the durham report did is it confirmed for us what we strongly knew for years, that rogue actors at the highest levels of the fbi launched a series of politically motivated investigations into president donald trump in order to undermine his presidency. the allegations were always flimsy but through a slow drip of thinly sourced thinly valid leaks and crooked agents at the bureau they created a narrative that ham strung the trump administration for years. they used their powers to advance a political agenda and former attorney general matt whitaker witnessed their lies firsthand. he joins us now. matt great to have you on the program. seven years of this now 300

pages today. as you come to, i don't know if you've come to an understanding of something you already knew. >> yeah. >> will: but in essence the revelation of stuff that everyone should know that you've always known, what's your reaction. >> yeah, well, will, it's good to be with you tonight. aim not sure everything was known. what really i think frustrates me and should frustrate every american of good will is that when this information was received from the australian intelligence community and andy mccabe and peter strzok received it, they didn't verify it, they didn't check it out, they didn't compare it to what other intelligence operations knew about what the hillary clinton campaign was planning on doing they immediately opened an investigation and then almost immediately tried to get fisa warrants on carter page and george papadopoulos. and i think it's outrages that for three years, quite frankly, and, again, i was there as all this incoming was happening, that this flimsy beginning

turned into the massive controversy and every day, if you remember, bombshell after bombshell after bombshell, pulitzer prize were won on complete bs will. and it's just disgusting. >> will: it's absolutely disgusting. you know what, matt, we could do an hour on the media and we probably should. we should talk about the biggest disinformation perpetuateers over the last seven years maybe we should do that tomorrow night. i want to focus on probably the most important aspect and that's the curbings of the intelligence and security state. so you were referencing the leaks from australian intelligence, this is what led for example the investigation into george papadopoulos and this was the beginning. before that according to durham the fbi knew nothing. there was no inclination that there was anything connecting russia to trump but then they get this, not even source, australian hearsay about george papadopoulos and they lauren an investigation basically within 24 hours. but here's what i want to ask you, matt. they did that same thing every

step of the way for everything that came up. they kept digging. and so the question is, why? is the fbi corrupt? >> well, so, this is the hard thing for me, because the men and women, rank and file of the fbi, that are out there doing cases, are great people. and as we celebrate police week i don't want to paint with a broad brush. but there were individuals, andy mccabe, peter

>> george papadopoulos, he was a trump campaign volunteer when the fbi first put him in their cross heirs. the fed tried to tap his phones suggested he was guilty of treason and even charged him with a federal crime and sent him to prison. they destroyed george papadopoulos and the durham report shows they knew their reasons were bogus from the start. george papadopoulos is vindicated tonight and joins us now. george, it's an honor to have you. how do you feel today? >> well, thank you so much for having me, will. and i felix static. my wife and i have been

celebrating because this really didn't just tarnish my image it also tarnished my wife's image who stuck with me through this entire saga from beginning until end so i'm a lucky guy. i also had the support of so many americans out there and i really want to thank them from the bottom of my heart for believing in me and my wife and my family from day one as we resolve this egregious misconduct in this dark chapter in american history. so i'm ecstatic and i still believe there will be some fallout from this report. >> will: what kind of fallout do you think there will be? >> well, i think at the mcenroe level, this is a profound indictment of the u.s. intelligence community with grave and del torius consequences and an absolute vindication for myself the trump campaign and president trump and over 75 million americans who voted for him. when you target law abiden

citizens and try to overthrow our democracy like the fbi leadership did, heads have to roll. and the reason i say that is because, while the durham report had a lot of good information in there, it also hull strategic omissions, and i'll give you a couple examples. joseph is the individual who apparently launched not only the crossfire hurricane investigation, mueller, he was a key part of the aig's report, while he was strategically omited from durham's entire report, durham along with attorney general barr traveled to italy to learn about this guy but we didn't hear about him from durham. that's the first thing. the second, we didn't hear anything about stephon hall perfect the fbi informant who was moonlighting as some sort of professor out of cambridge. and i think we need to understand why those people were not mentioned and why i'm so happy to see congressman jordan tweeting publicly that he's invited john durham to testify publicly is because we need

accountability and transparency is needed for the american public to once again have trust in the system. >> will: yeah, congressman jordan says he wants to have durham report come before congress next week. before we go george i am curious to ask you, did you ever think, what, you sat down in a public in london to have a cocktail with a couple australian diplomats and it would lead to this? you're the start and we now know a false hood. did you ever in your wildest imaginations think that drink could lead to this? >> well, will i'm very happy that durham refuted that bogus premise because he state standard and president trump was vocal about it himself today, that there was absolutely no basis or foundation whatsoever to ever launch an investigation. he even publicly refuted what this australian diplomat mentioned and what the fbi took from him. so the entire thing was salacious, unfounded, unjust, the american people paid for it and there has to be retribution

and that all starts i believe through congress doing its work. >> will: george, i'm happy you feel vindicated today. i'm happy that the truth has been published. i think in order for former president donald trump's vindication the truth has to be yelled from the mountain tops and we appreciate you beginning that process with us tonight. george papadopoulos, thank you. >> thank you so much. >> will: all right, nba star john morant one of my most popular takes of the day. he was suspended because he posted a video of himself holding a gun. last time i checked that's not a crime. i don't know why, then, it is something that leads to him being suspended from his workplace. is there no line anymore between your work life and your private life? for dumb, but not illegal behavior. i'm going to have that debate with clay travis next. ♪ (vo) if you've had thyroid eye disease for years and your enflamed eyes are so watery, they need windshield wipers,

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>> will: we should call this segment my most unpopular opinion of the day. it revolves around memphis grizzly star john morant. he sparked an uproar over the weekend when a video emerged of him toting a gun in a moving vehicle. now more rant has in the past been plagued by disciplinary issues off the court in recent months including a similar incident a few weeks ago and the grizzlies now have already decided to suspend him. my question is this. what did morant do wrong in this video? what did he do that's illegal. what did he do that amounts to a suspension. his actions might have been dumb i'm not endorsing what he's doing here but they certainly weren't illegal and in my estimation i don't know how they're grounds for suspension. clay travis is a good friend of mine and has a different point of view. i'm happy to have him on the program tonight. clay, why am i off here. i don't understand why what jaw was doing in his private life deserves a suspension from the nba. >> i don't disagree in a broad context, and certainly, will,

you and i as two knuckle heads who have been employees of many different big media companies we want as expansive an idea of what employers can do that doesn't justify suspensions as possible. here's what i saw p about ja. standing alone if he had just posteded this video people who don't know he's listening to a rap song and waving around his hand gun if that were his exclusive misbehavior i think that probably violates the terms for his contract because he is for better or worse a role model that the nba and grizzlies want people to look up to. in the same way a kindergarten teacher would probably get fired if you had an only fans page even though technically you could do so. one single incident probably a big challenge but i think you built on it here. the problem is he had this inside of a strip club allegedly. there was an incident where he and members of his entourage

purportedly threatened the indiana pacers with a weapon, and then you also add in these allegations that he pulled a gun or brand i should a handgun in a dispute with someone in a pickup basketball game. so i think here what's going on is the griz have an as set et that's probably worth several hundred million dollars if he buckles down and becomes a complete basketball player and they're concerned his behavior off the court is going to keep that from happening and they're trying to protect the contractual value of their asset. >> will: i understand that to be the case and i understand the rationale. here's my argument against that. we've gone entirely too far. i understand that every private institution and private company has contracts and most have these vague moral interpretitude clauses. if you embarrass us we can suspend or fire you. my argument is that's become a catchall and that's entirely too invasive into everyone's private life that has nothing to do with the work environment. when kaepernick did what he did

and knelt during the national anthem it was because it was on the job clay he did it at the workplace. but, for example, i'll tell you this, you know, i don't understand why a couple of abc anchors get fired when they have an affair. it may be dumb but it's not illegal and it certainly didn't happen at msnbc when two anchors had an affair and subsequently got married. i don't know why our private life is always controlled by every aspect of our workplace. >> we agree a hundred percent on this. and, will, i'll take it outside of people that have contracts. my biggest issue is not with people who make millions of dollars and theoretically have a higher standard of behavior because of the money that they are making, right? my biggest issue is this, and i would encourage every employer and everything who's an employee thinks about this. when does what everybody says on facebook when it comes to their own political decisions be something every employer in america had to be concerned about. why do we care what aunt glad is thinks about gay marriage or

abortion. in her private life, this is the precedent that i believe has now moved through and i think it's totally wrong. punish actions not words or opinions. >> will: and that's what i'm getting at clay. >> yeah. >> will: people are going to be dumb. they can't be fired every time they're dumb. i'm not endorsing ja and if we go down this path i believe corporations will control their political thought if they think they have dominion over your private life. that's what i'm worried about here. i think what ja did was dumb but not illegal. all right clay i was looking forward to this conversation. >> totally under, good debate. >> will: not just republican voters upset about biden's immigration policy. nope. chicago residents are furious illegal immigrants are being transported to their communities. we're going to talk to one of those residents of chicago next after the break. >> while we have empathy for the humanitarian crisis, our priority is the humanitarian

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♪ >> will: republican congressman tony gonzalez from texas was at the border this weekends took video of the overcrowded migrant processing center you can see that on your screen now. gonzalez says he's unhappy with those downplaying the situation at the border as, quote, not that bad and that would include apparently the biden administration which claimed today that the numbers of illegal immigrants making crossings over the weekend was significantly lower than expected. but it turns out that's at least in part due to what amounts to a scandalous report that the administration has been coordinating with the mexican government. according to a report from the center for immigration studies, mexican immigration officers coordinated with u.s. customs and border patrol officials over what's app to map out migrant gatherings along the border and when those illegal immigrants might cross. tony gonzalez is a congressman representings texas and he joins us now.

congressman thank you for being with us. i find this absolutely scandalous. the biden administration and its leadership of cbp coordinateing with the mexican government to time the crossing of illegal immigrants so it doesn't look that bad. >> thank you for having me on, will, and this is what house republicans have to do. we have to expose the truth so the american people can be the judge of what is happening. we can't allow this to be normal. the reason why i went to el paso, besides i represent 60% of el paso county, is, everywhere in the media was saying it's not that bad. the numbers are half as what they were the day before. you look at these images, that's what not that bad looks like. let me go a step further. in that facility, it can house 1,000 people. there were 3,000 people that day. 2800 of those 3,000 people were single adult males crammed, some as many as 700 plus in an area that can hold a little over a hundred. there were other cells as well,

one with pregnant females a handful there and another cell with folks from the lgbtq community. here you only had a handful of people in the other cells meanwhile single adult males were crammed in there like sardines. this is what we have to do. we have to expose everything that's wrong with the biden administration. >> will: congressman i have to ask you on that note then i guess i'm somewhat confused maybe a little disappointed to find out that when you talk about this, as you did yesterday, when it comes to house leadership and kevin mccarthy you often refer to some of those republicans as demonizing illegal immigrants. you know, i don't know what language you might be pointing to or what instance or rhetoric you might be refer to, nor would i want to but pointing out this problem has often been dismissed as being xenophobic or racist or demonizing illegal immigrants when simply saying seeing this, the video you took congressman is untenable. >> yeah, well, i spent 20 years in the military and i'm not

looking to pass messaging bills. i want solutions and i think the american people demand solutions. have i ruffled feathers from time to time? yes, and i will continue to roughly feathers. this can't be the normal we can't pass legislation in the house knowing it's not going to go anywhere and wave a victory flag. we have to keep fighting keep holding the biden administration administration accountable until there is change. a district like mine i don't have the luxury of blaming democrats for everything that's wrong. the people that i represent demand change and what i'm starting to see is people are becoming numb to it. when i was in this border patrol station they said tony it's not that bad and i'm taking a step back going there's 750 people in this one cell. so i think the american people demand change not just -- >> will: really quickly congressman i appreciate that note i truly do. so what i would say and i'm asking this earnestly when i democrats talk comprehensive reform it's an escape hatch so this conversation never gets

resolved. so when you talk about actual real change it has to start with stopping this at our southern border. so what is real change that you propose that can be accomplished? >> it's pretty simple. it worked under the trump administration enforce the laws already on the books and if a person doesn't qualify for asylum send them back. i think the message should be republicans are for legal immigration and we are absolutely against illegal immigration. republicans are for legal immigration, democrats are for illegal immigration. if that's the message we win all across the country. that's what i've been trying to push the party towards getting toward. >> will: with the addendum the asylum claims is a loophole or process that has been abused and we have to look at the current situation with asylum claims. congressman tony gonzalez, i really appreciate that conversation. hopefully we can find a real solution because it's absolutely necessary. thank you. >> thanks will. thanks will. >> will: so democrats, as you just heard, support mass illegal immigration until apparently it

comes to their doorstep and that's when illegal immigrants show up at their schools, their hospitals and on their roads, that's what you're seeing for example, in new york, as you hear about school gyms being filled with illegal immigrants, it's also happening in chicago. a south shore chicago residents took to the streets this weekend to protest 500 illegal immigrants arriving in their district. watch. >> the south shore community, a community that is predominately comprised of the descendants of once-enslaved african americans that the same proved detrimental in the past under the guise of eminent domain are being used for asylum seekers without our advisement our permission. i will say about this community, to rebuke efforts by the texas governor, and everyone between here and there who think we will overlook this nationwide effort

to use immigration as a tool to destroy our neighborhoods, and water down our ability to make political difference under the guise of philanthropy and grace. >> will: that's a pretty fascinating curveball. that man, j darnell jones, was reportedly a dei director at a real estate firms so it seems there are limits to the embrace of diversity. these south shore residents, they filed a lawsuit to block chicago's plan to house illegal immigrants in the community. it's understandable. it's actually a very understandable position that a community on the brink sitting on the edge of poverty in many cases, is all of a sudden flooded with the requirement to support illegal immigrants. but it does bring up the obvious hypocrisy of the embracement of equity. now, one thing we would like to talk to these residents of chicago about is, if it's a problem in your neighborhood wouldn't it also be a problem

where the immigrants are resituating en masse. take a look at this map published by heritage it tracks biden phones handed out to illegal immigrants and what you see there is the geo location of biden phones spreading across the country, the vast majority, in fact according to heritage, almost 71% of illegal immigrants, have resituated in red districts across this country. so we'd love to talk to the members of that chicago community that, if it's something that is hard for your community, you can imagine how hard it is where the vast majority of illegal immigrants are being resettled. one of those residents will hopefully join us here tomorrow night on fox news tonight. we hope to talk to some more democratic leaders and their voters about this back and forth about this dichotomy in the future. a scientist are now pushing people to eat bugs to solve climate change. can bugs really supplement animal protein or, god forbid

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need alternatives and i see insects as a perfect tool. >> will: why does everyone who wants us to eat bugs and control the world sound literally like a bondville and. why do they all sound -- klaus schwab why do they sound like that? insect stakes yum. dr. marc siegel joins us now with his reaction. dr. siegel, how many cockroaches do i have to eat to amount to like an 8-ounce burger? >> a lot. and we in the western world think of cockroaches as these slimy things trying to get away and hiding in the dark and, forget it, we're not going to eat them. there's a very large degree of revolition will in western research. i then interviewed .

>> at the end i said to myself i'm not doing this again. let me burst myths. first of all 80 percent of the world eats insects and there are a trillion farmed bugs in the world and they have to eat. they eat corn. so you're not saving the planet farming insects to eat or for animals. >> what does a grasshopper taste like? >> it hides in an avocado. it tastes like you're crunching on something like a peanut, but i have to tell you the producers ate a scorpion and washed it

down with tequila. >> i think of wild bugs i think of you. >> will, i'm afraid of allergies. >> and insects can have parasites. >> thanks dr. siegel. with that it's another reason why america is exceptional. >> what's wrong with a couple of bugs? high in protein tastes delicious. try a cockroach for dinner tomorrow night. well to hannity. a live report from the border our own bill m. where apprehension peaking at over 10,000 per day including individuals on the terror watch list. thousands more have evaded arrest. we have ho