♪ ♪ >> hello, everyone. this is "outnumbered." i am emily compagno with kayleigh mcenany and harris faulkner in joining us today director of the tech policy center at the heritage foundation, care of frederick, and chairman of o'leary ventures, kevin o'leary. we begin with president biden a short time ago honoring nine public safety officers with the medal of valor for their bravery and heroic actions.

including two police officers who gave their lives in the lie of duty here in new york city. wilbur mora and jason rivera, they were ambushed while responding to domestic violence violence call last january. rivera died that day. he left behind his childhood sweetheart and wife and did not live to see the birth of his child. the 27-year-old was shot in the head. he had a bullet lodged in his brain. he was on life support and died days later. house lawmakers also passed a new resolution on monday that memorialized police officers killed the line of duty and expressed condolences to their loved ones. while the house resolution was approved with near unanimous support, two progressive congresswoman voted against honoring those fallen officers. democratic squad members rashida tlaib and cori bush were the only two lawmakers to vote

nay. i have the honor at the blue lives matter nyc gala to be present and help give out the archangel awards the families of those fallen officers. my question is, shouldn't support for law enforcement and isn't support for law enforcement bipartisan? why the dissent? >> kevin: 's the idea that after someone has fallen and given their life in service and left the family behind that it wouldn't be bipartisan and 100% supported is alien to 99% of people in america. the most important thing to remember about this vote is they own that vote for the rest of their lives. they are wearing a badge of shame in my view. it's outrageous that they wouldn't have supported, regardless of your politics or what party you are associated with or what you think about law enforcement, wants the life is lost there's only one outcome. you have to honor it. both of those people in my view

have now tainted their brands and personalities and power as politicians forever. this has to remain on the records and should be shoved in their face in perpetuity. i'm outraged. i don't think they should even have their jobs anymore. this is insane. who could ever not support fallen first service or you know police or fire or anybody that serves in the army or navy or military. i don't get it. i am irish catholic. this is like, i know where they are going in the long run. that's how i feel about it. >> emily: went kevin mentions the alien concept to the 99% of people apparently however protection is not alien to everyone because these same two dissenters that i agree should bear that mark of shame forever, cori bush for example spent over half a million dollars in campaign cash on her private security including to her now

husband who is unlicensed. rashida tlaib is not immune. she enjoyed $12,000 worth of private security services. apparently protection is only noble when it's out of uniform when it's unlicensed, when it's for them. >> kayleigh: of course it is. rules for the, not for me. when you make aoc more moderate than you, can you relegate yourself to the far, far far left if we can even call it that. you've got something going on. you've got some issues. it's not just these two individuals. i want to broaden this out and make it about democrats more broadly because he is what we've seen. democrats say republicans want to defund the policeman what a ludicrous thing to say we all know that's not true. but it's your party, to democrats who voted against memorializing these officers. no republicans joined you and beyond that there is another bill, d.c. put in a really radical bill to target police officers according to their union, take away their due process as d.c. battles crying. 14 democrats vote to overturn

d.c. goes to the senate, nine democrats joined republicans and vote over over overturned the d.c. requirements. joe biden, website says we will no longer support congressional efforts to overturn common sense police reforms for it wasn't just -- when you have a president who stands five police officers in word and he had a beautiful ceremony today, my question is where are your actions? joint with members of congress who say let's protect our officers. >> emily: you covered the funeral of arianna preston, designated in the line of duty so her family can get those well-deserved benefits. to keeley's point, women's lives matter. black lives matter. if the black life is in a blue uniform does that not matter. is that why there's been

crickets for the death of arianna preston or so many more who gave their lives serving but don't have the box checked that the left wants. >> harris: they are anesthetized by their own gutter politics. they are asleep at the switch. it's national police week. i had a former lieutenant who cried as he watched the funeral. her names would be among the names added to the wall and he had left that wall for the names just added, 247 in the last year. he is tired of the onslaught of people dying for the rest of us and no respect from everybody. so i get it. i don't know and i agree with kayleigh, i don't think this is left or right. i think it's gutter politics. these people have their own brand. you don't think -- you can see it on youtube, her

being carted away and yelling and cussing at cops as they pull her out from some event she was trying to get her point across. when these women, cori bush and rashida tlaib and come, national police week, they are obliviouso anything going on with their own gutter politics and they know how effective their voices will be because they are truly stars in that party. if they were not, they would be quieted. they found a way to quiet bernie sanders, didn't they when he tried to run. he didn't get on the ticket. the left can do it but you said something that really moved me. you said "i know where we're going." kevin, can we not go there? where are we going? >> kevin: i was just saying long-term. in my view, those people are unelectable to any position of consequence because the majority of the population, regardless of politics or gender, this is just

so foreign. the idea that someone gives up their life and you don't support them and their family afte afterwards? it's so foreign to me and 1099s .9% of americans. are unelectable. their brands are garbage to me. >> harris: the president of the united states was told by generals. >> emily: they are unelectable, it's why it's such a travesty. these people are being paid by all the people they purport to represent but are such fringe or presenters. there is apsley no logic. moments before cori bush defended that obscene amount of money she paid on private security, she said what, do you want me to die? moments after calling to defund the police. the oblivion in full display because there is no rationale,

no logic and it is pure screaming hypocrisy to the detriment of the respect these officers deserve. >> kara: is pretty rich coming from cori bush. she said she spent $62,000 on a security specialist that she later married. she knows how important it is to have frankly good guys with guns protecting her. clearly she married once what makes a difference. i also think it's important one you look at people willing to bear the consequences of leftist ideology. we are citizens. we are not subjects, as you open with. we are paying their salaries. we are citizens and we should be treated as such. we should be protected by the government. that's the first member government is supposed to do, to ensure the protection of its citizens. that's number one. talk about ideology and leftism and the consequences of those gutter politics, you look at the

rogue prosecutors on the das. propagating soft-on-crime policies and demoralizing police. in chicago, lori lightfoot, she was voted out. brandon johnson who is an advocate of defunding support for the police was voted in as well. how many bodies are going to have to pileup before this is over? >> emily: that's right. again, the husband she paid, he is unlicensed. the good guys with guns deserve respect, admiration, and their families post deaths in the line of duty deserve all the condolences, prayers and support from this country. coming up vice president, harris might want to double-check your facts. the vp suggesting republicans want to ban women's history in the classroom. that's next. loan and paying off your high rate credit card debt and still have cash left over to put in the bank? with the newday 100 va cash out loan, you could do it all.

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♪ ♪ >> kayleigh: we have all seen the pictures of president biden with flash cards during public appearances maybe it's time kamala take a cue from her boss. she didn't seem to have her facts straight last night. the vice president seemed to suggest the push to ban gender ideology classes would mean banning women's history as well. >> they even want to eliminate classes that teach "gender ideology." so what are we talking about here? classes that teach women's history? women's equality? do they want to eliminate the study of pay equity? that women make $0.84 on the

dollar. how dare they make a mockery of these issues? >> kayleigh: no one has said that ever in the republican party. when we talk about gender ideology and classrooms it is talking about teaching trans ideology, especially the sexuality with young children. kamala harris knows that she doesn't want the american public to know that because there was a new poll they came out last w week. support for those who think it's inappropriate to discuss these issues with k through three. 77% say it's inappropriate. grades four and five, 70% say it's inappropriate. middle school, still 52% say inappropriate. she's on the wrong side of this. >> kara: absolutely. when i think -- never, harris opens her mouth, you can assume the opposite is true. whatever this woman touches turns to ash. she is the border czar. look at what's happening at the border. they sent her to the munich conference. that's not going very well.

biden is putter and touch of artificial intelligence policy. i'm quaking in my boots about this because it's a transformative technology that deserves an adult in charge and she's not that person. it's the gender ideology. the propagation of children. propagandize ation of children. it's time for americans to say no, to stand for truth and say this is not going to go into the heads of our children whether in the education system, whether through social media, tiktok and those digital platforms run by the chinese communist party. americans have to stand up like they did of bud light and places like target, stand up and say you can't put gender ideology on onesies for our children. it's done. americans need to rise up and say no. >> kayleigh: it's not the first bizarre thing we have heard from the left. first it was ban teaching of black history and teaching of the holocaust.

it's not. >> don't want our children to know that slavery was wrong as i fight against slavery today that still exist? >> maga republicans don't want the children of america to learn about the holocaust. >> it's incomprehensible to see that this is what this ban or block to be more specific, that desantis has put forward, if you think about the study of black americans, that is what he wants to block. >> kayleigh: all lies. he never blocked that. >> harris: it's interesting when you hear them talking. big picture and overall they are talking about paying black people for slavery. so where do they really stand? what they are teaching the younger generations, yes, yes that g.o.p. has no idea what happened in slavery. everybody knows. it's the united states. we know. i am hoping that they are still going to teach everything in school. i would say that to the

white house press secretary petey don't want to leave anything out. you can't make everything right with a dollar. they are teaching them if you pay them enough maybe a black folk will forget about that part in history won't matter. if you take down the statues, then history won't matter. this is my protectant with kamala harris we need news conferences. she is a heartbeat away from a man who at the end of the potential second term would be 86 years old. we need to ask her she cares that much about women, what about title ix? her boss is getting ready to mess with that. >> kayleigh: florida and red states across the country, they teach all history. total lies, from the left. we heard this from joe biden last night, the president, who he thinks he works for, kevin. >> i want to thank every single person in this room for leading the way in that fight, it's a critical fight. it's about democracy, it's about freedom. i also want to thank my buddy

kamala who i work for up in the white house. for leading on this issue. >> kayleigh: doesn't know how to pronounce his bosses name. >> kevin: i saw that clip. what i have told my ceos about this gender identity issue because it is turning into an issue very close to the abortion issue. you will never get 100% of voters in america or anybody out there. 50% will always have a different view. so in my perspective as an investor, you wade into this topic. you will disenfranchise 50% of your constituency 100% of the time. if you want to go down the road and you want to start debating it and you're in business, you're going to run into some really big problems. it's like desantis and the disney fight. you've got to think where you

are going. read the room. >> kayleigh: "washington post" buried those numbers. they came out in march and we learned about them last week. 77% agree with what governor desantis did in k through three education. that similar mess. >> emily: of course they do because 77% have common sense and understand the values and ideals we are talking about. the inflammatory fringe is what the vice president capitalized song. it's what woke businesses capitalize on because they are virtue signaling and that's what will help them gain votes with not only the youth but certain fringe that they want. by her otherizing, demonizing, and missing the point. the only way they can get up to 50%, the only way they can start magnetizing voters to them as if they make the other side appear like demons. the staunch hypocrisy.

for example, and women's rights and women's victims advocacy groups in california they are still suing her and complaining for her absolute rejection of them and their trauma in the realm of cybersecurity, the realm of revenge pornography. she enjoyed the silicon valley dollars and contrary to a she promised them, they thought she was going to protect them. she doesn't care about women is my point here doesn't care about the truth and neither does the left which is why the narrative will be exactly what she said. we work for women. we bolster women's rights. and the right will erase women's history in the classroom. it's false but they will perpetuate it. >> kayleigh: good luck with the republicans want to ban women's history. we have some pretty great women. more "outnumbered" in just a moment

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♪ ♪ >> harris: missouri senator josh hawley of the great state of missouri again thanks americans men are in crisis. he's a republican, one of the best attorneys in the country now calling out the left's push to remove masculinity from american culture. he's also an author and he writes that our nation needs more strong male figures. >> america needs stronger men. look at the statistics. we've got record numbers of suicide among men. record levels of depression. record levels of drug abuse and alcohol abuse. at the same time we've got more and more men who are out of the workforce. they are not even trying to work. they are not having families where they are leaving their families. if we want to end and child poverty in america, put fathers back in the home is providing for we want to end the childhood crime epidemic, teenagers, the crimes, the violence, put a father back in the home. we need men to be strong. we need them to step up, we need

them to take responsibility in the lies the leftist howling by saying manhood is inherently toxic and to be a man in and of itself makes the world worse, that's not true. we need to be sending the opposite message. >> harris: i have a senator on last hour and one of the things he was saying is people don't have to listen to what's going on with all the negative talk about men. they can look at their own lives and figure out and make things better. >> kevin: let me speak as a man. >> harris: please do. >> kevin: i think they're all suffering from what i call the post-pandemic blues. that all of society, almost globally is trying to readjust to the new reality of what the world is like. talk about suicide rates, drug addiction, that was really rough run, that pandemic. a change young cohorts that came up. men and women. they are trying to figure out, i just got out of it in the last 90 days. one of my going to be now? i really believe it's going to

take a little period of adjustment to find a new identity of who you are particular if you spent three years isolated and you are in your mid-20s. i deal with that my own family. my friends, my daughter and son. we talk about a quite a bit. they are feeling a little, you know, unadjusted right now. i really think that give it 12 months, 18 months, everything will go right back to the way it was and we will move on. this is a period of transition. >> harris: i don't know if it will snap back but it will take us someplace for that we can deal with better than now for sure. you and i were talking about the transgender genealogy and when you teach that at all of that may be what kevin is pointing to has to do with the sort of, well, who am i and what i might? >> kayleigh: yes. people have lost touch with who are they supposed to be, what makes you happy in life that i love what he said on your show about fathers being the answer

to so much of the maladies we see. he is so right about that. josh hawley takes it a step further and says what does it look like to be a man of faith and he goes back to some of the greatest examples of male role models in the bible. abraham, totally devoted to his wife and god and gets child in the end. did a lot of good here and what is appalling to me is to see the vitriol with which society is taking on josh hawley's message. one people -- people leaving a one star review when the book hasn't come out. i applaud you, senator hawley. >> kara: it's interesting that you bring up fatherhood and faith because the number one influence on whether or not your progeny maintains your religious affiliation is of the father is faithful. if he brings the children to church. you have your mother that can be your spiritual leader but i will say i love you, mother but the one thing that made me stay a faithful catholic was seeing my

father on his knees walking past the bedroom, seeing him pray every single morning and it matters. it matters what the father does. so yes i encourage that and it's a great point and that's how america is going to succeed in the future with family formation and everything. it's up to the father and of course you got to have a strong woman next to you. >> harris: emily, i think about the negative rhetoric we have about police officers, military officers. part of what has to happen in this country to take down that really is a most like hatred towards men. it certainly feels that way at times, to make sure the rhetoric and change, say loving things and believe them. >> harris: absolutely i thought senator hawley was spot on when he said right now stronn are being blamed for everythinge to the patriarchy, he said strong, better men are the solution. they are not the problem, signing all of your points with the rising teen violence, the

rise in male teen violence. the arrest rate. all of that study show reduces with a strong man of faith in the home. it's heartbreaking the amount of knee-jerk reaction to that. as we follow the story of penny and neely on the subway. when culture calls for someone to step in who then would it be. who then would it be. if strongmen are being condemned. if the notion of strength in general is being condemned. who then. >> harris: who then. one of the u.s. marine vets has been very outspoken about supporting daniel penny at the heart of that says well, it is a "who then" situation. we complain about men holding their phones up and getting violence in video and putting it out but when one steps in and brings whatever it is too close he says obviously it's a tragedy how it ended in this case with jordan neely dying. he said and at the same time we can still have a thirst and a call for someone to stand up and let that be a man.

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who don't recall how his mom died. i would find it hard to believe that there was a two hour high-speed chase. but we will find out the exact duration of it. if it's a ten minute chase, it's extremely dangerous. any type of high-speed chase that involves something of that nature is inappropriate. police do it under limited circumstances when they are going after violent people but to do it because you want to get the right shot can turn out to be a place where people couldn't be harmed in a real way. >> harris: where he started was they don't exact they don't happen so we know that the nypd is waiting and they are going to corroborate and look at this case and be able to make a statement at some point but they are not making it now. i would say if you're in brooklyn, new york, which is where prince harry and

meghan markle were yesterday for an awards ceremony, the spokesperson sang part of this "this relentless pursuit lasted over two hours, resulting in multiple near collisions involving other drivers on the road, pedestrians and two nypd officers while being a public figure comes with a level of interest from the public it shor come at the cost of anyone's safety. dissemination of these images given the ways in which they were obtained encourages a highly intrusive practice that is dangerous to all involved." again, as i was going to say, emily. you can't really have a high-speed chase very many places in brooklyn. i mean, this is one the most densely populated burros of the five. if it were a stand alone would be in the top five cities of all of america, that's how big brooklyn is. on a postage stamp. >> emily: the ap mentions one of the two videos i have shows meghan and harry in a taxicab in standstill traffic, to your

point, with photographers and videoing them through the windows so course we will wait to hear the finality of the investigation, the comments from nypd and i also note that the ap points out that carrie's fury at the media they say has been building for years. he blames them for the death of his mother he also blames them for relentless pursuit of megan, in his words. they have sued the press multiple times so we wait for the facts that i will say it seems clear to me that the heightened sensitivity and heightened sense of trauma with anything associated with the paparazzi so i'm sure they feel sensitive. >> harris: i want to add that they went on to the upper east side of manhattan as well. >> kevin: all of this is on tape. within 48 hours, so that enough cameras in brooklyn to catch every move. we will know. a comment on these two, i think they should have never got off the boat. their business model now assisting the press 24/7 so they

can monetize it. i feel sorry for them. because that's not going to work forever. when you were born into the monarchy and you marry into the monarchy, you know the package deal. you know it with certainty what your life is going to be like, yes there is downside to it but it's an unprecedented life in terms of what it gives you a platform to do and i think harry and meghan blewett. >> emily: to your point, kate knew exactly what she was signing up for her and she embraced it gracefully. >> kevin: they make a -- made a mistake, that's what i think. i do not they can get back on the boat. there is the famous saying in apocalypse now, "never leave the boat" because the tiger eats you. but tiger is eating them every day. >> harris: quite visual. you and i watched the netflix special. he watched it twice. what kevin is saying, we saw it kind of play out. they took part in that whole thing. it was all about fame and

staying in the limelight and there is also a price to pay with that. >> kayleigh: we don't know what happened and no one should be chased by the paparazzi in my view, no one should be heckled. i would be interested in the other cameras. if it happen for two hours they were reportedly near collisions. i would think there would be better footage. there is a chase going on. brooklyn in the upper east side, i would love to know more but the point of the documentary, yes, paparazzi is something megan talked about constantly. something that very much bothered her. there were some scenes in there and she was in a car and is visibly shaken by paparazzi. how that fear plays into this i think remains to be told that we obviously know the tragedy of what happened with princess diana. >> harris: we will wait. you made excellent point. especially along the east side, such a huge population center. people on the sidewalks. it's a corridor that you don't want -- to >> kevin: every inch of

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congressman roe, and on the economist will join us. >> police have told chicago business owner he needs to polices business himself. with a shortage of police but will they increase in crime crisis cost america? >> should biological males be accepted in the college sororities? caitlyn jenner has a few thoughts about that. >> senator john thune and the fallout from the durham report. is anyone owed an apology? >> can't wait to join you top of the hour in washington. see you then. ♪ ♪ >> kayleigh: a lot of country music today, it's fantastic. time for "in case you missed it. elon musk sharing his real feelings about working from home. he says the so-called laptop class is working in la-la land or needs to get back to the office asap. it's a matter of morality.

>> i think the whole notion of work from home is a bit like the fake reentrant" "let them eat cake." it's a moral issue. who wants to get off their [bleep] moral high horse, they are asking everyone to not work from home while they do. >> kayleigh: i get the equity argument. it's like we all worked from home while the meat-packers packed our meat during covid. >> kevin: i understand that we want engineers to collaborate in person. look at the problem he's going to have with twitter. you're asking people to go to san francisco downtown and work? it's a war zone. you risk your life. many people are working remotely. out of the state of california. they are the best and brightest, not going to work for twitter. so 40% of people have not come back. the world has changed, sorry.

>> kayleigh: i still get his point. i don't know about the morality part but the equity part i understand. >> emily: kevin, in all the companies that you won't do you find that the remote has affected negatively? is there any detriment, any truth at all to what he is saying that the remote impacts of business? >> kevin: in the areas of accounting, logistics. people used torque and cubicles. they have left and they are doing a great job. project management pair you set a goal for them and they achieve it. it works. america has changed. >> harris: i was reading that one of the highest areas for wage increase has been project managers. but i didn't think of them as being corralling everybody who is working from home. i thought they meant in office spaces but not make sense. >> kevin: they are managing time. >> kayleigh: would you charge your adult children rent to live at home? i wouldn't but it's sparking a fierce debate.

we hashtag #parentschargingrent. one texas couple is going viral after they charge their 19-year-old daughter $200 for rent after high school. parents say this was a fema to prepare her for adulthood and get her to realize that everything is not free. i read about these parents, respectfully i don't think i would charge blake a month after she graduates. >> i can't see charging my own daughter but i think there's something to be said for financial literacy. if your parents are not going to teach you financial literacy, okay, why not injected into some of the curriculum sensitive dia and crt. why don't we teach kids how to be responsible with their money. basics of investing, what a credit card can do for you and how it can hurt you. that's important. if parents are going to charge rent, may beget financial literacy in the school.

>> kayleigh: dave ramsey, they embraced his philosophy. they were good parents. >> harris: my 14 and 16-year-olds are very innovative. they already have jobs. danica, who is 14, when she was 11, she said i want my own dog walking service. at least she got to go outside. so i teach my kids that financial freedom is tied to freedom in general. so i want them to be self sustainable and be able to take care of themselves. if i pay for everything. if they are hurting of course i'm going to take care. >> kevin: i say kick them out at 18 and make them pay. >> kayleigh: i created a weed pulling business called the weed corral. not a lot of revenue. michelin star meals will soon be served on the edge of space. a luxury hot air balloon expense featuring michelin star meals at the adage of the atmosphere. bottomless champagne servant 80,000 feet. the flights are set to kick off

at the end of next year. unite you might need mr. wonderful to pick up the bill. hundred $30,000 paid >> kevin: dumb, dumb, dumb idea. >> harris: for $130,000? >> kevin: you can get a good watch for that. >> emily: i love space and i love to eat. i'm terrified of those hot air balloons. i will eat that michelin starred meal with my feet on the ground. >> kayleigh: with bottomless champagne on the ground. >> harris: breaking news. new york city police department has just released this statement. we told you this was coming and now it's out. it's on the incident involving prince harry and meghan markle. here's a quote. "on wednesday evening, may 16, the nypd assisted the private security team protecting the duke and duchess of sussex. there were numerous

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don't have what we have. we may have the trappings of wealth, but the emotional aspect, sharper than a serpent's total tooth kind of thing. i've been so blessed with this, but there are complications. you don't escape the realities of life, period, it catches up to everybody. >> i've done a lot of research on this topic and i can tell you this, money does not buy you happiness, but it makes being miserable a lot easier. that's how it works. i like money. i'm good with it. >> emily: tell us how money makes you more miserable. >> no, it makes miserable a lot easier. money is freedom, that's what it is in america. it's not the greed of money, it's personal freedom. what you want to achieve in your life, i tell everybody this, the ability to actually spend your time the way you want to and the only way you do that in america is your successful as an

entrepreneur. money equals freedom. pursuing freedom, that's what i teach my young cohorts. it's not greed of money, it's personal freedom. and i spend my day doing exactly what i want and if the phone rings and i don't want to answer it i don't. that's freedom. >> emily: and emotionally and in the family you have the same issues regardless of income, so family and faith in terms of your sense of fulfillment. >> i'm a first time mom and to have a duty to someone else, put someone else before you, not that i don't for my husband, sorry, buddy, but when you have -- when you recognizing that foremost kernel of truth that your life is not about you, that's when you are happy. >> kayleigh: i love he talks about as trappings and complications, a lot of people don't have a whole lot but get the big questions in life right.

family, faith, and when you get those questions right, those people are a lot better off than some people swimming in money. >> harris: i love that, so beautifully put. toughest of times when you have love around you. i guess it may feel like money but it's not quite the same. >> emily: we have love around us on this couch, mr. wonderful. thank you for joining us today. here is "america reports." >> one of the things coming out of this is it's clear that the fbi, the problem came from the top. >> i think a week from now we'll hardly remember the name durham. >> lives were ruined because of this illegal weaponization of the fbi and doj to do the political bidding of the hillary clinton campaign. >> what you have with john durham, it's a big fat nothing. >> john: battle lines drawn between those who think the durham report was a nothing burger and critics accusin