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default is not let me say it again. default is not an option. and i expect each of the expect each of these leaders excuse me to live up to that commitment. america has never defaulted, never defaulted on our debt, and it never will. the speaker and i'll be talking later on the plane as we head back because it's what five or six success at seven o'clock in the morning there and our teams are going to continue working. now. we've had a we've had a packed few days here in hiroshima. and i think was very productive, important meetings at the g seven summit in president zelenskyy of ukraine as well as the prime minister of india. this is my third trip to the indo pacific as president and i
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look forward to rescheduling my stops in papua new guinea and australia later. i've spoken with the prime minister papa new guinea and secretary blinken is traveling there to meet with his pacific islander partners at that moment and i'm also going to be hosting and i've spoken with the prime minister and hosting the pacific island forum in washington this fall because i'm unable to meet and papa new guinea. the prime minister, were you have a state visit later this year end i would think the president for his outstanding. is not hyperbole that is outstanding leadership. as well as the entire japanese government. they've shown to jill, myself and the whole team. being in the city and visiting the memorial on friday was a powerful reminder of nuclear war, and a shared responsibility to never cease our efforts to
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build for peace and together with the leaders of the g7 we have read iterated our commitment to work toward a world free and the threat of nuclear weapons. over the past few days they have showcased the unity among the g7. it's a very different organization than it was five, seven years ago. were addressing the challenges most of the world. we are united to strengthen global health security and yesterday announced the united states plans to contribute $250 million to the pandemic fund at the world bank to make sure the world is better prepared to prevent, protect and respond to future pandemics. we are united in our commitment to climate action and accelerating the transition to a global clean energy economy by investing in the industry of the future. we are united in our push to
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build a resilient inclusive economy that can better withstand the shocks that we experience over the last few years including by building a more secure and more diversified supply chain. through the partnership of global infrastructure and investment which we launch last year the g7 summit in germany and we address infrastructure needs that are holding back too many low and moderate income countries particularly in the global south. the united states is are demobilized more than $30 billion in pgi i projects around the globe. a significant step toward a collective pledge with the g7 to mobilize $600 billion in investment by 2027. we resolved for the multilateral development banks to view the more flexibility and better able to fight poverty and respond to global challenges. we are also united in our approach the people's republic
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of china. a statement released yesterday outlines a shared principle we all agree that the g7 and beyond dealing with china. were not looking to decouple from china. we are looking to de- risk and diversify our relationship with china. that means taking steps to diversify our supply chain so were not dependent on anyone country for necessary product. it means resisting economic coercion together and countering harmful practices that hurt her workers. protecting a narrow set of advanced technologies, critical for national security and those elements are all agreed on by the g7. finally joined here at hiroshima by president zelenskyy and the g7 reaffirmed our shared and unwavering commitment to stand with the brave people of ukraine as they defend themselves against russia's brutal war of aggression in the war crimes
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being committed. together with our partner countries we reiterated the need for just peace that respects ukraine sovereignty and territorial integrity both core principles of the un charter, russia started this war in russia could ended today's by withdrawing the troops from ukraine internationally recognizing borders and seizing its assault, until then the ability to defend itself is essential to in this world permanently and through diplomacy. this morning i once shared and assured president zelenskyy with all g7 members and our allies and partners around the world, putin will not break as he thought he could almost three years ago we will provide economic manager union and security you assistance to
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ukraine so can stand strong as long as it needs it. today the united states announced artillery, ammunition and tank weapons and bridging equipment to help ukraine succeed in the battlefield. i'm proud of meeting president zelenskyy after the meeting and with the staff, told the united states together with our allies and partners we will begin training ukrainian pilots and fourth generation fighter aircraft including f-16 to strengthen ukraine's air force as a long-term commitment to ukraine's ability to defend itself. we provided the last year all they needed to do with what they were doing without the moment and that's when were moving into the direction of putting in a position to defend themselves in ways beyond what they've had to deal with so far. the past few days have once more underscored how important america's global leadership is,
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presumption thing for american president to say but you can find it if you ask any of my colleagues is true. the security and prosperity of america people are substantially increased my working in concert with the closest allies and partners to build a future of greater economic strength and resilience in a world that is more peaceful and stable in on many of these issues that matter to the american people. accelerating her clean energy and preventing another pandemic, dealing with china, standing up for ukraine. the meetings that i had with my fellow g7 leaders have left united, resolved and more determined to set up for the greater progress in the months ahead. this is been an extremely significant important summit. with that in going to take some questions and trevor reuters. were resolved and determined to set up a verb under greater progress. can i take some questions.
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trevor of reuters. >> you spoke a moment ago of what you want to with and am interested what you signaled a moment ago about what you won't do in terms of negotiations with republicans but i'm interested in what you signaled you already might do. in particular by conceiving in these negotiations to some form of a cap or freezing spending. you can say that mr. mccarthy has already forced you into accepting a policy position that could tip this economy into a recession. >> no i do believe that the case at all. as a matter of fact, i think we can reach an agreement. as i told you and you made me aware that you've seen it. we have provided for a proposal that would cut a trillion
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dollars off the baseline that a year before by agreeing to what was initially offered and secondly were in a situation, let me put it this way, if you all are doing your budget at home and you said okay we have to make some cuts would you only look at suspending or would you also look at your income what is coming in the door to determine how you move forward. part of what i've been arguing from the beginning is the need to consider the tax structure as well as cutting spending. i'm willing to cut spending in our proposed cuts in spending over a trillion dollars. but i believe we have to look at the tax revenues the idea that my republican colleagues want to
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continue the $2 trillion tax can have profound negative impacts on the economy from the trump administration. the fact that we provided for the number and got a lot of input from serious economists and former administration officials of both parties and we need more people who are qualifying to look at the tax returns and the thousand billionaires in america. very complicated stuff. it's estimated if we have the appropriate number of tax personnel that we would save somewhere between $200,000,000,400,000,000,000 in tax revenue and there's a lot of other -- and an example taxes that they refused, for example, i was able to balance the budget and pass anything from the global warming bill anyway.
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i was able to come by $1.7 billion in the first two years the deficit that we are accumulating and because i was able to say to the 55 corporations in america that made $400 billion or $40 billion that they pay 0 and tax. we said you have to pay a minimum of 50% taxes. what a horrible thing your pay more than 50% taxes, everyone of you out there. guess what we not only balance the budget we were able to reduce the deficit by $1.7 billion. this is a lot of things that we refused to look at in terms of tax generation as well as what kind of people were going to increase taxes for. like i said we went for roughly
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740 billionaires to about a thousand billionaires in the pain average tax rate of 8%. raise your hand if you want to pay 8% only. my point is there is a lot of things that refuse to entertain and i just said revenue is off the table. revenue is not off the table so that why we continue to have a significant disagreement on the revenue side. >> you think the spending cuts will be cost essential. >> i know they won't. the fact that we were able to cut government spending by $1.7 trillion because the recession and growth the lowest unemployment and 50 years 7 million jobs 800,000
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manufacturing jobs were moving due to direction were rebuilding and reconstruction america into the infrastructure act. here's the other thing, my guess is i'll get a question about wait a minute the american people aren't satisfied. as i told you all before most of this but we passed the night kicking it only kicks in overtime. the fact is for example you're in a situation where you're giving one example of using it but it's easiest is insulin. i decided we would be in a position where we were not going to continue to pay the highest drug prices in the world and that's what we do by the way. the same manufacture of a drug in the united states selling it here in japan and tokyo or selling in berlin or around the
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world. they pay a lot less than we pay at home so we set a simple proposition let's take a look at how much it cost to make the product i'm not can ask you to show hand like you do in a town meeting but if i asked calmly people know somebody is type 1 or type two diabetes and at least half the audiences raises their hand. they were paying somewhere between four and $700 a month for their insulin that they badly need to stay healthy. guess what it cost $10 to make to package the total amount you can argue $13. guess what now they can't charge more for medicare because medicare is taking american tax dollars and paying for the elderly healthcare needs, you can't charge more than $35 for the drug is saved $160 billion.
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$160 billion less will be paid out by the american taxpayer to help the elderly people on medicare with the problem. a lot of this is just kicking it were in a situation where next year for the drug costs no senior will have to pay total cost of all the drugs from expensive cancer drugs to whatever drugs are taking and will not have to pay more than $3500 a year. the following year we already pass this the following year they wanted to pay more than $2000 that saves $200 billion that were paying out but the other team won't countless even though it's a law they won't count as reducing the debt. there's a lot of disagreements that we've had in my guess i will be talking to the speaker of the house on the way back on
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the plane because it'll be morning time at home and i'll be on the plane in an hour in my guess is going to want to deal directly with me and making sure were all on the same page. it's probably more than you wanted to know. i'm a savior of nhk. >> good evening mr. president the chinese military is more active at this time in the taiwan strait with expectations this might increase leading up to taiwan's election next january. despite diplomatic communication recently between the u.s. and china, the military hotline is not working in the circumstance how will we manage the relationship with china and how
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will we strengthen the u.s. alliance with japan in order to come to china? thank you. >> number one, you are right. we should have an open hotline. at the bali conference when president xi jinping and i agreed on. in this silly carrying two freight cars of equipment was fined over the united states and it got shot down and everything changed in terms of talking to one another. a figure get to see that begin to thaw really shortly. in the meantime what's happened. i think it's fair to say for those of you who have dealt with japanese government and reported from here for a long time. the situation in terms of our relationship of japan have never ever in american history been stronger, never, never.
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we started the relationship but i came to see some of you with my first trip and i came to see president kishida's predecessor. and in europe the world is getting smaller and will happen in the invasion of ukraine, it affects everyone including people in the pacific basin. we ended up we have japan stepping up and away as a real consequence of your defense budget number one and beginning to approach with south korea. i spoke at length with president luna south korea pretty came to washington as of late. he agreed were all the same agreement that we are maintaining and we all agree we're going to maintain the one china policy which says everybody kind of forgets. neither country, japan, china,
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taiwan can independently declare what they're going to do, there has to be a mutual agreement can. were sticking by that, we are not going to tell china, we made it clear that we don't expect taiwan to independently declare independence either but in the meantime we're going to put taiwan in a position they can defend themselves fix clear understanding of china were to act unilaterally there would be a response. there would be a response. , i don't think it's anything inevitable up about the notion of a conflict of the united states and the west and/or japan or korea in the quad. if you take a look at what's happening. were more secure and we talk
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about china building the military. it is building the military. that's why i made it clear i am not going to prepare, i'm not prepared to trade certain items with china and when i was asked by president xi jinping with nuclear weapons and other weapons of mass distraction i'm not going to do it. now we have commitment from all of our allies to provide that material that allows them to do that but that's not a hostile act that's enacted says we can make sure that we can do everything we can to maintain the status quo. what's going on now look at the media we had today and yesterday and the quad. i bet you many people in this audience another audience to use after the election i would commit to india, australia, japan and the united states to
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form and over and is asian to maintain stability in the indian ocean in the south china sea. when asked higher prime minister for president xi jinping while redoing is simple. women international organization agreed upon what constitutes open air space and see space, where that agenda cannot allow that to be unilaterally alternated. burnett to change any rules were just making sure we unite democracies and conviction that the pacific basin remains what it was before open and clear. i guess what i'm saying, what i'm trying to say were more united than we've ever been in the pacific in terms of maintaining stability and maintaining a sense of security. i'm not sure that answers your
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question but i hope it does and you want to follow-up with any portion of the question. >> if you want to follow-up bloomberg tv and radio. >> thank you, mr. president. you decide i'm willing to cut spending. speaker mccarthy says u.s. government needs to spend next lecture than they did this year. will you agree to that? and china your team has been trying to secure meetings with the chinese counterparts, would you consider easing sanctions to improve relations like the sanctions that are currently on china's defense ministry. >> yes and no. i'm not going to use anxious but i think we should -- the front end of your question there is a lot that is going on relative to spending. we've agreed to cut spending and
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working to continue to cut spending. what base do you start from, initially when the republicans introduced, when the speaker -- 405 vote majority was able to pass what he calls extending the debt with the limitation how to spend it on the budget side. i will negotiated on the budget. they came along and said initially it's hard to determine where they are quite frankly and you may know more firm questions than i do. they came along and said we're going to move off of the 2023 budget. and that's a baseline for the next two years. that budget and what about what you voted on after the budget which was the add-on money that you all agree to in the house
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and senate. they said that include that as well. i said okay maybe we could work on something so we started calculating what that would mean and it came to 22% cut for everything in the budget but the things that have already been passed, that i early passed in terms of infrastructure and affordable care act and et cetera. in the meantime will happen that seems to be changing and we said were going to exempt remember we said you going to cut veterans the best discretionary, i said were not to cut veterans. that's good. and we initially started off the recut medicare medicaid and i said no, not medicaid, social security and medicare and i said no first-time ever had a negotiation at the state of the union message. they said were not to cut that
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and i said okay that's off the reader, what else is off the radar and they named other things and i said that means if you want to get the number you want to freeze the budget at 2023 plus the additions that you added an logo from 22% and end up cutting 30% or 35% discretionary budget. for example if you calculated what they're talking about they're going to lose 100,000 and assistance. they can lose a thousand police officers across-the-board. just calculate what it means if you take all the discretionary spending and you make no distinctions other than the percentage number of the cut. some makes no sense at all. what we've done going to have to sit down and i'm hoping speaker mccarthy is waiting to negotiate with me when i get home i don't know whether that's true or not will find out but at first we
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were making any progress and we made a lot of progress although sunday came back with a proposal that it was very cut back from where they agreed or discussed and now we give a counterproposal to the counter again. it sounds ridiculous but that's what we did and i'm waiting to hear the response to what we offer. we are willing to cut spending as well as raise revenue so people start paying their fair share. raise your hand if anybody's tax structure is remotely fair. what do you think? anyway. that is the context. [inaudible] >> that's under negotiation right now i thought you said when i lift sanctions on
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material would i sell the defense department meaning when i sell some, the answer is that is under discussion. the new york times. >> mr. president, thank you. you speak a lot of the summits of the power of democracy to solve big problems but i'm curious with world leaders how are you explaining the possibility american democracy could cause a global financial crisis is the debt limit is breached next month and are you altering them insurance of the 14th amendment or anything else she will take whatever steps you need to make sure that does not happen. >> first of all it would be a very serious circumstance if we didn't repair debt in the first time in 32 years. that will be the first problem. so far little discussion and
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they all know what's going on about whether or not were able to fall on our debt. number two, number three i can't guarantee that they would enforce a default by doing something outrageous, i can't guarantee that. number four looking at the 14th amendment of whether or not we have the authority, i think we have the authority. the question could be done and invoked in time that it would not be appealed as a consequence and pass the question and still the full on the debt. that's a question i think is unresolved. i'm hoping and i believe that when we stood and then sat the room with all the leaders from mitch mcconnell and they said we will not default. we will not default that's
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including kevin mccarthy said we will not default. i am assuming we mean what we say and will figure out a way to not default. >> elizabeth palmer cbs news. >> good afternoon mr. president. why has president zelenskyy told you about the big counteroffensive and maybe you can start by telling us whether it's ac actually underway or no. i'd also like to ask about the f-16. you've greenlighted them now. jake sullivan said arms and equipment go to ukraine according to what he called the exigencies of the conflict. so what now exists that didn't exist the demands of planes. >> also you were the going to move in where the going to go.
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god love you even if i knew precisely you think you're better to tell you what they're going to do in terms of defensive. i hope you hope i wouldn't do that because that would mean it when it succeed. the fact is we did discuss privately, i did discuss with president zelenskyy. we and our native out enter nato allies know how many brigades they have trained and know the status of the brigades and have an expectation to their likelihood of succeeding are. we don't know that for certain, war is uncertain to state the obvious and it will proceed, i think i do know but i'm not going to tell you because i
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would not be a smart thing to do either. so having said that the expectation and hope that they will be successful and it'll make it clear to russia that the cost, for example it is a discussion of whether or not it's been lost or whatever and while the truth of the matter is the russians have suffered over a hundred thousand casualties in baku. enit is hard to make up. whether there are troops there's not many standing is a pretty devastated city. but they have been able to move in a direction that they have been able to lock down an awful lot of the russian forces including the fogger group. with regard to the f-16s. the f-16s were not of helped in that regard at all.
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it was unnecessary, let's take this for example. it would not have any additional added consequences. what is happened since the provision of everything from from significant missile-defense system tanks sophisticated tanks like all the things were of consequence in the near-term and the done bosque area and the fight was taking place. now all that and a little bit coming. what is going to happen as they continue to do well the going to be in a situation where the russians are standing off at a greater distance for maintaining the headquarters and other things which are out of range of the existing capacity to hot. they have to be able to be a position where the fighter jets
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and f-16s make a big difference in terms of dealing with what is coming down the road and god willing. we don't notice if they are successful in their ends up being an accommodation where there is not to cease fire but there is a peace agreement that gets worked out that they will have the capacity to have confidence in in their ability to resist, response by the russians if they were to change their position. that is the essence of the difference. was there another part of the question? [inaudible question] >> no, i don't expect the f-16s to take part. let's assume it is not. let's assume tomorrow the offensive was starting or in a week or two or five or seven. it's highly unlikely it would take place in the context but it
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will take place in the context of their successful in the near-term they will then continue to fight with the russians who have headquarters beyond where they are now not able to reach by the existing capacity that exists in their arsenal, it is a different need just like the tanks were needed in the beginning but there needed now. that is the nature of the change. [inaudible] >> what you have providing f-16s will escalate this war. >> of a flat assurance from president zelenskyy that they will not, they will not use it to go on and move into russia geographic territory. wherever russian troops are in ukraine in the area they would be able to do that. thank you all very, very much. we appreciate it.
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[inaudible question] >> it is for them. [inaudible question] i've done my part you think -- >> i know you won't you be saying biden did a wonderful job. i know you. [inaudible question] >> on the merit based on what i offered i would be blameless. on the politics, no one would be blameless. by the way that's one of the things summer contemplating. i had, i get a be careful here. i think there are some maga republicans in the house who know the damage it would do to the economy. because i am president and president is responsible for everything. biden would take the blame and
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that's one way to make sure biden is not reelected. thank you. >> thank you everybody. >> that was a 40 minute press conference of joe biden in hiroshima japan. >> could succeed in two weeks or three weeks that is the issue. it's up to lawmakers. but my hope and intention we will resolve this problem and i find a rationale to take it to the court to see whether or not the 14th amendment is in fact something we would be able to stop it. >> the press conference has concluded. thank you, everyone. >> the press conference has concluded, 40 minutes in japan at the g7. joe biden talk about the g7 given with china and allies. certainly the war in ukraine and he covered extensively and you heard with their own peter doocy
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in exchange about the debt limit and the one moment i got partisan political saying would you be blameless if ultimately falls through and he said maybe the maga republicans want back. he did note he's willing to make spending cuts which is different than the original stance that he took. good morning you are 35 minutes into the show. >> welcome to "fox & friends". the other note at the end of the speech that should be highlighted he said he will look at the 14th amendment. he will talk to the courts whether or not that would survive a test. as to not whether he could evoke the 14 the moment to extended the short-term. rachel: what stood out were in the middle of the debt ceiling crisis if are coming up against an incredible deadline really because our country has overspent. in the same time is answering questions about this there is breaking news where he approved 375 million more dollars for
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ukraine. interesting to see those two things up against each other what the priorities are of this country. edward lawrence by the way is traveling with the president in japan and he joins us live. good morning. >> good morning, to your point on that we talked about the spending this is where the differences we are hearing the presidency he's willing to cut spending but also hearing house speaker kevin mccarthy seen the president is not willing to reduce the amount spending below the budget of cutting the budget and the amount of money spending. the president wants to reduce reduce the growth and kevin mccarthy wants to reduce spending and that's part of the disagreement. at the g7 there is two issues that dominated this. the debt ceiling was one and president joe biden say no speak with kevin mccarthy when he gets on air force one on his way back
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it is morning in washington, d.c. that's going to happen within the next two or three hours as the president gets on their president joe biden working on the debt ceiling says the teams are back together and the house speaker says is going to wait for the president it to get back to washington, d.c. to start the negotiation process. the president was asked earlier today what his message would be to the house speaker. he said he was going to tell the house speaker before he told the press on this and the president says any deal needs to be bipartisan. listen to him a few minutes ago. >> i've done my part and put forward a proposal to cut spending by more than a trillion dollars. now it's time for the other side to move their extreme positions because much of what they already proposed is simply quite frankly unacceptable. >> the overriding story is obviously ukrainian president bilotta ms. zelenskyy meeting with president joe biden.
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there meeting one-on-one pre-here's what the president had to say about ukraine minutes ago. >> the g7 reaffirmed our shared and unwavering. our shared and unwavering commitment to stand with the brave people of ukraine as they defend themselves russia's brutal war of aggression and war crimes being committed. russia started the war in russia could ended today. >> president joe biden announcing a $375 million security package for ukraine that includes bradley fighting vehicles, ammunition, artillery but no f-16s and here's why. >> the president was indicating for the purpose of this counteroffensive the f-16 capability with everything else i said was not at the top of the list. now that we have delivered everything we said we were going to deliver so we put ukrainians in a position to make progress on the battlefield through the counteroffensive. we reached a moment where it's time to look down the road.
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>> president also saying he's going to train ukrainian pilots on advanced fighter jets including the f-16 but the training could take more than a year, back to you guys. rachel: the clear winner at the g7 summit ukraine not part of the g7 but zelenskyy coming and hat in hand $375 million to the guaranteed of the f-16 fighter jets as well provided he does not fly them into russia. a good day for zelenskyy. pete: also a bad day for strategic city in eastern ukraine that was retaken by russian troops in the wagon group. the war very much contested which means they will come hat in hand for additional assistance. later on will break down how much money in the billions hundred the billions liberty provided to ukraine. rachel: i wouldn't note zelenskyy just said as long as
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russians remain on our land no one will sit down at the negotiating table with russia. there were other attempts at peace negotiations, turkey, israel attempted, china said. it's very clear that the money is contingent on not negotiating in my view. pete: the other thing i found interesting with f-16s joe biden was asked with this escalate the war in his response is a promise from zelenskyy they will not be used in russian territory and the whole dance with the deliverance of the f-16s received as a provocation, you cannot guarantee what will actually escalate a war. peter doocy in the press conference asked one of the final questions. "good morning america", good evening in japan, did you get the answer you are looking for. you asked him who will take
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blame if there is a failure on the talks over the debt ceiling. >> recently things ' house republicans about a possible default is political in a move to try to prevent president biden from getting reelected so i think i did get the answer that i wanted and essentially what the president did here, is pretty extraordinary when you're overseas you but the overseas stuff that they want to talk about pretty came out with a prepared statement about the extreme positions that he said republicans have and he said and this is what i put to him. he said i've done my part he's making it sound like there the possibility of default in a public. when he describes a private conversations with mcconnell and chuck schumer he says they all went around and agreed there
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will not be a default. whether this is posturing we don't know but we did get the answer we were looking for. thank you, president biden for calling on us, now we can go home. will: you covered the entire g7, anything stick out or surprise you about what went down or what was prioritized. >> something else he just said and as i look at my notes somebody asked him about china and whether or not he's concerned about a lack of communication with the chinese military sensor military hotline is down and he talked about the silly balloon with spy equi equipment. you remember in february nobody was talking about that especially the white house something that was silly into something that happened that the chinese did that has severed ties and communication at the
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leader level and beneath that between the two countries, to describe as a silly balloon is minimizing what happened it away that we have not heard before. also surprising because half of what they were talking about the g7 in hiroshima how to counter china and now the spy craft is a silly balloon. surprising. rachel: is not just surprising it is kind of frightening. a lot of the experts said let's stop calling a balloon. it does sound like a party. we should call it a spy craft that's really what it was. thank you so much. >> thank you, talk to you later. will: marine veteran daniel penny breaks his silence on penny breaks his silence on jordi neely's death, the chilling description of the tragic incident coming up next
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to help a marine coming from his class, i interviewed his lawyer he is starting to be an architect, he's not there to do anything other than ride the train to go to the gym as i understand it. america is looking at this and say when he's mentally ill all over the country especially in big cities to harass, injure and worse who's going to be there to protect us. >> he was there to protect us, some take entry cases that take on a life of their own they become emblematic of a situation in the city marine veteran daniel penny is precisely that with what happened in the subway he subdued jordan neely and jordan neely died. were hearing for the first time from daniel penny himself and the cover of the new york times this morning. >> excuse me new york post. nothing about race because the left immediately jumped to the race of the perpetrator in the
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race of daniel penny and this is what he said to the new york post. he said this had nothing to do with race. i judge a person based on the character. i'm not a white supremacist. it's a little bit comical everybody who's ever met me can tell you i love all people i love all cultures and could tell by my pastor my travels and adventures around the world. i was planning a road trip through africa before this happened. we will finally hear from him. >> it's great to hear from them. the story in the new york post is interesting you get back on where he was raised and his parents were divorced and from the divorce he and his three sisters became really, really close. i think to me that stuck out because this is the guy who takes care of his sisters who is a marine and defend our country
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so he has a personality in the trait and is on the train. he sees somebody. he did not know this but jordan neely was arrested 42 times this is not somebody with a one-off episode. here he talks about the threat he felt on the train. because remember he has written written he goes to the gym and to go to class and he said this time is much different i tell you the threats, the menacing and the terror that they introduced to the train has been well documented. analogous can be controverted there are numerous witnesses from all different walks of life who have no motive to do anything than to recount what happened. i'm deeply saddened by the loss of life. his tragic will happen to him. hopefully we could change the system that so desperately
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failed us which is interesting we talk about the failures of mental health care for jordan neely but the system failed the people trapped on the train with them and left to the young man to defend them. >> is interesting daniel penny to speak out and begin to give you insight of who he is. i wanted to hear from daniel penny for quite some time and understood why he chose not to speak out public. this is after the funeral earlier this week of jordan neely. it is interesting that he chose to share his story. i cannot wait i think it's paramount importance to hear from penny but the other people that rode the train that day that he references in the quote that they will be uniform and their testimony that they were terrified they were menaced on the subway.
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it'll be fascinating to hear from the other witnesses. >> when this first broke you keyed on on something front and center as a frequent writer of the subway. this was different. >> you are the one that said that. >> it's true if you're new to the subway everything might look like a threat but if you've written it a lot you realize when one instance is different and you hear a lot of confidence in what he had to do in the moment and i look forward to hearing and i'm sure we will from the fellow travelers what happened and how to escalate. >> is a great point when you live in new york city you see so much weird stuff and when you're not from new york city. i was talking the other day we stayed in the same hotel the other day. i won't say which hotel but i saw something in the lobby and everyone acted so normal because new yorkers are used to people
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having outburst. people walking across going to get a drink as somebody was freaking out and look like a drug episode and that's normal in new york city. it's interesting you were one of the first people to bring it up he's written the train a lot he's from queens and lives in queens. he seen a lot this time must've felt different - this is why am happy to hear from daniel penny and witnesses. everything that we've heard including our own commentary is often the prism of people who have seen a video. people have seen the secondhand, the narrative driven by grace has been driven by people who do not know what happened on the train. when we hear directly from the people that were involved we get actual testimony you don't have to go back to understand the limitation of watching the video. we see video and think were a passenger on the train as well. your passengers in a moment of time like when it comes to the
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