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>> all right, here are the results so far on our poll at hannity.com. 90%, you want to hear from every candidate regardless what they may be polling in 2024. look at that, -- what is it, 93 to 7, okay. so, we always listen to the audience. we will have the other candidates on. programming note before we go, tomorrow night we have another live audience show. tickets are absolutely positively free, go to hannity.com for all the details. and we look forward to having you in
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trump ignored big any necessary and used tariff. >> we are not looking to decouple from china. >> we like to see this relationship get on to a better footing. >> a growing china that plays by international rules is good for the united states and the world. >> laura: thank you, janet. now trump is opposed to open borders, both biden and gop establishment support. >> announced those sweeping measures that i mentioned moments ago from the state and dhhs to extend legal pathways, and judges and more. >> laura: she reads really well. trump is opposed to never ending wars and wants to reform our national security establishment. both biden and the gop establishment support it and both have a record of spending trillions and trillions on
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failed wars. >> we will support ukraine's defense for as long as it takes. >> supporting ukraine as long as it takes. >> for long it takes . that's how long we are going to be with you mr. president, for as long as it takes. >> laura: he was walking off the wrong side of the stage. trump has proven record of putting real conservatives on the bench. biden would put hard left luna particulars there and the gop establishment, let's face it, it has a record of appointing david suter and john roberts. so, that's four major issues, issues that should be critical in any election where trump right now has a clear policy advantage over both biden and the gop establishment. and that all leads to the following, on domestic policy, trump has a proven record of building an economy that generated higher real wages for american worker he. now neither the biden administration nor the old gop guard can say the same. and on
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social policy, trump led us to a huge victory to overturn roe versus wade, we know what the gop establishment failed to do, yeah, overturn roe versus wade, only 40 years. by the way, trump did all of this while facing impeachment and the fraudulent mueller investigation. so, simply attacking trump as a person or his style, that ain't going to work. if you want to win the gop nomination, you are going to have to convince the voters that you are going to do the right thing on china, on the borders, obviously the economy, on the military, and judges. i don't think that many people really believe that mike pence, tim scott, nikki haley, would really be able to stand up to the gop establishment on any of those issues. so, if you vote for them, you're effectively voting for mitch mcconnell, no one in the gop agrees with mish
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mcconnell. so, that leaves ron desantis who shows a willingness to think for himself and to take positions and push policy that don't match up with the gop establishment. he has taken on the ccp by barring their land purchases in his state, he stood up to the corporate wokesters, impressive base of support. tomorrow night when he announces it's time for him to make his positions crystal clear on the key issues where trump currently has a significant advantage. now check out this head to head poll. if he does the right thing on those issues, well, we could have a real horse race, could. if he thinks he can run as trump light i think he is going to be disappointed. next summer we'll skip a head a year. the gop base wants its nominee to make four big points at the convention, number one, we will stand up to china. number two, we will enforce our border. number 3, we
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will reform the national security state. and number 4, you bet, we are going to appoint socially conservative judges. also want a candidate who is going to campaign everywhere, remember our motto here on "the ingrahm angle," no state and no city left behind. and that means appeal to working people of all backgrounds, build a multi cultural majority. now for years trump has been their only option. remember what trump did to grow hispanic support and some african american support among black males. desantis changed the map of latinos in miami-dade county, huge turn around there. now we are going to see a peak and replicate that he was where. desantis is going to announce on twitter with elon musk i guess interviewing him. last november musk endorsed desantis now he says he is neutral and just wants someone who is "normal" as
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president, i don't know what that means be people run for president -- i guess, are they normal? i don't know. although musk is impressive as we have said in many many ways, he is obviously a genius in many ways. sales in china could be an issue that trump brings up. but for anyone running on the gop side, this has to be a campaign for america. not a campaign for the donors. again, trump's already proven his america first bon fide. desantis still has a lot of work to do, has a lot of people to convince, that's the way i see it. tonight, late may 2023, and that's the angle. joining me now molly hemmingway, editor and chief of the "federalist." and founder of america first legal. molly, it's
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going to be a big night for desantis, you are going to have one of the more controversial but also popular in many circles, elon musk there with him. although he says he is neutral in this race. what does he need to do tomorrow to kick this off in a grand fashion? >> so, we've been watching ron desantis run without actually running. and starting tomorrow we'll actually get to see what it's like when it's an official campaign. you made some really good points. the problem for anyone taking on trump, trump is wildly popular in the republican party particularly for what he did. so, probably wise for ron desantis to say -- i'm not sure if he needs to say this, convey he supports the trump agenda, he loves everything that that brought the country and that he is a more winning -- he could do a better job of winning, that might be the message he should convey tomorrow night. >> laura: the trump is already slamming desantis' planned
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announcement. adviser telling fox news, announcing on twitter is perfect for ron desantis, he doesn't have to interact with people and the media can't ask him any questions. stephen, is that a fair criticism of desantis? i mean, one thing i would say about him, he doesn't seem to be shying away answering questions from the media. i am not sure if that is the right way to criticize desantis. >> i think in a national campaign, laura, interacting with reporters in particularly in the smaller states with local reporters, at the town level is obviously a critical part of running for president. in particular, laura, go back to your monolog, what this race is going to center around is immigration policy, trade policy and foreign policy. the transformational under the leadership of president trump and in particular i think the foreign policy element is going to be at the center it of conversation moving forward with
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president trump being crystal clear about his desire for an immediate cease fire and critical settlement in ukraine and that issue i believe more than any other in the weeks to come is going to be the center of the dialogue and so i would hope, i would hope, that reporters in many settings have an opportunity to grill the candidates on that issue. >> laura: well, molly, you know, the polls right now, i don't think they mean a heck of a lot. i mean everyone is -- we throw them up and everyone goes crazy, oh, desantis is winning here, trump is winning there. but this is really up to them. i mean, politics is the art of persuasion. and voters want to vote for someone they believe can win, number one, and number 2 actually get stuff done. abraham according, usmca, border enforced, economic growth, optimism among invest i don't
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haves, we had all that in 2019 before the pandemic. >> everything seemed to change in terms of what republican voters now realize is possible to demand or expect from any republican president. i think that that is reflected in the fact that the polls, whatever, have a -- the vast majority of republican voters are with trump or desantis. the two america first candidates who do care about a realist foreign policy, care about an economic policy that benefits average americans more than the worse corporations on wall street. and so these two men are very different from what was being offered to americans during that 2000 to 2015 era. how much they are shaping the conversation. >> laura: stephen, the idea that a nickee haley or a tim scott, i mean they are both lovely people, but they are obviously more in line of the mitch mcconnell wing of the party.
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is there any pathway to victory for someone more connected with the old bush-era view of the world than the populist america first view of the world. >> all american politics can be divided into the era before trump and the trump era. the bushism, the preceded trump, the ryanism, the mcconnellism, that era of american politics is completely dead, buried and gone. but what president trump did to shift the conversation to being about the working class, the working people, their concerns, their dreams, their hopes, who don't want uncontrolled immigration, stupid wars, didn't want jobs being sent to china. the multiethnic position is going to dominate american discourse and american politics for a long long time. >> laura: now, molly, axios is reporting that some powerful gop
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donors who won't support trump but beginning to be concerned about desantis are pushing young kin to jump in the field, if enough donors are squirrelly about desantis, does that mean youngkin ultimately gets in perhaps? >> i do think that people should watch youngkin. it seems like something he has been interested in before, he might wait and see if there an is an opportunity later. people are talking about desantis not doing enough, he hadn't announced yet and polling fairly well. nobody wonders what is nikki haley or tim scott, are their campaigns doing better. more than anything i think the republican donor class needs to realize, the republican party has been changed, the republican voters have a huge say in who gets the nomination and whether that person will win the
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presidency and they are done with as stephen said, so eloquently, they are absolutely done with the failures of that push-era republican policy. they don't want to have weak people who cowtow to the media, and so the republican donor class needs to get up to speed more than anything. >> laura: i think as we've seen with biden, steve, stephen, wall street really elected him, their money, their influence and their power of the and they've gotten a lot from them. their earnings are down, stock prices generally are down. but they got the access to the chinese markets they wanted and maintain that. how big of an issue is china in your view in this 2024 race? >> well as i said earlier, foreign policy, i believe in ways people don't even realize now is going to dominate this race because people want a return to an era of both global
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peace and stability that we had only a few short years ago under president trump while at the same time standing up to china and projecting that strength to reshore american jobs. wall street got what they wanted from joe biden unfettered access to the chinese market. and what you are going to see is a complete and total refocusing of our national conversation as president trump has said decoupling from china so we are no longer intertwined with economy, pharmaceutical ind industry. >> laura: bring it home. >> made here in america. >> laura: we have to bring it all home. moll, e every poll says the economy, inflation, and the border those two issues are dominant. so, the economy -- if the economy is stupid, people left money in their pocket, less money to spend. trump and desantis have to convince people they are going to be
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richer. >> what we saw what it was like in trump era, we had wages growing, corporations could actually have a regulatory environment that made sense that would allow them to grow and these things will be important for whoever gets the nomination. >> laura: mollie and stephen. we have an update on that nut-bag male prone to violence professor. it involves a sharp object. we'll see the shocking video for yourself. first, what is really going on with this debt ceiling fight. jonathan turley is going to react to biden's secret plan to try to become constitutionalists.
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>> laura: the white house thought it was playing smart poker on the debt ceiling. >> on the merits based on what i have offered, i would be blameless and there is a lot of other -- for example, the idea in terms of taxes that they refuse to for example we -- i was able to balance the budget and pass everything from the global warming bill -- anyway. >> laura: okay. but they made a big mistake. mccarthy out
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maneuvered them by getting republicans to stick together and pass an increase in the debt ceiling that was tied to popular cuts and spending and a fairly modest work requirement for welfare recipients. >> set down with the president and said, let's work together. these are areas that -- without raising taxes, we are bringing in more money. >> willing to get up? i passed a bill that raises the debt ceiling, i am never going to give up on the american people. >> laura: so rather than this looking like a bunch of renegade right wingers, it looks like it's the white house that's being unreasonable and out of touch if indeed they refuse to make the pragmatic decision to compromise. what biden was saying over and over again. clean debt limit bills echoed over and over again. politically
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right now there are no good options for biden. if he stays on the path that he is on, meaning he doesn't budge, the market, the stock market will continue to fall. if he agrees to some spending cuts he incurs the wrath of the far left. biden's trapped between his donors who don't want the market to collapse and the squad types who are fine with borrowing and taxing as much as possible, they don't care. so, biden has said he is only going to agree to tax cuts if he gets tax increases, everything broke down after that. every hour of every day until early june, speaker mccarthy and house republicans should be very clear and say publicly, hey, we came together in late april, way before the deadline and we passed a sensible bill to raise the debt ceiling but the senate won't take it up. we urged the senate to bring it to the floor. it may have 51 votes and that would of
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course put tester, manchin and kirsten sinema in a big box. he thought he could punt and keep blame on the republicans, that's backfiring badly. one of the reasons the white house has declining leverage on the debt ceiling issue is because biden has a horrific economic record. wages, they haven't kept track with inflation. growth, that was disappointing last year. and it's on track to disappoint this year and the year after. and a new federal reserve survey reveals that the share of adults who reported being worse off financially than the year earlier climbed to 35%, the highest on record going back to 2014. and what's just as disturbing, 54% of adults said their budgets had been affected a lot by higher prices and black adults and parents living with children and those with disabilities were more likely to report such financial strain.
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not good. now meanwhile the squad, they're threatening to riots. >> if the president agrees to spending caps or if he agrees to put work requirements. >> it's going to be a big problem. >> backlash from our entire house democratic caucus, progressives, but also in the streets. >> laura: a backlash in the streets? that's not what cnn's new polling is showing. our brand new poll conducted by ssrs shows a majority of americans 6 and 10 americans want to raise the debt ceiling only if spending cuts are included as well. >> laura: that the segment cnn didn't want to do. i'm personally loving this, it's this burgeoning split between biden's wall street donors an the hard left. talk about an
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unholy alliance, it serves both of them right. both of them refused to work with the populous movement to have a sound financial system and at the same time help working class americans, they wouldn't do it. now that's where they are. so, now that the left sees the tide turning against them, they are coming up with insane clown posse theories. they think that the president has the authority under the 14th amendment to issue his own biden bonds. and then use the money raised by those bonds to pay the interest on the old bonds that are coming due. but even if this was constitutional, which our next guest i am sure will say it's not, who would buy the biden bonds? no guarantee that congress would ever appropriate the money to pay them off, they weren't congressionally authorized under our constitution. do you see how nuts this is. johnathan turley,
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george washington constitutional law professor and contributor. explain to us the best you can why the left thinks that they can issue bonds out of the white house put congressional approval. >> completely frivolous. the 14th amendment does not deal with raising the ceiling for debt. it was designed to make sure that the debt that was incurred in the civil war would be honored, in fact the first draft referred specifically to civil war debt. it's been read obviously to go beyond that. but there is both practical and constitutional problems with this argument. you know, the question about raising the ceiling on debt has nothing to do with what the 14 14th amendment is about. the congress is honoring its debt, it's really in fact raise the ceiling for the debt. but the white house has to negotiate on
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the budget, that guess to the very function of the legislative branch, it is the power of the purse, that's where the framers gave to congress as a critical part of the separation of powers. and it's really other worldly to see democratic leaders begging the president to effectively make them constitutional nonentities. by saying just circumvent us, take away the power of the purse and become a government on to yourself where you can order the payment of college tuition without a congressional vote then just actually produce the money yourself to pay for those types of things. now what's this -- >> it's really out of line. >> laura: i will get to what the court might do in a moment. what is this trillion dollars platinum coin theory also about, just a big elon musk coin with biden's face on it, that would be great. >> right, this is right out of
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the mr. burns school of economics. the idea is that congress gave the executive branch the ability to print coins of any denomination, that bill never envisioned this particular use. there is no question that this violates the intent of congress. and so it's really shocking to see people suggesting this. janet yellen herself called this a game mick, people like lawrence tribe and others, you could probably get away with it no one would have standing to challenge it. it was lawrence tribe cited by the president for the 14 14th amendment concept. you have to keep too in month, tribe was cited by the president for the unconstitutional moratorium on evictions even after the supreme court indicated clearly stated that it was unconstitutional. he was cited
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and for biden asking the cdc. >> laura: covid mandates but some of those got ran into legal trouble. now back to the court. let's say they actually are desperate, he is between a rock and a hard place, this is challenged in court, would the court consider this a political question, jonathan? and not want to get involved, it is a constitutional determination that has to be made in this case, does it not? >> it does, i don't see how the court could treat this as a political question. the interpretation of the 14 14th amendment doesn't allow a president to unilaterally increase the debt of the government if they just turn a blind eye to that it will effectively gut the authority of the legislative branch in our tri partide system of government. >> laura: i see john roberts think the court's responsible
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for the country going into technical default. i could see them worrying about that as well. do you see that as a possible? >> not really because the biden administration has the ability to pay the interest on the debt. it doesn't have to default. and so the key to this entire matter is to make sure we pay that interest, that's what is the focus, they can do that. more importantly all they have to do is reach a compromise with congress, approved raising that ceiling. >> laura: professor turley, thank you for my esl credit i am getting. i am getting extra credit for my bar renewal. thank you very much. all right. tonight introducing a new segment thanks to the biden administration, open borders, deadly consequences. two shocking stories next.
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>> laura: we are starting on the angle, open borders, deadly consequences. this happened last week in maryland not too far from where we are broadcasting. >> originally from el salvador is accused of raping a woman this week, six days after raping a teenage girl. back on may 10th hernandez approached the teenage victim and her boyfriend at northwest graunch string valley park, threatening both of them with a large knife and sexually assaulting her. hernandez was here in the u.s. illegally. >> laura: and then there is the tragic case of kayla hamilton. her heartbroken mother addressed congress today. >> my 20-year-old kayla hamilton was murdered in her own room and left on the floor like trash. kayla's murdererrer was amended by border patrol crossing illegal in the u.s. known gang
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member affiliate weekend ms-13, he laughed and smirked. >> laura: joining me now is kayla's mother. my heartbreaks for you as a mom, and your story should be heard by everyone who thinks you oh, we have to keep the badder open, people need a better life. if we had stronger border policies do you think you would be here talking to me now about this horrible tragedy in your family? >> no. i would not. >> laura: your daughter -- >> i would not be on -- sorry. no, i would not be on this journey, you know, i would not be on this journey that i'm on. if it was secured. >> laura: what do you want everyone in the country to know tonight about your daughter and about your righteous anger
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toward our government that is refusing to shut this border down from these fraudulent asylum seekers and other criminals that are actually coming across? >> all they had to do was make one phone call. if they would have made one phone call to el salvador, they would have known he was a gang member. local police found out he was a known gang member, why couldn't they have made that one call and it would have saved my daughter's life. >> laura: right now in the united states there is a huge debate about whether we should be welcoming to more refugees into the united states and the problem is, you know, in many cases not in this case, many cases it's impossible to vet these people, they don't have papers, they say they're from one country, you can't tell where they are from, they ditch their papers at the border.
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given that, shouldn't the border until we find out where the people are that tame across and got away, shouldn't the border shut down, given that your daughter and so many others have been brutalized? >> i believe that they should have not just checked in the united states to see if he had any crimes here. they should have checked, you know, where he came from to see if he had a criminal background. of course, he, you know, he didn't have a criminal background here because he hadn't been here, you know. >> laura: yeah, the problem is i think the databases in a lot of these countries they are not great. and so it's catches catch can, you didn't get the information. tell me about your daughter, please. >> kayla was a very happy and
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easy going child. she loves life. she loved going to church. she was -- she loved being herself and she taught the world that it was okay to be yourself and not follow everyone else. she was hard worker. she had two jobs. she was actually got off the night shift that morning before she, you know, and then after that she was brutally murdered. in her own home when she was asleep from being home from the night shift and just left on the floor like trash. >> laura: tammy, no one in the united states should have to go through this, no one. i mean, this is disgusting and it's reprehensible and i know everyone in our audience cries for you, weeps for you, and prays for you and your family.
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and i am so sorry this happened to you. i wish i could do something to take away your pain, it's absolutely hideous and we thank you for telling your story tonight and we are going to stay on this, don't you worry. >> thank you. and i'm also going to do everything i can to get her story out and to have everyone be aware what happened, it's a safety issue for everyone that's living here. >> laura: it's going to get a lot worse unfortunately because of what happened think border, tammy, thank you. chicago where police are being completely overwhelmed there, not just by the violence but illegals taking over. police precincts are make-shift shelters. with more than 200 murders in the city so far this year, it's not really something those officers need to be putting their efforts into. joining me is john, chicago police union president, john, is
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this situation there as bad as it looks? or is the media making more of it than they should? >> it's worse. but i would like to go back to kayla's mom and express our condolences, that's a terrible story of the the sad irony, laura, we talk all the time about one police misconduct murder like george floyd is too many. the left never talks about these poor tragedies. a hundred is never enough to do anything. >> laura: we've had countless americans, raped, brutalized, murdered, killed, 100 died of fentanyl, came across the border from mexico. now apparently the police that have already been under strain in chicago, you dealt with 400 youth overtaking that armed forces event over the weekend, now your precinct is overrun. i mean, how do you operate in this? how do the police operate here? >> they don't. the reality is we
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have 22 district police stations and combined 900 migrants living in them full time. at nighttime there is no space to walk in and do a report. there is literally not a square inch of open space. >> laura: well, how are people having hygiene or showers? i mean, how is this happening in the united states of america, we have people living on the street, spend time in chicago, new york, washington d.c. where we are, la, san francisco, we have enough problem with homelessness and more problems apparently. >> you know, the craziness they actually forced the homeless people born here out on the sidewalk to make room for the migrants. we've had issues between chickenpox, measle is, lice, bedbugs, you name it. officers who contracted diseases because of their contact with the migrants. shingles because of the chickenpox virus. and the city just doesn't seem to care,
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the new plan is to now house them in a college dormitory that's going to be vacant for the summer. >> laura: lovely. >> you are going to to empty out the police station, empty out a college, encourage governor abbott to send more here because there is more room. why should texas bear the burden of all of this. stop the hemorrhaging, close the border and then fix the problems. >> laura: well, john, we stand with the chicago police, they are dealing with incredibly difficult situations. but for this and now this. >> i bet they get it figured out before the democratic convention. >> laura: oh, good point. if you thought bud light was in trouble, wait until you find out what target is up to and they are freaking out, that's next.
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>> laura: all right. if you are into target lately, you are missing out getting a mug to declare your gender fluidity or a new bathing suit with a binding effect or tuck trend plea construction. insider told fox there were emergencies calls to tamp down the pride sections immediately in the store. north dakota ryan. i have seen this stuff creeping in to these
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department stores for awhile now. i mean, i don't know why it's becoming such a big deal now, i've seen this happening for years. is this reaching a critical mass where these companies might slowly start stepping away from this? >> i hope so. but let's not forget that last week target ceo said trans talk products and binding products that are targeting children are good for society and good for business. it feels to me even though target is trying to say they are removing products, they are only removing products, satan loves your pronouns and saying some of these other things, it feel is like they are committed to the evil of targeting under aged children with transgenderism. corporations only know one lang. >> laura: yeah, money. >> has to be financial, has to
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be boycotts, i would argue conservative groups should be targeting and encouraging a boycott, it has to go to the next level. it's time for various legislators to target these corporations that are sexualizing and grooming children under aged children and targeting them with this transgenderism because it has to be more than financial pain i think it has to become an extensional pain for corporations to knock it off. >> laura: i think you are right. it has to hurt, otherwise it will continue and get worse and worse. speaking of worse, on the target website there are a number of books on sale, our producers found tonight, they are suggested for children as young as 4. there is one book called "i am a not a girl" a, if you are a drag queen and you know it. the hips on the drag queen go swish swish swish. isn't that lovely? ned, this is
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-- this is where it is. >> yeah, this is exactly. corporations are very intentional with their marketing of transgenderism in that ideology to under aged children. and like i said, the legislation tour at some point our elected representatives have to step in and say we are going to take this to the next level, any corporation that is doing this, they will feel above and beyond the financial pain. i don't know exactly what that looks like, laura. a fine for every store, every instance in that state that continues down this path of targeting under aged children, these corporations to stop targeting under aged children, sexualizing them and grooming them. >> laura: i can't tell you how many moms text me today, we're done. we're done with target, not going anymore. everything is from china anyway in target. i am telling you the wrath of the moms is coming forward. ned, thank you. and next an update on
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>> educating -- this is propaganda. what are you going to do anti-trans next? >> i mean,. >> this is -- this is violent. you're triggering my students. you get this out of here. >> professor caught on camera again, this time threaten ago new york post reporter. >> let's get out of here. you can't do that. >> the new york post which shares common ownership of this network, she cased them done the street while screaming and kicking one in the shins. we've reached out to the prof, hunter college said they are relieving
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of her duties immediately. but my question is, why didn't they remove her after she insulted and, you know, cleared the table of the pro-life material. is that allowed? imagine if the shoe were on the ott foot, it was a trans table, she would have been fired instantly. >> greg: happy -- happy -- yeah. happy trans tuesday everyone. yeah, we were going to serve tacos. but then they turned into hot do

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