>> john: all new at 2:00, karine jean-pierre will give the white house update on the debt ceiling talks. house speaker mccarthy sticking to his guns saying democrats don't want to address their spending addiction as the u.s. moves toward default. >> you have to spend less than you spent last year. that's not that difficult to do. but in washington somehow, that is a problem. >> sandra: we have crews on capitol hill tracking mccarthy and his team of negotiators. we will bring you updates.

progressive democrats will get their chance to sound off at a news conference later this hour. the chair woman threatening repercussions far from washington if president biden gives in to gop demands for spending cuts. >> i think it would be a huge backlash from our entire house democratic, you know, caucus, progressives, but also in the streets. >> sandra: and the dow did take a hit over a lack of progress on those debt talks. here you have it, down for the entire session at the moment off 200 points as we head into the last couple hours of trading, we'll be watching it. welcome back. >> john: the dow goes down, the dow goes up. let's hope. >> sandra: i knew that was coming. >> john: "america reports" rolls into a second hour. john roberts in washington. a lot of heads, sandra. >> sandra: sandra smith in new york. >> john: larry kudlow with his take in a few minutes, but begin with the fox news alert.

>> my name is yolanda. [gunfire] >> stay down and get down. >> john: brand-new video into the newsroom from memphis where an interview in the city's crime crisis got interrupted by a drive-by shooting, that was incredible to see. jeff paul has the breaking details from memphis, and jeff, what are you -- you are not in memphis, but getting breaking details in memphis. what are we learning about all this? >> the local news station in memphis says it covers the city's crime problem on a near daily basis. in the middle of an interview, nearly became crime statistic themselves. >> my name is yolanda. [gunfire] >> get down, get down, just stay

down and get down. it's ok, thank you, lord jesus, just stay down and get down. they are coming back. you are ok, jay. thank you, lord, for the blood of jesus to cover us. thank you, father, for the blood of jesus. thank you, lord. all right. we should be all right. drive-by -- >> yep. >> black car. >> the round of shots were fired off just feet away from a playground and community center. around 11:00 a.m. when it happened. shooter was reportedly targeting a nearby apartment complex. thankfully, no one was hurt, but also of note, no one was arrested after officers arrived minutes later. the latest available statistics show gun related violent crime incidents in members have more than doubled compared to ten years ago. overall, violent crime risen

each year over five years, and money geek ranks memphis as the fifth most dangerous city based on the most recent fbi crime stats. >> john: jeff, thank you. sandra, god bless yolanda, she was so calm through the whole thing. >> sandra: that's my first response is how she was able to remain that calm and talk to her crew and keep them calm as well, get down, get down, and then launched into prayer, but also my other observation is broad daylight with a playground right behind her as she was reporting, john, when the shots broke out. just terrifying. >> john: i guess the apartment complex was very close to that school, but thank goodness at least nobody visible in this scene got hurt, don't know if anything happened anywhere else. goodness. >> sandra: indeed, and now this. >> you can be compassionate but you can't be foolish. >> we are inviting in like a magnet, come here, collect all your freebies, we are going to

give it to you, every sucker in here is going to pay for it. >> sandra: folks in chicago fired up about a proposal to move migrants into a local college. hundreds of people showed up at a meeting to sound off. sanctuary city reporting 10,000 new migrants have arrived there. the new mayor, brandon johnson, is hosting his first city council meeting, and garrett, i've been following this very closely. people showed up, fired up about what is happening there and they did not like what they were hearing from the government officials. how did it come to this? >> sandra, just in the last few minutes, several city council members blocked this proposal to spend more than $50 million to address the migrant crisis. it could still come up at a later date but as you mentioned, that proposal has rubbed a lot of folks here the wrong way since there is so many other things that that money could be spent on. more than 8,000 migrants have arrived in chicago since august.

hundreds more are arriving every day. and the city hasn't come up with any real plans to house them. so instead, this is what's happening. police stations across the city are overflowing with hundreds of migrants who are living and sleeping there in the lobbies. some of the stations are so crowded that folks who live in the community are having a hard time reaching the front desk to file crime reports. now the city wants to try to clear some of that space up by sending at least 400 migrants to live on a college campus on the city's northwest side while students are gone for the summer. but in a packed and heated community meeting last night, folks who live in the area had a lot to say about those plans. >> we are inviting in like a magnet everybody come here, collect all your freebies, we are going to give it to you, every sucker in here will pay for it. >> we have all struggled along the way and needed help, every one of us. it's time to pay it forward. >> the police department is

going to make frequent visits here. if they are making frequent visits here, they are not out there. >> there's plenty of resources to staff providing for the safety. so wright college is part of our community. >> the latest plan would be temporary and as of now, no plans what to do once students come back to campus in the fall. but this is an ongoing struggle for officials in this sanctuary city who are facing a lot of blow back from communities like on the city's south side where locals recently filed a lawsuit to block the city from housing migrants at an empty school, arguing that their community has been in crisis for years and the city should be using those resources to help its own residents first. sandra. >> sandra: just remarkable. we are going to follow this one closely. we will invite the 38th ward alderman who said he arranged the meeting to help inform his

constituents. john, he tried to tamp down fears and urged everyone in the room to be respectful, but one speaker who stepped forward and raised fears over what's going to happen when the migrants who are housed there at the wright college don't return at night. that particular person said they can just be roaming the neighborhood, this was a woman, she said we have seniors, children, disabled and vulnerable women. do all these people have background questions, reasonable question. one audience member shouted in response, conceal carry. people are rightly concerned about what is happening, john. >> john: and we have seen immigration surge problems in the past but nothing to this degree. don't forget that in all of this chicago is proud of its status as a sanctuary city. signs saying partnering with ice would go against the mission to make chicago the most immigrant friendly city in the country. and take away needed resources

and time from the chicago police department. we will no cower from intimidation and refuse to back down. critics say it's the city's own making. >> sandra: they said they welcomed it and come, and now they don't have the resources to deal with it. >> john: a big problem on their hands. fox news alert, new developments in the irs investigation into the twitter files journalist matt taibbi, he tweeted the irs opened a case on hims st christmas eve and he says the timing coincided with the twitter files report about the intelligence community's ties to tech platforms. journalist matt taibbi joins us now. i've been going through the letter that congressman jim jordan sent to the commissioner of irs which lays out the timeline here. i put it up briefly on the screen here.

so this was regarding the 2018 tax return. a letter the irs claims was sent to you on october 24, 2019, a second letter was sent to you on march 3rd of 2020. the irs produced neither of those letters to the judiciary committee. examination of your 2018 tax return on christmas eve, 2022, happened to be a saturday, assigned an agent for a face-to-face contact on january 27, 2023, contact initiated the day that you testified before congress. ultimate determination was you didn't owe any money to the irs, in fact, they owed you a substantial refund and the case was resolved a few days later on march 21 of 2023. how are you struck by all of this? >> well, initially i was reluctant to comment about this story because i thought it was possible this was an innocent mistake or a coincidence, but

now i don't think there is doubt this was somehow politically motivated, at least it has the appearance of that, and i think they need to answer some questions why they made this decision. >> sandra: you think that's going to happen? >> i don't know. i mean, they gave some information when representative jordan sent the first letter to the irs, so i think that's encouraging, but the fact that they let -- they didn't answer some crucial questions about the context and why the decision was made particularly on december, on the day that i dropped the major story, that's a little disappointing and does not leave a whole lot of optimism they are going to resolve this. >> i mentioned this on the screen, but curious they opened an investigation in to you on christmas eve of last year, which happened to be a saturday. how many folks at home think that they could ever get in touch with anybody from the irs on christmas eve, particularly on a saturday?

yet they are opening an investigation in to you. >> yeah, they are opening an investigation into me on a saturday, on christmas eve, on the same day that i just released a report about the ties between the fbi and other enforcement agencies and tech platforms, and it was a 3-year-old case and i didn't owe them any money. so all of those factors combine to make the optics of this really strange. you wonder what supervisor would be calling an agent on a saturday and asking him to come into work to open up a case on that day. >> sandra: to read off the washington times the way they put it, the irs really must have wanted to investigate you, matt taibbi. what's this doing to your life? >> i mean, this whole twitter files experience has been a roller coaster, eye opening. i think i was a little naive about how willing maybe some of these agencies were to try to

intimidate reporters. this is quite brazen what they are doing. i mean, they had to know that this was going to come out. also visiting me at my home on the day i'm testifying before congress, that shows you that they are probably not terribly worried about the optics of all this, which i think is even more concerning. >> john: this really does hearken back to the episode of a decade ago when lois learner, in the irs commission, acknowledged conservative groups were being examined with greater scrutiny by the irs than other groups were. now, you are not a conservative, we should stipulate that, but it seems as though, it looks on the surface, we can't say for sure, but looks on the surface like this was a similar tactic to that which we saw a decade ago, the irs said it was not going to do any more. >> right, and i think that's what's concerning, you know, there's been some evidence over

the years that there's increasing political pressure coming from presidents who are, the irs to open or engage in political investigations. that's happened under both republican and democratic administrations, but it is very concerning in the context and people should look at the context of the investigation, especially what we were looking at, the twitter files, and it's hard not to see it as some kind of retaliation or attempt to intimidate, maybe not me but future reporters who would look at this kind of material. >> sandra: what should the average american listen to what happened to you, matt, take away from this? >> well again, i'm a fairly high profile reporter who has a platform and has, you know, friends in places like the weaponization of government committee who might, you know, stand up for me and ask questions on my behalf. i think the ordinary person

doesn't have that, and that makes this all the more upsetting and all the more worrying, and is a reason why i think we have to try to get to the bottom of it if there's a possibility of doing that because you know, again, if this can happen to a high profile media person, why -- what's the ordinary person's protection. >> john: exactly, and it's so ironic, too, it's -- that they owed you money, you didn't owe them any money, and the fact they dispatched somebody to your house to contact you instead of maybe trying to send another letter or two. matt, always good to talk to you. thanks for joining us. >> thanks so much for having me on. >> sandra: thanks, matt. >> john: all right, now this. a group of parents vowing to take their fight against a school board all the way to the supreme court after a federal appeals courtsided against them, saying that an elite northern virginia high school admission practices are not discriminatory against asian-americans. the legal battle began back in

2020 when thomas jefferson high school changed its admission policy in an attempt to change the student body, setting aside seats for local students and getting rid of standardized testing. a group of parents say asian-american students have been disproportionately affected, a district judge agreed and said it was discriminatory, but the new ruling at the fourth circuit court of appeals struck down the decision. an appeal has been filed and parents are prepared to take this case all the way to the supreme court. let's bring in azra. interesting when you take a look at the politics and the political leanings of the judges when you go through it, the original ruling was judge claude hilton, reagan appointee, said

it was discriminatory against asian-americans. the two-judge, one was a clinton appointee and a biden appointee, and also a trump appointee. critics say democrats in the case who speak out against racism are engaging in a form of racism against asians. what do you say? >> this is the now racism of wokism in america today. we were in the trenches in the summer of 2020 when we were understanding the school board was putting a hit on asian students in the new era of racial reckoning. they started reading critical race theory, this is the bible for the new ideology of the woke industrial complex. and who did they bring, john, you are going to be a fairfax county public schools parent, right, they brought in a man,

and here, john, you can see what he -- one of his -- one of his preachings is the only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination. so john, that's how indeed a 12-0 democratic school board rammed this new policy in through the system in the fall of 2020 and we have the new racism of this nation against asian families. >> john: thomas jefferson high school, a stem high school, a magnet school, consistently ranks as the top public high school in all the country was always merit-based admission. what one judge wrote, reduced offers to asian students at t.j. by 26%, increasing every other racial group. no accident. the board intended to alter the racial composition of the aisle

in this way. t.j. had a long standing policy of merit enrollment, and predominantly asian students in the school, because they work hard and in an asian family, education is a whole family approach, why they do well. instead of raising the floor for other students to do better at school and compete for some of the slots, they lowered the ceiling and kept people out. >> matt, sorry, like matt taibbi just now, john, i've been a lifelong democrat. so i moved to virginia in 2008 when my son was in kindergarten because the state had voted for president obama. but what i have witnessed now is this entire democratic machine has decided that asians are the inconvenient minority for their narrative, and i brought also the yearbook for thomas jefferson high school from my son's graduating class. if you look at these images, this is diversity expressed.

you know, their names like rohahn and wishab, and india, china, eastern europe and john, we are diversity but the wrong kind of diversity, on the wrong signed of brown for the ideologues, and we chose america. my father came in the 1960s, john, it was education that brought us here. merit and equality. and we are going to fight, we are going to walk up the steps of the supreme court and we are going to win. >> john: you tweeted hello u.s. supreme court, good-bye racism, given the make-up of the supreme court do you expect they will overturn the fourth circuit? >> we will absolutely win. i sat at the harvard, unc chapel hill case to be revealed in the judgment pretty soon and i could feel the judges on our side on this point care. they care about the fact that

you know, john, that asian students are hiding their identities because when did we see this before, when jewish students were being targeted, right. and that's not the america we want and i'm confident, i am absolutely certain that we are going to win and not only winning for this school and for these students, but for america because this new racism is going everywhere, from the workplace to the schools. >> john: we'll be watching the case very close. good to spend time with you. >> thank you, john, we are going to win. >> sandra: president biden is expected to nominate air force general charles q. brown, jr. to be the next chairman of the joint chief of staff. he is currently chief of staff of the air force and would replace general mark milley. >> it's news we have been expecting, but now it's official. confirmed with u.s. officials

that tomorrow president biden is expected to nominate air force general c.q. brown to be the next chairman of the joint chiefs. currently as you mentioned chief of staff of the air force. unanimously confirmed in august 2020, becoming the first african american service chief in u.s. history. if confirmed, the second african american chairman of the joint chiefs of staff after the late colin powell. brown would replace general mark milley in october. he became chair in october 2019 and nominated by president trump. the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff is the highest ranking military officer and principal adviser to the president. he will need to be confirmed by the senate, and senator tommy tu

tubbervale has a hold on nominations, certain policies access to abortion in service members where it's not provided. he is an f-16 pilot by training, over 3,000 hours, and he was the commander of the pacific air components until july 2020 when he was nominated to be the air force chief. his leadership experience will come at a key time with tensions with china, he has a lot of experience in the region building alliances out in the pacific. brown was commissioned into the air force in 1984, he was a distinguished rotc graduate at texas tech university, born into a military family in 1962 in san antonio, texas, his grandfather in world war ii, and his father

served in vietnam. he and his wife have two sons. sandra. >> sandra: thank you, jennifer. the war on women's sports continues. our next guest is getting ready to head back to court against the state of connecticut, allowed biological boys to compete against her and other girls in high school track. selena joins us, along with her attorney. this is -- i mean, your story is one of many out there right now. what do you think girls should do when put in this position? what are you telling them having gone through this yourself? >> everybody who has encountered this issue needs to speak up and ask for fairness. i was one of the very first to start speaking on this issue, and it's taken a while but we are finally starting to get somewhere where there are states

starting to pass sports bills but we ultimately need to protect every single girl in this country so everybody out there needs to start speaking on this issue and ask for fairness to be restored to women sports. >> sandra: selena, did you have fear of speaking up and out against this? >> not really. i was raised if i had an issue with anything to speak out about it, be nice and polite about it, and i have absolutely no regrets by what i've done and if anything, it's been a benefit to me. >> christiana, what are you advising for girls and the case? >> girls deserve to play on an equal playing field, and there are clear violations of title ix. and we are delighted to represent selena and other women

across the country. >> sandra: this morning, a cyclist, because of something what you have experienced, she's desired to retire from her sport of cycling. listen. >> i had one of the best races in my life, i was on form, did all the training ride, but it was just not enough. it didn't matter that austin couldn't ride a lot of the sections that were pretty technical. he could run a lot faster than most women. it is never right to have to end your season that way, to end your season flanked on either side by two guys in the women's field. >> sandra: selena, i'm sure you are very familiar with those feelings, and heard it from riley gaines on this program and other places. how she felt like no matter how hard she tried, she just could not be a biological boy or man.

>> it's devastating that there are women out there who are retiring or changing their events because they are being forced to complete against biological males where those males, if they were competing in the men's category, they would be barely mediocre, but in the women, they are dominating the field and it's a very, extremely frustrating situation and it should not be happening. women's sports should be preserved as just women's sports. >> sandra: there are so many women and girls out there that are so grateful for people who are speaking up for how they believe, what they believe to be the right thing in this case, and you are one of them, selena. thank you for joining us. christiana, thank you for joining us. keep us posted and come back with updates on your case. thank you. >> thank you. >> john: sandra, continuing shortages are leaving patients unable to find a number of vital medications. it's causing alarm for doctors and pharmacies who need these drugs to treat a range of

illness, everything from infections to severe cancers. gillian turner is live in washington. she's been looking into this. do we know what's behind the shortages? >> we are getting an understanding for the first time, john, about 300 drugs that are in short supply across the u.s. right now, particularly acute we are learning is a shortage of chemotherapy drugs used to treat all the major cancers, like breast, prostate and lung cancers. oncologists say hospitals and patients are directly feeling the real world effects. listen. >> the drugs that are impacted, most profoundly by the shortage, are ovarian, uterine, cervix cancers, cancers of the bladder, esophagus, and it's important for people to be cured of these

particular cancers. >> gillian: many doctors say they have been relying and work arounds, alternative or second choice drugs. but oncologists don't have that luxury. >> the chemo regimens set up are precise and for a reason. you really don't want work arounds because it's an art, the art of treating cancer should not be jeopardized by shortages. >> gillian: a senate study finds the root cause is nearly 80% of manufacturing facilities that produce active pharmaceutical ingredients are located outside the u.s. and 90 to 95% of sterile drugs rely on key starting materials from china and india. >> if you want to get manufacturing back into the u.s., you want companies to have a healthy margin they can reinvest in the manufacturing facilities to make sure they are modern, you need to pay them to

do that. >> gillian: the administration has said the drug shortage is a national security issue now, they have a white house team now to dedicating efforts to look at it. but so far, meaningful solutions are in critical short supply, just like the drugs themselves. >> john: i remember a time we were told it was too dangerous to get drugs from anywhere than here in the u.s. of a. >> gillian: mighty old fashioned these days. >> john: i am old fashioned. thank you. threatening to subpoena randi weingarten in the investigation into covid school closures. she is refusing to hand over communications with the centers for disease control, but the union's lawyer is saying -- why do you want to get ahold of the communications, congressman? >> we want to know everything that took place when it came to the school closure decisions and

how they were made, and you know, if you go back as far as early in march, or later in march, we sent letters to 50 nongovernmental organizations that cdc had reached out to just for input. we did hear back from the american federation of teachers and randi weingarten sent a ten-page letter and documents, we sent another letter reiterating what we said in the first letter, we may want a transcribed interview and asking for that not only for her but four others in the teachers' union and they have been going back and forth on this, and they say we don't want to give you this or that, so we may have to go to a somebody, we have made the threat at this point. one of the things we found out in the system is that she had

cdc director walensky's personal phone number. we want to get those communications. what was actually said. is this political organization driving what we do in healthcare. we also found out that the weingarten team and the aft was communicating with the biden transition team. as early as the election they were having communications with them and so we want to see the communications between the biden transition team and the cdc coming from randi weingarten, but also with the executive office of the president to figure out what took place during this time. if we are going to do things better in the future, we have to make sure we did them right the first time. >> the way back machine and wind it back to what she appeared before your committee, you spoke about her conversations with the biden transition team. here is what she testified to you. >> so what essentially happened, sir, was that we were talking to

the biden transition team before he was sworn into office. and we -- >> did they reach out to you? >> yes, no, the biden transition team reached out to us. >> that include the next cdc director? >> not -- >> or anybody who went to work for cdc? >> you know something, i'm -- i don't want to speculate. >> john: that's what she told you recently. we have to jump to the white house, but quick button on that. if you could for us. >> bottom line, a nongovernment political organization directing what we do with our healthcare. >> john: congressman, sorry, we have to cut it short. karine jean-pierre is talking about the debt ceiling. >> they put forward an extreme package of devastating cuts that would slash supporting -- support for education, law enforcement, food assistance, the list goes on and on and on and on. by what now would be about 30%.

that is not at all what the american people want, that is not what they deserve, that is not what they are asking for. and the president has made clear, he's made this very clear that that is not happening on his watch. house republicans had said we need to make these cuts in the name of fiscal responsibility and deficit reduction. but that's not what this is about. that's never been what this is about for them. because even as they fight to cut investments in hard working families they want to turn around and protect tax breaks, skewed to the wealthy and corporations, and guess what. the just last week the non-partisan congressional budget office said those tax cuts would add $3.5 trillion to the debt over the next decade. and don't forget this, it was under president trump, the last

president, not president biden, that america's debt increased by 40%. again, by 40% under the last president. during president biden's first two years in office he cut the deficit by $1.7 trillion. now, folks, that's a record. and in march he released a plan that would reduce the deficit by another nearly $3 trillion over ten years. not by slashing programs hard working families can count on, but by cutting wasteful spending on special interest and by asking the wealthy and big corporations to begin paying their fair share, including closing loopholes. those are the contrasting vision that these negotiations started with. that's where we began with the negotiations. the now look, the president and the speaker have agreed they both have said this, they both have said they agreed that default is not an option, it is off the table. the speaker himself has publicly

acknowledged that for any agreement to pass the house, the senate and to reach the desk of the president, it's going to need support from democrats. that is the reality that we are in. the president's team will continue to negotiate in good faith to reach a reasonable, bipartisan, budget agreement, that's what the president and the speaker agreed to, and that's what they tasked their teams with reaching from this outset. and that's the only, the only way to move forward here on behalf, this is on behalf of american families, on behalf of the american people. so, if i've left you with any doubt about house republicans' priorities, in just a few hours, house republicans will vote on a resolution to block president biden's plan to provide up to $20,000 in student debt relief to borrowers who most of whom make less than $75,000 a year.

the president's plan is a good one. it's a popular one. and it will help prevent borrowers from default when loan payments restart this summer. the choice house republicans make today will send a clear message to their constituents. let's take a look. will marjorie taylor greene, $183,000 of her own business loans forgiven vote to deny debt relief to the 92,000 student borrowers she represents? will representative vern buchanan over $3.2 million of debt regiven, over 90,000 of his own constituents? to the more than 40 million eligible student borrowers eagerly waiting to learn about the fate of their debt relief, i

urge you to tune into today's vote which republican lawmakers shamelessly vote against debt relief for you. after having their own loans forgiven. and know this, president biden won't stand for it. he will not stand for it. and he will veto this bill. because let's be clear, this is not about cutting wasteful spending for republicans and it never has been, the same republican lawmakers objecting to student debt relief are refusing, refusing to cut billions of dollars in handouts to big oil, they even had their own loans forgiven as i laid out and saw on the chart to my left here. meanwhile, president biden has reduced the deficit $1.7 trillion and put forward a plan to cut wasteful spending and to end the deficit by another $3 trillion over the next decade. and finally, i want to say a few words about a somber occasion

that we are marking today here at the white house. one year ago the president was in his office on air force one returning from an official trip to asia when he saw breaking news of a school shooting in uvalde, texas. like millions of americans, he was horrified and heart broken. yet again, our nation had lost innocent young children and teachers in a deep -- in a deadly act of gun violence at school. when the president landed back at the white house that evening he was briefed in the oval office and addressed the nation from the roosevelt room. he grieved for the families in uvalde and called on congress to act. the following sunday, the president and the first lady traveled to uvalde to visit a memorial outside robb

elementary. attend a mass with grieving members of the community, and spend time with the families who lost loved ones in the attack. the shooting in uvalde had also come ten days after the devastating mass shooting in buffalo. and together these attacks became a catalyst for the passage of the bipartisan safer communities act in congress. since then, in addition to signing the most significant gun legislation in 30 years, the president has continued to implement dozens, two dozen executive actions to help reduce gun violence and keep weapons of war out of dangerous hands. but he has continued to say that it's not enough. it is not enough. and he's continued to call on congress to take action. this afternoon president biden and dr. biden, the first lady,

will mark one year since that tragic day in uvalde, which stole the lives of 19 children and two teachers and injured 17 others. the president will remember those lost with prayer, he'll pray for the survivors, the children, the first responders and community members, who will bear the trauma and scars from that day for the rest of their lives. and he will reiterate this call for republicans in congress to help stop the epidemic of gun violence that has become the number one killer of our kids in america. from universal background checks to requiring safe storage of guns to ending immunity from liability, for gun manufacturers to banning assault weapons and high capacity magazines, we need congress to enact common sense policies that americans support.

uvalde is a tragic reminder of the urgency to pass gun safety legislation. with that, darlene, please take it away. >> thank you, a couple questions on the debt limit. >> john: so just take a quick pause here from the white house and karine jean-pierre as we have got some more breaking news to report to you, sandra. >> sandra: john, fox news alert, just in, florida governor ron desantis has officially filed his declaration of candidacy for president that, is the campaign confirms this document we have just received is real so he has officially filed. he'll still formally kick that campaign off, we are told, tonight with that interview with elon musk. he'll be appearing on the fox news channel 8:00 eastern time as well. i'm sorry -- ok, back to the white house, she's talking debt ceiling, larry kudlow will react in a moment. >> more color, it's happening in the omb offices at eob, just on

the other side of west exec, and started around noon today and it's still continuing. >> can you say whether any contingencies are in place or being made for the president's travel in the event of a default? the white house had previously announced he's travelling to colorado on june 1st, which could be default day, to speak at a commencement for the u.s. air force academy. >> the plan is for the president on june 1st to go speak to the graduates at u.s. air force, happens to be in colorado, and so the president as commander in chief is looking forward to certainly giving that commencement. look, our job and our focus and what we are going to try to do and that's what the negotiators have been doing for the past several meetings is to certainly continue to work on this budget negotiations and to avoid default. the president has been very clear, congress needs to act, we need to avoid default, and so we

are going to work very hard to make sure that we don't get to that x date. >> and a quick one, has the president reached out to the governor with the typhoon approaching guam? >> i don't have any calls to read out. the president has been briefed on the typhoon and is continuing, we are going to continue to look at the impact that the typhoon will certainly have in guam. on monday night the president approved an emergency declaration for guam and ordered federal assistance to supplement territory and local response. federal agencies, including fema, coast guard, u.s. army corps of engineers and the national guard have been deployed and coordinating -- >> sandra: we will get back in as she continues to take questions as the looming deadline is out there for the

debt ceiling. larry kudlow has been listening. if only i had a camera on you while you were reacting to everything the white house is saying. >> explain to me, look, graves and mchenry went to the white house at 12 noon to continue the negotiations. they were up all last night negotiating, right. the mccarthy people and the white house people. and they are senior white house people. they are trying to get close. while they're in the white house right now, why is she out there attacking the republicans? what is the point of that? they are trying to do a deal, they are bumping up against a deadline, as you noted, and she's up there on her high horse attacking them and talking about student loans and this and that and the world's going to fal th far apart, there are issues. we can talk about the issues. but the spending relief which 70

to 80% of americans, according to the polls, want to accompany the debt ceiling increase, ok. that spending relief is being discussed and negotiated right now while she's up there attacking the republicans in the house. i do not understand this. >> sandra: from kevin mccarthy, when it comes to work requirements for welfare and that democrats have gone so far left. >> when we put work requirements in to get a job, senator biden for and president clinton signed into law. so it's not my fault that the democrats today have become so extreme, so far to the socialist wing they're now opposed to work requirements. >> he's right, absolutely right. biden voted for all this stuff years ago as a senator. but yeah, he's making the second

point that bernie sanders and aoc and the far left wing, they are the tail wagging the democratic dog, also true. everybody knows that. mccarthy met with biden alone for 90 minutes and as i said, up all night last night negotiating and the mccarthy people are in the white house negotiating. what is the point of the attack? mccarthy is not attacking, he said look, we put this on the table knowing the president is in favor of it. and the hassling right now is not primarily about work requirements. they are going through -- i know this boring and complicated nerdy stuff, which baseline to use, going through which cap was it 1%, 2%, two years or ten years, and will 24, fiscal 24 spending on discretionary be lower than fiscal 23. those are the things they are

discussing. i apologize, i know it's in the weeds. they are not discussing all the far flung stuff. the republicans are no longer pressing, i wish they would, but no longer pressing to stop the cancellation of the student debt. it's a pity. >> sandra: you have mccarthy on your program tonight. are you going to press him on that? >> i will ask him about it, sure. i hope he just gives us an update. it's not out of the question they could come back from the white house with a deal. it's not out of the -- or a deal in principle or 80% of a deal. i don't know, ok. it's also not out of the question that they can't. i get that. you have a good faith negotiation going. it wasn't at the beginning, he's right about the 97 days, blah blah blah, but that's all in the past. so the white house press secretary is bashing the republicans over stuff they are not even talking about, the student debt, and secondly, they are in the building negotiating.

>> sandra: point taken. this is mccarthy spelling it out, why he's doing this. this is call for 2. >> we owe more on our debt than our whole economy is worth. 20% more. so should you just raise the debt limit or should you literally think let's eliminate some waste. if we had spent money, billions of dollars for a pandemic that the money has sat there for two years, pull it back. >> by the way, you know, on that point, in the beginning, biden refused to negotiate a debt debt ceiling with budget reform, ok. that has changed. that has changed. that's what kevin mccarthy is trying to say. >> sandra: we'll see kevin mccarthy on your program, larry kudlow, we have some breaking news. thank you very much on that. john. >> john: breaking news and some sad news to report to you, at the age of 83, pop icon and soul icon tina turner has passed

away. that's according to her spokesperson who says the queen of rock and roll and soul died peacefully at her home in zurich, she launched one of the biggest comebacks in history as a solo artist, and the age of 44 became the oldest person to hit the top 100 with her song "what's love got to do with it." martha takes a look back at the life of tina turner. listen here. ♪ what's love got to do, got to do with it ♪ >> martha: the leggy girl with the raspy voice, born anna may bullock in nutbush, tennessee, 1939. at 11, her parents divorced and moved in with her grandmother. when she was 16, anna may was hitting the local r and b night

clubs. she met ike turner in 1956 at the club manhattan, he was there performing with the kings of rhythm. anna may begged ike to let her sing. eventually, she joined him on stage. anna may was a hit. when ike had a falling out with a band vocalist a few months later, he asked anna may to step into the recording booth. the result, 1960 hit "fool in love" which hit number 2 on the r and b charts. ♪ i should be ashamed ♪ >> it also marked the transformation from anna may bullock to tina turner, a songwriter came up with without consulting anna may. "mountain high" did not get much attention in the u.s., but charted in the u.k., and now considered a classic.

the single was produced by phil spector, who called her singing hurricane alto. by 1969, ike and tina had albums and 16 singles to their credit. 1971, rendition of "proud mary." ♪ proud mary keep on burning ♪ >> the single topped the charts, earning them a grammy and pushing them to super stardom. from movies to mega stages all over the world, performing was always easy for turner, but life was not. she later told reporters that ike beat her, saying i didn't fear him killing me when i left because i was already dead. after ike beat her badly in 1976, she took off, with $0.36 in her pocket, a friend bought her a plane ticket, flew to los angeles and never looked back. when tina divorced ike in 1978, asked for only one thing in the settlement, her name, tina

turner. after years of struggling to make a come back, hit it back in 1984, "private dancer." "what's love got to do with it" and "better be good to me" won grammy awards. the album sold 11 million copies and 45 years old, reestablished her title as the queen of rock and roll. she joined mel gibson in "mad max beyond thunder dome," a role created with turner in mind. also that year, she and jagger brought down the house at the live aid fundraiser. 1986, she wrote her autobiography, "i tina," and made into the film "what's love got to do it with it." the actors earned oscar nominations. in 1991, inducted into the rock

& roll hall of fame. after the 2000 tour, announced her retirement. and then after eight years of retirement, she went back on tour showing the world she still had that voice and those legs. named one of the greatest of all time. millions of fans would agree. ♪ better than all the rest ♪ >> tina turner's life was one of heartache and hope. no matter what life threw at her, she always came back singing. >> john: what a shame and what a force in music she was. tina turner passed away at the age of 83. last time i saw tina turner, i had a chance to interview her as well, in edmonton, alberta, in canada, in either 1985 or early 1986 and she brought the house

down and what an amazing person she was. she had done a single with another fellow i knew, bryan adams, "it's only love" and when you saw her in concert, she was just a force, sandra, to be reckoned with. really extraordinary. >> sandra: her energy was amazing. spokesperson saying tina turner, the queen of rock and roll has died peacefully at the age of 83, after a long illness in her home in switzerland. with her, the world loses a world legend and a role model. entertainment reporter as the world reacts to the loss of tina turner. >> hi, sandra, how are you? i am devastated. i keep singing "what's love got to do with it" over and over again and i can't help but think of the movie with the same name.

i had no idea when i first watched it that tina turner was a victim of domestic abuse. she is truly, truly amazing, and what she went through and what she overcame, i just, you know, she is just an absolute icon. who has broadway shows after them, movies, we are losing all the good ones here, you know. >> sandra: all right, lauren. thank you very much for joining us on the death of pop legend tina turner, dead at the age of 83. john, so many memories and just amazing to watch back at all these -- all these videos and all her concerts over the years and she really captured the attention of the world. >> john: she did, and she went through such a horrible, horrible time with ike turner, because he was so abusive to her during the time that they were together in the ike and tina review, and a lot of people had thought that her time in the music business had come and gone by the time that the 60s came to

a close, but i -- back in my former life in music television i remember when her comeback was launched with "private dancer" album and at the age of 44, as i mentioned earlier, the oldest person to have a song on the billboard hot 100 with "what's love got to do with it," and "better be good to me," "private dancer," and sang "hot legs" live with rod stewart in 1981, again, she sang "it's only love" with bryan adams, very famous canadian musician, and when we saw her in concert in edmonton, at that point she was 46 years old and back then, that was taken to be ancient in the world of rock and roll. the people like mick are doing it well into their 70s now, but she was an amazing force on the stage and such a wonderful,

wonderful person, too, when you sat down and had a chance to talk with her. i wish i could find the interview i did with her, it's locked up in an archive with her somewhere. she was so gracious to us and enthusiastic, and blessed with the opportunity at a second shot at a music career, much more successful the second time around than the first time around. >> sandra: john, one of the defining pop icons of the 1980s and she did it, and that musical and as we now know, turbulent musical partnership but she became one of the biggest solo acts in the world. >> john: and if you've ever been to a kennedy center honors, i had the opportunity to go to a couple of them, and elton john was one of the honorees i saw once upon a time, they are such extraordinary events where it's like you watch the artist's face as they watch unfold on stage every facet of their career over

the years and her tribute, the kennedy center honors, was something quite extraordinary. and it's soffiting for a person who had such a rich history in the music business, a person who came through hard times to come out at the top of the mountain and she will be forever remembered as the dynamic individual and even though she has been out of the scene for a while now, as she battled illness, she will forever fondly hold a place in all of our hearts. >> sandra: and just known for the electric on stage performance, her string of hits obviously that everybody is probably singing out loud in their living rooms now, "the best," "proud mary," "private dancer," first found fame in the 1960s along with her husband ike turner, pop icon tina turner dead at the age of 83. >> john: we are losing them

right, left and center. >> sandra: tina turner, dead at the age of 83. >> martha: it is the music and her dancing -- look at this video with mick jagger. doesn't get any cooler than tina turner. what an amazing talent and what a portrait of resilience she was throughout her career. that is the sad news that we greet you with today on "the story." breaking moments ago, tina turner, the iconic tina turner that churned out enormous hits like "what's love got to do with it" which a painful song based on her