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right. so you give me the time on the other side. odd because it was one of the few times i could not see it. >> oh is it really. is that what we're saying? i was late one time in all the years i've been together. >> all right. now a lot of it's all right. so out your awesome show and i will pick it up where you left off. i'm laura ingraham. this is the "ingraham angle" from washington tonight. we're going to bring you voices from inside tonight's twitter announcement from ron desantis. david sax, who actually moderated the event along with congressman thomas massie ,he participated as well. he'll be here. plus, you're going to hear from newt gingrich, charlie hurt, raymond arroyo. they're going to compare previous presidential launches and tell you how this one stacked up. but first, as you might have guessed, desantis launches. that's the focus of tonight's angle. >> now it's quiet. let's see. so we all look so just to simplify.

>> all right, great. so let's see. >> crashing here. i'm super excited to have governor , because, okay, we're being a little naughty here. >> yeah, it was a little glitchy. you have to laugh at yourself. that's kind of stuff happens to us all the time on the anger angle. but ron desantis announced his presidential bid tonight, of course. but will not plagued with technical issues. the question and answer period, especially is really important, like when he pledged he's going to rein in our fat, bloated government. >> buckle up when i get in there, because the status quo is not acceptable and we are going to make sure that we constitutionalize this government. and these agencies are totally out of control. there's no accountability. and we are going to bring that in a very big way, actually legislate. so you're not delegating to the bureaucracy, see key issues regarding how to enforce federal law? >> yeah, the bureaucracy is strangling the american

people and our freedom. and he addressed that specifically. but long before he announced tonight, the jackals on the left had decided that he, in fact, could even be scarier than trump . >> there are a lot of younger people in that party that are much scarier. >> desantis for one , this guy is a fascist. this is the coming straight out of the authoritarian playbook. this is what's so disturbing about desantis. >> and desantis is almost accelerated the racism as the point in his quest to run the most right wing fascist primary campaign ever. desantis is throwing all the right wing, putting at the wall with and now something for "vanity fair" yesterday that was so bizarrely vicious. it's almost a parody of itself, kind of like that montage we just played for you , a piece that was titled desantis will formally announce his 2020 four bid with elon musk because apparently david duke wasn't available and there were other neo-nazi sympathizers and very

subtle kids. >> now, of course, this isn't anything that president trump and candidate trump had already been subjected to , except a thousand times worse because they tried and are still trying to kill him politically with federal and state investigations, lawsuits and oh, no big deal . >> just to impeachment's donald trump is deliberately putting out a racist, bigoted, nativist appeal, as well as a neo fascist peel. >> the emotionally unstable donald trump is a white nationalist, is a fascist. >> he's embraced violence. trump , they're not only lying ,but being casually racists, bending over backwards, being an apologist for vladimir putin and for russia. >> you notice the similarity here. they have the same pattern. no matter who the republican is now, most people would have melted into a puddle of goo in the first month of these types of attacks. >> but remember, trump just keeps going. there was no collusion

with russia. there was no obstruction and none whatsoever. and it was a complete and total exoneration. it's a shame that our country had to go through this. >> we are a nation that no longer has a free and fair press. fake news is all you get, and they are the enemy of the people. we are a nation where free speech is no longer allowed. we're going to bring energy down way down. >> we're going to get the interest rates down. we're going to get back to a great life. and now he wants to take the fight back to the white house to finish the job he started. now, think about that for a moment. president trump was determined to run again despite knowing that he had if he had quietly left politics after the election, the attacks and the legal threats most certainly would have stopped. so desantis, trump's only viable competitor, have

that same moxie, that same it's almost a lust for battle. and can he get stuff done in washington when going to be throwing acid at him? twenty four , seven . and while running a national campaign and the national media spotlight that is hot is a of a lot different than running a state. the signs are that desantis, like trump , does have the spine to fight through it all and not lose focus on actually what matters. consider what he's gotten done against the media and the democrat freakouts in his own state. this is political politico. excuse me, of all places that talked about his accomplishments just last legislative session. one of the most productive stretches of right wing lawmaking, any state seen in years. week after week, legislators pushed through measures dealing with abortion, guns, the death penalty, immigration, schools and gender identity. sometimes amid protests inside the capitol and after winning

reelection by nearly 20 points . let's face it, desantis knew that he had the leverage, the mojo to actually get his agenda passed. the law. desantis, his allies in the legislature, delivered nearly everything he asked for, whether it was imposing new regs on disney or a law designed to block china from buying land in florida. >> that, you know, he's getting under their skin when even the white house got into the lie that because desantis banned the twisted propaganda being shoveled out to florida school kids, he's also banning books and poems being amanda gorman been banned in florida elementary school. do you have a comment on chatgpt? the president and his administration certainly stand with her in banning books. is censorship, period? that's what that is . when you ban a book, you are censoring it is it limits american freedom, americans freedom. >> now, just for rewriting

books. now, of course, their claim is patently false. the book is simply move from elementary school to a middle school where it was deemed more appropriate, but get used to it. this is what they're going to do now. even more absurd, though, is that the same people who praised biden's mastery of stage and substance are jumping all over desantis. >> his demeanor? >> look, i he's hard to get along with . one on one . he's pretty awkward to admit what you're saying. >> he's already going on one with one on one and he's not a great campaigner. >> the guy who , by the way, is not expanding his own base of support. and it's also not doing anything to help with the awkwardness because he's awkward, too awkward. >> i'll show you . awkward. there's a lot of other for example, the idea that we're in terms taxes that they refuse to , for example, we i was able to balance the budget and pass everything from the global warming bill anyway. >> anyway, for example, as the

press and the pundits and the former president are going to use a flamethrower against desantis, it's going to be tempting for him to fall back on the cultural issues that have dominated his profile really for the past year or so. and as important as those are, we certainly spent a lot of time on the angle talking about them. >> he and all republicans should remember what the voters really care about. they're telling us the latest harvard harris survey tells us that not drag shows or disney. now it's the economy, inflation and high prices, immigration that are bothering people. so both desantis and trump should remember that reagan won in 1980, hammering carter's economy and clinton won in ninety two , hammering bush's economy as tempting and fun as the other issues are to bat around the path to victory is offering credible solutions to what worries voters most.

>> but we spend your whole life savingg, dwindling, dwindling, dwindling everything just getting more expensive.e a living. inflation is taking a bite out of everything. it's getting more and more difficult, you know, to to manage all that now. >> and i wonder by the numbers on helen, economy are among the worst i've ever seen with just 33% approval. and only 24% of americans say national economic conditions are in good shape. >> so i was a little surprised that governor desantis and his host spent almost no time on the issue tonight. that's going to need to change on the stump. so how about saying something like, my energy policy will help push gasoline back down closer to around two 30 a gallon. and my trade policy is going to help main street, not wall street , my border policy is going to tackle the fentanyl nightmare that's killing our people in my industrial

policy is going to insulate us from china's global ambitions and aggression. i'd vote for that and that's angle. joining me now is kentucky congressman tom casey, who has endorsed governor ron desantis for president . congressman, you obviously believe that desantis has to fight it, given what he's accomplished, which is a huge amount in florida. what is it, though, about the economy? that seems like we didn't spend much time talking about that tonight, even though every single poll shows that that is the number one concern by far of the american people. >> well, i'm glad you brought that up. >> and look, desantis is decisive, but not impulsive. but the reason trump can't run on inflation is he's the one who pushed. so we get to call on congress before we get to trump . well, i asked a question. we had a big event tonight and it was exciting. and a little glitchy.

but that's all right. and i was involved. yeah. and you were there. we're going to tease you about something later. you were there. but the economy is the number one issue in which you talk about it at all. >> what will run will be able to talk about the economy because he didn't shut his down and trump was urging of governors to shut their economies down. and i was in congress and i got screamed at by president trump . by the way, if he wins the nomination, i'll vote for him enthusiastically. but he was for the two trillion dollar cures act. and one of the reasons we did, we had a lackluster performance in the midterms is because we couldn't run against inflation, because most of my colleagues were urged by trump to spend three or four trillion dollars we didn't have that caused the inflation ron desantis doesn't have that problem. yeah, maybe he should have talked about that in the twitter spaces, but that was that was ranging dialog that wasn't scripted. like he could have written a speech and scripted. but the great thing is we got

to ask him whatever we wanted. they suggested i asked him a question. i asked a totally different question. so that was the beauty and the danger of a twitter space . and they had some technical glitches. but look, this is a young, you know, he's a young guy. he's using technology and he could be the future of our party. that's why i'm backing him. it's not a dead end. >> now, he touched on a covert issue tonight. watch us . >> we need an honest reckoning about what happened during covid in the only honest reckoning is that all of those agencies, all of the elites, the public health establishment, they failed had florida not just kind of stood in the way. i think this country would have had rolling lockdowns for probably a two year period. >> now, congressman massie, how important is this message and his defiance and criticism of fauci going to be to this election?

i mean, fauci, is that really mean? and no one took on fauci earlier than yours truly. i mean, i hit him hardest early. so i high five that. >> but to win the election is going to be i was against fauci and you had him in the white house. is that how we're going to beat trump ? no. we all know trump should have fired fauci. but look at what ron desantis did in florida. he fired his surgeon general and got one who followed common sense. >> he got josef's ladipo, who followed the science and not the science, but the data. okay, so we can expect that ron desantis this would do the same thing in the white house. but and here's another thing more . we're going to have to reach out to groups that republicans haven't reached out to before. ron desantis didn't shut down the beaches or the bars or the gyms. okay, so they're young people under 30 . look, this covid lockdown nonsense was really a war from the left leaning boomers

against people under 30 who really had not much risk. and ron desantis was the shining star there in these lockdown's. and i think we got a lot of young people who said, you know what, i might be a republican because we had a republican governor , unlike california and our beaches didn't get shut down. >> our bars didn't get shut down. our gyms didn't get shut down. congressman, you mentioned your parents. of course, tonight's airspaces i have to play. you're open. you know, everyone knows i like i like massee a lot, but i don't play the open and how you introduce yourself. >> i've never met elon musk, but i'm one of your biggest fans and the first congressman to have a tesla. >> just for the record, i as i was with thomas our first year in congress, he's got a tesla, but his license plate is kentucky coal. so he's probably one of the only people that have that . >> all right. as you mentioned, this is a free wheeling discussion.

and the up to moscow is classic. i love that. i was the first one to have a tesla i . i don't like electric cars myself, but go ahead. okay, maybe it was a second, but if you say ron desantis, if you say ron desantis is not personable and can't jab, it was one that it was funny. >> look, he hit me right there . he called me out. i've got friends of coal license plates out of my car. it's not a lie. and ron desantis called me out. i got to say, that was not scripted. if i could go back and ask you not to do it, i would. that was that that i enjoyed thoroughly. >> congressmen, great to see you tonight. we enjoyed it. thanks so much. if you broke twitter, my daughter and the connections are going to be very upset with you. i don't know if that's what happened with elon musk or not. maybe you just had a big audience. we had a huge audience. it did it is the biggest they've ever had. it did break the twitter space and so we're really excited with the enthusiasm.

>> joining us now, charlie hurt, opinion editor at the washington times, fox news contributor charlie, who really got the bigger black eye with a launch, governor desantis or just twitter? i mean, desantis, i think acquitted himself pretty well there. but i mean, this was a twenty one minutes pain before we actually heard. >> and it was especially. yeah, especially there at the beginning. it sounded like a bunch of college kids in a frat house trying to figure out how to work the xoom call. it didn't didn't didn't didn't take off all that well. >> but, you know, honestly, i do think that largely it's probably a benefit to for twitter and for elon musk in that he has demonstrated that he does believe in giving a platform to republicans and the best place to sort of gauge that is to listen to the hysteria from the left about

the fact that that elon musk has done this. >> and honestly, all he did was gave some space to allow a republican to announce his campaign for president . it's not like he pulled a mark zuckerberg who spent four hundred million dollars in 2020 in a get out the vote campaign for democrats, which, of course, the left conveniently forget when they attack elon musk. but to me, it really does prove just how far the left has sort of sold out any even pretense that they that they want to , you know, want to have anything that they even want there to be a public town square to exist, not, of course, at one point they controlled it. and over the years, that sort of merged away from them because they're such tyrants and they do such a terrible job with free speech. and you have a guy like elon musk is clearly not, you know, some right winger who is not

a conservative. it was interesting listening to some of the answers that ron desantis was giving, giving elon musk is like, oh, really? i had no idea that it was like he had never, like, read a basic profile of ron desantis. >> but again, to me, you know, i'll take that audience. >> i'll take those rules any day. because i think the arguments on the conservative, on the republican side are so much better that if you just have we're just looking for some some some free space to have a fair dialog. >> yeah, i think we don't ever fight. >> yeah. i think he would offer if a democrat wanted a challenge, biden did offer them the same thing. >> correct? i mean, i yes. i think that would drive the. yeah. and i think that would drive the left even more nuts. can you imagine if he opened up his space for an rfq to come on there and raise the questions that he's , i think he should do about his own democrat president ? >> i do, too. i would be fantastic. and by then, maybe they could get all the glitches out.

well, by the way, cnn tonight, they actually had a rather muted response. >> what i don't think it's going to be a long lasting problem for his campaign. >> it's already up and running . >> he'll move on to other things. perhaps this will be a metaphor we do not know. >> but the biggest day is tomorrow. i think we will quickly forget about this. >> elon musk, a twitter situation, charlie, i agree. they're so bitter. they're so angry. it's really if there's no other reason to love this, it's to watch those people get so upset about this. >> they weren't upset. they were like, i don't think it matters that it was glitchy. i think they're just they're annoyed that ron desantis is young. it has a young family. he's in our accomplished a lot and he drives the left in his state. absolutely. bonkers. that's why they despise him. but i mean, they're not going to criticize him as some glitch in twitter. i mean, it's i mean, they were

at least sensible on that. probably. great to see you . thanks so much. and still ahead, newt gingrich on tonight's announcement and what surprises are in store for us this election season? plus, we speak exclusively with the moderator of desantis event and also a father of three beaten to death outside of his house in front of his children. and it was shockingly all caught on ring camera. fox has just spoken to his now widow. >> and we'll bring you that exclusive sound next. to make you born with the sales tax here. >> check everywhere in congress, ron desantis wanted to replace the current system with a national sales tax. a twenty three percent tax hike on almost everything you buy from the gas station. to the grocery store. you'll pay a mortgage payment there. you'll pay everyone. okay, we can't afford bondies sales tax, make america great

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the nation. i think you get a lot of peoplae say, i want two dollars and 30 agnt gasoline again. and that's what they want. they want to be able to fill th their tanks for 40 bucks, notr 0 one hundred , i note. great to seebu you .ck thank you .hunt. so much. now now to a tragic story out oo of maryland tonight. marya father of three savagely beaten to death while tryingdre. to protect his children. now, friday night, a group ofht teens, two adults, showed up at the home of forty three year old christophe ar michael wrighl and according to his family, demanded that his son come outside. and earlier in the day, the 14n year old had apparently got into some fight at school. >> wright told them the groupol. that showed up that there is no' way his son was coming outfight. to fight his heartbroken hifiancee told our own griff jenkins what happened next. >> ir f he doesn't come out,'r we're going to get in to getg to them. and their dad was like, nobody's coming in the house. so then they said, well, ify he's not going to fight, you're going to fight. and that's when all broke loose.

right. >> ahere'sd son tried to save his dad during the attack, but could not stop it. >> he looked over and he could d just see his dad lying there, te not moving. and the other adult still hitting him and hitting him and hitting them. this is where he ultimately the fight ended in the statesth, here. was quite a bloody scene was the next day, right? >> was dad. and the chaos surroundingunding the attack was caughtca on the family's ring camera. >> the only thing that i've seen was my son. i opens the door. my youngest son's 12 years old, and i can hear him screaming ,, daddy, daddy, daddy. and he just runs out the door as fast as possible and justibld rushes to his dad's side. m and my 12 year old has thiss fre phone on . my 14 year old has this phonendi in his hand calling. >> i'm online now, despite knowing exactly who these: now

attackers are and the adultsde c who are with them, police have a yet to make anke arrest. >> do you believe that those adults should be possibly charged for homicide? yes, i 100% do. ut i know nothing about the law.ng but i know one thing.d no if they had not made it down here, if they had not broughtn those kids down here, chris would still be alive. >> griff jenkins is going to have more on this horrificy story tomorrow. now, up next, while the news is focused on the contest between desantis and trump, whats cused on the contest aboua biden and his memory mes and another company is dragging its customers? well, what doehas that mean?at raymond arroyo is going ray to explain and seen and unseen ,which is next . fox station is forever grateful to those who've put this great country first. and to show our appreciation, we're continuing to offer all

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>> well, what happened at the top law is just we hadd a million people simultaneouslyt trying to get into a twitterwi i space , which is an online roomt . and i mean, desantis jushet had melted the servers. we had s io muchnteres interest i mean, i got to hand it to her. normally it take, s a kardashian to do that. so we just had so much interest. it took about fifteen minutes. we've never had that level o. tefs, wat l scalevele before on twitter.i tn i think the biggest room has a been around one hundred thousand and so after about fifteen minutes, wey just moved the room to my t account from alan's account. and then it really worked perfectly. i think if your viewers wantourw to go on twitter, the recording is going viral right now. they're going to wonder what all the fuss is about, because once we goe got started, the aun was perfect. and i thini k the governor was totally unflappable. and i think one thing i learneie about him from this is that once we did get started and we o were, you know, abouw,t 15 , 20 minutes late, there was no hint of anger or irritationt. on his part. heas was i in a great mood.t he didn't he was, like i said,,e cool and unflappable, you know ,really, i think made a great

impression of someone who doesn't get thrown off his game very easily. >>made a g now, he certainly do. and again, other people would el havey. been really unhappy.le w this kind of thingould has happd to me a lot.unthis k david , i'm kind of laughing because i'm very empathetic when this kind of stuff happens. of i'm glad it happens to elon musk because he's a lot smarter than a lot of peoplee' like me on technology. let's talk about the economy, because that wase on one issue t meand i've mentioned this with newt earlier. ofu probably missed it, buis wiy wasn't more of a focus tonightit on the issue, the numbering them one issue that americans say is bothering them, which is inflation whichs , high pricn the economy? >> i mean, you're right. we should have had more questions on that. there's so many other questions that we could have gotten to . s but the time just went by so fast. >> we only had abouto an hour and , you know, i wantedto g to give him timeiv to firsto fi lay out his vision, and he did that at the top.e and then w e got into some of s these controversieurs that havec been surrounding him. i asked him about this naacptraa skedtravel advisory. k becaked him about disney. we asked him about the bookt in

fans because there's a lot ofav people out in the country who have heard all of thesean narratives in the mainstream media and they've never heard directly fro m him on these issues. chd so i wanted to give him the chance to respond to those things. and then, you know t, weal talkd about major issues like immigration. wemajo talked about education. there were a lot of issues that we did talk about. talked i think it's fair. maybe we should have talkedou more about the economy, but we also talked aboue t, you know, what a great, i think economyecm the state of florida hasy,.loria and there's going to ber thes opportunities for more of these town halls. >> so, you know, we'll we'll>> u get next time. david , carau gin you giveve use of the room? a se are all dying to like what you guys together like was was elon musk evene there was in europe. i mean, we didn' ot know where anybody you know, elon and i were together in a conference room in twitter headquarters, uh and there were a bunch of engineers gathered around us . and again, it'gathers because wa never had an event like this thi on social media where you'ven ps got literally a million plusg b people trying to break down the doors to get into a twitterh space . and the only way to really testt

the scalability of a techo th platform is you just get tof that next level of scale. so we had engineers there who are helping us out and we just made the switch to my account. thenthen, like i said, it worked lt perfectly, but it wae and elon sitting next to each other. and we were just we tried usinyg his phone that we tried using my phone and it worked out great. so desantis was in, i think, n florida. and so this is the magic of twitter space is that everyonec can be in different places. >> so that was fun.space. because we had no idea where anyone was. we wanted photos of all of you , but we got none of that really quickly. ukraine was an issues a that, you know, i careyo about a lot because, you know, i'm i'm kind of against all these wars of choice. i think we're we're blowingut a lot of money and not sure what we're going to get out ofth it in the . but what about if desantisanti wins? what do you think is goings to happen on that score? >> well, i 100% with you. i mean, i think ukraine is a proxy war of choice. s i don't think we should be indar wars of choice. i think it's sou bo dangerous te in a escalatory spiral with russia, which has thousands of nuclear weapons. ns what i've heard desanto says sa about this issue is that what'si

happening in ukraine is not does not rise the level of a vital american interest. to achievsheoug a cease fire . so you mighta take on it. is that where desantis is ?s th is that is that he would work to achieve a cease fire as president ? whereas my sense that bindf th us keeps trying to ratchet this up and escalate this thing. so d i think i'm with you on this, laura . >> allm with right, david , we y enjoyed it. thank you so much for joining us . now, you must be exhausted. i hope you g mo have a tequilau shot after that was that wasom come back soon. thanks so much.e back all right. >> coming up, what stole the show at a college graduation last night explains . this is this is iowa. we just haven't been properly introduced. say hello to the place where rolling hills meets low bills, where our fields inside and outh are always growing and whereen the fun is just getting started

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