how many have sacrificed and given the ultimate sacrifice to make the united states of america the greatest country on the face of the planet. may god bless them and may we all remember them in our prayers. have a wonderful holiday weekend. may you be safe and may god bless america. ♪ ♪ >> laura: i'm laura ingraham and this is a special edition of the ingraham angle, the road to 2024. all right, the 2024 gop primary race officially kicked into the high gear this week with governor ron desantis somewhat glitchy announcement. now others have been in the race including senator tim scott who jumped in earlier in the week but they have a long way to go, not just in terms of catching up in the polls but to ensure voters they're going to actually be something other than another

version of the bush administration. we're going to get into that with mollie hemingway and charlie hurt. but for decades we've seen members of both parties attack at the core of the america-first agenda. >> i inherited a nation that had a serious loss of credibility around the world as america first. >> we've seen nationalism distorted into nativeism. >> unrestrained nationalism is the last refuge of those who cannot or will not deliver real progress and opportunity for their own people at home. >> laura: well, that old regime is gone, and i don't think it's ever coming back, certainly not in the republican party. and now we have some new opportunities and candidates with actual back bones. we know donald trump has one. his anti war record is well-documented. and ron desantis, well, we're going to see more about what he believes on all the issues that we care about as his campaign goes forward. but both have pretty much shown us that their desire is to put

america first, americans first, and not to clivarine at all the attacks they're going to get from the globalists on the other side, the establishment. they're always about globalism first, what's good for america second. we already know where they stand. but let me tell you where the biden regime is. first on china. >> we're not looking to decouple from china. we're looking to de-risk and diversify our relationship with china. >> laura: that's funny. and on a secure border. >> one of of the biden administration's answers to increase migration at the border is to expand legal pathways. it is important that we expand legal pathways because we simply need the workers. >> laura: and even on something as basic as, i don't know, the old fashioned american work ethic. well on that the democrats revolt and they go back to their old, you know, lies about, well, the children. >> mr. chairman, can your caucus accepted the work requirements?

>> the average snap benefit, by the way, is $6 per person per day. that's who republicans are. they would rather cut that or eliminate it and take food out of the mouths of kids in order to make a political point. >> laura: yeah. they care about all those kids who aren't aborted. now all of this can end, of course, in november 2024. the primary battle between trump and desantis is going to be brutal. we already see kind of what's happening. but as the old saying goes, look, no pain, no gain. we're going to emerge stronger as both candidates work harder i think to lay out their vision for the country, and to convince everyone that it's just not all talk. trump has a record of success on a lot of these big foreign policy issues, desantis has a record of success in the way he handled his state. but both of them seem to have really good ideas and early on, at least, plans to implement

them. well, trump versus desantis, we're going to see where this ends up and joining me now sean duffy cohost of the bottom line on fox business and ben domenech editor at large of the spectator and fox news contributor >> now, sean, trump is leading by, i mean, in one poll wasn't it like 40 points? by a wide margin against desantis in just a head to head. how close does desantis have to get in the just generic head to head poll, separate from the battle ground states, in order to make this a real horse race? >> well, so i think it's going to be a horse race no matter what because if you look at the elite republican, that side of the republican party they love desantis because they hate donald trump but if you look at the voters of the republican party,s the middle america who showed up at republican volunteers centers that republicans have never seen before, those people love donald trump. so i think this is going to be a horse race no matter what but i think as it goes on, you're

right, it's going to be tough going to be hard but metal sharpens metal you want these campaigns and candidates to go head to head and fight it out because in the end they will be better candidates against joe biden or whoever the democrats put forward. so all in all i think it's going to be a hard race for trump. >> laura: and then the congressional endorsement game, you know, how many endorsements can you get and how many can you put up on the screen. only five republican members of the house have endorsed desantis, his old colleagues. more than 50 have endorsed trump. now, does that matter? is that a bad sign for desantis going forward? >> i don't know if congressional endorsements matter in the history of politics. i can't pretend to say that they actually matter. i think one thing it's critical about ron desantis is he's engored and backed by somebody

like chip roy who has already made as much as he possibly can of the right wing of the current house of representatives, has been someone who's a leader of that charge. but when you look at someone like desantis and his challenges i don't think you should in any way underestimate them. he's been a very successful governor of florida no one who's a conservative discounts that. but we've seen time and again where conservatives come out of states and do amazing thing but we remember rick perry and scott walker and how they fell on their face on the national stage and whatever you thought about being abling to dominate in texas or wisconsin you were not able to actually translate that. that is the big thing that's going to be a challenge for ron desantis. i think he has a campaign team that's focused on winning the early states of iowa and new hampshire and competing in south carolina. i really think, though, he needs at least one of those south carolinaians to drop out in order to compete with trump there. but that's something i think is really key about this. can he hit the ground running over the coming couple of weeks,

get out there as much as possible. we've seen the schedule. he's going to all these different states. how do people respond to him? that remains to be seen. >> laura: well, sean one of the things. >> a different position. >> laura: go ahead, sure. >> yeah, so, listen, no one votes for a presidential candidate because of a congressional endorsement but the members of congress know ron desantis because they served with him and they know donald trump because he was their president and you see a massive number endorsing donald trump because ron desantis was not very popular in the congress. and i think when these campaigns develop, you can't hide your personality. who you are really comes out on the stump and on the campaign trail, and i think you'll see a different side of ron desantis than a lot of people won't like where donald trump, whatever you say about him, he is an amazing compelling person. when you meet him one on one or you see him in the crowd people absolutely fall in love with him. ron doesn't have that kind of charisma. >> laura: ben, i'll let you address that. >> wait, wait, wait. i've heard that from a number of different members of congress but a lot of members of congress

who say that he doesn't have charisma doesn't have charisma. >> except for sean, sean has charisma. >> sean absolutely has charisma. are you kidding, he's one of those members of congress in history. this is one of those things. no, no, let me just finish. i think one of the things that i think is a big challenge for him is that he has been underestimated over the course of his career and he has met those expectations i think with a stubbornness and a zeal to win that is ultimately the reason he's the governor. that doesn't necessarily translate to the national stage and you are right these members of congress are assessing him based on their experience with him in the past when he had his ear buds in his head and was not being the friendlyest guy. that's not always though the best judge who's going to be good when it comes to the national stage. >> laura: yeah, governing. >> you need charisma to judge charisma. >> laura: okay. sean and ben, we're definitely, we are definitely continuing this segment throughout the campaign season. this is going to be good. okay.

this is going to be better than desantis versus trump. now let's turn to biden who, of course, is consistently just bombed in the approval ratings, low 40s of course and his campaign is practically nonexistent. you don't even really see a campaign do you? i don't. a terrible communicator and lets other countries walk all over us. but what's more important is that, if he winss in 2024, i know a lot of people don't want to hear that possibility, he'll be 86 at the end of his second term. and if this is how he is at 80. >> nancy pelosi's going to go down in history as one of the most consequential speakers, she'll press through the economy in the great depression. i also want to express for my buddy kamala i worked for in the white house. >> lie around this room and as they say in southern delaware, a lot of you brung me to the dance man. >> represent tive cat hoop,

excuse me, mccollum. >> laura: joining me mark penn former clinton advisor and raymond arroyo fox news contributor and the angle's biden chronicler. mark, look, this is obviously a problem. the democrats know it. they kind of ignored the feinstein issue, we were talking about it years ago. they ignored it and now they're like well feinstein's way too infirmed to be in the senate. but they know the problem, do they not? and they're going to try to do the hologram campaign again to try and shield him. >> yeah. i think the other day even hillary clinton acknowledged that age is a factor. 65% of the voters think that joe biden is too old to run for president. most voters think that kamala harris will wind up being president. this is definitely a big issue. it's the big elephant that's right in the room and everybody knows it. >> laura: speaking of hillary we have that sound bite.

let's listen to it. >> there was that heart-stopping moment where he almost fell over coming down the stairs a day or two ago. is that a concern? >> well, i mean, it's a concern for anyone, and we've had presidents who have fallen before who were a lot younger, and people didn't go into, you know, heart palpitations. but his age is an issue and people have every right to consider it. >> laura: raymond, she's thinking to herself, is there a path, is there a path. no, who knows. >> you can almost see the wheels grinding in hillary's head as she says that. but, look, clearly, i mean, it's more than a concern at this point, laura. this is a major liability. when you have 62% of people in this recent marist poll saying they're concerned about his mental fitness and seven of ten independents saying the same thing, joe biden has a big problem here. and, you know, everybody was making fun of ron desantis's campaign launch, laura.

remember biden. it was a pre-packaged instagram video heavily edited by the white house because the man can't complete a thought live. and if you don't believe me, this is from earlier this week just the other day. note that the birds are louder than the president and his biggest concern and frame of reference is something he saw on television. watch this. >> you've made history. and you have even made it as a jeopardy clue. did you know that? you made it as a jeopardy clue. the daily double no less. retain our competitive edge in an age where emerging technologies from ai to 3-d printing. when general brown is chairman i know i'll be able to rely on his advice as a military strategists and as a leader. >> laura: um, mark. >> i don't know if you could hear that laura but the wood brushes were out vocalizing him.

high school voice is soy diminished at this point. and the difference between now and 2020 is people didn't have a full picture of the decline of joe biden. they now have it in tech color. >> laura: i think the difference raymond -- i'm sorry. the difference i think is they see him and they see their, you know, their standard of living. so his dough kline and then the standard of living going down. and, mark, i mean, at the same time the betting markets, i think most of them have biden winning in 2024. >> look, our latest poll show trump ahead by 7. look, this is a tough candidacy for joe biden. i'm not even sure he'll wind up the nominee. i think everybody's going to wait until july or august and see whether or not he can prove his ratings a bit. i think this budget negotiations may show some life in him if he comes to some, you know, good deal with the republicans and it's a bipartisan deal.

but if his ratings don't start improving democrats are going to start to wonder is this the right person for the party. it's a tough candidacy. >> laura: raymond do you see that? is old joe -- >> i will a tell you why i don't see it mark. you have candidates, rfk jr. can't get any air. the democratic party and media have sort of iced him out entirely. so i think the democrats have put all of their money on biden now and he's not the daily double, he's the daily trouble for them, so good luck with that. the birds might have a better chance of reelection as we move through the year here. >> laura: we'll see. mark and raymond great to see both of you. have a great weekend. now, we've talked about trump and desantis, but what about the others? the republican field is expanding, so do any of them have even the remoteist chance? might be surprising from mollie hemingway and charlie hurt next. ♪ keep them looking their best with the kubota lineup.

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♪ >> laura: the majority of our focus for 2024 has been on trump versus desantis. desantis versus trump. but what about the others? like south carolina senator tim scott? he announced this week. >> they're attacking our american values, our schools,

our economy, and our security. but not on my watch. [cheers and applause] >> not on my watch! that won't work. >> laura: now, staying with south carolina, there's former governor and former ambassador to the u n nikki haley. >> it's time for a new generational leader. these are new problems, we need new solutions. >> laura: and then there is entrepreneur vivek ramaswamy trying to make a name for himself on the national stage. >> we still are the country where, no matter who you are or where your parents came from or what your skin color is, that you can get ahead in this country with your own hard work. >> laura: and, finally, former arkansas governor asa hutchinson. >> in this campaign for president, i stand alone in terms of my experience, my record, and leadership. >> laura: well, rounding out the others are those who still

haven't announced but maybe are rumored to do so. depends on which day of the week it is. we're going to get to that in a moment. joining me now mollie hemingway editor and chief of the federalist and charlie hurt washington times opinion editor and fox news contributor. charlie there's a lot of names but they don't get a lot of national attention and probably won't past their week of their announcement but is it out of the realm of possibility that someone could emerge from that list to challenge trump or desantis? >> you know, these days, i don't rule anything out ever, because in politics, the way things have been going the last few years, i think absolutely anything is possible. i am glad that you reminded us that asa hutchinson is running for president. >> laura: oh, god. >> i had entirely forgotten. he's not even the he --'s the jeb bush of this cycle, but only the jeb bush at the end of the 2016 cycle. but, seriously, no, i don't rule

out the possibility that one of these other candidates could, could wind up being the nominee. you take someone like vivek ramaswamy working his tail off going around the country talking about interesting ideas, talking about things way outside the box. he's not an establishment candidate by any means. he's not even sort of the old school sort of republican kind of candidate. he's a breath of fresh air. i don't know that he catches fire this time, but i think he's going to be with us for a long time and i think that however this current election turns out, i think he's going to be a fan favorite going forward. >> laura: maybe run for governor or senate somewhere. >> yeah. >> laura: mollie, is there any path back for the old gop establishment, you know, the bush, mcconnell former, you know, dominate strain, in the republican party? anything conceivable to get them

back in power? >> well, i think a lot of people look at how the candidates who have all the enthusiasm and the excitement are not those bush era republican types. but people should -- republican voters should not forget that there would be a path for one of these, you know, republican establishment figures if trump and desantis took each other out. and so people do need to be cautious. but in general, a large primary contingent is actually good for the party. you saw a large primary for the democrats in 2020. large primary for republicans in 2016. it's a really good way to hash things out. and it's interesting to note that in 2016, the field was full of those sort of bush era republicans. and now you're just seeing a few of them there now. >> laura: yeah. well, charlie, on that point, though, the big field was great for trump, the renegade pop lift, right? >> oh, yeah. >> laura: so that's why he's always welcoming people into the

race he knows what time it is. he said the more the merrier because it helps trump. maybe it will help desantis a little bit but it does, i think, end up helping trump in the end. am i getting that right? >> i think you're right and a lot of people underestimate what a smart political tactician trump is. >> really smart. >> laura: and also a fast learner which, of course, it seems like nobody in politics these days seems to be much of a learner. but i agree with mollie about the large field, and even more important than that is that all of the fresh ideas, every interest aring idea, even the ones that the three of us might not entirely embrace, all of the smarter ideas are on this side -- are on the republican side of the ledger. there are no good ideas left on the democrat side. >> laura: no, it's pessimism and despair as far as the eye can see. and, mollie, so mike pence, he hasn't declared yet but here's what he said about facing off with trump recently. >> i've debated donald trump

many times. just not with the cameras on. you know, i'd welcome the idea to bring my idea forward if i'm a candidate. >> laura: mollie, he's an extremely, you know, gracious and nice person, but how many debates did he win against trump internally? that's kind of a question there, is it not. >> yeah, i think it's a problem for him because he might point to his handling of the covid response as somewhere where he did win some debates with trump that's looking less great in retrospect but mike pence has many admirable policies but he recently praised the press, did one of these with the press in dc where he praised them and said they're heroic in that they had done things. i don't see that the american voter particularly a republican voter is looking for in a presidential candidate someone who thinks our corporate media are doing a good job at all. >> laura: no. and charlie anyone who we're leaving out who may jump in?

we've heard glenn youngkin's name referenced and then he said he's not interested. but i always think he's leaving a little door open. as mollie says, for some reason trump and desantis do the, you know, the dual where both of them get, you know, knocked out, does that leave any path for him? >> oh, i think he's absolutely leaving the door open. he's sort of playing both -- two games at the moment. but, you know, the other -- another person that hasn't announced anything but, you know if this -- and i don't think that this race, the primary is necessarily going to come down to some dual over covid restrictions, but if it were you could look at somebody like south dakota governor kristi noem who took a very principled stance in real time at the time and said no i'm not going to shut businesses down because i don't have the short to shut businesses down and even ron desantis can't say that. obviously donald trump can't say that, nor can mike pence.

as i look at it, i don't think any of the republicans running right now who were in a position of authority at the time can say that, but she can. >> laura: well, to that point, mollie, i mean, republican governors don't have the opportunity all that much to discuss our engagement with china, but ron desantis did come out and say no, no, no, no, we're not buying up all this property. we're not allowing the ccp to basically hand pick byers of property any longer in florida. does that give him the bona fide ease on the china issue that he doesn't perhaps otherwise have. >> i think the most important thing for the republican voter is that the republican nominee have an america-first approach to foreign policy and you've seen that with president trump, with governor desantis, who has expressed and articulated much of that same perspective that is so politically favorable within the republican primary. but, yeah, because of china infiltrating so much of the united states, governors have

ample opportunity to develop their foreign policy profile. >> laura: mollie and charlie great to see you both, thanks so much. >> thanks. >> laura: could 2023 really turn out in the end to be the year of democrat defectors to the republican party? well, we're going to talk to one next. and then the biggest defector of all the democrats are still angry about this, tulsi gabbard. she joins me on this growing trend next. so stay there.

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interest rate hikes could be coming as soon as next month. the potential move comes after new data shows u.s. consumer spending increased more than expected in april. that surge both boosted the economy's growth prospects and also increased inflation. the fed says it may need to raise interest rates again to get inflation to go down. i'm jackie ibanez, now back to the ingraham angle. >> laura: 2023 is turning into the year of the democrat defectors. four stay lawmakers flipped from democrat to republican just in the past few weeks and in some states they've given the republicans super majorities. one republican in south carolina sent the national media into a tail spin when she voted for a 12-week abortion ban. >> political earthquake bubble in the north carolina state house. >> they rolled back a right for

women they've for 50 years. >> what allowed them to do that is one person, state representative trisha. >> giving them the super majority. >> she completely pulled the wool over the eyes of her con stitch win. >> how did this all come down to her one vote. >> it's emblematic how much of a crisis our democracy was in. >> all we needed was one vote. >> laura: joining me now that one vote that the democrats are so desperately freaking out about in the north carolina legislature former democrat now republican state rep trisha cotham. representative you riled up the democrats to such an extent i was actually going to call the medics in when i saw their reaction. but what was the one thing that made you do it? was it the abortion issue or something even better or bigger? >> i think it's something bigger and just a history. the democratic party used to be

a big tent party. and you would see those who were more liberal, as things were called, and you had your business democrats in the south. many, many people were democrats. in the last few years, unfortunately, there's been a tremendous change going very extreme to the radical left wing, and very much out of touch, very concerned just about social issues and not about issues that bring in jobs, keeping jobs, preparing a work force, making sure our students have the best education. and with me, this is my sixth term entering into general assembly, i was appointed chairman position, you would have thought that the democrats would have seen that as something good, since they are so outnumbered, but instead i became enemy number one, and instead of just being excited, they just started to villainize me, attack me, and put out many, many rumors. and, you know, and that's fine, that's their only play book that

they have. but i think that there are many democratic leaders around the state, we come top serve, to do public service, to get things done, and the democratic party is not about that. it's about woke activism. it's not about free thinking. it is one way, their way, and no other way. >> laura: yeah. >> that is not who i am and i don't apologize for being a free thinker. >> laura: and your governor, democrat roy cooper actually declared a state of emergency on monday because the legislature actually wants to help kids and to help their parents. watch this. >> it's time to declare a state of emergency for public education in north carolina. the republican legislature is aiming to choke the life out of public education. if you care about public schools in north carolina, it's time to take immediate action and tell them to stop the damage that will set back our schools for a generation. >> laura: all right,

representative cotham what does that bill actually do that has him declaring a state of emergency. how embarrassing. >> the state of emergency is just political theater. our governor's a lame duck governor looking for his next political landing spot. he thinks the biden administration is going to be back. the school choice bill is my bill. i am the chair of education. this is the biggest expansion of school choice in north carolina. yes, we have a crisis, but i'll turn that right back on the governor for closing schools as long as he did, from keeping kids out of schools. and blaming parents. the blame is on him. and so this is just political theater sacrificing our children. this is about him, we're about kids first. >> laura: thank you so much. you're very brave. we appreciate it: >> i'm happy to be here. thank you laura. >> laura: joining me now tulsi gabbard former hawaii congresswoman fox news contributor and another former democrat. tumsy great to see you tonight. now, i think what most of the

he- >> good to see you laura. >> laura: -- of today's democratic party, they haven't grappled with the fact that people aren't leaving the party because of just one issue, they're leaving the party because of like 10 issues in the lunch to the left that -- they've gone so far left they've left america. this is an unrecognizable coalition of radicals. >> yeah, laura, they're lunching farther and farther toward insanity really. there's no other word i can find to describe it. the list of reasons, unfortunately, is long. and i think we will continue to see more and more americans who maybe call themselves democrats or used to, but leaving the democratic party because of a whole host of reasons. it's an elitist cabal of war mong railroads made uple politicians the media and the national security state. they are weaponizing the

national security state to go after opponents undermining our god given rights and freedoms enshrined in the constitution. they are seeking to censor and silence anyone who does not agree with them. they're tearing us apart with identity politics and racial eyeing everything, looking at what time the naacp just announced with florida. the list, unfortunately, we could do a whole show on all of these things and i think more and more americans are seeing clearly what they're doing. not to the party. this isn't about the party. but it's really, what are they doing to this country and how are they undermining our rights and freedoms and democracy. that's really what's at the heart of this. >> laura: you think of someone like an fdr or a jfk, go back to two classic figures that democrats claim to revere, you go back and look at their inaugural addresses they were so optimistic. they embraced america, the tradition of america, the patriotism, our meaning as a country, what did our country actually mean, what is freedom all about. that is gone. they would be, i mean, rolling

over in their grave is such a cliche tulsi, i mean, they would be looking at doing a triple lutz watching this party today. >> olympic style. >> laura: yeah, and now they're pro war as well. you touched on that. >> yeah. and that, you mentioned jfk. i went back and reread his speech that he delivered at american university specifically warning those students and the american people about the risk of nuclear war, and speaking in a hopeful tone saying that, even though it may seem impossible, that this danger just seems too great, there is a way and we must continue to pursue that path towards peace. you listen to his message, which was so inspiring and so truthful and so relevant today, and you look at people like president biden and other leaders of the democratic party, they're talking about, they have pushed us to the brink of nuclear war and talking about nuclear war with a straight face and if it's

just some other war we have to fight and wove to win without being honest to the american people that a nuclear war would destroy life as we know it and would destroy this planet that we live on. so, you know, they're being dishonest and in their dishonesty creating a greater threat to our safety security and freedom and it just shows, this elitist party cares about themselves, their own power maintaining and growing that power and they don't care about the american people. >> laura: i want to get your reaction, tulsi, to the headline that touches on one weird new obsession of the left. black magas, make american great again adherence, are a clear and present danger, lacking principles, black white nationalists say and do anything to please trump, trumpism and the white supremacist base as the color iced representative of fascism today's black magas are truly dangerous jokes. okay, there was the super mega maga and now there's the black

maga threat, you know, super threat. they're running out of -- yeah, hispanic white nationalist tommy just reminded me. the list goes on and on. >> jason: they've called me, they've called me a sixist, misogynist, white supremacists. >> laura: congrats. >> they throw these names out there and it doesn't make sense. >> laura: tulsi great to see you tonight thank you so much. coming up we break down all the most important positions and who would handle them best if elected. that's next.

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♪ >> laura: we all know that the economy is the top issue of this upcoming election and it also happens to be bidden's a keeley's heel a nightmare under biden. but the white house wants you to think don't worry it is a all under control. >> the message from the president to the american people is that we are fighting to protect american families, we are fighting to make sure that, you know, we're continuing to build an economy from the bottom up, middle out. >> laura: all right, kjp doesn't even seem like she believes what she's saying at this point. joining me now byron york chief political correspondent for the washington examiner, fox news contributor. also matt chairman of insider of advantage.

byron, none of this is reassuring because people see their bank statements or their account statements on a regular basis, and it's going like this for most americans, is. not? >> yes, and we see that in the polls. most americans oppose, disapprove of most everything joe biden does. if you look, at almost every issue he's under water on job approval and leading that is the economy, the most important thing. it is impossible to talk up an economy when people know they, themselves are either suffering or are afraid of falling off the edge. you can tell people that things are worse than they really are, and they think i'm doing okay, maybe somebody is suffering but if people themselves are suffering they will not buy it and biden won't be able to convince americans things are going well. >> laura: we talked about this

with desantis launch because they really didn't talk at all about the economy in the twitter event, matt, but to his point, look, the numbers are clear, inflation, immigration, the economy, jobs. that's the harvard harris extensive survey on american attitudes. so the cultural issues that are taking up a lot of the oxygen in the conversation right now, you know, they're kind of exciting and they're outrages, et cetera, et cetera. but isn't this more than of an 1980s style election, matt, than anything else? >> i think so and we were both around during that time period. i think this is going to be an economic, vote your pocketbook type of election and i think the candidates vote in the republican primary and also the general election, whoever the nominee is, it will be a center piece on who they vote for. i wrote a piece for real world politics today and i said one

concern republicans should have because there's such a democratic centric media out there, so much of it and so many people rely on social media that there will have to be a need to educate people because people do feel it in their pocketbook but things like the border, for example, you would be surprised in an unaided pole where you don't tell them what the ires, some people don't eastbound see the border, they need to see them streaming across one way or the other for people to really get set to believe they need to make a change and who's running the white house no matter how bad biden's numbers are right now. >> byron we always talk about the impact of short declarative clear ads and outreach to voters to mass point. how many ads, for instance, last campaign season. do any of you will us really remember? there's certainly no morning in america style ad. >> no. >> laura: no real ad that kind of stays with you and yet people

are getting rich off this, right, a lot of these consultants? >> oh, absolutely and the idea is to leave an impression. one of the things i do think about this campaign, since biden is under water on almost all of the issues, obviously he needs to try to make the election about something else. and what he is going to do is try to terrify voters about the threat of maga. mag in the person of donald trump or maga donald junior or ron desantis or any other republican who runs, that's the way he's got to do this. and there is some encouragement for democrats in the 2022 election. remember, the exit polls showed the economy was only okay or only fair people you would think would vote for republicans in a midterm actually went heavily for joe biden. they managed to convince them that the threat of extremism was so severe that perhaps they should overlook the clear economic issues in the election.

>> laura: and, matt, is that where the extremism angle would work for republicans as kind of a deflection? like you want to see extremism, look at what they endorse, and then you go to the, you know, crazy gender bending stuff and the proselytizing to the children about all these issues. is that how you would, that? >> it's certainly going to work with a certain segment of the voters and it will have a play in all of this. i don't know. byron just nailed it on the head. there is always a shiny object to look at, maga extremists, whatever, that seems to divert attention and once again as i said, a lot of the media aids that as we all know and you agree laura. so we're going to have to see where this goes. >> laura: byron, matt, great to see both of you, have a great rest of the weekend

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