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day weekend. something we have not seen since before the pandemic. i am talking away before. try 2005. what is it say about you the consumer in 2023? the rush is on in washington. that negotiator scrimmages strike a deal this weekend. to avoid a default it's now expected to hit around june 5 that is four days later than they originally told us. no matter can we forge a deal right here we will ask houston freedom caucus scott perry. blue dog democrat both are here and only here. the rush is on for the 2024 campaign cash a lot of cash at that. soft on senator tim scott is more than 21 million bucks worth. he tells us i plan to leap ahead of the gorgon gop packed with all vapid former donald trump maga donor who now says ron desantis is his man and points out eight-point to million dollars that florida governor has raised over his first 24 hours since making that

announcement proves he is a hit. even the twitter launch maybe not so much of a hit print welcome everyone i am neil cavuto. let's get right to it. man oh man busy time. my buddy dave for passing in last week. less than a chat program right now and see if there's a great job going on at least trying to get this chasm closed on this hold that thing, chad what you hear? >> as i sprinted to nail down the final details of the bill last night. both sides missed a deadline part in the secretary of treasury janet yellen says the government would burn through its cash by june 5. they are close but not there y yet. >> we are all tired. but that does not mean we are willing to just take something we think is not acceptable. right? nothing is done for the interplay between all the issues on the table makes even a short list more complex.

>> fox told permitting reform for energy project is out for the democrats are resisting additional work mandates for people to qualify for some benefits. quick so what is happening is they have run up a bill and it is time to pay that bill. and now they are trying to not pay that bill in order to try to secure cuts to our social services and other elite critical programs. this is not a normal thing. >> it is about the math. passing the bill requires a welcome blend of votes from the left and the right. they probably lose in both liberals and conservatives. plus it is harder to get a boat cap when members are not in washington. it's easier to look them in the eye. >> this has been the calculation of just how many votes can speak of mccarthy lord toulouse given effect is already passed a wish list built a lot of his members are going to rely on. you can talk yourself into the wish list and say we're the only

ones that move why would i give up something at the other side cannot come to the table on something they can pass? >> here's a keeper the relationship between house speaker kevin mccarthy and minority leader at hakeem jeffries. both need to trust one another to deliver a certain number of votes. the vote basis trouble as a counter offer. neil: thank you for that chapter when you get the latest in the white house. the present is not there this week and he is at camp david but no doubt following this develops very closely. lucas thomason has a lease on that front. >> tame neil, he cut his asia trip short to rush back to the white house to negotiate house speaker kevin mccarthy. he met with him only one time this week and that was back on monday. biden spoke on his way out of town yesterday. >> with regard to the debt li limit, things are looking good and very optimistic. i hope i have some clear evidence 10 nights before the

clock strikes at 12 that we have a deal. it is very close and i'm optimistic. >> of optimism there from press invited here's house speaker kevin mccarthy speaking before the president. >> the american public wants to see us curb our spending addiction here with the democrats. put us on a trajectory we are less dependent on china, curb inflation they created by adding $6 trillion. they want to see the cut the red tape americans can build things again. that is exactly what we are looking to do brickwork some critics are wondering how much the so-called debt ceiling crisis is real and how much is just politics free to call back in 2011 former federal reserve chairman alan greenspan said the u.s. can never default on its debt. today's treasury secretary janet yellen issued a another warning to house speaker kevin mccarthy yesterday sank in the letter based on the recent available data we now estimate the treasury will have sufficient

resources to satisfy the government's obligations if has not raised or suspended the debt limit by june 5 a few extra days to play with. the last meeting was for june 1. speaking of money we heard about ron desantis eight-point to million and 24 hours after he declared he was running for president we have not heard a peep out of the white house but how much the biting campaign has raised pigs a bit over a month since president biden said he is running for reelection. neil: thank you for all of that, lucas thomason at the white house but representative scott perry of pennsylvania is the chair of the freedom caucus. thirty-five members strong holding that speaker's feet to the fire maker who delivers the good. i was like heavy chairman. let me ask you about the move on the board of you and your colleagues to suggest speaker mccarthy expand these talks to include things like not building the fbi headquarters and things like that. what has the reaction been? >> look at the reaction has been

strong as you no good morning. most of the american people want us to deal with this debt in this deficit. i knew fbi headquarters that is larger than the pentagon itself is not something the american people support. they know we do not have the money for it but we have agreed to pay the bill. people have never voted for a debt ceiling increase essentially agreeing to saying it's okay to bankrupt the country. we have agreed to pay the bill of the past left this outrageous and unaffordable spending. but what we said is ever going to pay the bill were going to look at what were doing moving forward with do not keep ending up in this position. the way you do that is take a hard look see what you can afford, see what is necessary and make savings and debt savings we have to afford too. cap to make difficult decisions in our family life. government is no different. the democrats in front absolutely nothing to the table

for the senate has not been in, they will come in the middle of next week. as you know the secretaries of the date has moved out. it is interesting how the state keeps moving out to give them more time to try to come to a deal. unless they can pass a bill in the senate, i do not know what they are talking about. we have a bill. if they want to pass something that should pass something otherwise taking from our bill is unacceptable. if they are going to raise the increase of the debt ceiling that week to our built this going to have to be more savings want to reduce that debt ceiling limit we can talk about taking some things off the table by that should be the parameters of any negotiation. neil: only follow-up on that. are you saying with the new demands with features you have now and build the new fbi headquarters a greater border security measures they are determined. are you saying without those it

says note from you and your members on this deal? >> no i'm not saying that. what i am saying is if they were going to add additional increases to the debt ceiling they are going to raise the credit card limit even more we are going to ask for something on the other side of the ledger. it's only appropriate if you asked to borrow more yet to find other places to save it. the american people are sick and tired of this never ending borrowing. by the way, as you know it's leading to horrific inflation and makes it very difficult for families to make ends meet. neil: only follow-up on that, congressman. we heard the broad outlines of the deal include something like a two-year cap on spending that is being negotiated is going to be 2023 at levels as the democrats want 2022 levels. as republicans want too. it will still lift the overall debt by another $4 trillion and get us through that for two years.

argue, regardless of what that is attached to are you for that? are you okay with that? because i would say this i agreed to $1.5 trillion with the things he had in the bill that we passed. they want another more than double that i want to see the savings on the other side. that is what i have not seen. not about spending more money trying to curb this runaway inflation disabled on the side of the ledger 20 problematic. >> are not sent just to be clear, chairman, these other features do or die in a final venture are they? >> neil, you take the agreement and the entire context. got to tell you this this one before trillion dollar raised were going to need to see something on the other side of the ledger. we agreed to 1.5 for things we had on the ledger break you are

going to more than double that my goodness doesn't it sound reasonable to find where else you can save to make up that difference? >> the reason i mention hakeem jeffries he was a democratic leader in the house as you know it said he's open to some trees and spending. but it does not sound like you'd be open to what you just said. >> will look they have not passed anything at the democrats and certainly not the democrats in the senate. and by the way it will have the house, the senate and the presidency they spent trillions upon trillions of dollars as you know. they have to understand they are not in charge anymore in the house. there's not going to be this runaway abject spending like there is no tomorrow. tomorrow is now here. the inflation of high gas prices the out-of-control housing prices are all a reflection of that. republicans are in charge in the house because the american people said we are sick of that we do not want to with it anymore. that despite we are saying you

have to find some places to save money. neil: wrote quickly i'm sorry to keep pushing on the same points, but as the speaker, seeing some of these new wishes in your list said anything? >> he is not said anything to me particularly. but he knows where we stand. this is exactly what speaker pelosi would have done had the shoe been on the other foot. so they are not negotiating, they ate the democrats again have not passed anything. they have not even being in the senate has not committed heavily come to the table making demands they have not shown ability to pass one bill? if you don't like it pass your own bill but if you can't pass your own bill take our bill up and see what happens. neil: bill washable sent all this. congressman. have a safe weekend good to see you again. >> you too god bless you. >> the balance of view from the other side the blue belt coalition member joins us a

group of i would say largely more moderate democrats about nine strong when last i checked. congressman, here just to you. what you think you just heard of scott perry. he added a few more features some would call them demands, what do you think? >> we are all in favor of cutting the budget and places that we can though not affect any pertinent weight the american people. we do not want to put our entire global economy at risk which is what some people on the other side out of dunford we have never defaulted on our debt. we want to make it clear to the world we stand by our desperate we've always guaranteed the full faith and credit. neil: what does that mean that you don't like some of the features he added there. do you think that is extending this needlessly or what? >> have not seen everything he added. as of yesterday the time of cutting simple welfare and other really basic safety net features

we have in this country. i think that is unacceptable not just for democrats but republicans limit many red states were people rely on these resources. neil: the counter you guys are doing the same. lisa present seemed open those working for federal benefits of food eight and the rest. that is a non- negotiating points. but it's not something to entertain, do you feel about that? quick suiting to continue talking through this. let me make this clear. we should not be passing a test that debt limit to anything. neil: but that is where we are. i am just wondering what you are dead set against including this? >> anything that cuts the veterans administration budget that cuts any care for seniors. care for the most impoverished in this country. those are the things on our site

of the aisle but we want to make sure the people struggling the most in america can at least make the bear ends meet spieth that is the only way we can do it. that impacts people in states like mississippi and west virginia and kentucky and many other red republican states they are watching closely at republicans are doing. so clearly we all know we have a spending problem in this country. i think as blue dock within the forefront not our side on watching the budget cuts. i don't think nf never liked joining two bills and holding one hostage for the other. as against my own party when they tried to do that with "build back better". neil: i went to zero in on that congressman, the best that i could figure for the time being is a two-year plan both sides are working on to keep the government operating and keeping the ceiling extended by another 4 trillion. my math would bring strength

35 -- 35 and half trillion dollars for the next two years. that would put a cap on some spending of no more than 2% for the next two years. a lot of that depends what spending we are talking about. whether it is at this year's levels or at last year's levels, where are you on that? >> 2% sounds acceptable. i think it depends where we are making the cuts. those are the issues that are being negotiated now. neil: republicans would say it would place everyday but defense and veterans benefits i believe you're far more astute of this than i am. >> and basic welfare for the poorest americans. i think those areas should be untouchable in both sites should be able to agree on that. neil: are you angry at the presence of your colleagues where he came later realize the magnitude of this until too late the a lot of this could been resolved had he done so?

>> have not defaulted we are still negotiating we are still talking. the proposals we had from the republican side a week or two ago are so far out of reach and so far out of agreement i do not think they came late. i think we should not have to be at that 90-yard line every time we are talking about debt limit. we should not be a day or 24 hours or 72 hours from coming to an agreement every single time. that is something we need to work together as a congress to assure we keep our credit afloat. our credibility afloat. the stability of the dollar globally afloat. and everything else that not only our country relies on but the rest of the world does. neil: you're quite quite right about that. might happen anyway there might be and digging going on avoiding the default as you say, congressman. it's very likely our credit rating could be dinged again as it was in 2011.

in talking about doing that because of the back and forth. how do you feel about that? >> that would be a major irresponsibility from both sides who are negotiating this is allowing our credit to be impacted in any way. obviously i have a huge problem. i always have. neil: there are nine members in your group, sir. i reboot ronald reagan it was moving blue dog democrats back in the day. there were 50. there are not too many moderate democrats. that is might read of that, i could be wrong. is that the case? there are other moderate democrats are not necessary blue dogs. we have new gems of people the problem solvers caucus at her the middle of the road. neil: were saying their spread out. >> i think so yes. neil: they don't like the blue dog name or what? it's a little controversy earlier. i just think at the end of the

day for moderate values you fit into this group and fit into others within the democratic party. we have a wide intent on our side of the aisle. i am somewhere in the middle. neil: i wish you well. you're trying to find middle ground or trying to find an answer here. we'll see where it goes. always good to have you thank you. neil: in the meantime if americans are worried and panicked about this they have a funny way of showing it. they are traveling in record numbers. numbers we have not seen since 2005 it's rather remarkable. charles watson at jackson international airport with more on that. cook say good morning memorial day weekend travel seems to be rebounding quite nicely. it is expected to be a busy holiday weekend for airlines and passengers at airports across the country. things to beat moving pretty well here in atlanta this morning. take a look at the main tsa

security checkpoint. no long lines right now his seat longer lives throughout the duration here this morning. it seems to come in waves. there is a testament to how quickly tsa agents are getting folks through the security checkpoint or deal with a lot of folks is holiday weekend. aaa protecting 3.4 million people will fly this holiday weekend. that has an 11% increase over last her for that include lips of pre-pandemic numbers for the holiday travel is up more than 5% since 2019. tsa says demand has been up all week long with friday expected to the busiest of all travel days. this'll be a test of the system says transportation secretary pete murray judge said the department of transportation has been working with airlines the lasting holidays. ask all of us have airline story from last summer and the instructions it took place then.

cancellation and delay rates were unacceptable proportions last year. it is important that not happen again. >> industry officials are also addressing staffing shortages and have already hired 30,000 additional workers there reducing flights that using bigger planes to increase capacity. that's also treating 3000 air traffic controllers. they are not expected to be ready this summer they are hoping changes thus far will help make this holiday weekend runs smoothly for the airlines and passengers. neil: good number of folks behind to their. thank you very much of charles watson in atlanta on that will be updated going around the country how folks are putting up with this, the lines, the worries, the problems and big step in an airport that us in a bun. that is a crisis right there. in the meantime the latest on the 2024 presidential race. of course tim scott was a new

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let's go to kevin mccarthy pretty speaking right now after coming out of more debt discussions. let's listen. >> large bill.

i watched the former paper to say that the pass it to what's in it. this is the agreement everyone should be able to agree i felt it was wrong that someone would rush or something for a while for the omnibus did no one has a chance to read that this bill will not be thousands of pages. this bill will be anywhere between 150 pages or less it will not be a long bill. but i think 72 hours is important. i want to change the culture. we open the house back up. i hope you feel we have it open with all of you the public can come in here this is the people's house who want to see it. i also want to see the book of the woods work is done i tried to keep people know what's going on but read the product ahead of time that is respect to both sides of the aisle for the democrats i want them to have a full chance and think with republicans. to constituents i want them to know as well. the end of the agreement.

this is the way our founders devised this country. people lend their voice to us. at the end of the day people should suit the product is. >> did they change the negotiations that have a couple extra days? >> i've never felt that. hate to always repeat myself only to the present on febr february 1. will meet pass the bill in april the deadline is way past june. i felt trying to change again to not work by deadlines for produce a bill people to work together on and get it done way before deadlines. too often the house has shifted under the democrats that used a deadline to jam something through it not let people read it. that is not the best form of getting policy. i think having not a deadline

but working through policy early that's owing to the president of a boy first it would've been somewhat easier had he just been willing to meet with me then. you cannot get that time back. you lose the time inability to to sit on this work it took us so long before policy could get into work and that's overdoing. >> do you feel like a deal is imminent? >> i feel closer to an agreement now that i did before because i have seen progress. this is not easy in any shape or form. that does not back us away from it. one thing you've always learned about me, i don't give up. doesn't matter how many times it takes. we want to make sure you get an agreement worthy of the american public for their so many days we hoped we could get something there but if it is not there yet we continue to work to make it right. >> was a disappointment you cannot close a deal last night? >> i do not have a timeline. >> was that important goal? >> note there was no goal but we

will get it when it gets right. i do not want people to use a deadline i will walk you through it make you not be able to get there. in any negotiations don't get tired. be patient. be honest, be upfront where you want to go. and we have from the very beginning, the very first day i have never change what our parameters were. we have to spend less next year than we spent this year or last year. we have to curb inflation. got to make us less dependent upon china. i have laid out the framework there will be no new taxes. the president more in taxes and is not going to happen. we really made a point and how can we curb the debt and make a trajectory we are in a better place. >> figure, what of the remaining hangups? >> we never agree to anything until everything is agreed to.

he worked through a number of different things. everybody has their different positions. one thing i will say from both sides of the aisle, it's always very professional. i was in the room until late last night. people have a difference of opinions and it's very respectful. they state their policy reasons on their debates at why that works in someone else will state another one. i'm then let's look at at a different way and come back know it or both sides are at. how can we achieve both goals? an idea, how can you have a win/win for the american public cosmic that's what we are working for. >> spending cuts is that what remains to be hashed out? >> i'm not going to negotiate from all the different points nothing is agreed to yet. >> and he spoke with senate leaders about how much i'm going to push it through? >> i have spoken to schumer a couple of times a while back time i was trying to calculate

early on. i would calculate sand than they would think it's less. i know the white house has communicated with them. >> you have courted to some degree hakeem jeffries in forging a relationship here. have you talked to him about this so you can figure out how much freight each side has to carry? >> when i became leader i just remembered and i decided from the day i became speaker even before a game speaker i was going to treat hickey the way i wanted to be treated, right? to take the politics out of different things. we know at the end of the data bill is going to come. every single week i try to personally communicate with hakim. i tried to communicate regardless what's going on protect what things of the future, ids at the ideas i having his feedback at the same time. everything here does not have to be political. and i think the place will work better in those spaces. there are times we communicate i

would say when this comes together. he communicated challenges for. >> not just a 24 hours? >> no not in the last 24 hours. if we can come to an agreement the basis of what we are going and the timeline. i have been very upfront. you can work to be timeline if we come to an agreement if and when then we have to post the bill the text of the bill but it's not going to be a thousand page tax. that's not a big omnibus bill no one can read in your jam to the floor we do not do that anymore. the house has the change, the leadership is different. way postville 72 hours and then is when you have the first debate. to everyone on that opportunity. we will be able to talk. i want to be able to brief our members about it as well. if we can ever come to an agreement i will tell you you'll get upset with me and saves all

of the bill. i will politely tell you i'm going to have the respective briefing all of the members first before coming brief all of you. i think it disrespectful they learn about someplace else. >> the timeline to give conservatives more credence to judge the legislation on their responses? what if that is your approach, if your idea is you're going to put a bill on the floor but you do not want anyone to read it you went to pass because they won't like it is probably not a good product. i am not fearful of what is in this bill. from what we have been able to achieve we spend less money to put us on a trajectory. is it everything i wanted questions know it has to be passed by the presence i'm in the senate. they all of america is a much

better than what's happening in the past. not only is this place open again if you can read the bill itself is much better. there is not runaway spending. this actually doing things, repealing amended it's already been spent could be the largest decision history of america. have really talk about common sense from the kitchen table. but they might actually see happening. >> a senator sinema been involved in the talks at all? >> as we walk through this we talked to the white house often. from joe manchin, sinema, others, we gather ideas from them too and were trying to solve a problem. the democrats will say enter democrat to the democrats are policy experts in certain areas we are dealing with. we want take the respect you and talk to them.

i think it's helpful if people have been lending their voice to their policymakers. policymakers should have a say here. try to gather as much information because we try to find a place where we can get to an agreement that's best for america. >> review gives her a full, spineless deal? >> you think you need to get every single member to vote for question i did not get every single member to vote for me for speaker. >> what about the majority? >> can you meet the june fit deadline? >> yes. >> you have an agreement use it if you have an agreement are you confident there will at some point be an agreement? >> yes i feel we can get there really do. i am an optimist. i went to meet with the president when he said he would never meet with me. i kept asking to meet with him he said he would never negotiate. every day at the white house and we will not negotiate we will never negotiate on this but i

watch chuck schumer and george stephanopoulos you just walk still beat note negotiation will be a clean debt ceiling of some optimist. i would pass our bill i was still an optimist. listen we still would not negotiate defense it is not negotiating. i still believe we can get there but what are we doing today? we are negotiating good never give up on the american people and i'm not going too. i'm optimistic because i live in america and we are so blessed to be in this country. we should produce a policy worthy of the american people. >> to get a good concrete vote count the members not here? >> is always more difficult when they are away. we try to keep people as much as we can. but that is why i would ask for all of you pretty get upset with me, i am going to brief members on the whole bill before you all get brief.

you will know if they come to an agreement when. i will try this agreement you will yell a lot of things i'll be very respectful. but i want the members to see all of the bill first. you ask a lot of questions we heard this is an and this is a touching a different position. the membership should be able to see the bill, understand it they should build ask questions and not read about in the paper. and then when the bills drop text you can see it as well. what congressman said hours or days? >> look, i have watched -- this going to come together weeks ago, right? but there are times could there even late at night i watch the weekend before they backtracking on the opposite direction. like any big top negotiation that lives and dies. >> what should that tie right now hours?

>> each day i feel closer and better. >> he won't know it's an agreement? neil: very interesting listening to speaker mccarthy sort of giving an update on where the talk stand he remade the reference to the fact even if they strike a deal he 72 hour. for everyone to read the deal and understand what is in the deal. to understand this and sheriff in town and that's the way we're going to do things. remember that would be three more days had pushed us to the presumed june 5 deadline which at times we are told in the treasury that is only run out of cash. he also made another reference to ultimate goal here to be spending less money next year than we are this year. there is a little bit of a signal and that very month of the debate between republicans and democrats is to free spending. based on spending and what year? democrats say based on this y

year. republicans say laughter. to cap it at a 2% increase in more than a 2% increase to 2022 or 2023 spending levels for given inflation is running at three times higher than that technically no matter what your attached a spending bill would represent a cut and overall spending in real terms here. he likes to make sure whatever you come up with next is less than the shipper whether that was a signal maybe that's me over analyzing. i found that existing sideline. we are going to follow the talks back and forth as you heard the new sort of deadline is june 5 it was june 1 but it is that moving target. they can shuffle things around a lot the government is in the position you or i might be pushed up against the wall going to pay your mortgage, your bills you utility.

they start negotiating what gets paid and how soon it gets paid. the government the big issue right now is to make sure we pay interest to treasury and bondholders. that's the most sacrosanct part of all this. if you skip a payment or are late on a payment that is the technical definition of a default. they do not want to see that. we're following that the political implications of that. he has been found in the presidential contest. he was a former guy going to iran referring to donald trump the former president who he has given money to integrate admirer over the past. i think he is still a great admirer of the president now. but he is setting his sights on rhonda's ancestry see is the better bet. always good to have you, thank you for joining us. where it doesn't i want to eat into your financial backing but certainly money making launch better than a point to million

raise. but he has not been very clear on debt negotiations. do you know whether he shares president trump's abuse that you go ahead and risk default if you have to if you don't get spending concessions out of democrats, where does he stand on that? >> is not made a comment on it. he does not have any say in it. if you look at what is going on that shows the dysfunction in washington. the american people are very upset with republicans and democrats it highlights what got the change as a country. neil: we talked before you went from donald trump to rhonda sanchez. i have kind of asked this more out of interest. we'll see former president's reaction? heat loss to that is a big loss. >> i don't think he was happy about it. he made a public comment from a spokesperson about me no street negative. but i cannot worry about that.

i looked at this and said what that can win the general election in the fall of next year. i think they're only one candidate they can do that and that is governor desantis. i don't think president trump can win it. there's only one that when the primary and the general that is governor desantis. if there's only one candidate view they can do this donald trump can win the property can't win the general point we have to with his next election. we cannot risk to have another for his abiding via disaster. >> the former president is not made a secret of the fact he is not a fan of rhonda sanchez and i don't know what names is called you. he's not a fan of either of you. this is not just go to donald trump. goes to all the cannons in the race looking to get into the race have targeted the florida governor. i want you to react to this this is from the past week take a look. >> what he did with this date you would not do that yourself?

it's aptly not. i do not like the woke is simply to stand up and fight woke is and cancel poultry do not penalize private businesses because they disagree with you politically. >> i do not think ron desantis is a conservative based on his action towards disney. i'll tell you but that's not the guy i was sitting across from president xi and negotiating our next agreement with china sitting across from putin and trying to resolve a topic in ukraine. >> mr. trump said you are fired. >> make america great again. >> make america great again. >> right that's a smattering over the government was in the past versus where he is now. obviously if they are gunning your guy are you worried? >> no pre-they're gunning for him because they know he is the biggest threat. it's interesting that people say he's not conservative. he is probably the most conservative candidate in this

race. in fact there is some concern is too conservative for you got some people saying he's not conservative other things to conservative it prints over the target passing legislation to get things out of florida what everybody else is simply sitting around talking about things. neil: there is a push on the part of republican party operatives that no matter who we get the republican nomination all should support that winter. his ron desantis in the camp that if it is donald trump he will support donald trump? >> yes absolutely. were going to support the republican nominee. that is going to happen. any republican nominee is better than biden. that is where we've got a starting point at and we are all there. neil: donald trump is not extended at the hymn of the others? >> i think donald trump said he would support the nominee. you could not be in the debate if you don't do that. >> is not said that. >> that is unfortunate.

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important to note he met with both republican and democratic staff members. now, he is because the high-profile investigation but he cannot disclose these subjects. however we know via several sources he is tied in with the hundred biden tax investigation. it's a probe that is been underway since 2018. he started on the team in 2020 and says when he spoke up about what he calls quote slow walking by the justice department is taken off the job is calling that retaliation. other than that he cannot say much as he is bound by disclosure rules. remember he is still a special agent with the irs. did say the department of justice is to blame for the way things have been handled. a heated meeting with federal prosecutors last october it was the catalyst for coming forward as a whistleblower, listen. >> it was my redline meeting. had just gotten to that point for that switch was turned on and i cannot silence my conscience anymore progress house judiciary chairman jim

jordan two days ago road attorney general merrick garland quote the department's alleged to move a whistleblower from an ongoing investigation could be a retaliatory action prohibited under united states law. the department of justice declined to comment on the letter from congressman jordan and the allegations of the majority of those allegations are still unknown. remember, there's a second whistleblower that came forth late last week who worked under him. he too says he was removed from his position. his identity is not yet public. neil: thank you for that comment david of the justice department. remember it went montana said no more tiktok in our state. didn't take long for it tiktok to say we are suing you over that. they are not dancing around the subject received a did there? they are not dancing okay it's a saturday without which right after this. ♪ ♪

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tiktok claim about the unconstitutionality of the law part very strong prayer would expect they would prevail here. neil: obviously they recognize their legal case they say young people in this country for whom tiktok is very popular. they are not too keen on the government efforts to crack d down. where do you think this ultimately goes? >> it is interesting. this case deals with state law. a lot of tiktok arguments are the state does not have the power to make some of these limitations. but that does not mrs. wood pertained to the federal government which has much more broad power to adjudicate interstate commerce medicine things like that. so it certainly tiktok could still be on the chopping block. i do not think this forum and the montana legislature is the way it's going to get there. obviously i do not think it's enforceable law anyway. but federally speaking a really still could be on the chopping block certainly. >> is one thing to say we ban it

tiktok it's quite another to make it inaccessible to people who have it now or want to get it, right? >> rate. the realistic practicality of enforcing something like this is very difficult as well. there are significant free-speech issues. i think there are some other proposals in place to potentially have an american owner. i think there are other looking into the axis china has specifically what information that they are looking into if any bird that was a big part of a problem with the lawsuit initially as a state of montana of these allegations that have not performed evidence there happening for a lot of that stuff has to be hashed out. certainly it's important. >> got a printer at katy thank you. following this develop it's real quickly i don't often take a quick peek outside the speaker's office in washington a lot of tour going past that area here. we are watching in case any big

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