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>> we learned a lot less minute of the show pretext i cannot believe that actually works that's stethoscope on that tiny little body. i will see it next week. actually see you tomorrow but that is how fox reports on this saturday may 27, 2023. i am jon scott thank you for watching. we'll see you and adam tomorrow. ♪ the five. ♪ >> irs whistleblower showing his face to say the republicans hunter is a disgrace. fourteen year veteran
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joe biden's d.o.j. >> when i could to control of his investigation, i immediately saw it was outside the norm of what i experienced in the past. there was multiple steps that were slow walk at the direction of the department of justice. >> had you ever encountered that before? >> i have not. deviations each and every time it seemed to always benefit the subject. it just got to where the switch was turned on and i couldn't silence my conscience anymore. >> being slow walk, it's taken five years for the irs to look in to hunter's potential tax crimes in the shady income he earned overseas while pops was peep. the first-hand account of prefrontal treatment days of the ag saying under oath. >> we will commit the investigation will examine the
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public corruption aspect and not simply scapegoat? hunter biden as an individual? >> i can't comment about the investigation of glidden to say matters involving hunter biden are in the purview of u.s. attorney in delaware. not restricted in the investigation in any way. >> the hunter saga doesn't end there, james, will meet with christopher wray after the bureau refused to produce documents on biden family in income. >> one of the most serious charges, accusations ever made against any public official in the history of the united states and the fact that the fbi keeps brushing us off and saying just trust us, it's not going to cut it so we had to go to extreme measures. i already subpoenaed director right for this and they turned their nose over there so now we are going to the next step. >> laid out, what does it mean? will this explode?
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's. >> i knew you were going to use watergate. the durham report, it just went along its merry way. if anyone thinks it's easy for the whistleblower weather in the irs or fbi to come out and subject themselves to this literally, they could destroy their career, family, livelihood. we saw it with the fbi whistleblower who moved out of state, you're going on unpaid leave. it makes sense because no case should take more than five years and grand jury and it's almost going on six years with hunter biden shifts the crimes are complete in terms of the evidence we have especially as it relates to tax evasion, two and half million payback as it relates to the permit application but here's the thing. merrick garland says i'm not doing anything and this is trump
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appointed united states attorney but the truth is before trump i think it was obama, he's been there a long time, i don't know him had any idea about any of these attorneys but the thing is there's no consequence. if the party in power is the party against whom the complaints are being made and where the whistleblowers are coming out whether fbi, irs or the stenographer in, obama's stenographer who claim plaintiff up ties to burisma and vice president biden, nothing will happen if you don't have d.o.j., the department of justice, if he can sit there and push back, nothing will happen and what it does is add more and more to the belief there are two systems of justice. >> harold in the green room said to me how impressed you were on cbs and this could be unimaginably worse than anything we've ever seen you invited me
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over for dinner this weekend. [laughter] care to comment on either or both? >> i invited you over for di dinner. the first part i'm trying to reconstruct my memory about. good to be back. two things -- the judge is right, whistleblowers should always be protected, the processes they go through are different than perhaps other agencies. if indeed what the whistleblower is alleging is true and this has been a slow walk after today, it will not be slow walk any longer. i do believe the curiosity around why it's taking so long. i am fatigued by this investigation. if there's something there and hunter has to -- hunter biden as a defendant would have to face him, he's not the defendant because he's not been charged. we almost feel like he has and i think the american public feels he has because of the things
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said but i think after today and i've read in the articles i think i got the same background materials you got this time. [laughter] the whistleblowers to testify privately with the ways and means committee, tax committee and congress tomorrow and i hope democrats participate in republicans as well and if there's something here if this gentleman is telling the truth i would agree when you come forward, this is a lot of risk you're taking, we -- they should bring mr. garland back before the committee and ask, how do you counter this and perhaps do it in private but it deserves a private answer. >> you are still invited. >> i agree we should lock up merrick garland. there was something, we are all saying the same thing, where are they going to find something? apparently they found something but chose not to pursue it. >> i'll get to the five years later but first, i will do what the democrats did when there was a whistleblower for donald tr
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trump, i found him audible, i found him nonpartisan, he spoke to the issue, i don't know where he stands on the political aisld the last time. he talks about fatigue. we could litigate this before the election but they realize how it would impact, 79% of americans say would have changed their vote is on the information we know now. if you look at the headlines from the democratic party, the only thing they're talking about right now is a quote from james comber saying joe biden is plummeting in the polling so they got all of these intelligence officials to sign on to a letter they knew was not true, even verified the information to say this
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information was russian disinformation, it benefits the candidate, democrats are tired of this but the time to have the debate was during the election, the press could have dug in and could have talked to the fbi, cia, they would have if it was donald trump. i think this is the first time seen republicans and a long time fight on the issue. i think comber has something but again, the process take place. they've only been in the how many months? give them their due. at least they are not making allegations unfounded. >> they start investigating hunter during trump time, it's not as if it just started because i hear you have every right to say what you said but this has been going on for three years even under president tr trump. >> obama's people said biden and his son should be involved in this stuff overseas so it started with obama. >> that wasn't investigation
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without power -- >> that's not true. >> that is true. >> u.s. attorney was investigated, subpoena power, you know that, judge. >> in your face, judge dana, i've been sitting here eight, almost nine minutes waiting for an analogy. >> i'll give you one in a moment but one thing, fatigue is the goal. that's the goal of slow walking so everyone is like having we heard enough of this? can't we move on? >> biden is the presidency of slow walking. >> you have to. >> usually the wrong direction. >> comber is like an air traffic controller, a lot of planes in the air, a holding pattern and passengers are getting irritated because in order for any of this to have an impact, they have to land the planes and maybe they will be able to but i think the fatigue issue is real and hard
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to keep up with it. this report and that report in this investigation, probably because nothing ever seems to be salt or the durham report comes out against swept under the rug and we are supposed to move on. >> swept under the rug and replace ceiling controversy. how did that become the biggest story, debt ceiling? >> also something interesting last night breaking news on fox, they requested the document in the fbi director says i want a meeting with comer as if it you start the process. that may be part of the issue, the fatigue but we have not elected officials acting their elected officials try to stonewall congress. >> you think? >> we got to move on. coming up, ron desantis getting into the race can he take on donald trump?
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his first interview as a presidential candidate. >> we know the country is on the wrong track, we see it with our eyes and feel it in our bones. we see the border being overrun and crime infesting the cities. we seek federal government making it more difficult for families to make ends meet. what i will do is help restore normalcy to our communities, integrity to our institutions and sanity to our society. truth needs to be the foundation of everything we do and common sense can no longer be an uncommon virtue. >> desantis is going toe to toe with former president trump but new fox news poll shows trump still has a commanding lead for the gop nomination. florida governor is facing a hostile media but not too thrilled about his candidacy. >> it's a mess. >> just get out of the race, you're not going to win. nothing is going to happen we met i think he has a great chance at becoming the president of florida but outside of florida, these are really
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unpopular. >> and unbelievable miscalculation from the beginning, it was wrong and execution was a disaster. >> it was bad on so many fronts. >> in hindsight, does desantis get any credit for trying to do something unusual? is it a situation or should he just have done a rally or a video? >> you got to do new things, politicians sound the same and which is amplify the story. i wouldn't have even known if i hadn't heard it was screwed up but i've been on this earth a long time, at least three decades or four, every republican candidate is always worse than the one before so ronald reagan was hitler, then bush, worse than hitler and another bush, worse than worse than hitler and then mccain blizzard hitler, romney misogynist animal torture hitler and then trump, he's really worse than hitler and now according to cnn, desantis is
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worse than trump making him worse than worse than hitler so as long as we have this brand of demonization by the democrats and media, he would never have a candidate that trump minus the drama because there always going to create the drama on top of everybody, vanity fair articles desantis white supremacist, they tell people is recess don't go to florida, a threat to your personal safety. this is something about governor desantis who looks like a nerdy version of bradley cooper. let's be honest, he's not a threat but the networks will get a quandary especially cnn, they are already in trouble. if you don't say desantis is as dangerous as trump, it's an endorsement for desantis so if you say he's worse than trump then you look like a -- you been pumping out hysteria trump was an existential threat and now you find a new existential threat is worse.
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people already see through this, i can't last forever. i don't know. >> but the truth is that trump hatred lasted forever but at the same time trump still has the highest numbers, biggest number and the people with trump are doug and with trump so is this really about biden running against desantis, opposed to biden running against trump? as does it come down to whether they trump hate trump more or desantis has a chance to catch up and be as big as trump against biden? does that make any sense? >> i'll always understand what you say in my take is desantis six, eight weeks ago was a stronger candidate than desantis today largely because of the last eight weeks donald trump's numbers have grown in his numbers trump so he remains a formidable runner republican side. i agree with greg, i think a lot
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of people would never have known he announced with vast majority of americans not told he had a glitch with twitter. that being said i'm old school. when you run for office particularly president, visuals are important particularly for a candidate who many sites might have difficulty interacting with people he may have some views that may not be consistent with national mainstream news, i would think you'd want a visual and that people like you and see the something appealing, a good-looking guy. compared to bradley cooper is a great thing to lay out views and your past. it gives him an opportunity to say i want to debate you, i would have and my mulch speech and facet they understand you do want to debate me, perhaps because my ideas are superior but whatever the case i hope debate me and i think he nailed it today in the "wall street journal", i don't know if i agree but i think he's smart, i think we are seeing a battle set
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up in the republican primary between the tim scott of politics, can link it to megan and those not. i'm not saying donald trump is not sunny but his approach to campaigning is different and sometimes punishing so we will see. >> we you announce on the five? the honest. >> that would be new and different. >> make it traditional. >> we had a glitch. [laughter] >> i am the glitch. >> fox news last night, desantis talked about things like policy, the border and crime and inflation. how did those points compared to the value pointing of local ideology? >> a great question. i think one of the things he's demonstrated now that people seem more on the interview trey did is a policy with heavy complete competence and an example for everything he's talking about and doesn't
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hesitate and he knows his stuff so if that's what you're looking for, it's interesting for people. maybe it wasn't right but i'm thinking about elon musk, he's willing job to billion dollar rocket blowup as an experiment just to see what we could learn so one thing they did was find out twitter's base needs more work. maybe i will split hairs but let me do it for the perspective. last night was an announcement ron desantis is running for president. his campaign office is billing next tuesday in iowa as the campaign kickoff event and that's where i think you will see more of the tradition that you are mentioning. i think some lunches are memorable, most are not. let me tell you one that's memorable. kamala harris. amazing watch. remember the people there? even president trump said a good chance, the first one to drop
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out so it doesn't matter, it's what happens after that. one of the things that's a challenge and opportunity for ron desantis is a lot of misconception out there amongst people, i heard somebody today say isn't he advancing racist policies is and he against gay people? isn't he banning the books? i started to explain on their behalf and i thought that's not my job, that's his job and he's got a big one in front of him. >> he does have a big job but biden's numbers are in the 3 30s. kamala, talk about falling out, she's even below that. how is it that biden is so strong against republicans? what is that about? >> i don't think he's strong. i think he had his shot, 52% of americans felt under donald trump that their lives were
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better and chose joe biden because they wanted to bring down the temperature and was supposed to be the elder statement and other nonsense, that's over. we've seen how he governed, he didn't unify the country, life is not better under him and it's easy to vote based on emotion when life is good for you. now people are losing busi businesses, egg prices going up which is why as i travel the country, the republican base -- i think people discount them so much but they are not moving. they are not moving and they want of fire as well. he didn't do that last night, it was boring, down and reading off the paper. i can tell because his cadence trade, he had a little bit of emotion. >> if you want to take on the
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leader of the republican pa party -- i'll tell you, there's a reason -- people aren't afraid of donald trump in washington, they are afraid of his voters, they know the way he's able to gravitate because he's the first one that bypass typical washington step and listen to them. desantis, if he still up typical politician and he showed that last night and if he wants to take on donald trump, you have to change the strategy. i know all of them, it's not going to help you, there's a lot of people who are polished -- ted cruz was known as a firebrand conservatism and puts the policy debate out there. knows the constitution by heart. you got rand paul, which inherited a political family that knows all the things to do and still did not work so if
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the road leaders getting a front row seat to the city's dk. san francisco's mayor of the city's board of supervisors and to have a meeting and part of town known to be open air drug market. this to bring attention to problems plaguing the area like searching fentanyl overdoses but things quickly got out of hand. >> you have a drug problem. you pull down the navigation center.
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>> the fact is, i'm not sure without listening to the public that this is going to be the right form to be able to answer your question thoroughly. [chanting] >> the man in the team got heckled offstage and were forced to seek shelter inside while police arrested a woman who hurled a brick that nearly hit a child. san francisco problems keep getting worse from there, newly released report finding nearly half the city's commercial sidewalks were covered human feces so greg -- >> you came to me first because of the feces story. the door on this one. when something is that they say it's in the toilet, this city is not in the toilet, it's all over the place. it's like the worst bathroom and worst dive bar and worst section of town, you walk into the
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bathroom and wonder, how did they get it on the ceiling? this is incredible, that's the thing, if you watch san francisco dk so fast, it reminds me of before and after pictures of the person becoming crystal meth head. those are all over the internet like before a beautiful young woman and after, toothless. a once beautiful person descending into a debilitating drug habit. it's -- i grew up in the bay area, they are having the super bowl in 2026 i guess, levi stadium, 40 miles from san francisco but it will be san francisco 49ers super bowl whatever but they can't have it there. how disgusting it is. >> you were the last week, what was it like? >> i believe so. my dog travels with me everywhere and i couldn't let her walk out there, it was disgusting. the one thing that was so sad because i was there the whole day, i saw the progression. i saw them getting high openly,
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crops around but they are told they not supposed to do anything, just make sure no violence happens and then the middle of the day i saw when they started to turn into zombies, literally. i saw people with needles hanging out of their arm and for the life of me, i don't understand how that is compassionate. i saw people passing out cell phones and got three meals a day and delivered and this has become the new normal. we showed footage of the mayor there will she was able to be shielded and brought back into city hall. the people who live there on the day to day basis to walk through there, they don't get shielded. they step over the needles, they step over the human feces and they have to deal with violent people. we are talking with people they try not to look them in the eyes because that's what they tell
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you to do, keep your head down and don't look them in the eyes kind of like slavery days. you can't look at them so you can't look them in the eye and they still attack you and that's the only way you can get the cops to come out and sometimes it's too late. >> listen to michael shellenberger on the he was on earlier today. >> they don't understand how bad the situation is on the street, these are folks who don't go downtown anymore. you go to san francisco's downtown right now and it's like a zombie apocalypse. >> these are not exaggerations, these are people who visited, lived there and they're saying this is what it's like. >> this didn't happen overnight. this is the result of democrats, gavin newsom was a mayor in san francisco and now the governor in california. the one before her was a democrat, they are like all of this free love and free drugs and open air drug markets, there's only one thing that will
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change that and that is law & order. until you have law and order, you can't do anything. you can bring people to clean it up to make it look good for the cameras but can never resolve this situation and compassion is telling people. we spend so much money on drug addiction treatment, it's great, disease, a horrible thing but you can't -- excuse me, if you can't get them in treatment, put them in jail six months and let them detox. >> a lot of their family members want that. >> that's what i would do, that's the only answer. people underestimate, they cannot comprehend the importance of law & order and consequences. cleaning up for the cameras is a bunch of nonsense. >> investments in these cities is clean, william seminoma is leaving, there's nowhere, no reason to go there is not going
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to be any shopping. >> the disinvestment hurts not only the investment you're talking about for jobs to be created but you lose your tax base so schools continue to worsen but whatever we want to call this and i'll go along, a liberal experiment, it failed and the political leadership in any city has to recognize and accept that if you can't take the icing on the cake or whatever -- i believe it was today, something is wrong. i think politics at its best, you have a set of ideas when elected and you run on them and try to implement them but they don't work, the mature and smart thing to do is have search and say will change not because i'm wrong but my ideas are not working. we need politicians on both sides and i would agree to some extent this is an experiment largely administered by democrat but the reality is, it should just change and stores are
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closing, homelessness is out of control, crime is out of control. talk about being fearful of not only for yourself but pets, it's a challenge that needs to be addressed and i would hope the mayor and others in california would realize is not just about an electoral challenge, it's about humanity and people challenge. i heard tyrus yesterday i think on another show talk about how we fail the people when it comes to this debt ceiling, we are failing people when we don't accept the fact that some ideas are not working regardless of where you sit politically and begin the to do the things that work. >> let san francisco be a warning to other places. next, a machete professor who got arrested, she says she's the victim after putting a knife to someone's throat. ♪
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a machete to a reporter's neck, now crying victimhood after being arrested. rodriguez went viral after hurling fell off at pro-life students. then threatened to chop up a reporter with a machete. ownership of the new york post, she lost her job but complained the school has capitulated to racist white nationalist and the socialist. greg. >> yes. >> she went out to a man with a knife, she should have been arrested on the spot. she did turn herself in but it was racist to arrest her. >> it's hard for me to sit here and listen to you say these things about this woman. clearly she is a victim. anybody who objects to somebody trying to kill you with a machete has to be a bad evil racist. from now on you must embrace any
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machete wielding person or you are the machete phobia. we as a society, we have to denigrate citizens while holding up people who try to harm you whether it criminals being recast, victims and in this case her, look at her and you read about her and realize she's getting away with it forever. for so long and why? she's terrified people. how? she exploits nice, scared cowardly white folks who don't want to appear racist and they don't want to cross her, that's for sure but crossed a line. that wasn't on tape, this would never have been a problem. you needed to get her actions on tape and why does she need a machete? she said we don't need police, we don't need police so is the machete for protection?
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was she protecting herself from? large cucumbers? i don't know. what do you use a machete for? >> this started because of free speech. 19% of college students thinks it's okay to use violence against controversial speech. >> she only got arrested after she used a machete or fire, fired after she used the machete against the reporter. i think she should have been fired when she was walked by peacefully, peaceful students, not even protesting, they have pamphlets and brochures for information for you can see there, she yelled abusive language, is this the kind of professor you want around your students? i would have fired her for that but she used the language because her union is back in europe and will probably figure out a way to stay in the system somehow but are being arrested might help her end up with a podcast. >> she's still employed at another college. they are reviewing the situ
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situation. >> and may not be allowed to review after what we are looking at. she has mental health challenges and i hope she gets the help she may need. i'm one who believes is a powerful important characteristic of enduring democracy and we talked about it and i agree with things, we've covered stories, we can't coddle this. if you have students peacefully projecting views you disagree with whether you are a professor or student, you have no right to behave like that and you would fire her from this job and another job but because of her views but the way she behaved yourself i hope she gets the help she needs and no student has to be around that. >> here's the thing, why is it that when every somebody does something we can't comprehend, they have mental problems. no, maybe they are just evil and
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i love the way you say dissent is an endearing part of our democracy, it is important. prosecution is more in enduring part of our democracy so people like that with machetes not only are not able to put it up to your next, chase you out of the building, chase you down the street saying i'm going to chop you up and kick them in the shin and by the way, for the kids who acknowledge, this is a problem with people on the right, too polite. don't let somebody tell you you can't say this or that -- you can go back at her, she has no right to damage pamphlets so she isn't just terrifying people, she's a bully, i'd like to know how she was arrested in the first place. she's already suing the police. she's already suing the police and has a tattoo -- i'm not finished a tattoo on her hand that says that the police. >> she was behind a group going
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police in london are seeing tik tok prankster who saw viral fame walking into strangers homes. he's apologized but didn't seem to make light of the situation while talking to pierce morgan. >> what is motivating you to terrorize people where you live? >> wouldn't call it terrorizing, just having fun. hate brings money, hate speech fears, it is a matter, hate still brings views. it's just easier to do. >> the british accent, it's amazing. in light of this, is this something we should coddle, should we prosecute? >> this goes into my theory most of the show tonight, the kid is not afraid of anybody and he was
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mocking and admitting lack of consequence literally is no deterrent so committing crime makes clicks. make no mistake, it's a violation for the homeowner. that is a frightening thing and in the end we shouldn't even be covering it because it gets more clicks from us, too. >> would you cover this? >> i did this yesterday in my monologue because i think it's another example of people learning from disincentives. they know they can exploit the terrified meek citizens and make toothless laws as well so what you're seeing right now is pushing civil society to the edge and too far until -- he did a lot worse than that, he trained women, he stole a dog, he's been an awful punk. he will keep doing that until somebody stops him and then we are going to do the story for
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the right way -- but he's just a victim when somebody shoots him because he was in the house and somebody beat him, exactly with daniel penny, no police were there, there's a vacuum. there's a vacuum here. >> ten seconds. >> i wish somebody would bring him to the side and tell him he's going down the path where he may lose his life. i actually care about him, i don't want him to die like that, i think he thinks it's a joke but it's not. it shows you social media has become such a thing, people want to be social media famous so b bad. >> he's lucky he's not in america partly because in britain right now, peter's telling me about these stories, let's say your house gets robbed. guess what they do -- they say tally up and call your insurance. they do not send police, they do not have enough police so he will not get in trouble but if he didn't hear, there would consequences for it. >> especially in texas. >> note to self, watch greg's
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greg: i make my own hot pockets. lawrence: check ljcrosscountry. greg: that's it for us. [♪♪] brian: welcome to "one nation." i'm brian kilmeade. tonight we have a special show. it's the best of "news duel." for those who watch every week you know what "news duel" is. we get fox personalities or a friend of the show and we have some fun. but first it is in fact memorial day.
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