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♪ [national anthem] ♪ ♪ rachel: good morning, everybody. it's 6:00 a.m. here in new york city on a beautiful memorial day weekend, and i'm so happy to be joined by my friends will cain and joey jones. good morning. will: good morning. that was the navy's national anthem -- the national anthem

performed by the navy's northeast ceremonial band, they were with us yesterday -- rachel: they were so good, we had to keep them. joey: it was the navy's national anthem, it's everybody's national anthem -- the. [laughter] rachel: air force and america. yeah. so it's great to be back, and it has been beautiful. i spent time laying out with my family by the pool. will: you did? [laughter] rachel: yesterday. just getting an early start to the memorial day celebration. joey: i guess most americans are probably their second, third day into their memorial day weekend, working for me means i get to share stories and talk about the people that matter so much to me, so honestly i don't think there is a more appropriate way for someone like me to the spend memorial day weekend, and by that measure, i'm really excited. rachel: good. well, let's get started. president biden and republican leaders coming to the a tentative deal to lift the debt ceiling last night after lengthy

negotiations. will: house speaker kevin mccarthy calling the deal worthy of the american people. joey: marian rafferty has the details. >> reporter: good morning. president biden and speaker mccarthy coming to the that tentative agreement last night, ending a months-long battle between house are republicans and the white house. >> is i just got off the phone with the president, i talked to to him twice today. and after weeks of negotiations, we have come to the an agreement in principle. we still have a lot of work to do, but i believe this is an agreement in principle that's worthy of the american people. i expect to finish the writing of the bill, checking with the white house and speaking to the president again tomorrow afternoon. >> reporter: the president saying the agreement represents a compromise which means not everyone gets what they want. that's responsibility of governing. i strongly urge both chambers to the pass the agreement right away. the deal reportedly includes no new taxes, no new government programs and strengthens welfare work requirements while also clawing back $29 billion from

un-- in unspent covid funds and rescinds $1.9 billion out of $80 billion in new funding percent irs. members of the house are expected to vote on the bill as early as wednesday or thursday. if the bill is passed, it will then head to the senate for a vote. the president and lawmakers have just nine days to passes the bill and get it signed into law or risk debt default after treasury secretary janet yellen pushed the deadline back to june 5th. and reporters were treated to chipotle last night by speaker mccarthy after putting in long hours to cover negotiation. the full text of the bill will be released later today. back to you. will: thank you. rachel: thank you. well, you know, i mean, the republicans have been trying to get the deal, you know, going. they seem to be bragging that it's okay. there's a few dissenters who say it's not enough because, of course, we increased spending by, like, $2 trillion just in the last couple years. but it claws back $29 billion in

unspent covid money, as she said, $1.9 billion for the irs, that was manager that the democrats really, of course, wanted to fund and and now that won't be there. it streamlines energy and infrastructure projects and also student loan payments are going to to the commence in 60 days, so they're going to lift that stay on those payments that was done, apparently, because of covid. joey: so democrats always have the upper hand when it comes to spending. they always do because if republicans don't want to grow spending at all and democrats want a billion more, they'll ask for 3 billion, then the compromise goes to where they want. if the republicans are at zero or negative, democrats always have the upper hand in negotiating. understanding you only have the house, you don't have the white house, and the senate a little bit less important in this type of negotiation. i don't know what the dissenting republicans in actuality want other than to the stand on principle and say probably behind closed doors this is a

really good job by kevin mccarthy, however, in principle i can't vote for it. and i think that's probably where a lot of them are because i don't know what in actuality they thought they would get beyond this. i'm looking at every single talking point, students loans, we herald garrett grave requests yesterday saying, hell no, to student loan forgiveness. h.r. 1, the idea that this administration is going to the relinquish allowing energy products, projects to be streamlined, and then no new taxes, no new government programs. i'm sure some of these numbers, like only 29 billion in covid, only 1.9 billion in irs, i'm sure some of those numbers republicans thought they could get higher. but for a president who said he was going to get a clean bill, looks like a win for me. maybe there's a lot more devil in the details -- rachel: there probably is. joey: i'm sure there are. will: in addition to to the list you just gave, joey, i know they made a big deal on work requirements on increased welfare payments, and

republicans did seem to win on many of hair talking points. i think for those that dissent, congressman dan bishop, senator mike lee who said, you know, a winning strategy is not punting when you're sitting on your opponent's 1-yard line. you don't punt at the 1-yard line, that's not how you win. the implication republicans do have the leverage because they control the house, and joe biden would take the blame for a failure on the debt ceiling. he needs a deal. and in that context, $1.9 billion on the irs funding isn't much when the democrats get $781 billion to fund this -- 78.1 billion. i will say, like you, i don't know what's accomplishable, i'm not in those negotiations. if they were actually sitting on the 1-yard line -- dis. joey: and that's the misnomer there. will: but i will say this, that it is always a loss for those who think we are spending way too much money and we are headed towards fiscal oblivion at some point. and it's weird when we're

sitting here today living with the consequences of entirely too much spending. you wonder why things cost more, why there's inflation? this is why. rachel: right. well, speaking of inflation, one of the things that the republicans wanted to do was sort of roll back the inflation reduction bill which was really -- [laughter] that never happened at all. and so you're right, i mean, all of these are negotiations about slowing the growth. will: correct. rachel: of spending. none of it are actual really cutting spending the way it needs to be done in order to get our house in order. and the same way that you get your own family's house in order financially. none of that's happening. so, you know, it's a win for mccarthy, i think you're right, but it's a loss for america because this is an unsustainable path, this printing and spending. just look to latin america. it doesn't end well. and i don't know how long we can keep doing this. will: meanwhile, while it's memorial day weekend, vice

president kamala harris gave the commencement addressed at west point. she talked about some of the threats facing america, facing the world. she happened to leave out one of the biggest issues in foreign policy over the course of the biden administration. watch. >> the threat of terrorism persists, and an accelerating climate crisis continues to disrupt lives and livelihoods. all a threat to global stability and security. our military is strongest when it pulley reflects -- fully reflects the people of america. since your first day on campus the world has drastically changed. america ended our longest war, and russia launched the first major ground war in europe since world war ii. you graduate into an increasingly unis settled

world -- unsettled world where longstanding principles are at risk. rachel: yeah. i don't know, i'll tell you what's at risk is nuclear war, because i've never heard that word mentioned since i was a child in the '80s, and we've been hearing it a lot, that we're on the precipice of that and no thanks to this administration which did nothing to the make sure that the war in ukraine, between ukraine and russia didn't start and has actually interfered in many ways with many of the attempts at a peace negotiation. so it is a very courageous time. tammy bruce was talking last night on "the big saturday show" about the problems the military's having in recruitment. listen. >> we know how to do things. the military knows how to do things when they're allowed to do the things they need to do. and, you know, so the wokeness is part of the problem. it's not just, you know, what we need on the field, but it's about recruitment in general as

well. people, the recruitment numbers are horribly down. you've got people looking at, well, who's the commander in chief, who is the vice president, and it's like virtue signaling. it's still stuck in virtue signal, and that then reverberates to all those -- thank god that they're at west point and that they made their commitment. but, of course, people are concerned about the military the, the brass, what young people like that are being taught and what the impact will be when they're really needed to have to deliver. joey: yeah. listen, the recruitment problem is something we've dealt with or have seen coming for more than a decade. this doesn't hang around one add administration's neck, it's not just woke culture. it's the detier deterioration of american culture. the idea that we spent 20 the years waging a war that we couldn't explain to the those fighting it what their goals were. every administration since george w. bush has a responsibility and a little bit of blame on what's going on with our military right now to say this is all because of woke

politics is to have not paid attention for the last -- rachel: i know, joey, i hate arguing with you on that, but i will say that i personally know even in some inside my family, young men who say i don't want -- they were ready to go into the navy seals -- joey: and those same young men have been influenced by tiktok culture concern. rachel: no, no, what i'm saying -- joey: -- our country that doesn't pride or prop up serving your country, and that has been a problem for a really long time. rachel: well, the young man i'm talking about in particular, and there are multiple that i know, is a very patriotic young man who wanted to serve both in the military and and even the fbi and says i don't think i can advance with the principles that i hold in this organization anymore because this, the military and some of the, you know, the fbi, for example, are signaling that they don't want people with that kind of ideology. joey: i didn't know who the patrollic the -- politics of

george w. bush were when i joined the marine corps. rachel: exactly. that's exactly the point. joey: i agree with you. rachel: all right. will: meanwhile, target, they've been under fire for, first of all, the pride display which was just in the past week, and people, you know, wonder why is this sitting next to kids' section, so forth. well, there's a new thing it's called glisten. target's in partnership with this group, glisten, who is advocating for some pretty eye-opening policies in school districts; that is, they want to push some of books that we've talked about into school districts. they want to make sure that parents don't know about it when a kid is going to come out, teachers keep that a secret from their families. this is an example of some of the guidance that economiesen is giving to school districts, the local education agencies shall insure that all personally identifiable information related to nonbinary students is kept confidential. staff the or educators may not

reveal information that reveals a student's gender to others. this disclosure must be discussed with the student prior to any action. so that's economiesen's guidance to -- glisten's guy dance to school districts about keeping it a secret there families what's happening if a kid is transitioning at school. rachel: that's right. and target has given millions of dollars for this organization for a long period of time. you brought with it up, joey, yesterday. it's not a secret that target is a processive -- progressive company. they've been that way, they've been on the forefront of many of these issues for a long time. also there isn't an executive target who sits on board of the -- [laughter] that's a big area of deep relationship that they have, and so not a surprise that, target gave a statement, glisten leads the the movement in creating affirming and anti-racist spaces for lgbtq a+ students. we are proud of 10 years of collaboration with economiesen, and we continue to support their

mission. meanwhile, there's an actress the who was in the "twilight" series, and she has what she say is the is a nonbinary 7-year-old who she is worried might not feel welcome at target now that target, i guess, has moved some of the product around so it's not front and center, moved it to the back especially in the south where people maybe don't agree with some of these values. and i think that is what target is going to be facing, you know? do they double down on hair progressive -- their progressive, forward-leaning lgbtq ia, but i think what really has gotten people in an uproar is that they've partneredded not just with glisten, but with a man who makes fashion clothes who is a self-identified trans satan theist. i mean, i don't know if we can keep moving the ball, the goalposts any further than that. joey: let's go back to this actress with the hard to

pronounce name here. [laughter] how stupid of a comment is that? because you don't roll out a welcome mat, put a banner above the store and a red carpet saying, hey, if you don't know if you're a boy or a girl, you're welcome here? now the inverse is you're not welcome here? i don't know. i don't see welcome marine signs at every target. that doesn't make me feel like i'm not welcome. i don't see welcome handicapped persons, doesn't mean i'm not welcome there. the idea that the inverse of getting exactly what you want means that you're not welcome, that's spoiled. that is self-importance. matter of fact, whats the is it's disingenuous grandstanding for a political point that most -- and when i say most, i mean a vast majority of americans -- can really don't even understand what you're so upset about. rachel: she ended the statement saying you can do much better than this, target. we aren't supposed to negotiate with thes. back to what we -- the terrorists. back to what we talked about yesterday, the use of terrorists. [laughter] listen to what she said here.

>> walk into target and right behind me, lovely swim suits. that's where the pride display used to be. i came in here two days ago, and my 7-year-old who's nonbinary saw it and said, look, mom, it's pride, look. they're going to celebrate me. so the next time my 7-year-old comes to target -- or, rather, i can't bring them here anymore, at least the entire month of june, because if they walk in and all the other people who walk in and go, where'd it go? they're going to realize that they are being successful in trying to erase them. we can do so much better than this. we're not supposed to negotiate with terrorists. rachel: this is so crazy. will: none of that's real. joey: yeah. that's exactly right. [laughter] will: the 7-year-old's nonbinary. rachel: i agree. will: the 7-year-old's not nonbinary, also didn't walk into

target going, they're celebrating me. none of it happened, none of it's real, all of it's the creation of an actress who is a paid pretender. [laughter] she helped cultivate the idea that the 7-year-old was nonbinary, then this idea that they're celebrating 7-year-old -- it's just not real. it's just all not real. and, yeah, we -- this idea, we have one day a year, to the eye this into some conversations you guys were having, one day a year we celebrate veterans. we have a month now that we celebrate pride -- joey: and that month hasn't started, by the way. will: hasn't even started yet. joey: on memorial day you're putting videos online lying about your 7-year-old because you deserve something more than men and women laying in the ground, 20-year-olds -- i'm not mad, i'm disappointed. i haven't been in a target the, i don't immediate to go to

argument. i'll get my sufficient at wal-mart or the dollar the general. that's just who i am, that's okay. maybe they do have some american flags, but if you're upset that the june pride month hasn't started on memorial day weekend, you you don't get it. rachel: all right. we're just going to leave it right there. [laughter] all right. sill ahead, the biden administration is worried about a.i. spying on teachers. our next guest says if teachers are educating instead of indoctrinating, they should have nothing to hide. joey: plus, watch out for sharks. they got me one time. how to stay safe at the beach this holiday weekend. but first, here's the navy band's northeast brass quartet performing "american patrol" on the fox square. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

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could be -- a.i. could be used to spy on teachers in classrooms. quote, when we enable a voice assistant the in the kitchen, it might help us with simple household as things. that same data might also be used to monitor the teacher, achieving trustworthy a.i. that makes teachers' jobs better will be nearly impossible if teachers experience increased surveillance are. here here to react, corey deangelis. great to see to you the morning. why is it perfectly acceptable for police officers to wear body cameras, for us to the monitor every other civil servant in society to see if the they're doing their job correctly, but teachers, they need absolute privacy? >> i mean, look, this is -- it's the because the democrats are owned by the teachers unions, it's pretty obvious. over 99.9% of donations from randi weingarten, for example, went to democrats in 2022, so this is, look, we have 13% of kids in the u.s. proficient in

u.s. history, and this might be part of the reason, because the teachers union and the status quo fight against any change or innovation that could improve outcomes for students. the sad reality is under the bide anen administration the -- biden administration the government school system is more of a jobs program for adults as opposed to an education initiative for kids. will: what an interesting way to the put it, a jobs program for adults. so, i mean, to your point, this is something driven by the teachers union. there's no other reasonable explanation for why teachers would need absolute privacy. no one knowing what's going on in the classroom other than you're hiding something that would threaten your job, and the teachers union's job is to protect your job. >> well, it's funny, because the biden administration releases this report saying humanistic, face to face learning is so important. wait, hold up, this is the same biden administration that colluded and allowed for the schools to be closed for so long and union-dominated areas like

chicago, they were striking into 2022. two weeks to slow the spread turned into two years to flatten a generation, and now heir all concerned about pace to face learning when they were totally cool with the school closures that meant the teachers got to stay home and receive the same amount of job security and pay when parents were scrambling to find private school options or to home school their kids. this is all about the teachers unions who own democratic party. will: i'm still having trouble wrapping my mind around a.i., how it's going to the impact our lives, how it works. i don't even mow -- i don't understand, i'm assuming it could be true that a.i. could spy on teachers, but i can't even put it all together yet on what a.i.'s going to do to classrooms. >> well, look, yeah, this is more about keeping scents from parents. we saw -- scents from parents -- secrets. it led to a school choice revolution because a lot of parents saw curriculum wasn't aligned with their values, and i think the biden administration knows that will spark even more competition to allow families to

vote with their feet through school choice policies. so that's more threatening than anything else for them. will: all right, or corey. always great to audiocassette you. thank you so much. >> thank you, with will. will: climate craziness, activists cause a scene by dumping charcoal into the trove -- trevi fountain. our guest says they are trying to croix western civilization, and she explains next. ♪ ♪ they need their lawn back fast and you need scotts turf builder rapid grass. it grows grass 2 times faster than just seed alone. giving you a stronger lawn. smell that freedom, eh? pick up a bag at lowe's today. feed your lawn. feed it.

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will: we're back with a fox news alert, president biden and speaker mccarthy come ogg the a tentative agreement on the debt ceiling last night. here's what the speaker had to say. >> i just got off the phone with the president. i talked to him twice today, and after weeks of negotiations, we have come to the an agreement in principle. we still have a lot of work to do the, but i believe this is an agreement in principle that's think of the american people.

will: the keel reportedly includes no new taxes and strength thens welfare requirements. mccarthy says the full text of the bill will be released later today. rachel, over to you. rachel: all right. thank you, will. the iconic trevi fountain in rome turning black last week after climate activists poured diluted charcoal in the water, but this wasn't the first time something like to curred. in -- occurred. in october two protest ors threw tomato soup on a van gogh painting in london and glued themselves to the wall. last month if activists threw red and black paint on a sculpture at the national gal ily of art in washington, d.c -- gallery. they were both taken into custody friday and face federal charges. our next guest says these climate extremists are destroying or trying to destroy western civilization. victoria coats served as a senior adviser to the former energy secretary brew lay.

victoria, you are also the author of a history of democracy in ten works of art. i have that book, it's fabulous. so why do they want to tear down western civilization, and why are they choosing these methods to do it? >> well, thanks for the book club, rachel. good to be with you. what seems to be emerging is a pattern that they, these climate extremists seem to think that the destruction or the attempted destruction of the great works of the western canon is completely acceptable if it furthers their agenda for the climate. and they also went leonardo's mona lisa and the de gaulle statue that they went after at the national gallery, they actually set it up with the press. and the guards stood by and did nothing. so the institutions themselves

seem to think this is okay. so it seems to me that they are just going after everything that, for them, stands for oppression, and it then becomes a legitimate vehicle for them to express this radical agenda. rachel: yeah. when i saw the happen to the trevi fountain which, by the way, the mayor of rome says is going to be very expensive and complex to the restore, their hope -- they're hoping there wasn't permanent damage, but i thought about the taliban blowing up those, you know, buddhist statues, you know, that were so amazing when they started taking control. i mean, they are trying to erase western, as you said, western civilization because they believe, i guess, that fossil fuels and the sort of advancement of our civilization through fossil fuels is a bad thing. hay seem genuinely scared? i don't with understand. >> right. and, i mean, problem with the

trevi fountain the, which is an 18th century monument, obviously an icon of rome and the only person who should be in the pref i have fountain, in my opinion, is anita -- who famously walked through it in la doll -- dol, ce vita, that's very, very old plumbing and, obviously, the city is quite with ancient. so the argument, some of the activists make, oh, it's toe a nato soup. oh, i'm not, like, really glue to the mona lisa. that was whipped cream, i guess. but it's just going to take one person going too far with one of these things and one guard who does not step this to protect the works they are charged with preserving, and we're going to the lose a priceless treasure. all of our collective culture patrimony will be diminished, and it will do absolutely nothing for the climate. that's why this is so insane. they are not furthering their

cause. they are simply being modern day vandals and trying to destroy these things. is so i hope that the feds threw the book at that couple that went after the de gaulle statue at the national gallery here in washington. i hope that the authorities in london do the same thing and that any sort of bypasser who sees this happening intervenes to save these works of art which are really, should be the herrage of our children. heritage of our children. rachel: absolutely. they are the heritage, and a civilization that cares about itself and is proud of itself would not tolerate9 this at all. santorum torreya coates, great having you -- victoria coates, great having you, always interesting. >> thanks, rachel. rachel: still ahead, a fire engulfs several boats at a marina overnight. the scary incident as firefighters work to put out the flames.

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joey: the 2024 white house race is on as two more republicans, senator tim scott and governor ron desantis, officially declared their candidacy last week. asian-american voters have started to trend towards the right with 30% voting red in the 2020 the presidential election compared to just 18% in 2016 and 32 voting for gop congressional candidates in last year's midterms. here to discuss more there our panel of voters is xi, who survived mao's revolution, elizabeth, a former california congressional candidate, and tom, a lifelong san francisco resident. thank you all for joining. listen, i think i'm going to throw this first question out, so voters understand what a voting bloc called asian-americans really is, like, what are the, what are the aspects or characteristics of an

overall voting bloc? because i think people aren't singular voting for their ethnicity or one issue. what is it about the culture or even the history and tradition of being an asian-american? xi, i'll go to the you on this first, what are the characteristics offing being an asian-american that makes that voting bloc trend one way or the other in. >> yeah. i think this is a very diverse group, and i am more familiar with chinese, of course, because i'm chinese and vietnamese groups. and i have to say that in the past there are some many, actually, many asians many blue. and i think this is because the victim mindset pushed to them by the democrats who told them that they are a minority and live in a racist country, and the democrat will be their protectors. but more and more have come to

the realization that they have been deceived and betrayed, and is asian-american now are told by the democrats they are no longer a minority, they're now white after i adjacent -- white-adjacent. and also many asians see their treasured, cherished american dream of her tock rah su city being attacked by the democrats not just for themselves, but for their children. and especially chinese immigrants are starting to realize that the democrats do not care ab them -- about them when they become the victim of the rampant crime caused by the democrats' defund the police movement. there's no outrage from biden administration when michelle gal was pushed into an oncoming train by a black man, but there is outrage from the white house

when jordan neely was -- died. and they say that that many -- more and more democrat party is a racist party against the asians. one her i have to i say. more and more asians are so concern about the transgender ideology pushed in school. joey: yeah. >> i know a chinese woman, who has a young son this school. she told me she was terrify one day her son would come home and tell her that she's -- or worse that they won't find out. joey: and, elizabeth, i want to go you on this. it says 29% of asian-americans favor independent. hay don't fall to one water -- party or the other. you were a republican candidate in california. how do you appeal to that independent streak, which is a pretty high number? >> well, i think a high number, conservatives can really win over because the fundamental values that asian-americans care about are family values, education system and really the

american dream. and i think the republican party really focuses on those three topics. and, to oh, economic opportunity. and going back, you know, if in fact you work hard, you can be successful in country. and i think that the more we push out that type of message to win over those incompetent voters, we can win -- independent voters, we can win them over and take this upcoming election. joey: absolutely. tom, you're a san francisco resident. san francisco is known to have one of the most widely-celebrated asian-american communities and places where the traditional asian culture still exists and merges with american culture. what is it about san francisco as a place where where so many democrat policies have failed and just really out in the streets? is there a good opportunity for republicans many in places like san francisco with a high population of asian-americans? >> oh, definitely. definitely. we have been reach out by the republican party here mt. bay area -- can in the bay area, and we're in line with our values

and what they believe in, what we believe in, education, safety, family, core family values and opportunity as well. so they resonate with us, and we're very appreciative that they reached out the us, and we look forward to working together. electing more republicans to office. joey: listen, you all are so proud of your heritage and your ethnicity, you're important to this country, but when i hear you talker i hear you talk like americans and talk about things that are important to the all americans. thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. joey: will, over to you. will: thank you, joey. a few headlines. three people are dead and five are hurt after a shooting at a memorial day motorcycle rally in new mexico. the incident happened last night in red river, it's about three hours north of albuquerque. police say they've apprehended the shooters. the town mayor believes they're part of a motorcycle gang. the red river motorcycle rally

takes place annually and attracts about 30,000 people. a fire breaks out at a d.c. marina engulfing three boats in flames. firefighters putting out the remains of that blaze just a few hours ago. officials say no one was hurt, but the docks were damaged. they are looking into what caused the fire. and now to to basketball, the boston set incompetents -- celtics picking up a game six win over the miami heat thanks to this buzzer-beater from derek white. [cheers and applause] will: that win for the celtics evened up the series or 3-3. game seven tips off at 8:30 tomorrow might in boston, and the winner will move on to to take on the denver nugget in the nba final, and those are your headlines. all right, let's turn to chief meteorologist rick reichmuth for -- rick: denver hasn't played a game for, like, a week. will: i know, they have to sit around and wait.

rick: buford, south carolina, not looking like a great memorial day weekend, sunday at least. things do start to get better by tomorrow, but not only is it cloudy and rainy, high. s today, again, just around 60 degrees for so many people in the 50s once you get in across the higher elevations in the mountain as. tomorrow, coast warms up quite a bit. florida, you're looking really good. all of the moisture that's been around, you had so much rain rain the this past week, that has been swept up into this coastal storm, you get the idea with a lot of rain in the area. a little bit better today and a lot better tomorrow. some spots still another 3-5 inches of rain to fall especially across the interior section of the mountains. will? will: thank you. still ahead, sharks are in the forecast this holiday weekend as four great whites ping off the east coast. how to the stay safe in the water, next. but first, here's the navy band's northeast ceremonial band. ♪ ♪

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rachel: if you plan on hitting the beach this memorial day weekend, be on the lookout for sharks. joey: four great whites were recently spotted on the east coast. will: yeah. so i'm -- okay. [laughter] i'm sitting here thinking about this story, to be honest. here with some tips to the stay safe is the founder of the shark research nonprofit ocearch, chris fisher. chris, i'm already a little bit, like, and the producers mow this, come on. okay, we saw four great whites off of long island, and that's more than normal, but we're not really at risk of getting bit by sharks. >> no, you got your head around it right, will. good morning and happy memorial day. what's going on especially on the south shore of long island is all the bait there and all the sharks like to the feed on the bait there, so that comes close to people.

it's really an amazing hinge to witness. we do have a steady, slow increase of white sharks occurring off our east coast. there's a lot to be celebrated there. the east coast has more life now than we've seen since the '40s or '50s. with that comes the balance keepers which are the sharks, but if we all just pay attention to the ocean and have a look before we go swimming, we'll be fine. rachel: first of all, i'm a lake person. this is why. [laughter] i go up to northern wisconsin because i do think about sharks unlike will. but i heard about the woman who was kayaking with her daughter, and she was wearing a wet suit, so apparently in the report they said that the sharks thought she was a seal? >> yeah. so we see that happen a lot. it really is amazing how infrequently there are these interactions between people and sharks. and particularly when we as people put on black wet suits and go out and play in the surf where white sharks are feeding on seals, and we almost never fool 'em.

so it's amazing how, how they can tell the difference, and you can see here, like, when we're study thing things like that when we have these white sharks up in the cradle on the side of the lift, we co25 the research projects on them, and that's what's allowed us to reveal the life of the white shark off the east coast. just ten years we knew almost nothing, and now we know almost a full description of their life. nothing's changed, we just know now, we've all been swimming with them up and down the east coast our whole life. joey: as a man whoen can't afford to lose any more limbs, shark attack or not, last week we reported on four different shark attacks. but the devil's in the details. two people were spear fishing where you bring blood and guts with you, and the other one they had caught a shark and brought it up and got bit. what are some ways people can be smart, common sense, say away? >> well, i think if you want to be smart and common sense, you're going down to the beaches

with your family, if you're my age and you're in your 50s, with we grew up a highly compromised ocean, so we could just walk in whenever we wanted. so we entered the ocean differently hand our kids need to now -- than our kids need to -- joey: we gotta cut you short. >> look at the ocean before you go in. rachel: that's good advice. already. th more "fox & friends" coming up. gets three jobs done at once - kills weeds. prevents crabgrass. and keeps it growing strong. get a bag of scotts triple action today, it's guaranteed. feed your lawn. feed it. my father didn't know his dad. she knew that i always want to know more about my family history. with ancestry i dug and dug until i found some information.

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