tv Outnumbered FOX News May 30, 2023 9:00am-10:00am PDT
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♪ ♪ >> kayleigh: hello, everyone this is "outnumbered." i'm kayleigh mcenany with my cohost emily compagno and fox news correspondent molly line, president of ka consulting and former senior counselor to president trump kellyanne conway and army intelligence captain, jeremy hunt. we begin with the race for the white house. president biden taking his time to hit the campaign trail, that
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is putting it kindly while the competition kicks into high gear. it's been a little over one month since the president officially launched president campaign with a video announcement and biden hasn't had any campaign rallies were launch events since, not even from his basement. meanwhile florida governor ron desantis only announced 2024 ambitions last week. he is already on the road making multiple stops in the key swing state of iowa with a kickoff event in des moines. desantis will not be alone in the hawkeye state. former president trump and senator ted scott looking to get an edge with iowa voters. set to hold rallies there this week. but the contenders grow tighter by the day but it appears president biden isn't focused on his bonus. >> i could never keep up with
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it. you know, i'm not being facetious. i'm being very serious. a lot of competent candidates. so we will see. >> kayleigh: he said he doesn't focus on it that much. kellyanne, one time he didn't focus on the poll numbers we found out he held pulling meetings like any president would do. it is not just know campaign events but no headquarters and not touting numbers. is he behind or take this for granted? >> kellyanne: he has an initial. most democrats do want to biden a second term. i have a question from president biden. why do you want the job? nobody else want you to keep that job. i kind of sort of want him to keep the job because i'm scared of the vice president but he chose 1 of 3 people in the entire country as his vp who couldn't upstage him. so, there is that. but if your own party isn't
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behind it and 38% right now are going for robert f. kennedy who are not allowed to debate against him, it tells you something. and also the strategy won't work this time. first of all, his situation room and not a good commander and chief like former boss baghdadi and the like. but also, it will not work this time because unlike 2022 when biden sidelined for campaign for congressional candidates, the names are on the ballot. they will be expected to go out and meet the voters, connect with them eyeball to eyeball, shoulder to shoulder. and all of his polling is down on every major issue and personal attributes according to the fox news poll, only a third thinks he has a vision for the country and the sharpness and physical stamina appeared to
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voters, agility is ability. that will train change between now and forever. >> kayleigh: emily, defeatist by no means inevitable. because biden is unpopular and kellyanne knows that as well. we have to put together a positive agenda is a party. but i totally agree with the bay strategy will not work and neither the surrogate strategy and reporting from nbc news to win election president joe biden with friends and allies to go where he can't, say what he want and be what he will never be. but it sounds a lot like the basement with tiktok influencers instead. >> i noticed this rosy lens and to the main candidate for all the reasons that kellyanne just articulated is not doing well bo come of this glitter lease table of people who are going to spread the message for him except they don't agree and they will not actually be counted on to say that same message.
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even the obama election campaign, district ten years ago but you can't recite the usual talking points. this is him again painting with a rosy brush. on the bright side, you cannot recycle the usual talking points. that won't go viral. that is their focus. you need people to speak in their own voice. will that work every time? no. will there be time someone says and you wish they hadn't? of course, overall this will be real and authentic. to the point it is real and authentic to the circuits. putting their own proclivities message, he desires and goals and respect is what they think the president will put out in his talking point. i think it is schizophrenic shotgun blast of a strategy that i don't see working and no amount of rose-colored glands will make the american people appreciate it a too. it is too much of a civil war, and they need to focus their message to be successful or simply have a candidate that people want to see.
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>> kayleigh: yeah, good luck with that. the defense side, molly, there was a washington abc poll at the end of the month that showed both trump and desantis each on their own defeating president biden. that should be cause for alarm bells. if i am in the white house, that causes me to say wait, we need to figure out things here. >> that will be the most entertaining thingy and on the republican side, a big question the democrats will have as they head out into the field. theoretically president biden will have to get there but right now he has protected essentially by the presidency itself. he gets all the media coverage. you can question how it will be positively covered, that will be his big challenge but now the actual presidency. he will run on a record still ever evolving. here is a quote, senator chris coons in delaware, longtime biden ally and the hope hicks chairman. the best way to run for reelection as president is to be
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president. so, that may be the ongoing strategy. >> kayleigh: it is a smart strategy on his point, but i don't think it is so going to work because someone deeply popular at this point. jeremy, on the urbandale, iowa, thursday. a town hall with sean hannity on fox news. he has 12 stops, three of the early states. joni ernst, she has a barbecue, hilly scott, johnson, will all be there and it feels like we are off to the races. >> jeremy: what we have on the right deep folks with talent and we will have a serious kind of debate going forward what our party is about. and 2024. but look, biden what he is hoping for kind of the republican infighting will play out and eat each other alive the next year and a half and skate by. and independent voters just choose him by default. because ultimately, he's a
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failed president. and just kind it default candidate with independent voters. so that is why many of us on the right make sure we do a job of presenting the issues come engaging and having fruitful dialogue and not just ripping each other part. that's what we will see moving forward to be successful. >> kayleigh: no doubt about it, kellyanne, you know the president you have air force one eyes on the campaign trail. i saw you land it and it is huge, this examiner must care about u.s. president. is that alone for biden or clear policy choice, means hey. >> kellyanne: the interesting thing about biden, kayleigh, freshly new outside of history to show up somewhere and people there. donald trump fresh and new with the approach to the country would show up including with you on your first one. and nobody shows up for joe biden. it wasn't just covid. you get the same 12 people.
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but it looked like sunday dinner at my house sometimes when he shows up at a biden rally. so when is his approach in 2024? i don't think it will be online fund-raising. i don't think it will be the crowd spirit but to the point of the republican party come i am glad there is competition. competition made this country great, the party great. let's get the voters in iowa who are smarter and deliberative. go ahead and see the candidates up close and personal. but i think biden he helps inertia will not be overtaken by friction. that is his best strategy but one more thing, biden and harris make otherwise smart democrats and say the smartest things. it makes sense. they defend them as if they want him to be on the job. i would let one or two democrats stand up and say, this is good for the party long party long-term. >> kayleigh: definitely. i hope they bring back the biden rallies with the honks.
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>> emily: an active manhunt is in hollywood, florida, after gunfire with a credit boardwalk yesterday sending people for cover. nine people were shot and injured including four coal miners. among them a 1-year-old child. the police say one suspect is in custody but another still at large pure charles watson has the details this morning. charles, what can you tell us? >> apparently a scary situation for the folks down here in hollywood, florida, just trying
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to enjoy the end of the holiday week and when shots rang out. i want you to take a listen to the witnesses as they describe what they heard and saw as the shots rang out. >> i heard six or seven shots. people start running and i started ducking down. >> really charged up and gone within minutes. there were tourniquet's placed on people's legs to slow the bleeding. >> in this video you see folks running and ducking for cover after police say a disagreement broke out between two groups along the beach side promenade in hollywood, florida, around 7:00 monday evening. at least one gun was pulled and shots fired. you see in the aftermath of the cell phone video, people laid out fellow beachgoers attempted injuries and first responders close by and able to get to the folks pretty quickly. all police say nine people, five adults and four minors between the ages of one and 17 years old
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were injured to pure the of hollywood described the shooting as senseless. >> people come to a holiday to enjoy a holiday week and on the beach with their families and have people disregard the safety of the public and an altercation with guns in a public setting with thousands of people around them is beyond reckless. >> unfort fortunately, no one ws killed. a reporting that all the children injured in all of this are still hospitalized. three of the adults have reportedly been released from the hospital. we are checking in with local officials down here to try to get updates throughout the day. we will report back to you, emily. >> emily: charles watson, we look forward to that and staying abreast of the issues and we will check in with you later. kayleigh, you were there in florida. that is your home. what struck me about the comment since it sounded like a battle
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zone. he is talking about deploying the tourniquet's and urgency and this sort of machine response where deploying what frankly sounds like a war zone. >> kayleigh: it is crazy and if you know this boardwalk there is a subway at ben & jerry's. imagine a mom taking your kids for ice cream. it is terrifying. it is not just miami where we saw this play out but across the nation or an overall 14 people killed memorial day weekend, 50 injured. of that, most of it takes place in chicago. 41 injured, nine people killed in chicago, which is insane. you had governor j.b. pritzker putting peacekeepers out on the streets for the weekend. how does that work? try backing the blue in your police officers because the daily mail said it is a crucial test for mayor johnson, of course, but he failed the crucial test. the peacekeepers didn't work. >> emily: kellyanne, what
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concerns me and deeply disheartening is instead of being able to observe memorial day for what it is, which is honoring those men and women who ultimate sacrifice for freedom commit is the dread and expectation there will be murders, shootings, violence and the same cities over and over again. when will it end? >> when we elect better people. this is not just happening because of covid but because of bad policies. and it also is just continuing with victims feeling like they are guilty somehow. and the guilty roam free. i have a personal connection with a part of my family for the first 25 years of my life and kinley street pier that was our happy place and the reason they chose it other than affordable but it was safe. we were inland, emily, but to see this is so devastating. speaking of the position between the rise in crime and almost assured certainty that there
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will be deaths and destruction at the hand of violent criminals on memorial day weekend and california with 40 teenagers in their 20s leaving town three marines and just wild. this has to stop here at chicago had a higher per capita murder rate than i believe new york and los angeles. but in the midwest a little bit lower than detroit and not just chicago but everywhere you have these liberal out-of-control look the other way when we come to this, d.a.s george gascon or larry in philadelphia, and mayors, people who won't prosecute crime. that is what has to change. and we know what the priority list looks like. look around. >> that instant you spoke about with the marine and all of those teens attacking them, that video should be on fox news shortly so
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stay with us. stay with this network to see horrific footage. jeremy, what say you? >> jeremy: even last night watching the footage. you watch that as a with a young daughter and i can't imagine these really young kids. >> kayleigh: 1-year-old. >> jeremy: and it just breaks my heart. people like gavin newsom of the governor of california takes a moment to tweet out attacks against desantis. no comments about solidarity with the families through this tough time. but instead he goes after desantis and by the way, completely false. desantis past and pro-second amendment with legislation has led to this. what legislation he is referring to will not take effect until july. it was total misinformation as they would call it. but it goes and we have political so-called leaders who are really political entertainers out for themselves. i hate to say that in the latest
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tragedy. >> kayleigh: >> emily: and the footage we were just watching by standards fling fore and the family sharing about how that was so idyllic. and now the whole point i think is maybe you can't predict. this isn't chicago but everywhere this violence that has spread everywhere. >> kellyanne: i live outside of the city of boston and we had a shooting at our beach close to pasta memorial day weekend. so it does feel like it is everywhere. when you look at this particular footage, you can see the kids, the little bikes and you mentioned an ice cream shop there. american families have to ask where can i go with my family now that is safe? anywhere across the country and what beach can i go to and what boardwalk can i go to? that is what a lot of families will be thinking once we get closer and closer and could turn out to be this long, hot violent summer. in one early holiday weekend. speed to it is where we will
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pray for america but it is biden america. attacking law enforcement into military and the commencement speech. calling for the school to lose its taxpayer funding. >> the low it's a manifestation of white supremacy that continues to suppress people in, this nation and around the wo this nation and around the wo
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♪ ♪ >> emily: critics are slamming the city of the university of new york for allowing law graduate to give a speech attacking the police and military and calling for revolutionary against the legal system's white supremacy. watch. >> i chose the school of law for articulated mission, one of very few legal institutions created to recognize that the law is a manifestation of white supremacy that continues to oppress and suppress people in this nation
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and around the world. we are at the class organized against using lexus a legal company contracted with ia's. [cheers and applause] and we did all of this in spite of the racism, in spite of the activism and self-serving interest of community central peer in an institution that continues to fail us and continues to train and cooperate with the precious nypd, the military no longer will we capitulate. no longer will we put our hope in their depraved consciousness. >> emily: that his future lawyer if she passes the bar, fatima mousa mohammed. their reaction to her speech even from new york democrats has been greatly furious. mayor eric adams that we cannot allow the device it for the students here appear at the new york statesmen tweeting, this hate filled and dangerous speech has been brought to you by cuny law and paid for by
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new york taxpayers. this from democrat congressman richie torres imagine being so crazed by hatred for israel as a jewish state that you make it the subject of your commencement speech at a law school graduation. this is patently unacceptable, jeremy and you just graduated law school. congratulations. tell us about your commencement ceremony. >> jeremy: so, this past monday my family comes into town. i was about to graduate and all happy for this moment. you sit there and the faculty speaker gets up and starts yelling out the most evil stuff i've ever heard. she gets up and says we need to have more surgeries, transgender surgeries for young children and it scientific. and shame on the state for banning it. and the audience applauds. it was a resounding applaud for that nonsense. >> emily: and she is the president. >> jeremy: it is amazing how
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the left talks about oppression. i think there is systemic deception in the institutions of higher learning. people are deceived to think that somehow these types of -- is okay. and as you saw, the police and the military, people put their lives on the line for their community. somehow fascist. that is how far the left has gone. and it is those types of ideas really intubated in our institutions of higher education. so, the only way we can combat this stuff is speak up and speak the truth. we have to get beyond this absolute deception of what is going on. so infuriating for my family to sit there and listen to it. i was unh happy that my family d proof of what i had been putting up with. but we got out and back in georgia. speed to kayleigh, what i found fascinating is a stark contrast
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between the dilution put forth at that pulpit and the real world. because in the real world when they graduate and presumably have pool passed the bar statistically, then they have to work with all of those peer than patent cancellation, rejection or boycotting will not be the answer to when you arrive in court, when you are representing your clients and the like. it is such a fantasy land that these live in. one filled and fueled by hatred and violence. >> kayleigh: it is so amazing that you bring up the real world. this graduate was narrow-minded and divisiveness. she had thoughts on the real world. she commented on the jordan neely case and this is what she said liberation in light of the murder of black men like jordan neely by a white man on the mta dignified by politicians. okay, as anyone knows in journalism or in the law come i would think commit is alleged, alleged allegations by alvin bragg and innocent before proven guilty in a court of law.
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how troubling to me in law school student would go out and label it as murder before prosecuted in the case. she could be a prosecutor or defense attorney and the court of law but willing to prejudge a situation. it is troubling and makes me wonder if innocent until proven guilty, is that part of her manifestation of white supremacy? it is a pretty good concept. >> jeremy: there is a whole generation of alvin braggs coming through the local school system. >> kayleigh: scary. >> jeremy: we are in a dangerous part in our country and what lawyers look like and someone as corrupt as alvin bragg. >> emily: a point of view, so narrow and a small percentage of again the real world which is touched on all facets by the law. it is not just about whatever the efficacy of a month is or whatever kool-aid they are drinking pure of the real world international of diplomacy has to do with thoughtful, actual grasp of facts and actual grasp of some type of civility in there.
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>> molly: what is noticeable about the fatima mousa mohammed she was chose by the graduating class. they picked her as part of 2023 graduating class and she got to see what she wanted to say. she hits on themes of contention of young people nowadays are talking about, anticapitalists, revolution peer there are a million ways people advocate for revolution. she repre rips the military ande police. one of the quotes the joy and excitement fills the auditorium with a fight for capitalism, racism, imperialism and zionism around the world. keep in mind as you mention, jeremy, little bit of ideological minority, this was a person selected by the students. who knows if they shares precisely the mind-set. of course missing the irony she is enjoying the fruits of all of those systems by going to school and pegging that degree and subscribing to it.
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the financial senator capital of the world. a couple of things going on that i want to make clear, this commencement speaker did not say vote democrat or donald trump. she is an anti-semite. her message is calling for revolution. these are fighting words. state run taxpayer-funded university law school. she could be seen as a state backer. i would like to know if that commencement speech at so many of these days approved ahead of time. sure, she was selected by her peers for whatever silly reasons. a boy, she is channeling best kamala harris with reading something somebody else and not look up from the paper. but this is not a political disagreement. she is over the line. and zionism, anti-semitic in the same week that the alleged murder and trade life synagogue massacre is on trial. she is family anti-semitism in
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new york city. we should not hear the end of the story peer there is a lot wrong with that. anyone a part of the alumni community should absolutely pull in eight donor funds as a start. a way to the supreme court decision paying off student loans more and more to dig college altogether for blue-collar jobs. that is next.
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federal student loans. the supreme court there still weighing the forgiveness loan plan and that decision could come at any time. the house speaker kevin mccarthy says ending the pause would be a big win. >> pauses go on 60 days. so that is another victory because that brings in $5 billion each month. >> kayleigh: all of this comes has more high school graduates choosing with traditional college experience and take up blue-collar jobs. department of labor found 62% of graduates choose to enroll in four-year programs last year. that enrollment down from 66% in 2019 and topped out at 70% back in 2009. kellyanne, are you surprised by this? >> kellyanne: know and i'm disheartened by this trend. there are many in community colleges is also way up and i'm getting my four year degree and all the student debt that comes with it.
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i sent into somebody else's point of view. and no guarantee on the back end that you will have this fulfilling high pegging job or career path. look, the most popular piece i think president trump's economic government and mike pence and the most popular piece was these vocational technical and carpenters, electricians, hairdressers, but my goodness, and economy we want that works for everyone. and is being worked by everyone. so, i'm not surprised by the fact i gave the students in a particular post covid era a ton of credit for saying no to four-year college. i have two 18-year-olds about two graduate from college but they know if they want to go that route, 100% a high note. >> kayleigh: molly a lot of people asking do i have a return
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on my investment? i graduated after friends of mine couldn't find a job and we paid to go to a big university and we don't have a job. >> molly: kellyanne is right, the hardest thing in life is not yourself. not everybody wants to go to college so it would be wonderful if the strong options were available and supported in the same way things like forgiveness of student loans and ongoing loan repaid. it would be wonderful if that expanded to all parts of society. when it comes to college in theory, you want to learn a skill that is valuable in the job market and not be saddled with huge debt. not to be facing what the situation is. employers are beginning to recognize that not everyone can afford to go straight to college and all the way through college or pay back college. so, people have not necessarily gone to college to help them get through college. people recognize that you can work peer there are many different paths then trying to find different ways to work in
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their own lives. >> kayleigh: a big victory at the student loan clause, three years plus they pause the student loan payment. speak to albatross across the country is to me belies the president's absolute lack and despite his millions of years of service actually to this country has no idea what real americans are going through. to your point, i know it is missing from this administration the president's acknowledgment and gratitude for skilled labor, truck drivers and for those that are the backbone of the country because instead from him all we have is about going to college, going to graduate school and producing loans and the like. there is a whole portion of america that is the bedrock being ignored. i want to highlight and i had the honor of speaking to tim time gold winner on ag life and partnered with northern tools and it's called "tools for the trade program" they bring to public schools throughout florida. they bring these tools so that
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kids can learn professional grades tools and understand about welding and the like. that level of inspiration and bringing that to kids. it is a shame we don't have that from our presidency and amazing athletes and businesses and society to bring it to the kids because that is what they deserve. >> kayleigh: if the present has his way they will pay for college tuition if the person default or campaign. >> jeremy: exactly come a lot of gin z-e ors. the studies didn't do much for you. and so i'm also looking at other paths and for those of us on the right, we have to be the people championing other paths to strong career high-paying jobs. in other fields other than going to four-year woke indoctrination college system that will push an entire generation's towards peer that is the only reason
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democrats are crazy about four-year college because it is for themselves. >> kayleigh: i create the mic appreciate the underwater basket. arnold schwarzenegger said he hates the phrase climate change. he is ready to rebrand his plan for that next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ and the payments high. consolidate that car loan into a newday home loan and save hundreds every month.
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>> kellyanne: >> molly: deadly memorial day we can leaves nine people shot. among them a set of 2-year-olds. the president joining us live with an update on what is being done to try to stand the violence as we head to the summer months. plus, we could see kevin mccarthy in a moment on the hill. what is being done to persuade lawmakers with a debt deal ahead of the default line. we will be showing you newly obtained video by fox and a group of teenagers hacking a pair of off-duty marines in california. brand-new reaction to that in a moment. "america reports" at the top of the hour.
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>> kayleigh: arnold schwarzenegger taking on a new role and california governor on a crusade to tackle climate change. but first he said there needs to be some rebranding. >> as long as they keep talking about global climate change, it will never go anywhere. because no one gives a belief about that. so my thing is, let's go and rephrase this and really tell people. we are talking about pollution. pollution creates climate change. and pollution kills. >> emily: molly, how refreshing to have someone with common sense approach. he's not wrong. >> molly: three pan rebranding issue and has been politicized for decades but may be a little rebranding could help you read but relate this whole radiological divide how republicans and democrats even look at this issue and it's been going on a long time. research from 2167 in ten
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liberal democrats, 7% trust the climate scientists a lot and they get accurate information with 15% of republicans here and so there is a whole divide, not just about climate change and what it means but how to approach it, who do believe. it goes deep and he talks about pollution, for instance. 76% of liberal democrats say this can make a big difference, 29% conservative republicans the same thing. how to approach pollution and all the things involved in climate change. a big political divide and rebranding. >> he is still in his own hands, he is constantly saying look, you guys you have to do it yourself. let's get it done and that common sense approach that california is missing. >> kellyanne: if i understand governor schwarzenegger is making a good one and he's saying if you want to get more
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people engaged and not just enraged on any issue, let them see it. not just say it and pollution is something you can smell, see, taste. if you go after big polluters, start with china. the world's biggest polluter when it comes to air, to water, trash, solid waste you name it. and also 75 years old talking and he remembers don't litter. he remembers antipollution and climate change become so politicized and it was called global warming. the global warming climate change people decided to change it. i disagree with whoever is saying it is not a big issue. it does matter to lots of people around the world. they were focused but not the way they are focused on corporate needs. if we ignore it i don't know why the republican party doesn't have a better position on this issue. a lot of young people care about it. we can have the upper hand on that if we are smart about it. it is a good way to visualize it and use your senses.
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>> jeremy: a lot of times the climate change lobby and all of the stuff. rebranding, they will have to start from the ground up. get away from the political size and actually present facts and stop trying to control people's lives and collect climate change. to your point, china is the worst violator of any pollution we talk about. so there will not be meaningful change if china doesn't actually do something different. >> kayleigh: former president trump gave speeches about clean air and had a good agenda on this front. republicans former president and i talked about it. i don't think rebranding will help to kellyanne's point, it was climate change but whatever they came up with who have an upwards battle of 1% and an upwards 3%, the metric just a few years ago. so you have to convince 97% of people if you want to be worldwide greenhouse gas reducer, to your point, go to
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christ," and "jesuit," it was condemned and hailed, so anyone's guess what it looks like. >> my dad is a pastor in atlanta, and depict jesus, it needs to be jesus from the bible, not a made-up hollywood version. i hope they are doing right by, and actually doing an accurate depiction of christ, tries to get the attention of the media and hollywood. >> i love seeing christian works out there, we were talking about "the chosen," best film series i've seen. >> i love "the chosen," and you find yourself about wondering about the choices creating the art, depicting jesus in particular or mary or any of the prophets or saints depending on
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your religion, it's interesting to see to imagine what, how it really happened, how it occurred, how people sounded, i take it with a grain of salt, artistry involved. >> emmy, anyone who depicts jesus, what an amazing, humbling task. i spoke with jonathan rumy on the network and talked about the gravity and the seriousness when he depicts jesus and trying to capture the most amazing person who walked planet earth. >> i just got chills, i hope it's the embodiment of the jesus christ and the pope said let us see jesus, so i'm excited to have jesus before us and to have those masses see him in the way we all do. >> kellyanne. >> i've been in the presence of pope john paul ii, i asked him to bless my womb, i was a newlywed. but if you do a film about
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jesus, the next best thing. i think martin scorsese has seasoned with age. >> quick programming note, i will guest host "the ingram angle" this evening, and raising the debt ceiling, 2024, a ton of news. don't forget to dvr the show, here is "america reports." >> john: kayleigh, thank you. begin this tuesday with a shocking incident out of southern california over the memorial weekend, a mob of teenagers appeared to viciously attack a group of off duty marines. i'm john roberts in washington. sandra, hope you had a good long weekend. >> sandra: good to be back. sandra smith in new york. this is "america reports." two of the victims say they were just walking along the pier in san clemente when they asked a group of teenagers t
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