did. i don't care what he does just summing chicken. todd from tampa. i can substitute the nuggets chris mark you stop talk about my son like that. that's all for tonight dvr the show was a member i'm waters and this is my world. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ representatives is nearing a vote on the debt ceiling in our we are monitoring the situation and we will break in with news as we get it. first hello and welcome to "fox news tonight" i'm joey jones. as a republicans find themselves over a fraction armani spends in the year it's important to put all of this in perspective. if the bill can only limit 11% are discretionary push with a budget where the 89% spent on? the lion share of your money, your money the government spends

every year is codified as mandatory mean that there is no review process no checks and balances just a blank check and no balancing the checkbook. we live in a society where laziness and obesity can qualify you for disability check from the government paid for by us working americans. in fact nearly two-thirds of the money spent by government last year went to social welfare programs. oakland the democrats like joe mccormick of florida to even mention challenging these programs is to be heartless and void of empathy empathy. when someone chooses getting high or being the father to his children what p is he owed? when it woman uses her sprained ankle that beyond disability issues and discomfort to scan the system? when the son of a vice president spends his time and money on is he an addict in need? or simply a rotten soul?

the left tells us that we should pity everyone might've been dealt a bad hand okay that's fair enough. but who hasn't? how many hardworking well employed americans have cancer? how many fathers raise their children after digging out a financial ruin how many americans lose everything they own and it disaster losing their children in a tragedy and almost was her sanity through it all. all of those things are affecting people around us every single day. you don't know it because they don't show it. they work hard. they struggle. they fulfill the responsibilities and get through it. those are the people i pity. they are also the ones i admire. life is unfair there is when you give a blue ribbon to a pig life is cruel and hard and constant. and worth it. why should i pity someone who's had every obstacle in their life to stop them from even taking care of themselves. someone who is indulged in

debauchery to the point with her family left them. a sex offender, an addict to defend himself. why should my money fund their ruin. the me be clear i don't to see this for some ivory tower know he did that the hard way from the trailer my dad was an alcoholic. my mom was abused as a young child she conceived my sister her wedding night at the age of 15. her 20s she was single mom struggling with addiction. my dad was also a brick mason and my mom cleaned other people's houses. they never once in all their struggles self-imposed and circumstantial stop believing in the dignity of their work and responsibly that they had to themselves each other and most portly their children. you see that that is the very least as a society we should expect from our fellow citizens. addict exactly what republicans are fighting each other for.

and democrats are arguing against. kevin mccarthy edit work requirements to this bill and democrats are losing their mind over it. >> there are a lot of people who can't work for a variety of reasons but who don't deserve to be held hostage again to work requirements. >> these work requirements are designed to punish people who need help. >> one of their major requirements are work requirements and they won't even show up to do their own darn job. >> the notion that they want to now lecture us in the context of trying to avoid a default about so-called work requirements is extreme and irresponsible. >> terrible policy, absolute terrible policy. >> it's a disgrace and a shame tried living on snap for a week before screwing over poor pe people. [laughter] >> poor people those people.

so where are democrats on this? seattle and sam cisco and neo-crack pipes and saying things will not everyone wants to work for living like it's a civil right to be lazy and joe daniher minds. california governor gavin newsom gave us great insight into his party's view on this. >> being sober is where the biggest mistakes at once made a subtle holger had idealistic kind of review. god bless some of you feel like me i've been known to have a glass of wine and watch some the nightly news. we all n need to self medicate periodically. >> is a republicans fight over what how much of this sliver this budget can be reined in democrats sit back and watch the debt ceiling climb higher than california on camping on a square playground drawing a check for the government. with all of their talk respecting someone's identity they show complete disregard for someone's dignity. the dignity of self-respect only

found through hard work completely escapes them. the kind of dignity you get when you go to work for the sunrises. work until it sets until it just enough to doing it tomorrow. the kind of dignity and pride when you build a family and fulfill your responsibilities to them by the sweat of your brow. to watch them become the first in their entire lineage to graduate college or even high school like the dignity my dad felt when you watch me do just that. hard work, skilled hands, and mutually assured responsibility build this country. drug ghettos and government handouts might ruin it. though this eschatology right now no matter how you come into this world matter how poor downtrodden you may feel that out of the mistakes you fake in the past if you want to bring value, you can bring something productive into this world and but yourself doing it. do not let anyone tell you you

don't have value on the workplace especially not the government. a former drug addict and she joins me now thank you so much thanks so much for joining us on this and first of all just love your perspective. we look at this and we talked about the beatles are hard words we have the open but it's one i believe we target people that choose a life of addiction understand my own parents sometimes is not a choice to get there but is it a choice to get out of there and what gets you out of it? >> i really appreciate your intro and your words were too harsh of course self eat taken harshly by people who actually haven't overcome those challenges. we go with me. however getting out can be a challenge if you're in the throes of addiction however and you talked a lot about government spending work out

some initiatives with some statesmen in our nation trying to change some these initiatives a bit of element of the social safety net's that we are more designed to help individuals overcome their dumping billions of dollars into an endless pit that creates and perpetuates dependency which is actually problematic and we got the opportunity to listen to a number people share exactly t that. it's problematic that we are not incentivized as a nation to enable our other citizens regardless of their condition to come up out of the mess and give them the opportunity, the education and the incentive to actually become hard workers and to gain a kind of self-respect. as we enabled these destructive policies that are keeping people dependent we are actually killing people in our nation. so sometimes it takes a little bit of help for example

incarceration everyone knows that's part of my story but our service structure could be set up to actually enable people to become their best selves and we are not in any way helping people to improve their quality of life. >> do people need to hit rock bottom to find their way up? >> i think rock bottom can be very relative to the individual right? do we think they have to? no i think they can incentivized change in the mist of someone's circumstances. >> what advice would you give to gavin newsom which market states is you want the worst offenders on this. >> they are definitely leading the way and it blows me away sometimes when i hear city officials different provinces and municipalities talk about how they look at seattle and sam cisco as leaders in this development sort of mind-set and policy progression i would newsom is first of all the idea that clean and sober is however

he described that as honestly it's offensive to those of us who been in the throes of addiction and it was worked really, overcome it. that really is the only route out for safety in our communities for self-respecting individuals for the perpetuation of people to be self-respecting individuals adding as problematic as ingrid some you're really bad example not only are we destroying the fabric of our communities where destroying the entire fabric of our nation. >> think so much for joining us you tell your story in a way and where people listen i appreciate and respect you for that. >> think so much for having me on. >> one thing that all republicans agree on is that those gender studies majors like to start paying their loans back for some college graduates unable to pay their bills to begin with? is it a pushing up they've encouraged americans to expand or borrow tens of thousands of dollars every year for the privilege of being a darker d

data. balance a checkbook or will the pipe mike rowe as a host of how america or some business first. you seen them preach about this mike okay we're gonna pay back student loans had we not get there to begin with? how do we get her kids and i got in the position? >> first of all no one wants a sermon, no one wants a lecture and i should say that for the record almost people are individuals, drug addicts are individuals. part of the problem i think that a lot of rational people feel that we are not treating them like individuals. witnesses policies and they are well intended policies but the unintended consequences are mind-boggling. and to your point the unintended consequences of paying off hundreds of billions of dollars in student loans are many and among them is a complete reverse incentive the utter lack of motivation of a decision like that would have on university

who might be considering lowering their tuition it's not gonna happen. and so everything is like pulling on a piece of yarn on a quilt everything ruffles and bundles up further away. and that's overseeing with student loans that's overseeing with vocational education which we stupidly in my view pulled out of high schools 40-50 years ago. and so the chickens are coming home to roost so right now we've got not just the student loan problem we have nine and half million able-bodied men sitting out of the workforce that is a problem. >> tell me the dignity of learning a skill trade compared to what is promoted as a for your traditional college education. >> unofficially fair to compare and contrast other than to say that there is dignity and doing what you say you're going to do this dignity and showing up early and staying late in volunteering for the job listing

being delayed gratification this dignity and doing it the hard and honest way. that foundation offers work scholarships i can't see into the soul of anybody, but i do want have a conversation about what it means right? to think that way at least. so it's a big problem, it's a big idea i wish i had a magic wand i would waive it and solve it right now. >> is my belief that big problems are solved by small steps by a lot of people. and you're one of those people and you take big steps thank you for the work you're doing i'm truly appreciated. when you speak mike i listen. mike rowe thank you. >> thinks joey. >> house leadership is moving to bring the debt ceiling deal to the floor for about this hour. fox's senior congressional correspondent has been following this and has the latest. >> good evening the house is now debating the bill the final vote

is pending we expect a bill to pass with a bipartisan cocktail of democrats and g.o.p. members. conservatives are still incinerating the bill along with house speaker kevin mccarthy for how to negotiate the pac package. the man who negotiated on behalf of mccarthy's garrett graves. he has had it with the crit criticism. >> looked there was some trust that was lost a knock and lie there really was. i really am affronted there was a group of people who started saying things that were absolutely inaccurate. about the steel started bad mouthing and defining it before it was done. >> a lot of members will vote yes but will hold their noses. the bill goes to the senate tomorrow conservatives could attempt to slow the bill down. >> republicans claim that this is a big victory for republicans meanwhile the democrats are doing everything they can hide their excitement over the steel. >> the senate could approve the package as early as friday that hinges on a deal with opponents like mike lee.

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♪ ♪ >> welcome back child mutilation and chemical castration is been pushed as mainstay seizures for minors, children. proponents called us gender affirming care. anyone who opposes these barbaric procedures is accused of denying life seizing health care to kids. because apparently in order to save kids you know have to watch them. why are they pushing this on our children? >> a retired navy seal who is d transition now is try to warn teenagers against following in his footsteps joining is now for your service. we've interact on twitter before what is your message these may be the children but also the kids? >> the message is multi-for the parents of the parents need to

start looking at all the data i was a mental health counseling from a graduate degree here at university i live so is learning all the procedures and all about human development up to 25 result. still developing your brand. the thing is is that when you going to these courses there coaching you there coaching on what to say to parents and they are not showing all the data. where the biggest pieces of data that they are missing right now is that 80% of the kids are going through gender dysphoria or gender confusion before puberty and during puberty 80% of those kids corrected get rid of all the gender confusion of the time purity is over. 80%. if you have ten kids in the class are now or transgender possibly eight of those kids are little bit confused. now they are really pushing right now the chemical castration call purity blockers so the kid goes on purity blockers 13 have a third 15

years old they are chemically castrated they're not to be have children when they get older they are not given the status of eight of those kids of the ten are and want to go back to be a regular old person and then i could be able to. also given double vasectomies were 14 heaven 15 years old. fortis was ten years old when sir john. the thing is it's being driven by hospital administration most insurance companies it's a big mess. it's all about money. one of those surgeries is $400,000.01 surgery. $400,000. you'll thing is about money quick to mark you don't think that the summing is going on? a lot of people are blaming christians like christians are doing this or that i'm a tell you fact that is not true. it probably should christians are about love had to rules love god, and love each other as you would yourself. there's the two things that taught at every christian i know, it's over talking about. i can love you like all those

lgbtq people i do not agree with you. if start doing this to kids i'm not can love you at all to be hard to love you. i still will become a christian but darn it, you're making it really hard with the start leaving his kids alone they are castrating them in doing these double vasectomies. 8-10, 80% of those kids are massive studies 80% of those kids are not transgender. it was on the skids artist confused parents need to wake up do not let your kids get into this stuff you would share all the data all of the data. >> i think you for your service and i think of her testimony your words hopefully resonate with people and good luck to you and all your endeavors. >> thank you. >> the mainstream media has been arm of the democratic party front of the years that's not even but the finding cover to turn into pure unfiltered

propaganda. here's msnbc last night. >> were also seen an economy that's truly delivering working americans at the bottom of the labor hierarchy for the first time in recent memory this a pretty striking story. we've seen actual meaningful wage games for the bottom portion of workers even when you account for inflation. whether that continues or not is anyone's guess. that trajectory is promising. >> it's not an "snl" skit that's real. an economy that's truly delivering for working americans at the bottom. just spit in my face and tell me it's raining. so joe biden he is basically the best president ever. never mind the record inflation of crime, millions of illegal illegals crossing the border. america has never been better. the cohost of the big money show on fox business he is here with me tonight. listen were knocking to spend this time talk about essays but

we are gonna talk about the truth, give us the truth. >> truly delivering for working americans listen. here is the problem he read a political article did not go talk to people who are living the reality right now. what's happening for working americans on the bottom are the seats and wage gains? we are because we have a labor shortage in hospitality committee are seeing which gains but the problem is that they are getting hit hardest by inflation because when you're at the bottom you can't trade down you don't get to make those adjustments that the middle class family can. he will already barely being able to afford what you eat and the other problem is that the things that have gone up in price the most are the things of the big sportier budget when you're at the bottom gas, food, rent. so you have nowhere to go you're not being delivered for you being pushed further down than you've ever been. speak a word's credit card debt fit into this? >> such a massive problem and everyone wonders why does assume

coomer spending krusemark it is sort of kept up the answer is we are at record levels of credit card debt people are borrowing to pay for the things they can afford so again when you talk about this economy is delivering the lower middle class is not delivering it's requiring them with their livelihoods on plastic in order to get by with the flip that around we had an economy prior to the pandemic or wage rages wages really were going up for people at the bottom and they weren't having a run up record credit card debt because they can earn a living you mention work earlier or near show the dignity of work but also the sustainability of work as a way to build a family that is what we are missing right now. >> we talk about working hard and making more money inflation's gonna be of credit card debt. a right that probably makes your credit less appealing and no money is harder to borrow as well. with this housing market how to set affecting people? >> the housing market seems

almost impenetrable for people because interest rates are high so borrowing money isn't readily expensive and you can find houses out there because the inventory is low. every time build a life you can't take that first step you want to take which is getting out of renting and buying a home but joey the cost of money right now to borrow for anything that you want, any investment that you want to make it so quickly high and goes back to the inflation that's killing those in the bottom they are being delivered for they got hit once with inflation, they got hit twice with interest rates. and now they're wondering what the next she was good to be in my gonna lose my job if this goes into a recession? that's not thriving, that's people living on the edge and you can see it when we talk to them. >> money is less viable but more expensive cosmic houses are more expensive and harder to find credit card debt is up and people are working harder but this is a better economy? >> you know that many didn't have to read up a local article that to know that. >> thank you very much for your expertise. there is been a shocking update

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>> refusing to turn over documents that allegedly show doesn't bite into a bribery scheme involving of courses on hunter's business deals. the actions by definition are criminal. you could face jail time if he is found in contempt's and out that ray has been violating the law he is finally emitted the documents are real. the cohost of the show. it's also a a former cia analyst and he joins us now thank you for coming on tonight. i know you look at us and americans a good is this a is a

deep state? what's going on right now? when you look at this what you see? >> there's deftly of a turf war underway here. right now as i understand it j.j. they're talking about sharing the documents and fbi setting but not fully sharing with the committee meaning the show them but they won't give them essentially this fd 1023 document now from the way the fbi does things in similar other parts of the intelligence world they get raw information they get unverified intelligence that comes in and they can have the decide to act on it or not. this document which is now been confirmed in this conversation this document is in that category it's verified if it to do with joe biden and allegations of possible bribery if the water not only is there a concern about what's in there but what was the follow-up to this? i think that's were some of the stars to become problematic for the fbi it's worth noting was a

conversation with george poppel opposite us in a bar in london which launched the fuel field fbi investigation counterintelligence investigation which led to the special counsel which a coup effort against donald trump. if they have information from a source they think is viable enough that they now want to protect from congress in some capacity to the follow-up on that question marquis information? where they so sensitive about this i think this were people start to ask questions about who is the deep state exactly question market with playing f for? >> you see the data is wrong unverified i understand they could very falsified and fabricated you verified by cooperating with ever evidence is there a chance that what he has is that other evidence that can verify or disputed? >> absolutely there are multiple things that could happen here and you think the fbi would want now they're saying they are going to cooperate but cooperation is pretty easy congress' oversight and they

have classification authority that sees any things it wants a wiser this pretense of all we need to protect our sources and methods? you don't protect classified information from congress and this is anyone classified? is unclassified based on their part in that we have seen which means that what exactly do they think that they are keeping away here for members of congress who want to see a question mark so yes to your point could very well be that they've additional piece of the puzzle and this could be essential in all of that, but also i've a sense that you're gonna see if this comes out that they did not want to know about these allegations about joe biden. >> the only person on the appreciate you for being on here. >> thank you sir. >> distracting our politicians on the huge problems facing our country the border still broken and there are literally holes in the wall an unprecedented number of people crossing illegally every school day. drug cartels and human smugglers they have full control over

southern frontier washington doesn't care little uses pets project is no one secured the funding when the ongoing invasion? is and i trying to? it sure does not look like it. a ceo of american majority he joins is now give us the down on what's happening ask if you l look. >> first of all the president donations leaders love their country would also ever let it invaded i have to tell you right now what's taken place a president and congress who i think disdained the american republic are allowing this to happen and this is an invasion. to get people perspective and donald trump last year in office every month we were apprehending about 38,000 illegal aliens under joe biden it's on was 200,000 a month. what makes even worse is that we think according to some estimates about 2 million have been catch and release

proponents this country. during the joe biden to administration i things happening for two different reasons to parallel paths. if you destroy the border if there is no you destroy national sovereignty though sovereignty does no nation if there's no nation what is next to me to be a citizen of this country? you're really not a citizen of a country or citizen of the world singing kumbaya with the economics. i also think the left enabled by the chamber of commerce and we cannot let them off the hook the chamber of commerce wanted cheap labor at but the left thinks they're gonna get amnesty 8:30 to get these illegals on a path to citizenship and turn them voters said and they can have overwhelming majorities and under sinnott's messages american public. sue got a grip on the town that's mexican actually they come up in the 80s and 90s the children were first generation americans of tremors out of school and allow them are

conservatives and elder millennial generation is there a difference in intent and basically what is thought when coming here with this wave of migrants? speak live to tell you if you're coming here illegally i think you're undermining one of the the rule of law i've gone to the point i think the american people are kind and generous people we have been so throughout her history our kindness and generosity has been massively abused i think a lot of us myself included nursing okay that's enough we want a moratorium on all immigration until this is fixed anything we need to move to a merit-based system much like canada's australia's. his at some point joy the other question that people need to start asking is what we are importing or allowing so many low skill illegal workers into this country in the face of automation replacing a lot of those skilled jobs what can happen? were first of all you're going to have mass deportations ordered enough to throw them

onto social where felt system which is collapsing already. the only way you keep that from completely imploding his draconian taxes so at some point the american people need to wake up and go we do not like where this is heading we do not like this future we demand their leaders who are supposed to represent us in our interest stayed up and do something about this i do see the american people to wake up before it's too late. >> listen cheap labor is a big part of this that is the thing that knows no party lines maybe that's what's happening. some of them are good people a lot of good people doing bad things is a bad thing thank you. they are now more than 30 house republicans opposed to the mccarthy and joe biden deal. one of those are republicans of colorado joins us right here next to us when his reasoning stay tuned. ♪ ♪ for a really long time to find some relief. cosentyx works for me. cosentyx helps real people get real relief

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can have a baby except his seventh baby we've a lot of questions about this. should we applaud him should to be cut off ages for becoming a father question men in their 80s have the ability to father children american's answers in this one person who give them to us that it starred mark and siegel functions medical contributor thank you for joining us there are a lot of ways to take this number one we should always applaud life life is what keeps us going this to keep going 80? >> you started this is a great place can you imagine the government sitting in a summit here so no i don't want that's of course is the freedom to be a father and 83 by the way when he was the movie stand up guys he put a character called val that overdosed on viagra so maybe he was pressured maybe that played a role here i don't know. here's what i'm worried about seriously. what about the kid going up he's gonna lose his father likely the

young age there's a lot of trauma associated with that. father will be able to play with a mere 36 with young kids you play with them. you are a role model i try to be. 83 worries me what about old? it has a lot of problems associated there's mutations there's issues with birth defects insulative element does issues with early birth weight issues with adhd and autism. all these things can occur. so even someone that's privileged or irresponsible to bring a child that age. >> i wouldn't say he's a responsible i went over the motivation is so likely to be a healthy child cautionary world on how old he is not thrilled with it for being so young it's an advantage. >> you bring expertise you also bring in wisdom. thank you for joining us. >> there's more than 30 house republicans who said they will vote no on the debt ceiling deal

ken buck of colorado is one of them he says that kevin mccarthy should be worried not the house ship. joining us now consummate think you for joining us on the topic of this debt ceiling bill. you all sent to bill earlier you will support the majority of your party supported and that bill was a tenure freeze and this bill is essentially a one year freeze. the president signs a bill back says he wants a clean bill. your speaker, the leader of your party since a bill back that's little bit different than the first one is not called a compromise? is not what americans want? >> americans don't want four chilean dollars of debt and that's what this bill does gives americans for chilean dollars more of debt. our national debt in january of 2025 will be $35 trillion that's unsustainable. it's unsustainable and that's what republicans in the house

are objecting to is a huge increase our national debt. >> a lot of folks that align with the illness you some fiery language i know it's high and understand why if you watch the monologue in the show we care we care about them when it's country spends and what we expect from our citizens if you're a negotiator on the phone with president joe biden how do you get what you want instead of what mccarthy got? >> in 2008 the speaker majority leader in the senate democrat and president obama democrat negotiated a deal with their caps in place that's we need to do here. we need to stop the rate of government growth we need to make sure that we don't continue to add trillions onto our national debt. >> listen know you're all about the vote will see what happens good luck with the things you believe in and collecting care of america. thank you.

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>> the house vote on the debt ceiling bill is said to be underweight just moments from right now senior congressional correspondent has the latest. >> overlooking the house floor and now which of the top democrat on the house committee they are debating right looking at the clock here we believe that this vote is gonna start just before 9:00 eastern time we have been trying keep track manually of the time allotted to both sides here we think it's gonna start at about 858, 859. the vote will left 15 minutes, like soccer they keep the time in the fields are really about 20-25 minutes after nine is when we would get a final tally we expect this to pass we are expecting a bipartisan coalition of democrats and republicans to vote for this.

and then it will go to the senate me tomorrow, maybe friday, saturday and sunday the deadline is june 5th. back to you. >> thanks chad. washington budget fights can get little too abstract so deep in the hole that it's hard for member the difference between policies and what they make and at some point trying to dollars of spending comes empty numbers it's important to keep some perspective though david hanson is a fellow at the institute and is here to bring us that perspective gives her take on this. >> we are a new territory of what we're looking at with these 1.5 trillion or 2 trillion projected we never seen that before. this not the george w. bush deficits when he doubled him was the debt is not the obama deficits is not the donald trump deficit is a new magnitude hundred and 3% gdp international debt that's higher than any year at world war ii at the peak even in 1944 so we are playing 10% of

the budget and interest alone in the interest rate can go much higher in two years will be paying more in the debt that we all for defense budgets what has to stop is this race car the stat race car did not get to be into it suddenly we are slowing down a little bit if the republicans want to stop it and they are the only people responsible to stop it they have to change their attitude we have the senate and the house and you have the presidency as you did under george w. bush in order donald trump you have to act because you've the reins of power but when you start going up $500 billion deficit the left says well if you're gonna do it where gonna trump you and that's what's happened. and if you want to stop it now you can't stop it with one half of the house you have to win elections you cannot lose 7-8 popular votes. you have to get 51% of the presidential tally that you haven't gone since 1988. so you have to work on that and then you can stop it but this

idea that we have sold out because we can't stop the car before goes over the abyss and wearing a slow down is kind of irrelevant. this is been going on too long and a republican's are partly culpable they do not have the discipline to do it when they had the power and they don't have the power to stop it now but they can if they start winning elections and start being responsible for change. >> so much of this response around that because they won't be able to keep it going each congress are these policies is not popular enough americans? >> yeah americans know that they are heading for armageddon. and weathered social spending or defense whatever it is it's not sustainable there than a half to a money or renounce the debt or confiscate private wealth that's what happens historically when you can't fund your country anymore. it's all oblivion if we all go down that route so we have a last chance in the 11th hour in the next two years we have to do

something as a stopgap we should not be fighting over it we should be getting ready to have a final analysis and solution we can do that in the conservative party has a switch and change rather than fight with each other in the civil war this went on in the bush administration in the chubb administration has to stop. >> we don't know if it's gonna stop tonight as a matter fact when this passes the probably be more infighting to those that are objecting to they have a viable solution other than what kevin mccarthy is struck? >> think they do i sympathize because you're absolutely right we are on the brink of financial collapse if you only have a nine seat majority in the house and you can't win national elections and you can't win the popular vote then something is wrong you can't just flip your fingers or wave a wand and say were gonna get this. you have to do the hard work of winning the presidency, the senate, house, get a big margin

and then say to a president bush, our present donald trump or the next president you're gonna balance the budget. we have to follow the recommendations. >> victor davis hanson thank you for bringing it down first. that's all for tonight john is back here tomorrow for the show. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> hannity: welcome to "hannity" at this time tomorrow night we were be in iowa for a very special town hall with donald j. trump. tickets are free tonight we are right here in new york city with the only people that are normal in new york. [cheers and applause] we have a live audience show. coming up in just a bit we begin tonight with the fox news alert as we speak in the u.s. house of representatives they are now poised to vote on the mccarthy and joe biden compromise bill is expect