there but a pretty good run. >> dana: wonderful run. terrific director. he makes us looks good which is difficult some days like earlier today when i was not paying attention. we appreciate his loyalty to the company, his friendship and i heard the enthusiasm from his team and how much they will miss him. i hope, you have meant a lot to us and godspeed. >> bill: we can't hear you, rob. >> dana: sorry, harris faulkner is up next. here she is. >> harris: begin with a fox news alert . former president donald trump is up next as he and florida governor ron desantis are on the campaign trail with dueling events. i'm harris faulkner and you are in "the faulkner focus." trump is in iowa. the florida governor spoke last hour. he watched that on fox from new hampshire, the first in the nation primary state. some say he may need to walk a

fine line as he ramps up his campaign. >> here is the conundrum for ron desantis. on the one hand you have to attack trump to beat trump. on the other hand you have to attract trump's voters to win. how do you do that? if anything, i think the diehard trumpers, millions in the republican primaries, they are going to -- they are punishing desantis for his new attacks on trump. politics is about the art of what you can't see not what you can. and i think trump has a tremendous advantage right now. >> harris: very busy weekend of campaigning ahead. seven big-name g.o.p. candidates in the race and they are about to get company next week. former vice president mike pence and chris christie and doug burr gum will announce their bid for the white house. rich edson is in iowa where

former president trump is set to speak shortly. again, we'll bring you that live. rich. >> good morning, harris, you know the security is here, the supporters are here, the media is here. just waiting on president trump's motorcade expected shortly here in iowa. the former president landed in iowa last evening, did a radio show, called florida governor ron desantis disloyal for running against him after trump endorsed him for governor and also told that his attacks on desantis are strategic. >> the persons that's in second place you go after that person as opposed to person in eighth or ninth place. i like those people very much but i have somebody that he has gone down a lot, desantis, and or as i call him other things. i will keep it nice. >> trump is also criticized desantis on reports the governor is using different

pronunciations for his name. desantis said that trump's comments were petty and that juvenile name calling is now how he rolls. criticism the former president, comments, endorsements have cost republicans the presidency and control of the senate. >> we have to end this culture of losing that's infected the republican party in recent years. we should have 55 republican senators right now had we not flubbed so many races over the last 4 or 6 years. there won't be any mulligans on this one. >> more republicans are jumping in the race. former vice president mike pence and chris christie announce next week and so will north dakota governor doug burr gum. christie will make his announcement in new hampshire. mike pence coming back to iowa where he will announce

wednesday. back to you, harris. >> harris: they are all coming there. just stand right where you are and you'll see everybody. >> i think i might. >> harris: great reporting, thank you. power panel. doug collins former republican congressman for georgia. kevin walling former biden campaign surrogate. i'll come to you first, doug. with a busy day today and looking forward as well as the crowd on your side of the aisle starts to get really crowded. >> i think president trump truly believes and his campaign believes the more the merrier. he have says a 25% base. typically higher and closer to 40 or 45%. that's not going away from him. i believes and rightly so the more people get in the race without the lane that he has, that it helps him. that doesn't say it will last forever. desantis has kicked off his campaign and out there attacking. we'll have to see if it is

working because as you played a clip earlier of kellyanne. he has a fine line. he needs to attack the frontrunner but not alienate the voters he would need to beat the frontrunner. all the rest are playing a supporting roll. >> harris: let's focus on the democrat. a top joe biden challenger, a kennedy, robert kennedy junior in new hampshire last hour and his first official campaign event start evidence -- started this way. let's watch. >> the democratic party ought to be making this election a template for democracy to our country and the rest of the world. and say we are going to have real democracy where candidates meet human beings. are questioned by them and have town halls and deal with all the difficulties and really judge the candidates on what they say and be open to new ideas that

are not locked in the ideological razor. >> harris: yeah. he wants a debate. james freeman with the "wall street journal" says biden has a kennedy problems. recent surveys shows surprising kennedy strength and continuing biden weakness. kennedy is highlighting support for civil liberties and opposition to war. national security apparatus. issues that used to resonate among democrat voters and may do so again. we watch between 16 and 20% in recent polling that robert kennedy junior is getting. is that enough to take a nomination? not at this point. when you add in marian williamson you get closer to the 1/3 support level. biden needs to jump in or you are fine with him being silent? >> i don't think the president is silent.

with all respect to kennedy and williamson, i don't think they're serious candidates. the percentage in the polls is a reaction like we saw with donald trump when he ran again in 2020 of voters wanting to shift attention away from the incumbent. that's just where those votes are going in these polls. they aren't serious candidates. the president doesn't have any really serious challengers in the primary. >> harris: mary anne williamson has run before. robert kennedy is someone we're looking at fairly new and a legacy in miss family. why would you say not serious? >> williamson fired her staff having run before. robert kennedy is an unknown. most of these folks have never served in elected office. he is out of the mainstream as you said, harris, with regards to some of the things he is running on, especially when

folks look at his positions on vaccines, within the democratic party i think he is out of the mainstream. the president has overwhelming democratic support. >> harris: black men in particular during covid who were expressing questions and some of that had to do with our history as a country. they wanted to know why things had to be mandated. there were people in these country. >> he has taken on vaccines for children as well. so i totally understand about the black issue certainly. >> harris: i want to stay here for a second. doug, it is interesting that almost a third of the vote between two people right now projected could not be for the incumbent. what does that say to you? >> what it says to me as i'm looking across as you have is joe biden has weakness. his polling numbers say it. he is over 50% of people saying

knee didn't want him to run. there is discernment. i appreciate my friend kevin a bunch. i have agree the two current candidates are not viable at this time. however, there are some candidates on the outside looking to see if there is a stumble or if biden can't go hard. all i have to do is mention joe manchin and others i think would scare the white house a lot. i think they are looking the try to do a mini 2020 again. i think they will run a white house campaign. limit press intake and try to do what they believe worked last time. here is good joe, we'll play him off against bad republicans. i don't think it will work but again it says a lot when you are looking at numbers all the time that says even the democrats are having trouble with joe biden. >> harris: all right. as i just discussed, gentlemen, thank you very much. we'll bring you back. as i just discussed, robert kennedy junior is in new hampshire today. tomorrow during this hour of "the faulkner focus" he will be in studio with me right on the

set of "focus" for a live interview. i don't know if you have noticed this, there are conservatives in social media who are curious about what he has to say about vaccines and the like. you heard our democrat guest on the panel pooh-poohing that but more populous issues that people want to get into. i'll get into a whole host of issues and how and why he plans to take on president biden and the dnc's refusal to hold any debates. you don't want to miss that tomorrow. what about us? the fury among people living in chicago, people of color hit hard by violent crime and homelessness. they are saying what about us? they are shouting it. they want to know why that city is putting aside $50 million to help illegal immigrants as americans are struggling. f.b.i. director chris wray could be a big step closer to contempt of congress.

>> this is just one more example of them not being forthcoming to the public because the public's business ought to be public. and there is no reason for an unclassified document to be held in secret. >> harris: that document as we know alleges a bribery scheme involving the then vice president joe biden. republicans say congress and the american people deserve to see every single word of that document. ben domenech in "focus" next. veteran homeowners, with things costing more you've probably been putting a lot of purchases on your credit cards. those balances can sneak up fast. even worse, the interest rate on credit card debt has gone up to 22% and for late payments as high as 30%. that's over three times the rate on a newday 100 va home loan pay off those high rate cards and other debt

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>> the most important thing is what has the f.b.i. done to

investigate the validity of the claim. i explained to director wray, this is consistent with a pattern that we have found with joe biden when he was vice president leaving a country after presenting a foreign aid check. if we didn't have this document in my hand by tuesday or wednesday of next week, then the house oversight committee will vote to hold him in contempt of congress. >> harris: house oversight chair james comer getting one step closer to holding f.b.i. director christopher wray in contempt. for weeks comer has been asking wray with a subpoena for an f.b.i. form that republicans say includes a bribery allegation against then vice president joe biden. wray told comer he can see the document but has to go to the f.b.i. headquarters to look at it in person. comer said nope. he wants that document delivered to capitol hill with 0

redactions. a white house spoke person said this silly charade is another reminder it's a political stunt. devin nunes his former colleagues don't let the f.b.i. off the hook. >> just as an american out here there is no way in holy hell that wray should be able to get away with what he got away with in 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 and don't even get started where durham uncovered, they are hopelessly corrupt if i can put it lightly. >> bill: ben domenech. editor at large for the spectator. what do you make of this. it is a stand-off for certain. but congress can subpoena. doesn't the f.b.i. have to capitulate? >> they should, harris.

any kind of working relationship institution to institution the f.b.i. should have to respond to this subpoena. but we've seen past situations where frankly the folks who are over there, the department of justice and the f.b.i., have been very reluctant to hand things over even under congressional subpoena. just to give you one prior example, you may remember the eric holder was found in contempt of congress by the whole congress, 255 people including 17 democrats voted to hold him in contempt when he refused to hand over information about the fast and furious gun running program in mexico that obviously created so much consternation. that was really something that was a long time coming that he prevented congress from gaining access to documents they had the right to see. the same thing is happening with christopher wray. he is saying they can't access something that is unclassified,

that he can't hand it out to the full committee. if they will see it they'll only see a redacted version of it. which will be one page covered with lines of black because you know the f.b.i. over redacts all of these things. and frankly it's a sign of how much disrespect they have for our nation's elected representatives that they would be engaged in this type of completely inappropriate behavior. i hope that they do hold him in contempt for this because it is clear he is treating congress with disrespect in a way that is unfortunate but what we've come to expect from the f.b.i. >> harris: that's what i was going to point to. it is like a game of fetch. the f.b.i. says you want it? come to my house, come over and crawl and get it. that's the ultimate of disrespect. >> they don't have the classification excuse in this case, harris. typically what they turn to. they don't have that. this is a document that is unclassified. chairman grassley and chairman comer are obviously completely

justified to be as furious as they are. >> harris: white house national security spokesman john kirby was left speechless showing a majority of americans biden engaged in illegal influence peddling. >> what do you say to the majority of americans who believe the president is himself corrupt? >> wow. the president has spoken to this. the president has spoken to this and there is nothing to these claims. >> harris: the president has spoken to being accused of being corrupt? >> i am sorry, john kirby and a lot of people have a lot of respect for him. he is someone viewed to be taken seriously unlike some of the other people on the president's press team and one of the reasons he is in this role. that's a ridiculous answer. the president has simply denied things on their face without

ever having to answer serious questions or address them in a serious way. one of the reasons why, i think, the poll data does show that a majority of americans feel this way, something which may come as a surprise to people at the white house who seem to pretend that none of this matters. over time when you see the president of being the opposite of transparent or opposite of answering any kind of questions you come to the conclusion maybe there is something there and certainly there is an abundance of evidence that would suggest these are questions that we need the answers to in order to have confidence. >> harris: it doesn't stop you from asking the question. it makes you want to keep asking the question to see what's behind door number two. more than a month now since the president announced his re-election bid in a highly-produced video. remember that? he hasn't held any significant 2024 events since then. yesterday the president laughed when asked here we go again,

asking questions. we asked a question about that. >> mr. president, how is the re-election campaign going? we haven't seen you on the campaign trail yet? >> president biden: you haven't. >> no official campaign rally. >> no information out of the press secretary as well. you look all shocked about that, ben. >> i'm a little worried, harris, because there are two options here. one is he is doing his normal thinking making fun as opposed to answering a question. the other is maybe he has been under the assumption that he is holding campaign events. if he is, it's his own kettle of fish. that's far more disturbing if he thinks he has been out on campaign trail. >> harris: you can't imagine thousands of people before you at a campaign event it either happens or it doesn't.

i hope that's not the option here. >> i hope so, too. >> harris: i don't know if you caught it earlier robert f. kennedy junior wants the chance to debate. the american people are owed that particularly where this president is with questions about acuity and we'll have kennedy on tomorrow and see what happens down the road. we would love to cover that debate if it ever should happen. ben, thank you. >> good to be with you. >> harris: the u.s. supreme court set to issue an opinion on president biden's student loan forgiveness plan any day now. it is expected to cost takes payers $4 hundred billion with a b dollars if it stands to pay off other people's debts. plus speaker of the house mccarthy got it done. the bill to avoid default passed the house last night. >> the largest deficit reduction bill in the history of the country, $2 trillion in savings and claw back billions of dollars in covid money. we'll get people back to work.

>> harris: remember, 71 republicans voted against that. we'll move forward with this part because now it goes to the senate. ♪ >> harris: money man, charles payne, next. ♪

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debt ceiling bill easily pass with quite a bit of bipartisan support. it now goes to the senate. they are not exactly known for acting quickly. senators are up against monday's x date as the treasury department has called it when we could default. leaders, schumer and mcconnell, would like to see a vote as soon as today. all 100 senators must be on board. aishah hosni on capitol hill now. >> good afternoon. by all accounts, nothing is set in stone but by all accounts i'm hearing the bill could be taken up as early as tonight at the senate. over in the house, house speaker kevin mccarthy still celebrating that big win for him. not only was he able to get the president to the negotiating table, he was able to strike that deal and then pass this bill on a bipartisan fashion with a majority of his conference behind him.

there are mixed emotions right now in the conference. 71 republicans voted no. many unhappy that spending cuts didn't go far enough or that there were caps to defense spending. a few, very few are fed up with the speaker himself and they are floating the idea now of filing a motion to vacate the chair. the vast majority, though, are sticking with their speaker. >> do you have confidence in speaker mccarthy? >> i do. i disagree with him on this thing tonight but week agree to disagree on a lot of things. >> i think what the discussion about the motion to vacate will happen in the next week or to. >> it is not as popular as they think. just because it looks good on twitter now, it would be a really dumb move. >> on the senate side it sound like there are several senators on both sides of the aisle that want to get some amendments in this bill even if those amendments don't actually pass. so there are some time agreements being worked out between the senators.

if everything goes as planned, we could see a vote start as early as this evening. >> harris: congresswoman marjorie taylor green never mincing words. house republicans hold a four-vote majority. the smallest in decades. no plausible universe could republicans expect to roll back the legislation democrats passedment mccarthy had to make a judgment call about the policy victories he had pocketed and the political risks he might run if he held out for more. charles payne host of making money on fox business. what does all of that mean to you and where we just got with this process? >> we saw it on one end you had marjorie taylor green with the sort of further right more fiscally let's fight back any chance we get and the "wall street journal" editorial board saying take a more pragmatic

approach. mccarty said i fight for you. with that many republicans voting against this i am not sure who he was talking to. the key word is fight. when do you pick your battle either and when don't you? i have to be honest, going into this i thought the republicans would get a much better deal. 80% of republicans said this is the time to cut spending. 2/3 of independents said it is time to cut spending. half the democrats said this is the opportunity to cut spending. >> harris: do you know why? a lot of people learned this. it blew up over social media last night. house speaker and i were here talking and he said he was only allowed to see 11% of the total budget. biden had walled off the rest of it. the 2.13 trillion, the history-making cut in cuts for the debt ceiling raised, the deal was only on 11% of the spending. so you have to wonder what in the world is in the other?

and i called it a travesty that he didn't get to see the whole thing. >> he should have called it out. i don't understand. get everyone to rally around you. we are all in this together. other parts that are disappointing is now spending until january 1, 2025. so that takes the election out of the picture and brings in a lame duck congress. >> harris: made it tasty for democrats. i get it. >> the messaging part of it. you want people to go to work in this country. this is what we are founded on. >> harris: the work requirements were in it. >> but here is what the cbo says about the work requirements. approximately 78,000 people will gain benefits in an average month. we'll have 78,000 more people getting food stamps who should be working. 78,000 more. the spending increase of $6.8 billion. i don't know -- listen, medicaid

part of it is funky. it has to be straight. all the loopholes put in it. let's exclude this group of people and that group of people. people living at home. people who can't sleep at night and are right handed. when you layer those things in. >> harris: i want to get to this. p penn wharton budget model said this legislation would reduce federal spending not including interest by about $1.3 trillion over the next ten years. >> right. listen, over ten years? that's a drop in the bucket. >> harris: you are not impressed? >> i would have voted against it. i would have definitely voted against it. this was the opportunity right now to take -- >> harris: even up against a june 5th deadline. can i ask you a question? why is it that janet yellen last week said i'll move it from down 1 to june 5th?

>> well, she wanted to keep the pressure on. she had to acquiesce. >> harris: is that a fair question? >> it was part of a negotiating ploy. put pressure on everyone. going -- she knew it was too late june 1st was the real x date we were in a world of trouble. >> harris: okay. >> you have to fight these things. these kind of opportunities only come up. -- >> harris: do you think there was enough time to fight? >> i think so. president biden was the one who didn't want to negotiate and stalled the negotiating process. he came out and said i'm not going to negotiate. it won't happen on his watch thanks to this deal. >> harris: the u.s. supreme court could decide on president biden's student loan forgiveness program any day now. another favorite of charles payne. here we go. some 43 million people are eligible to receive up to $20,000 in debt relief with a

total price tag for the rest of us $4 hundred billion. the gop is pushing to repeal that plan and yesterday their bill cleared a hurdle in the senate. three democrat senators manchin, sinema and tester voted to pass that legislation to block the hand-outs. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said this. >> we're up against an especially ridiculous example of left wing spending fantasy from the biden administration. the party behind a long list of pandering giveaways, student loan socialism just might actually take the cake. >> harris: charles. >> i agree 1,000 percent. i have to be honest, gets back to republicans not knowing how to message. the democratic party have become the party of the rich. the people who are doing the best in this country. graduates in america, particularly folks with amazing

degrees, they live longer like 13 years longer than high school drop-outs and kids don't face violence and they live better. it is mind-boggling that a cab driver would have to pay for someone's ph.d. this is one of the most outrageous giveaways to the elites i've ever seen in my life. now you know it will hurt the economy, right? so what? so what? it is going to help the nation because we are a nation first of all -- we talked about the debt ceiling and paying debts. this is paying your debt. the most fortunate people in this country pay back your debts. i'm saying all these things now. gdp will get hit. you know what? do the right thing. do the right thing. no way in the world we should be transferring this -- this cost to taxpayers. it is -- i always thought it was a privilege to go to college and graduate and for the most part unless you take a really one of these degrees where you have no opportunities at all, you will do much better than the average americans. you are doing better than

everybody else on the planet. >> harris: what does it tell you about where the priorities of this president are? >> with the elites always. everything done in this climate bill is about an elite utopia, at expense of everyone else. >> harris: okay. i told you we hit some hot ones. i appreciate your time and expertise. you always come with the facts. thank you. backlash to this. >> i chose cuny school of law for its articulated mission to be law in the service of human need. one of very few legal institutions created to recognize the law is a manifestation of white supremacy. >> harris: more people are demanding city university of new york lose its nearly $3 billion in federal funding as critics are calling out governor hochul. that woman's response to a hate-filled speech. outrage in one blue city is

boiling over. >> punching me, kicking me. it is one of the most terrifying things that happened to me in my life. >> harris: women in oakland say enough is enough as crime spirals out of control. some in the city want to force out the city's soros-backed liberal district attorney. outkick founder clay travis. let him kick her out. he's in "focus" next. and only pays for what she needs. she picks only the perks she wants and saves on every one! all with an incredible new iphone. get iphone 14 pro on us when you switch. it's your verizon. veteran homeowners, want to lower your monthly payments and get cash? with a home loan from newday, take out an average of $70,000, pay off debts and high rate credit cards, and save hundreds every month.

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>> harris: listen to women on this. women in oakland, california are saying enough is enough when it comes to the city's soft on crime policies. you know they vote. violence in the blue-led city is causing rumblings of a recall for another soros-backed progressive district attorney. pamela price is a vocal critic of law enforcement. the numbers tell the story. compared with 2022, overall violent crime, aggravated assault, robbery and motor vehicle theft all up. the women in that city tearing into city officials, some with very personal stories.

>> i want to tell the audience, who here has been assaulted -- >> wow. >> that's sad. oakland is out of control with crime. i am absolutely fed up. we're all fed up because of you and the policies. >> harris: picking the criminals over the citizens. clay travis outkick founder. you could probably kick some people out, clay. >> i wish. unfortunately what you are talking about is emblematic not only in oakland but all over the country. just across the bay there in san francisco, harris, 7 1/2% of

people have left san francisco in the past two years. that's the highest percentage of any major city in america. and look, that's a "wall street journal" stat came out most recently with the census. if you look at oakland, this is a city under siege and san francisco is the same way. the more left wing the prosecutors, the more left wing the government in any of these cities. unfortunately, the higher tolerance there is for crime and the more victims of those crimes there are, harris, really, this is so unfortunate. the less time the people who actually commit the crimes actually spend in prison. that's why all over the country right now we've got 21st century highs. initially they tried to say it was because of covid. no, it is soft on crime policies. >> harris: those numbers of people leaving i guess we focus so much on other parts particularly southern california with hollywood and people leaving but 7 1/2 percent of

anything is a lot. dem-led san francisco launched a $6 million advertising campaign to lure tourists as it is struggling with rampant crime and homelessness. it includes the city's first-ever tv commercial. let's watch together, clay. ♪ san francisco, right when i arrive i really come alive ♪ ♪ where can we go ♪ >> harris: what is that? >> yeah, look, in addition to 7 1/2 percent of people fleeing the city, also they can't keep whole foods open, nordstrom can't stay open. all these different brands in san francisco that tried to go into the inner core of the city there and make it a vibrant, enticing place to live as they are trying to sell in that $6

million advertising campaign. they've all failed. this is an indictment on the safety, on the amount of crime, theft certainly that is occurring inside these stores. whole foods said frankly we can't keep our customers or our employees safe. how can any business feel comfortable opening if a whole foods, forgoodness sake, isn't safe? nordstrom of all the places out there would certainly be able to handle this and they can't. it is just part and parcel of the disaster that has befallen so many of the jewels of american cities. >> harris: people don't want to work at the places because it is expensive to hire extra security. if corporations don't want to make that investment why go to work and be hurt and you can't fight back. what are you going to fight back with? they face so-called justice. it is an upside down world. the controversy that looks like it just will not go away.

critics are ripping into state and university officials for weak responses or silence over a law school graduate as hate-filled commencement address at the university city university of new york . >> we did all of this in spite of the racism and selective activism, the self-serving interests of cuny central, an institute that constitution to train and collaborate with the fascists and continue to train soldier to carry out the same violence globally. >> harris: did you hear her call the nypd and military fascist? former congressman lee zeldin, among others, demanding the school be stripped of billions of taxpayer money. he tore into governor hochul titled the governor is awol.

she gave is brief statement. always been a steadfast supporter of israel and condemns anti-semitism in all forms. former congressman zeldin. >> here is the problem. you have people in office who think you put out words like that and say fine, we're done. we've reduced standards and expectations so much for some of these elected officials. we need to do something. tax dollars go to fund this university. >> harris: clay, take it away. >> look, it's even worse than what you played because this was an attack in every direction. new york city's own democrat mayor, eric adams, came under awac here as well. i think, look, what lee zeldin is hitting on that kathy hochul is an absent leader. i know everybody was fired up when andrew cuomo as forced out of office. but he was a far more competent

governor than hochul and constantly gives all these platitudes and doesn't live up to what she is saying in a public fashion. frankly, there is a reason lee zeldin almost beat her. i know a lot of new yorkers wish it would have happened. there would be a competent governor in albany right now. >> harris: he did. he made ground that republicans hadn't seen in the state at that level in a long time. backlash after some liberal elites ripped white republicans with some interesting buzz words. >> no climate crisis if no racism. there would be no climate crisis if there was no patriarchy. it's the mind set that sees things white men are the things that matter and everything else is nature at the bottom. we have to arrest and jail those men, they are all men. >> i think that women, white women in particular, want to

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