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>> john: two leading presidential candidates on the road this hour, former president trump in iowa and governor ron desantis hitting the trail in new hampshire. >> anita: and both taking hits at each other. both events this hour watching for more fireworks. >> john: likely presidential candidate reacting to the controversial decision by a top baseball team to honor a group that mocks nuns by dressing in drag. former vice president mike pence tweeting having been raised in a catholic family, the dodgers decision to invite the sisters of perpetual indulgence is deeply offense. with that, welcome back to "america reports" as we roll into a second hour. john roberts in washington, along with anita. >> anita: hey, john. i'm in for sandra smith, talk to

the head of a catholic outreach group who says the dodgers is giving them the cold shoulder and responding with a boycott. fox news alert. >> john: house speaker kevin mccarthy can breathe a sigh of relief of a the debt ceiling bill cleared the house last night. >> anita: pressure is on senate leaders to take up the bill. it could be voted on as early as tonight but looking unlikely as some republicans are dragging their feet. >> john: many republican lawmakers say there is no time to waste. >> speaker mccarthy got the best deal he could get. >> a lot in this bill that's very good, there's some that's not so good. but it is a compromise. >> the wins they got in this, the house republicans, outweigh the disadvantages here. >> i think we did the best job we could get. >> john: bring in florida

republican senator rick scott, serves on the senate budget committee and says he is going to oppose the bill. you made your views known in an op-ed, you said conservatives in congress have a choice, either do business with the devil, knowing this debt ceiling bill will not slay inflation, reduce retirement concerns or medical bills or say now is the time to live in our means and stop inflation in its tracks. mccarthy says this might not be the deal he wanted but it was the best deal he could get. what do you say? >> i think kevin mccarthy worked really hard with the president that didn't want to negotiate at all. so, but that's not where we are. where we are, we have a country, i talk to people across florida, they are scared to death of what's happening with their life savings, their ability to put food on the table through inflation. this bill does not address the biggest issue of the country, inflation. inflation is hurting almost every family in this country. so, we are just going to -- going to raise the debt ceiling, if this bill passes, and not do

anything about inflation, not do anything about making people feel more comfortable their retirement savings are worth anything, so i think we can do better. i know people have worked hard to get this done. so, i'm not going to support this. i want us to finally start talking about what we have to do, do what every family does, do what i did when i was governor of the state of florida, we balanced the budget, we say this is our revenue base, and this is what we are going to spend. we do it across this country, your government has to be able to do the same thing. >> john: i want to go to call four number four here, in terms of lowering inflation, if you can rein in government spending to some degree it should have a positive effect, over ten years, 2023 to 2033, reduce the deficit by $1.5 trillion. that's really money we are talking about. >> why don't we just balance the budget. i mean -- we -- if we all do it

in our personal lives, why don't we do it here. when we spend more money than we take in, and we have record revenues right now, why can't we sit down and balance the budget. when i was governor of florida i went through every line in the budget every year and we balanced the budget and i paid off a third of the state debt. we could do that here if there was any interest in doing it. i've been up here four years, there is no interest in balancing the budget. that's why we have the inflation we have and i grew up in a family that dealt with inflation. we lived in public housing growing up. i watched my mom struggle to put food on the table, gas in the car. it is hurting families all across the country. we have got to deal with this inflation issue. >> john: one of the reasons you can't balance the federal budget, something you did not have to deal with as the governor of the great state of florida, programs like social security, medicare, medicaid. until you start reforming those, there is no way you can get the budget under control. yet nobody in congress appears to have the political courage to want to come out unilaterally and say we got to do this.

i mean, you came close in your plan for america where you said all federal legislation sunsets after five years. but you even walked that back to say but we are not going to touch social security. until you start getting at the mandatory spending, how do you ever balance the budget? >> i did this in florida. we have medicaid. >> john: you don't have social security, medicare. >> pension plan that was down 80% funded, we went in and we fixed these programs, we had a state insurance program, property insurance program completely unfunded, we went through this. >> john: why not do that in washington. >> look, i'm ready to sit down. i believe we can balance this budget but we have to all sit down and say we will balance the budget. whatever we collect this year, that is what we are going to spend and prioritize our spending. we can -- we need to save programs, like social security is a simple trust fund, it has its own trust fund. medicare, ways to reduce the

cost of medicare but never reduce the benefits of medicare. why aren't we sitting down and coming up with programs like that, instead of saying we run up against a deadline and say we have to do something now because we are at a deadline. we have known about this for months. >> john: your colleague from kentucky, rand paul has a new plan, raise the debt ceiling by $500 billion over two years, put caps on total on budget spending, not just discretionary, which includes everything except for social security and a handful of other programs, would cut spending by $303 billion in the first year, and any time there was excessive spending it would trigger cuts through sequester process. is that something you would sign on to? >> i'm looking at what rand paul proposed, but what i don't get is we don't have to have a gimmick. why do we do what every family does, we know what we are going to collect. a little over, you know, probably $4 trillion i think this year, so this is what we

know we are going to collect, go through every program and say how do we save money but keep the benefits, how do we say you know, that was nice to have but we can't have that. we all do that in our personal lives. we don't have to do it over ten years, we can figure this out if we would just sit down and prioritize our spending. that's what we have to do. we don't have a revenue problem. the population of the country has gone up since 2019 by less than 2% and biden's budget is up 55%. if we went back to a spending and 2019, we would have a balanced budget. why don't we do that, why don't we even try. >> john: one last question real quick here. how do you do that when the deadline for x day is looming on monday? >> well, that's -- look, this is a decision that was made by biden to run, he didn't want to have negotiation, he made the decision. he caused this problem. i know what i want to do, i want to make sure we solve the problem of inflation across this country, and it's impacting

families in my state, i'm not going to support a bill that does not do anything to deal with inflation. we are going to -- let's say this passes, the debt will go up four plus trillion dollars and then in 25 have the conversation we'll be at 35 trillion, it gets harder and harder and harder to do this. do it today. >> john: i keep talking about a time when the debt was 5.7 trillion and we were talking about paying it off. oh, yes, long for the old days. senator, thanks for joining us. appreciate it. >> anita: a long time ago there, john. >> john: it wasn't that long ago, 1999. seems forever ago. >> anita: fair enough. one hurdle after another for house speaker kevin mccarthy, he locked in the debt deal and pushed it through the house, but will it cost him the speakership? aishah hasnie is live on capitol hill where some republicans are already calling for change and aishah, how serious of an

attempt is to have a motion to vacate the chair as they call it. >> good afternoon to you. be honest here, the vast majority of house republicans are sticking with the speaker, even those who voted no on this bill last night, but two republican members are now floating this idea to file a motion to vacate the chair, and representative ken buck is one of them. he told fox last night that he wants to start having discussions with the conference as early as next week. >> the people in our -- outside the beltway right now are saying $4 trillion is too much, you have to get a new speaker, what they are saying. >> all i'm going to advocate for is to have a discussion about the motion to vacate. >> ok, so we are going to follow any such discussions that happen next week. meantime, speaker mccarthy is basically responding to this saying look, it's up to them. for now, he is busy celebrating the fact he got the president to the negotiating table, he passed a deal in a bipartisan fashion

with a majority of his conference. >> this is fabulous, one of the best nights i've ever been here. i thought it would be hard, impossible to get to 218. now i found a whole new day here. >> the senate works slow, we could see the vote taking place in the senate as early as this afternoon, tonight we'll be watching it. anita. >> anita: we are watching it. aishah, thank you. >> john: also on the hill, anita, chuck grassley says he has read that infamous whistleblower document that allegedly accuses then vice president joe biden of bribery and congressman james comer had been trying to get the fbi to give it so them to release it publicly. david spunt has more from the justice department. wray has his heels dug in in terms of turning over the document. >> that's exactly right and he does. he says that he will show them this document in question, this

1023 form, but they have to come to fbi headquarters and they have to view it there. the fbi is not prepared to give a document that could, or that would give the information of a source or identity of a source over to congress where it could be talked about, etc. right now a standard form called 1023, used across the bureau when someone comes to an agent to launch an allegation or a tip, this allegedly contains a claim that then vice president biden accepted a bribe for a policy change, grassley is pressing forward for more information. >> i read it, let's put it this way. there's accusations in it but that's -- it's not for me to make a judgment about whether these accusations are accurate or not, it's up to my job to make sure the fbi is doing their job.

>> ok. grassley wants to know what the fbi did to investigate the allegation on paper. the actual subpoena is for the document. no actual request for what the fbi did to investigate. the fbi has previously said it's not physically turning it over, the bureau said in a statement the fbi has demonstrated commitment to working with the committee to accommodate the request, to now allowing the chair to review information in person. the fbi is committed to cooperating with the committee in good faith. now, moving from then vice president joe biden to hunter biden, fox news has confirmed hunter biden's legal team, led by abby lowell has deposed john paul mac isaac, the laptop repair shop owner, and this as the department of justice, i.e., the u.s. can attorney in delaware has yet to make a

decision if he will or will not charge hunter biden with any crimes. we are coming up on five years at the end of this year, john. >> john: all right. lots to update us on, david, thank you. anita. >> anita: we are going to show you brand-new video showing the moment this missing teenager jumped off a cruise ship. the latest on the search for him, plus this. >> i see a lot of children playing on playgrounds. the playgrounds are still closed and they are closed for the foreseeable future. my recommendation as a parent, don't go on the playground equipment, it's not being cleaned. >> john: former mayor of chicago in june of 2020, opening bars and restaurants, but don't think of going to the playground. comments like that have voted her out of office, but have lightfoot and district attorney

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>> john: now video new video into fox news the moment a teenager from louisiana jumped off a cruise ship. chaotic scene and is fueling speculation over what the silver object floating near the water, in the water, rather, near cameron robins might be. steve is live in atlanta with the latest. steve, the coast guard called off its search for cameron last friday. what's the latest that you are hearing now? >> that's right, john. this eventually took place eight

days ago. it's getting a lot more attention because videos like the one you just showed there, led to a lot of speculation that this 18-year-old from louisiana, cameron robins, could have been attacked by sharks. robins, with hundreds of his high school graduates three days after their graduation, they were celebrating in the bahamas, they were on a sunset cruise aboard a replica ship, he apparently jumped off the boat. they are investigating whether it was the result of a dare from another student. what grabbed people's attention is the shadowy object, speculation it could have been a shark. at one point robins swims towards a life preserver, people are screaming to him to get out and then swims away from the life preserver. officials say it's a region known for widespread sharks. >> i can tell you that area an

individual reportedly jumped off, it's an area that is really shark-infested. >> the search was massive, coast guard as well as bahama defense forces, but no sign discovered of the former 18-year-old high school baseball star. >> john: seems to be fine and then swims off toward the bow of the boat and then suddenly gone. thanks for the update. appreciate it. anita. >> anita: ousted san francisco district attorney chess -- chesa boudin, berkeley, role comes one year after san francisco residents overwhelmingly voted him out of office over his lenient policies. and over on the east coast, harvard university hiring former chicago mayor lori lightfoot,

fresh off her failed re-election bid. let's bring in brian kilmeade, co-host of fox and friends and one nation. i know you have a lot to say about this. can't make these stories up. let's talk about chesa boudin first. voters of san francisco throw him out for lenient policies and now a new job at one of the premiere public law schools in the country, u.c. berkeley. new position there. >> if i was in that class and found out he was my professor, why, do i want to learn how to fail, to not implement effective policies, make sure the people know i could learn from somebody who could get elected in a very liberal city as a liberal d.a. and then recalled? much to the embarrassment of the individual and then you have lori lightfoot. so he goes to berkeley for the school of public policy and lightfoot to harvard at the chan school of public policy.

why? destroy a city already on its last legs, to defame defrock the police, let the gangs take over a great city, institute looting as a form of entrepreneurship, i don't understand it. i mean, lee zeldin is out of a job. i'm surprised they don't go for successful politicians. cnn brian stelter, he's at an ivy league school as a professor. success does not matter as long as i guess you are to the left. >> anita: it's interesting, this is a new center at u.c. berkeley supposed to be a research and advocacy hub to boost berkeley law's public mission in the criminal justice arena, supposed to help foster research and collaboration among faculty members and others, but i want to take a look at some of the

crime statistics under chesa boudin's leadership. when he was the d.a. there, we have, from 2019 to 21, there you go, homicide up, 38%. auto theft up 37%. arson, 37%. so, i mean -- how does this look to people wanting to go to that school? you have to have a pretty high lsat score to get in there in the first place. >> absolutely, i'm not putting down the institutions, i understand that, and maybe that's the policy they want. chesa boudin maybe in their minds, yeah, i saw your resume and how it ended, i saw what you tried to do and that's what we want our next generation to learn. hey lori lightfoot, you came off as a hypocrite, short tempered and racist-oriented. that's the perfect person to teach our next generation of great mayors and leaders,

despite the failure in almost every category. maybe they want that attitude and they want to be able to grow with these institutions. to me it's the exact opposite. like hiring a coach coming after, in football coming off a 2-14 season saying you are the perfect one to lead my franchise. why would you do that? it does not happen when you get paid to win. it does if you are paying somebody to teach some methods that are not effective in the public square. and i believe this is the school of public policy. >> anita: yeah, the school of public health at harvard university where former chicago mayor lori lightfoot is going and apparently selected her for experience in shepherding the city of chicago through the covid experience. i don't think they are going to ask to talk about how she got the hair cut when no one else could get one. thought on lori lightfoot going there. >> she goes there, and comes up the pandemic a great thing to do, show some stills of her getting a hair cut and our

answer is classic. the people of chicago want their leaders to look good. what a great lesson that will be. when to get your hair cut, you have an obligation as elected official to get your hair cut even in a pandemic, banning everyone else to do so. also, when it comes to the police, if you see a criminal running away, please don't chase them. she made that commonplace and when in trouble during the re-election campaign, don't be afraid to dance in the street. so, to me i look at these two officials and you would think they would reboot and recalculate, instead they are getting technically a great job because of what they were not able to accomplish. >> anita: some might say they are failing upwards, i'm not saying that, some might say that. brian kilmeade, thanks for your thoughts. good to see you. >> see you saturday at 8:00. >> john: brings me to an interview i saw ed sheeran do with howard stern, ed said the key to his success was failure.

if he hadn't failed as a young musician, he would never have achieved the success he did. maybe that's what they are doing. setting the stage for success through failure. . >> something like that. i'm going to see ed sheeran this friday, too. >> john: i love ed. he's a good guy. as far as we know. fallout over the l.a. dodgers honoring a group that mocks catholics leading critics asking if this was another religion works that fly? the head of a catholic group says they have been snubbed. >> anita: the campaign for 2024 is heating up as gop contenders hit the trail across the country. one candidate has not campaigned at all. what is the president's strategy and when will he hit the trail himself? we are still waiting. >> we have to end this culture of losing that's infected the republican party in recent years. >> i've been watching desantis go out and say i've got eight

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the end of the investigation was announced in a confidential quarterly report. in the report was explanation that iran provided information to support the theory the particles were fluctuations and a byproduct of current and well-known enrichment levels. may have been sufficient for the iaea, israel is contesting the closing of the probes, saying iran is deceiving the international community. they say they have enough material to create seven nuclear bombs in six months and weapons grade uranium in 12 days. the possibility of israel taking military action against the islamic republic. >> preventing iran's nuclear capability is a top interest and we are obligated to do everything we can to prevent this target. we may be required to exercise our duty in order to defend

israel's existence and more specifically the future of the jewish people. >> sources we have spoke with here in jerusalem say addressing the threat from iran is the number one national security priority of the current government in israel. john. >> john: trey yingst with the latest, thank you. anita. >> anita: john, florida governor ron desantis just walked into his rally in salem, new hampshire after a two-day blitz in iowa. we expect he'll start talking soon. we will monitor that. the 2024 gop candidate has hit the ground running since announcing his bid for the white house, and while desantis is on the road, president biden has yet to hold a single campaign event. jacqui heinrich is live from the north lawn and jacqui, what are you hearing about when the president will get out on the campaign trail? >> well, anita, not much. folks around here cite the hatch act if you even breathe a word about the campaign or lack of one so far. and the president himself did

not seem too pressed to say much about it when he caught up with him on his way to colorado. listen. >> mr. president, how is the re-election campaign going? we haven't seen you on the campaign trail yet. >> you haven't? >> official campaign rally -- >> that's all by design. when biden announced the re-election bid, the plan was to let the voters see the president be the president. he has not met with voters as republicans barnstorm. >> to have a president hole up and refuse to address the american people and talk to them i think is not a good strategy. when you see republicans, they are all over, in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, nevada, all of our candidates are crisscrossing the country and they are talking to real americans. >> team biden is focusing on building a team, raising money and putting up ads such as when they trolled florida governor ron desantis twitter space

launch buying google ads for searches like desantis flop and desantis disaster. they are prepping attacks on others, politico writes if biden faces someone other than trump, dynamics would immediately change, being a referendum on the record and age. some other republicans are decades younger and stark contrast alongside an 81-year-old president. while perceptions of biden have held steady in recent months, new fox polling shows he has lost significant ground compared to ahead of the 2020 election. only 33% of voters thinking he's a strong leader and that is down 16 points from october of 2020, anita. >> anita: some tough polls there for the president, to be sure, jacqui heinrich, thank you,

jacqui. john. >> john: the controversy surrounding the los angeles dodgers continues as one of the largest catholic advocacy organizations is calling for a boycott after the decision to reinstate and honor the drag group that goes by the name sisters of perpetual indulgence at the team's pride night. your organization is encouraging a boycott of the l.a. dodgers. putting your money where your mouth is, a million dollars in an ad campaign to encourage it. why are you looking for a boycott here? >> well, we are looking for the dodgers to reconsider their decision to honor this vile anti-catholic hate group. these sisters, they are not sisters at all, they dress in drag, mock jesus on the cross, turned the cross into a sex prop, they have had condemn masses and dress up in mock religious sisters. catholic religious women who devote their lives to the church and the dodgers have awarded the organization a community

honorary award. beyond us why they can't find another organization to honor for their pride night and have chosen instead to shove this in the face of catholics and christians and decent americans across the country that don't want politics in baseball. >> john: the dodgers did seem to be sensitive to the criticisms they were going to honor the group, they withdrew the invitation but the l.a. pride organization said if you are not going to honor the sisters of perpetual indulgence, we are going to pull out on june 16th, caused the dodgers to say this, after much thoughtful feedback from our diverse communities, honest conversations in the los angeles dodgers organization and talks, offer our sincerest apology to the sisters of perpetual indulgence, members of the lgbtq+ communities and friends and families and reinvited them to attend and be honored on pride night. the dodgers made a calculation

it was going to cost them less in bad p.r. to make enemies of you and not the pride community. what do you say to that? >> well, it's a bad calculation because this is only going to get worse for them. the dodgers could easily choose another organization. we still do not understand why does pride have to include anti-christian bigotry. we have announced this boycott, we are going forward with an ad campaign, and just seems to us this is a very easy fix. this is not going to go away, it's not going to go away on pride night. the dodgers will forever be the team that hosted a blatant anti-catholic hate group and honored them and this could easily go away if they would choose another organization to honor. >> clayton kershaw has gone out on a limb saying he does not agree with that, what he said in a statement, i don't agree with making fun of other people's religions. another to do with anything other than that. i don't think no matter what religion you are you should make

fun of somebody else's religion. that's something i don't agree with. what if the group was imams perpetual indulgence, and making fun of islam. do you think that would fly with the dodgers? >> of course it wouldn't, not with jewish people or other organizations. why is it that christians are singled out as the last prejudice that's now accepted. these corporations, unfortunately, have bowed to some of the more extreme elements of the gay rights movement, and they again need to respect all people, respect all their fans, respect all americans that again want politics out of their businesses, want poll six out of baseball, they want to go have a hot dog and a beer, enjoy america's pastime without this shoved down their throats. >> john: you've had conversations with dodgers management, we'll see if it changes between now and the 16th. >> anita: dip into this, ron

desantis is in iowa, just took the stage there -- new hampshire, sorry. >> service members in afghanistan recent time ago. no, we are not happy with that. so, we have a lot of work to do, but part of the reason the country's in the shape it is, is because we have entrenched elites in d.c. to look out for themself. they put their interest above your interest and above our nation's interest. how is it that five of the seven wealthiest counties in this country are suburbs of washington, d.c.? i can tell you, they are not producing anything note worthy other than mountains of debt and a lot of hot air. the reason why you have people that are doing so well is because the politically connected are benefitting, and people out in the rest of the country who are working hard, they are having to pay the bill for that and strikes at the heart of whether the american dream is still viable with this generation. i can tell you as a kid growing

up, you know, it was mentioned -- i was a working class kid. my mom was a nurse, my father worked for nielsen television ratings. back then they actually had to install devices on the cable box to get the ratings so that's what he did, and you know, his father had been a steel worker in pittsburgh, and i was just always taught. you get nothing handed to you, you have to go out and earn your keep, and so i started working minimum wage jobs as a teenager and worked all the way through for many years to try to earn an education. my first full-time job was, i think i was 18, i was an assistant for an electrician and electrical company, and i actually learned something about government on that one because i showed up to work the first day and like 6:00 a.m., for a teenager is a big deal to do that, you show up, i'm all decked out in what i thought was like good electrical garb, and they looked at me and they started looking to see, you

know, they were inspecting my boots and i didn't know -- you got to go home. i'm like why? i just showed up. we don't know if your boots are osha approved or not, i didn't know what osha was, i figured out what it was, and the boots were fine. we didn't know. and so i had to go buy a new pair and it cost me my entire first week salary to buy boots that i didn't really need. so what it taught me was government was imposing something, i don't think it made me any safer, it did make me a little bit poorer as a young kid trying to get by. but what i learned with that, you show up, earn your keep. but if you do just show up and do a good job people will appreciate it. i got to the point any time people needed anything in college and beyond, hey, can you do this job, that job, i did all of that. >> anita: you've been listening to governor ron desantis there on the stage in new hampshire, i said iowa before, apologize. he was in iowa yesterday. he is really introducing himself

there to the voters in new hampshire. they don't know much about him. he's talking about how he had a first full-time job as an electrician and like i said, giving the voters a chance to get to know him, john, he's going to be doing a lot of that. >> john: you know how these things go, iowa, new hampshire, iowa, new hampshire, iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, iowa, new hampshire, nevada, north carolina, could easily get confused. >> john: a new fox news poll is giving insight into what voters think about the covid pandemic. 57% of people saying they feel that the virus has permanently changed american's way of life. president biden has declared the pandemic over, but could it be an issue in the 2024 election. mark meredith live at the white house. does the white house still spend a lot of time talking about covid? >> john, not really, and what a difference a year or two years can make.

you are and i were here at the white house back in 2020 when the virus first broke out, the top story for so long. as you were talking about, the poll finding a lot of people were not talking about it fox survey asking people how much life has changed since 2020, 57% saying permanently changed how we or they live. the numbers are up from a year ago, i think is interesting. one thing that has dropped sharply, how many americans are concerned about covid. right now, only 32% of people say it's something they are worried a lot about. 23 point drop from a year ago, the numbers way down from early 2022. president biden is expected to campaign heavily on how he handled the pandemic as he gears up for the re-election battle but don't know if the message will stick with voters, who may be more concerned about the economy and issues more pressing today. and republicans likely to talk about covid in a different sense, former president trump taking credit for operation warp speed got the vaccine out, and

desantis said he stood up to mandates and lockdowns lifting them sooner than other governors. >> i was appalled in some places around the country. literally have somebody running on a beach in california all by themselves, like nobody around, and you have police chasing them and i'm just thinking to myself, what is going on with this country? >> desantis and some of the other republican rivals may choose to criticize the white house to require u.s. service members to get the vaccine, that was repealed after congress enacted some legislation last year. >> john: lovely day there at 1600 pennsylvania. >> gorgeous day. it's no iowa or new hampshire. >> john: if you can't be those places, might as well be there. >> anita: both sides of the house are touting debt ceiling deal wins. republicans are claiming victory over student loan payments set

to restart over the deal. many are saying it's sure to be a hot issue this election. let's bring in larry kudlow, host of kudlow on fox business. larry, great to see you. so, of course kevin mccarthy and the republicans are claiming victory on this, even though the supreme court has yet to weigh in, but suspending the student loan payments was costing the federal government, i'm sure you know this figure, $5 billion a month. so i'm guessing you would say this is a victory for taxpayers across the board. >> well, yeah, look, thanks for having me, anita. yes, i would, i would say that. maybe the most interesting thing is the vote in senate, i don't know that they voted yet, it was scheduled for 12:15, i'm not sure they voted yet, which would stop all together the cancellations of student debt, three democrats joined with republicans, the preliminary vote on the rule passed easily

so the next vote was to be this afternoon. may well pass, biden says he's going to veto it, but a lot of pressure on him and i think the country does not want the student loan cancellations. only the top level of income people are the ones who benefit. average working folks do not benefit, i think the numbers are like 30% would benefit, 70% would not benefit and does damage the federal fisk in terms of the budget deficit, and mccarthy got in in his deal, which i supported fully, the resumption of repayment, biden said he was going to do but kept postponing it. so one way or another i think these student loan cancellations are going to have a very short shelf life and that's good. a bad idea in the first place. >> anita: it's a touchy subject for anyone who paid their student loans back, right? and governor ron desantis had an

interesting solution for this, he said if borrowers default on their loans someone else should pick up the tab. if someone defaults, the university should pick it up. if they were on the hook for it, they would make sure the curriculum was designed to produce people that can be very productive, have a heck of a lot less gender studies going on. that's from ron desantis. go ahead also and hear from senator tim kaine, he supports the whole idea. listen to him. >> yeah, it is helping a group of people but also helping the economy. people who get student loan relief, they buy cars earlier, they are able to buy a house earlier, have more financial stability, good for the economy and not only just good for the individual borrowers who get relief. >> anita: larry, quick reaction and then change the subject. >> that economic argument is a very thin read, a very thin read, actually. desantis idea is an interesting idea but look, you are going to have to have national legislation, all right. if biden vetoes this bill, fine.

republican president next time around will gladly support this if the congress puts it up to it. one thing i've said, we looked at this in the trump administration, and national economic council was involved in this. education department, the education department is not equipped to do any banking whatsoever. this should be moved out of the education department. we should restore private sector student lending, which obama ended, was a huge mistake as it turns out. you have to look at the credit worthiness of the student or the student's family who might sign on to it. you have to have major, major reforms on this stuff. >> anita: it's a big subject, larry, we have to leave it there. great to see you, thanks for coming. >> thank you, appreciate it. >> john: just saw ron desantis in the granite state, now to the

hawkeye state where former president trump is in grimes, iowa, talking to supporters. listen here. >> we have never seen anything like it in this country, it's a disgrace. i want to thank the volunteers and the activists because -- you have activists in this room, and activists for trump, and -- we met your church leaders, and we met your religious leaders today, met great people and did a lot of stops, a very important group to me. you make it happen, you know that, i love that hat. moms for liberty is right. moms for liberty. that's right. we do great with the moms, we do great with women and we don't get credit for it we do great. we had -- if you saw the last election out of the midterms, they always like -- oh, did trump do well, we did, out of 253, i think brian is around someplace, the great brian jack,

out of 253 elections that we were involved in, we won 233, and they'll say oh, trump didn't do well in the midterms, we did great with the midterms. some people didn't do well, but they are people we didn't endorse. thank you. and endorsements, close to almost 100%, but very close to 100%, we are like 98.6% on endorsements, if you don't have covid, you want to have a 98.6% temperature. 98.6, so easy to remember. get me a 98 -- can you imagine the endorsements, and some people in the room were thanking me and they had -- they went on to great victories. >> john: a lot of that you are going to see between now and november of 2024, well, actually -- yeah, he'll be there and all those places as well, particularly between now and

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>> john: he does appear to be fine. thanks for being with us. i'm anita vogel. >> meantime, right now, it's "the story" and trace again in for martha today. hey, trace. >> trace: hi, john, hi anita. good afternoon. i'm trace gallagher in for martha maccallum. breaking right now on "the story," amid concerns about his age as the 2024 campaign picks up, you can see there, president biden moments ago taking a tumble at the u.s. air force academy in colorado. it all comes as florida governor ron desantis campaigns in new hampshire and former president trump is on the ground with voters in iowa. we'll see him later tonight on fox. in our first town hall hosted by sean hannity, at 9:00 p.m.