we're going to play for sure. so the number ones and some new material we've been playing with, it will be fantastic. >> have a great time. >> thank you, hop. best of luck to you. >> thank you, buddy. >> nice to see you guys. appreciate it. >> nice to have you on. these are for national donut day. >> he will eat all of them. >> harris is next. >> president biden has rivals in his party and support for them is ticking up, especially robert f. kennedy jr. he is on the trail. and gop contenders are heavy on the trail. with all of that action, biden had no main events for 2024. not sure how many votes he can get, he is certainly getting attention for being frail and aging. i am harris faulkner.

you're in "the faulkner focus." after his speech at the air force academy commencement, it took minutes for his near face plant to go viral and make worldwide headlines. an air force officer and two members of his secret service detail had to help him get up. you can see him at some point after this point to something on the ground. nothing is confirmed about that, but he says it was a sand bag. this is far from the first time the president has struggled with his balance. he is now 80 years old. he would be 86 at the end of a second term if he were reelected. president biden laughing off the fall when he got back to the white house. we were showing you other times he had fallen. others see it as a really serious issue. >> i think just the image of that splicing together with the other ones you mentioned only deep ensome of the concerns and misgivings some voters

have. >> it is humiliating for him and for the country because not only is this man the current president, he actually wants to run again in 2024. >> that's not something you want the commander in chief, significant percentage and maybe most democratic primary voters would like to see a different democrat. >> "new york post" cover getting to the heart of the issue. age old problem. jackie hien rick at the white house. >> hey, harris. the president had been standing for hours on the stage as 920 graduates received diplomas. he shook hands with all of them as they crossed the stage only to take the spill in full view of the cameras just as the three and a half hour long ceremony was ending. air force officials helped him up and he walked past reporters and took no questions as he left colorado. but when he arrived on the south lawn, he also bumped his head coming off marine one. he came down the steps,

smoothed over his air and came over to reporters to assure everyone he is okay. >> a sand bag. >> the incident highlights concerns shared by 66% of americans that biden is too old to effectively serve another four years. republican white house hopefulers reacting. >> you can't fall. you just can't fall no matter what. you can't allow it to happen. i better not allow it, after saying this, i better not allow it to happen with me. but things like that do happen. >> people can judge that. i hope he didn't sustain injuries and if he did, i hope he has a speedy recovery from those, but i am running for president because i want the u.s. to have a speedy recovery from injuries joe biden inflicted on the country. >> nikki haley said no one

should feel good watching the president fall. while it is hard to see, we have to be honest, our enemies see the same clips and wonder who is in charge. the white house says he was not injured. but age concerns seem to be shared somewhat by the biden campaign. politico reports they're preparing a slew of broad sides against possible gop contenders because biden's re-election would be a lot harder if trump is not on the ballot. he is only three years younger and biden could face an opponent decades younger. al ice like jim clyburn are brushing it off, saying it is not about the fall, it is about how you get up. he thought the president did a good job there, harris. >> i also saw clyburn say he does just fine. okay. felt like a little slight, maybe not. maybe he meant it lovingly. thank you. a flood of reaction in social media to the president's fall. clay travis calls it elder abuse adding he isn't

well. rachel campos-duffy says letting it get to this point is cruel and unpatriotic. ari fleischer, former white house press secretary in focus now. ari, there's no sugar coating this. that was more than a bad look. >> yeah, and it came right after a speech he couldn't remember for the air force academy what you call people that fly air force planes, they're called pilots and he couldn't remember that word during his remarks. look, the problem is this isn't going to be his last trip and fall. he didn't faint, he tripped. but every time one of these things happens to an 80-year-old, it raises questions about his health. i was watching it last night with my 19-year-old daughter and she cringed when she saw it. this is a problem he's got not only with older voters who understand age and fragility but younger voters that look at joe biden and say he is not fit. >> i refuse to do anything

other than call this a lie by the white house. we are being lied to, asked to defy what we see because he told us to watch him. that's how he said, judge what he does, watch him. we're asked to defy what we see and listen to them completely tell us that everything is okay. >> but harris, he still has mainstream media in his corner. i pulled up coverage when the "new york times" covered donald trump when he slowly walked down a ramp at west point. here was the story in "new york times." trump's halting walk down ramp raises new health questions and the story was full of allegations that donald trump isn't healthy enough at 74 to be the president because he walks slowly down a ramp. here is "new york times" coverage of biden actually falling. biden falls on stage at air force commencement. a white house official says proesident biden was totally fine. what's the "new york times" doing, biden falls, they go for white house

spin. what they do when trump doesn't fall, it raises questions about his health. and in that "new york times" story today about biden falling they again raise the issue of donald trump walking slowly down a ramp after a speech at west point. the media is in the tank. when you watch the video, it is easy to see why people lost trust in the american media. >> on the heels of that, i often say the legacy media, they are quick and ready to rescue him. let's take a look at this. >> yes. >> he was able to get back up and was seen interacting with the crowd shortly after that fall but given voters' concerns about the president's age, this is an image his critics are capitalizing and pouncing on. donald trump quick to weigh in on this. david, the tonight, the president says he simply tripped and is doing well. >> actually, that's not even true. the president said he got sandbagged, it wasn't him but something else. needs to get the story right there.

poll after poll shows even democratic voters, this is what counts, have serious concerns. this recent survey shows 41% of them believe the president is simply too old for a second term. and fox polling shows the majority of democratic primary voters want somebody else as their party nominee. i call it, abb. anybody but biden. >> it is a fascinating development because in a vacuum, the democrats would never nominate joe biden again. but since joe biden said he is running, the democrats don't have a choice. i think it is a fascinating election cycle, harris. i think there are going to be so many questions thrown at us, so many big things we didn't see coming, one of them will be can he make it to the finish line or will he withdraw at a later date. it is one of the election cycles you don't know what the future holds, and biden running remains up in the air question. >> i would argue we're not

in a vacuum. senator manchin of west virginia, we don't know how he would do among democrats, he waffled in certain areas of politics here on this program even. but they're not in a vacuum. that's not where america is now. there are other people that want to run. this is a man whose ego won't allow him, at least that's what it looks like since they won't say it is his age, to debate two people that have nearly a third of the support at this point. whether he thinks they're legitimate or not. this is a man who has created a vacuum if you want to say we're in one, but it is fake. >> look, if joe biden wasn't running, you would have 20 democrats running. that's the point i am making. he is blocking out major candidates. rfk jr. does capture some excitement. it is worth keeping an eye on. it may be a protest vote, may be a real problem in new hampshire for joe biden, but you have to keep your eye on it.

it is a pressure of fruts trags the democrats have because they don't have a legitimate choice. there's no insurance policy inside the democratic party in case joe biden does trip, fall, and get hurt, he faints, is too old, has illness, these are all things that beset people that are 80, 81, 82. >> two things. we don't have time to get into the insurance policy, called the vice president. i know you're not crazy about kamala harris. walk before you run. this is an op-ed in the washington examiner. how biden's tumble disqualifies him from the 2024 bid. it says it is genuinely sad to watch an 80-year-old fall like biden did today. the video alone absent political implication should summon sympathy. all of this becomes doubly true when it is someone like biden that's consistently on the biggest stages in the world and is the single most powerful person in the world. to see the leader of the free world in such a

fragile, vulnerable state is a hard pill to swallow. it is. which is why i want to joke about it. i don't think it is funny. i think the white house has to say something, ari. you've been in that role. >> yeah. well, they have said something, they're going to continue to say he's fine. >> i mean the truth. >> he did trip over a sand bag. wasn't as if he fainted which would raise immediate issues of health. the bigger point is it is a reminder how frail he is, it raises all the legitimate questions people have, including hillary clinton, about how is joe biden doing. i worry about his stamina doing the job day to day without him tripping and falling. >> we have someone standing by who would love to debate the president because he's running, that's robert f. kennedy jr. we have him coming up. ari, pleasure to start the program off with you. thank you. and we'll also have the irony firing on all cylinders as the president pushes for stricter gun laws, his own son hunter bidens plans to cite

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>> fox news confirmed the justice department closed the investigation into former vice president mike pence over classified documents at his indiana home, according to a letter sent by the doj to pence's attorneys. that letter reviewed by fox says the fbi investigated the matter and no criminal charges will be brought. pence says documents were brought into his home without his knowledge and this comes as he reportedly is preparing to launch a 2024 presidential run in the coming days. >> president biden still pretty much a no show on sadly he fell, but that wasn't a campaign event. his top democratic challenger who you see there in the center of the screen is robert f. kennedy, jr., and he kicked off his campaign in new hampshire yesterday with an official event, speaking with members of the state senate there. he took on the dnc for pushing to strip new hampshire of its first in the nation primary status.

take a watch. >> there's so many americans who believe this is rigged, the economic system and the political system, that the elections are fixed, new hampshire has a gold standard for political elections. they're 42% of the people in this state are registered independents. it is the highest of any state. those are people who are critical thinkers. >> kennedy has been critical of the political party for knicksing any primary debates. his other primary rival, marianne williamson agrees with that, written an op ed called debate us, mr. president. it reads candidate suppression is a form of voter suppression, and the party that purports to be the champion of democracy shouldn't be so wary of its own house. the latest fox poll taken before he held a single event put kennedy at 16% in the democracy primary. that's fox news. recent cnn poll shows

kennedy with 20% among democrat and leaning independent voters. robert f. kennedy, jr. on with me. welcome. >> thank you, harris. >> first of all, let's get to the obvious here. the president doesn't even want to debate you. why do you think that is? >> well, i think his poll numbers are very high right now and i don't think that -- i think that he would rather not debate any of his opponents. during the last election, during the pandemic he was able to conduct it from the white house without going to states. i think it is important to do a debate, particularly because he will have to debate his republican opponent, and if that's donald trump, donald trump has shown his acumen at debate and the president is really going to have to be on his toes, and asking to prepare for that debate, when they're going to have the very intense,

robust debates in the republican party, asking president biden to prepare for that debate by staying in the white house and not being out on the campaign trail is like asking a prize fighter to prepare for the big bout sitting on the couch and eating chick-fil-a. he needs to be on his toes and if he is going to beat the republicans. >> you and i both agree the waffle fries will get you ready for anything, maybe not running for president. the president has to get out. where would you start with this president because i have read that you said the american public is being lied to right now. >> i think we are lied to about during the pandemic, we were repeatedly lied to. the goalposts were repeatedly changed, being lied to about the iraq war, i mean the ukraine war, being told one story about the yuk war that we are over there as a

human humanitarian, and it has become clear that that war, that there's another agenda behind that war. that it is about regime change, about exhausting the russians, and that means the ukrainians are caught in a proxy war between two great powers that are manipulating the situation for geopolitical reasons. and sacrificing hundreds of thousands of ukrainian youth. >> are we part of that kabal you're talking about, and what do you think the president is not being honest about? >> one, about the death count in the ukraine. >> you think the president of the united states is lying how many people -- >> i didn't say the president is lying, i don't know what the president knows. >> his administration. >> i think the administration and the pentagon are not being honest with the american people about the sacrifice of ukrainians. and i think the ukrainian government is also not being honest. >> so --

>> and data shows 350,000 ukrainians have been killed on the frontlines. >> wow. >> and we're not being told that. and we're also being lied to about what the purpose of the war is. we have a common depiction that the war is a response simply to the illegal and brutal invasion by vladimir putin, but in fact the white house has been provoking the war for ten years and continued to avoid all talks of peace and all efforts to settle the dispute. >> you know, it is interesting. i watch a lot of what people say and social media in terms of, well, we are in election year, but in terms of where they think the hot topics really are. you have been called someone, the boston herald said you're the youngster

on the democratic side of the ticket. so they're looking -- which i thought was pretty funny, especially ironic after what we saw with the president's fall yesterday, but you've also been called somebody who is counter culture within your own party, the anti-vaccination activist they call you, somebody who is looking at things like the ukraine war and seeing difference in the facts we think we know as a public. do you think that the president of the united states and you, if you were to debate, what would that look like? >> that's something i would like to see. >> i would like to, too. >> i would like either president biden or president trump explain the lock downs to us. a $16 trillion mistake. we shifted $4 trillion in wealth from the middle class in this country to

the super rich. the ar is to being crass ee of billionaires. the lockdown created a billion a day. they came into the lockdown with a billion, increased their wealth by 30%. we had 41% of black owned businesses will never reopen. some of those businesses had two or three generations of sweat equity and currency. we closed 3.3 million businesses without due process, without just compensation. the white house, both white houses collaborated with amazon and other social media sites to shutdown their competitors. amazon got to shut down 3.3 million competitors and we got a two year lesson in how to do shopping on amazon. and those businesses, retail businesses which are the heart and soul of the middle class and our democracy are now shutdown. >> mr. kennedy, it is interesting.

you take on biden, you take on trump, you say across administrations. yet this is the first time i heard you say it won't be biden who actually takes on the republicans. are you serious, in your own party, sar anding patel recently said this on the focus. let's watch. >> look, robert f. kennedy, jr. is a conspiracy theorist, running for president. nothing more to say. he has zero chance of winning the primary. he, you know, is doing this for publicity. >> your response. >> well, i believe i will win. >> why do you believe you will win? >> i feel a tremendous amount of support, internal poll numbers are showing me stronger against both republican candidates than president biden. i think when that kind of polling becomes public, democrats are going to want somebody who can beat

governor desantis and who can beat president trump. and i'm not confident, i don't think anybody is confident that they have that. i think that will persuade a lot of people. i also think the controversies are moving, and the dnc is going to try to discredit me as a conspiracy theorist. what i would say, if i am a conspiracy theotheorist, show me one thing i got wrong. >> you went after fauci, you went after the nation's top doctor, and that's really when talk about you began within the democratic party. they wanted to shut you down. two quick things. you saw the president fall. let's put this back up there. nikki haley, gop presidential candidate, had called for competency testing for people over the age of 75. others say don't even put an age to it, we need to know that about everybody. when you see that fall,

they'll put it up eventually at the air force academy yesterday with the president of the united states, is that a person you think is ready to take on the competitors across the aisle that you just mentioned? >> you know, my reaction to that is a little different. i saw the sand bag somebody put up there that they shouldn't, and anybody can trip and fall, so i think there's other things, questions about the president. >> like what? >> i mean, people can ask about his age, about his mental acacuity, other people as much confidence on evaluating that as i do, but i have compassion for the president and i wish him the best. >> but you think you can beat him in a primary? >> i think i can beat him in a primary. >> do you think age plays a role? >> well, you know, there's a lot of people who at 80

or 90 have as much mental acuity. >> 100% agree. >> i don't think people at 75 years old should automatically get a test. i think that's not right. but i do think that, you know, it is an issue that people should be concerned with. >> before i let you go because people will watch, i know you have been asked this so many times, you talked about fentanyl and drug addiction and your own health. what would you say to the situation we have at the border with all of the fentanyl crossing? >> there's more than a fentanyl crisis at the border, it is a humanitarian crisis. and it is the result of policies that have -- a result of a lot of things, different factors. one of the clear things we need to do is protect our borders to make them impervious. there's no nation that can have open borders. part of being a country, you close your borders and

manage immigration humanely and in a way that benefits our country and we need to do that. >> you differ from biden on that. >> yeah. i mean, i differ from biden on almost anything. >> but you are still a democrat, we know, because you're very much against pipelines. that much i read. you're on the green. quickly just a word about that. >> about what? i don't like geo engineering products, i don't like the carbon capture projects. and i don't like the top down totalitarian controls that go along with a lot of those issues. you know, i believe we should be protecting habitat. we should be focusing on regenerating agriculture. we should be governing markets with free market capitalism. >> i wish the president would debate you. it would be an interesting situation. and it would really set us up for what we will see in

a much more informed way in 2024. glad you're here. hope you'll come back. >> thanks for having me. >> absolutely. i am a fan of your wife, ch cheryl hines. everybody is. "curb your enthusiasm" on that. we'll be back.

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many of the candidates are already getting here ahead of the big event, campaigning throughout iowa. many, though, are working it around the country here, especially ron desantis. he is down in south carolina before returning here to iowa. he is working it in new hampshire and has been in iowa before then, making the case republicans need a two term president, former president donald trump could only get one. trump argues he can turn the country around in the first six months of another term. campaigning in buford, south carolina. desantis says that's just nonsense. >> don't let anyone tell you they can do this in 24 hours or in six months or anything like that. this will be trench war warfare. >> trump wrapped his iowa trip with a town hall on hannity. he focused critical sichl on desantis but broadened it last night to other republicans. >> i hear chris christie is coming in.

he was at 6% in new jersey which i love new jersey, but 6% approval rating in new jersey, what's the purpose. and he is polling at zero. and others are, i call them ada, i don't call him asa, i call him ada hutchinson. >> the former governor of arkansas, former administrator of the dea will be in this building in a couple hours from now. this is an energy cooperative. he will host an energy round table. he and the other republicans are going to be joined by a few more candidates in the next week. you have former new jersey governor chris christie, he is jumping in the race. got in the race in 2016, dropped out, endorsed trump. now one of his chief critics. you have a couple other republicans, former vice president mike pence announcing in iowa next week and north dakota governor announcing in fargo next week. feemd is growing.

>> absolutely. good to see you, rich. thank you. right now trump and desantis are leading in the polls, with the former president holding a 30 point lead. power panel, both former congressmen, will herd and patrick murphy, pennsylvania democrat. great to have you both. will, let's start with growth in the field. two men still at the top. >> that's very clear donald trump is in the lead, but the election is not today, the election is several months from now. one of the things voters are evaluating is who is going to help us win in november against joe biden. we all know that we have lost, we lost the house in 2018, we lost the white house and the senate in 2020. we did not take advantage of a red wave in 2022 the

way everybody had expected it because we had poor candidates. so we need to nominate someone who can win, grow the party, and make sure that we kick joe biden out of office. something that we should be able to do because independents and democrats are sick and tired of the direction the country is going. >> yeah. let's talk about that. i mean, people, a majority of people, 70% in this country in recent polling, patrick, say the country is going in the wrong direction. there's only been one man in charge the last 850 days or so. so they look to him. he says watch me when the questions come up of how he is going to fix things, but inflation is still stubborn right now. >> i agree. inflation definitely is stubborn, harris. it was at 9%, down to 6%. we have to get down to 4%. >> what about 1.4 which is where trump left it? >> i'm all about it. i would also say look at this week, you got the

bipartisan to build on last night in the senate, we added 339,000 new jobs today. again, president biden beat expectations, told us it would be 199,000 jobs, it was 339,000 jobs. we added over 12 million new jobs in america. 750,000 manufacturing jobs. that's positive. but we got to do more. i absolutely agree. >> i am taking issue with a couple things. we can't fact check everything. 12 million new jobs, 11 million of them went away in the pandemic. i mean, so yeah. okay. that's almost a replacement. but it is good, healthy, and it is positive, but the reality is the reality. >> we have to do more. >> here is how voters at the hannity town hall reacted to former president trump possibly toning down his name calling, for example. let's watch. >> the argument that they

made to me is if he would just tone it down a hair, stop a little of the name calling. hang on. i said it is their question. leave me alone. >> will, i'll come to you. you know what, politics is dirty and it is nasty sometimes and i don't know that the american people need to be patted on the head and made nice to but what do you think? >> well, the american people want someone who they can respect and want someone who they want their kids to grow up to and children to marry someone like that, so ultimately the leader of the free world has to be tough, you have to stare down people like vladimir putin, you have to stare down people like the president of china, xi jinping, so we should be tough, but ultimately we need someone who is going to be able to grow the republican party. >> and who do you think that is real quickly? >> well, i think there's a number of candidates. i think someone who

focused on creating a vision for america where every american has the ability to access the american dream, not just a handful. whoever does that will be able to pull it off. >> there's no shortage of that on the right. we are seeing a formidable group of people who want to run for president. let's talk about the left quickly. we had robert f. kennedy, jr. here and patrick, when you look at his polling and you look at what he is doing right now and that's on the stump, someplace joe biden is not, he thinks he can take it by being there, debating issues, whether biden is standing there or not. where is everybody else? biden has iced out a field and it is all about him. what if it's not him? >> well, i would just say i have a lot of respect for the kennedy family and him. i consider myself a kennedy democrat. but let's be real. joe biden will be the democrat nominee. just like when president trump was the president and joe walsh, republican

primary tried to challenge him, he wouldn't debate him. i think it is what it is. where it is going to be. >> i don't know that i would consider those two things quite the same because you've got a situation with joe biden where he literally is not out there at all. that was never the case with donald trump. we had so much access to him as a press and as a wide republic. great to see you. will hertd, first time on the panel. crime exploded when she was chicago's mayor. that's not stopping lori lightfoot landing a brand new job at harvard weeks out of office. critical i cans tearing into the idea of her teaching a leadership course. and he will lean second on the second amendment rights to defend himself in a criminal case. his father pushing for more gun control. irony, hypocrisy, so many

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>> well, this is rich. hunter biden plans to cite the second amendment if charged with lying about his drug use on a gun purchase application.

the first son admitted to smoking crack regularly at the time he bought that gun. here is candidate biden in 2020 on gun control efforts in the senate. >> i'm incredibly proud of having worked so hard when i was in the united states senate of passing the brady bill with background checks. what people don't realize, that kept a weapon out of the hands of three million people. >> didn't keep a weapon out of the hands of hunter biden, just saying. a u.s. supreme court decision last year could provide the basis for hunter's attorneys to challenge any gun charge. the president said he was disappointed in the court's opinion at the time, tyrus, who likes to bust through hypocrisy. >> this is great. now for the first time we're going to see the left supporting the right to bear arms. we need to look at this as a glass half full.

the argument is no one smoking crack should be anywhere near a gun because the side effects, the paranoia, the desperation, those of us who have seen the photos that could stomach some of the videos saw the desperation and influence of being under a drug like that. >> i couldn't get past the hookers. it was bad. >> he filmed the documentary of what it is like when you're on crack. that alone, you shouldn't be able to have the elf the gun. if they're willing to push the second amendment, why not. sure. absolutely. >> this is such a different level of special treatment though. >> a million percent. it is like his dad was the president. >> even the crew laughed at that. >> i am viery proud of that. >> his dad is pushing gun control. this happens. he kind of can't say now the words he doesn't know anything about what's happening with hunter

biden. >> well, he might not remember it, he is having some issues lately. >> ouch. >> but this is the flip, the spin. this is what the press secretary is for. this situation is completely different than law abiding citizens wanting the right to own their guns. this is completely different. >> this is the right for crack addicts. >> you can't judge someone because they're on drugs. and if you do, if you are judging, i'll just say it now, anyone judging hunter biden on his lying about his application to get a gun is racist. >> they'll go there next because that's the buzz word that brings all conversations to the end for the left right now. >> yeah, you're racist. >> former chicago mayor lori lightfoot has a new gig. the democrat lost a re-election bid after crime went up more than 30% when she was running the city. now she's going to teach a course at harvard

university tentatively titled health policy in leadership. violent crime rose double digits under her leadership. it was dangerous under her leadership. health definitely was not served at the table under her leadership. tyrus? >> i think the university of phoenix and harvard switched places because now you can fail, epically fail, and she should be thanking god for qualified immunity for some of the behaviors when she was in there, little thing politicians like to hide behind. now she's going to teach her vast knowledge in an epic fail to young college kids. >> real quickly because we have a little extra time. you and i were talking off camera, we'll bring the audience into our conversation about robert f. kennedy, jr. being here on set, taking on joe biden and how he won't debate. he's frozen out everybody

else. >> well, his handlers have. again, i take no pride in doing this, i'm not somebody who likes to bash the president because i didn't vote for him, that's not my thing, but he is a deteriorating old man. anyone with an uncle, father, grand father, you see the falling, inability to communicate any more, forget what he is saying, the anger outbursts, frustration. >> the cussing of reporters. >> we've all seen that in our homes and whatever. kennedy is the only guy being right because the handlers, the progressives are getting all their stuff across the board that i don't think a joe biden from five years ago would be okay with. it is just that he is so compromised that it is "the wizard of oz," the handlers are running the show. >> so kennedy and i also had one of those conversations like you and i did waiting for the show to start, to come back from commercial, he said something similar. he said it is the people around him. he said as the president

gets weaker, the people around him get more powerful. >> yeah. sign here, sign here. that's why 97 days we were outraged with the debt ceiling because he would not negotiate. you're not having a one on one conversation with him. mccarthy would come out of there going we've got problems, there won't be debates. can't make the teleprompter big enough. again, i'm not, this is as real as it gets. >> we have to go. you'll be on tomorrow, this weekend on saturday. >> debuting fox saturday night at 10:00. >> perfect. 10:00 p.m. eastern. "outnumbered" next.

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